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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Icesay on Feb 14, 2014 21:42:13 GMT 1, Maybe GP have made a real error. Dot Dot Dot new print is with someone else....Pez must be pissed with all this bs. They gone all quiet. If it isnt Banksy they lose if it is they lose. Should have just come clean. A good image sells itself......i'm lookin at Kunstrasen...an iriginal for 25 quid.
Like public enemy said' dont believe the hype!'
The only reason i would have bought this is because i thought it was Banksy and could sell for plenty dollar. I have a 10 pound print/ original on my wall and its one of the best pieces i have on the wall. No one else likes it but i didnt hang it for anyone else including the mrs!
Maybe GP have made a real error. Dot Dot Dot new print is with someone else....Pez must be pissed with all this bs. They gone all quiet. If it isnt Banksy they lose if it is they lose. Should have just come clean. A good image sells itself......i'm lookin at Kunstrasen...an iriginal for 25 quid.
Like public enemy said' dont believe the hype!'
The only reason i would have bought this is because i thought it was Banksy and could sell for plenty dollar. I have a 10 pound print/ original on my wall and its one of the best pieces i have on the wall. No one else likes it but i didnt hang it for anyone else including the mrs!
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by eschiff on Feb 14, 2014 21:48:18 GMT 1, You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy. He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good.
You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy. He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good. so just to be clear on your position...artist no-one has heard of releases first ever print at 150 quid with a deceitful if clever marketing campaign with GP = fucking good. Os Gemeos releasing their first print after decades on the scene with the oldest print shop in Paris at 4k = insult to the scene. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by BKBOI on Feb 14, 2014 21:58:02 GMT 1, Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out.
Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 14, 2014 22:37:30 GMT 1, He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good. "He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market". No, he's pretending to be Banksy. "Forget for a minute about the money". Do that and the whole scam, like your argument, is as empty as the image he produced.
But really, who cares. You don't like it, I do. Did I buy it, did I fuck. Do I like the concept, yep, that's it really.
He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good. "He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market". No, he's pretending to be Banksy. "Forget for a minute about the money". Do that and the whole scam, like your argument, is as empty as the image he produced. It's not MY argument, it's A argument. An argument rightly used when discussing an art project. You only seem interested in discussing the scam, the money, the rip off etc, because you fervently believe the moral stance you have is correct or that the project transcends the general ethics of urban art collectors. I think his project kinda proves that it doesn't. It sold out. Had it failed miserably, you might have a point. For the record, artists generally don't spend months setting up elaborate scams to rip off random strangers, they make art. But really, who cares. You don't like it, I do. Did I buy it, did I fuck. Do I like the concept, yep, that's it really. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mandingo on Feb 14, 2014 23:02:22 GMT 1, Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out.
I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport!
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Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out. I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport! Sent from my C5303 using proboards |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by overend on Feb 14, 2014 23:08:45 GMT 1, Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out. I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport! Sent from my C5303 using proboards
Only since the floods!
Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out. I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport! Sent from my C5303 using proboards Only since the floods! |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gatecrasher on Feb 14, 2014 23:13:38 GMT 1, Just bought a grey "Butt hurt" to go with my grey "Love hurts".
I'm going to stick them in cheap frames, hang them on a wall side by side and smile every time I walk past.
Sorry if some people think their urban art taste is somehow superior to mine but if my choice in art makes me smile or think and I don't have to sell a kidney to buy it, then that's good enough for me.
Just bought a grey "Butt hurt" to go with my grey "Love hurts".
I'm going to stick them in cheap frames, hang them on a wall side by side and smile every time I walk past.
Sorry if some people think their urban art taste is somehow superior to mine but if my choice in art makes me smile or think and I don't have to sell a kidney to buy it, then that's good enough for me.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by minibear on Feb 14, 2014 23:18:06 GMT 1, Mods, can whoever comments on this thread taking it to 20 pages be banned/expelled/incarcerated/blocked/castrated/decombobulated or other?
Mods, can whoever comments on this thread taking it to 20 pages be banned/expelled/incarcerated/blocked/castrated/decombobulated or other?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Steph Rat Catcher on Feb 15, 2014 0:05:36 GMT 1, Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out. I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport! Sent from my C5303 using proboards
Mystery is over. Artist is west country prince. He has been copying all the Banksy images and has decided to produce something inspired by the big guy. Pricing is in line with his imitation prints. Seacrest out. I didn't realise the west country is abroad must get a passport! Sent from my C5303 using proboards might as well be the way they talk x bit like staines |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 0:26:40 GMT 1, Just bought a grey "Butt hurt" to go with my grey "Love hurts". I'm going to stick them in cheap frames, hang them on a wall side by side and smile every time I walk past. Sorry if some people think their urban art taste is somehow superior to mine but if my choice in art makes me smile or think and I don't have to sell a kidney to buy it, then that's good enough for me.
I've been trying to get one but no joy - easier to get a Love Hurts!!
Just bought a grey "Butt hurt" to go with my grey "Love hurts". I'm going to stick them in cheap frames, hang them on a wall side by side and smile every time I walk past. Sorry if some people think their urban art taste is somehow superior to mine but if my choice in art makes me smile or think and I don't have to sell a kidney to buy it, then that's good enough for me. I've been trying to get one but no joy - easier to get a Love Hurts!! |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 0:50:12 GMT 1, He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good. so just to be clear on your position...artist no-one has heard of releases first ever print at 150 quid with a deceitful if clever marketing campaign with GP = f**king good. Os Gemeos releasing their first print after decades on the scene with the oldest print shop in Paris at 4k = insult to the scene.
He's an artist referencing Banksy and the Urban Art market. Forget for a minute about the money and the perceived "scam" he's supposedly pulling. That's just the scene "projecting" its own ethics. The reason the thread is so long is more to do with the board trying to justify its own lamentable codes than it is the art. Look at it this way, if he only shifted 4 prints off the back of all that work, would you look at the concept differently ? Take away the focus on money for a minute and look at it as a project. I think it's pretty f**king good. so just to be clear on your position...artist no-one has heard of releases first ever print at 150 quid with a deceitful if clever marketing campaign with GP = f**king good. Os Gemeos releasing their first print after decades on the scene with the oldest print shop in Paris at 4k = insult to the scene. You mentioned money twice. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 1:06:55 GMT 1, It's not MY argument, it's A argument. An argument rightly used when discussing an art project. You only seem interested in discussing the scam, the money, the rip off etc, because you fervently believe the moral stance you have is correct or that the project transcends the general ethics of urban art collectors. I think his project kinda proves that it doesn't. It sold out. Had it failed miserably, you might have a point. For the record, artists generally don't spend months setting up elaborate scams to rip off random strangers, they make art. But really, who cares. You don't like it, I do. Did I buy it, did I f**k. Do I like the concept, yep, that's it really. Do you condone the act of fraud for financial gain? One more question, are you (in any way) affiliated to the 'artist'?
And for the record, yes, I do condone the act of fraud for financial gain. But only when perpetuated by the poor against the rich. As for affiliated, not that i'm aware of.
Peace
It's not MY argument, it's A argument. An argument rightly used when discussing an art project. You only seem interested in discussing the scam, the money, the rip off etc, because you fervently believe the moral stance you have is correct or that the project transcends the general ethics of urban art collectors. I think his project kinda proves that it doesn't. It sold out. Had it failed miserably, you might have a point. For the record, artists generally don't spend months setting up elaborate scams to rip off random strangers, they make art. But really, who cares. You don't like it, I do. Did I buy it, did I f**k. Do I like the concept, yep, that's it really. Do you condone the act of fraud for financial gain? One more question, are you (in any way) affiliated to the 'artist'? Don't be a bore Roger. You're always sounding so terribly offended. You sound like my old brief. And for the record, yes, I do condone the act of fraud for financial gain. But only when perpetuated by the poor against the rich. As for affiliated, not that i'm aware of. Peace |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 1:11:15 GMT 1, Most of you know who it is, you just usually all slag it off and never buy it under his own name..hence, "take away the brand..and what do you have left"..sales ! haha, clever stuff. You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy.
Most of you know who it is, you just usually all slag it off and never buy it under his own name..hence, "take away the brand..and what do you have left"..sales ! haha, clever stuff. You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy. It was a joke Roger, I was being a smart ass, as usual. Someone kinda sort of pretended to be a bad Banksy for a minute, sort of. To sell prints that would have probably sold anyway to people who didn't think it was Banksy really. I'm outraged. ok ? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 1:17:51 GMT 1, You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy. It was a joke Roger, I was being a smart ass, as usual. Someone kinda sort of pretended to be a bad Banksy for a minute, sort of. To sell prints that would have probably sold anyway to people who didn't think it was Banksy really. I'm outraged. ok ?
Don't worry I think most people got the joke.....most but not Roger clearly!!
I've only just read this thread for the first time. It's all got a bit out of hand and silly now.
Roger and all the other haters - calm down, there's worse things in life than a print release you don't like ok.
You're completely missing the point. He didn't "take away the brand", he did quite the opposite by deliberately manufacturing the con that the brand he was selling was Banksy. It was a joke Roger, I was being a smart ass, as usual. Someone kinda sort of pretended to be a bad Banksy for a minute, sort of. To sell prints that would have probably sold anyway to people who didn't think it was Banksy really. I'm outraged. ok ? Don't worry I think most people got the joke.....most but not Roger clearly!! I've only just read this thread for the first time. It's all got a bit out of hand and silly now. Roger and all the other haters - calm down, there's worse things in life than a print release you don't like ok. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 8:32:59 GMT 1, Don't be a bore Roger. You're always sounding so terribly offended. You sound like my old brief. And for the record, yes, I do condone the act of fraud for financial gain. But only when perpetuated by the poor against the rich. As for affiliated, not that i'm aware of. Peace So the artist is poor and the buyers of his £90 prints are rich? Er.... yeah.... right on brother, smash the system!
cheers
Don't be a bore Roger. You're always sounding so terribly offended. You sound like my old brief. And for the record, yes, I do condone the act of fraud for financial gain. But only when perpetuated by the poor against the rich. As for affiliated, not that i'm aware of. Peace So the artist is poor and the buyers of his £90 prints are rich? Er.... yeah.... right on brother, smash the system! You misunderstood, you asked if I "condone fraud for financial gain", my response is yes, sometimes I do, especially if perpetrated by the poor against the rich and powerful. cheers |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 9:22:41 GMT 1, If non of you peeps who bought this print like it stick it on the bay ! One going for £150 simples 
If non of you peeps who bought this print like it stick it on the bay ! One going for £150 simples |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gatecrasher on Feb 15, 2014 9:58:58 GMT 1, One going for £575
Won't link it 'as it's just a crazy price.
One going for £575
Won't link it 'as it's just a crazy price.
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eschiff
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by eschiff on Feb 15, 2014 10:09:07 GMT 1, so just to be clear on your position...artist no-one has heard of releases first ever print at 150 quid with a deceitful if clever marketing campaign with GP = f**king good. Os Gemeos releasing their first print after decades on the scene with the oldest print shop in Paris at 4k = insult to the scene. You mentioned money twice.
Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on
so just to be clear on your position...artist no-one has heard of releases first ever print at 150 quid with a deceitful if clever marketing campaign with GP = f**king good. Os Gemeos releasing their first print after decades on the scene with the oldest print shop in Paris at 4k = insult to the scene. You mentioned money twice. Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 15, 2014 11:16:49 GMT 1, If non of you peeps who bought this print like it stick it on the bay ! One going for £150 simples
Over 250 now!!!  - you'd only bid that in the hope its by a real artist, crazy money!!!
Artfan2011
If non of you peeps who bought this print like it stick it on the bay ! One going for £150 simples Over 250 now!!! - you'd only bid that in the hope its by a real artist, crazy money!!! Artfan2011 |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by minibear on Feb 15, 2014 11:20:28 GMT 1, That's it, very nearly 20 pages of utter bollox. Agree to disagree EVERYONE! And let this board get back to discussing things that are relevant, not eeeeerelevant. Squabbling should be on a separate thread. If there's nothing more of VALUE to add here please consider this thread ended. Whoever brings this to 20 pages i hex your collection, and all bits of paper or canvas you own will transform into Outis.
Rant over.
That's it, very nearly 20 pages of utter bollox. Agree to disagree EVERYONE! And let this board get back to discussing things that are relevant, not eeeeerelevant. Squabbling should be on a separate thread. If there's nothing more of VALUE to add here please consider this thread ended. Whoever brings this to 20 pages i hex your collection, and all bits of paper or canvas you own will transform into Outis.
Rant over.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 11:27:51 GMT 1, You mentioned money twice. Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on
peace
*ooops, sorry, last word on the issue.
You mentioned money twice. Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on I know, I know, horrible isn't it. It's a horrible dilemma being left of center and arguing the case for a project that profits from mechanisms you're pretty much against. Must be much easier for right wing people and Tories like yourself where there's no conflict between your personal ethics and the excesses of the market. Economics innit. peace *ooops, sorry, last word on the issue. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Poster Bob on Feb 15, 2014 11:31:03 GMT 1, One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my.
One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 15, 2014 11:39:00 GMT 1, One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my.
WHAT!!!! Thats almost in "real" unsigned Banksy territory 
Artfan2011
One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my. WHAT!!!! Thats almost in "real" unsigned Banksy territory Artfan2011 |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by eschiff on Feb 15, 2014 11:40:10 GMT 1, Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on I know, I know, horrible isn't it. It's a horrible dilemma being left of center and arguing the case for a project that profits from mechanisms you're pretty much against. Must be much easier for right wing people and Tories like yourself where there's no conflict between your personal ethics and the excesses of the market. Economics innit. peace *ooops, sorry, last word on the issue.
Perfect. That's what I thought. What a hypocrite, carry on I know, I know, horrible isn't it. It's a horrible dilemma being left of center and arguing the case for a project that profits from mechanisms you're pretty much against. Must be much easier for right wing people and Tories like yourself where there's no conflict between your personal ethics and the excesses of the market. Economics innit. peace *ooops, sorry, last word on the issue. huh? I think i know that you're trying to say but are probably too busy making money on your festival to have written a coherent thought. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Warm Gun on Feb 15, 2014 11:41:44 GMT 1, This is clearly print of the year so far, I'd trade an unsigned Banksy for this unofficial signed by another artist who is clearly 0.01% Banksy.
No Brainer.
This is clearly print of the year so far, I'd trade an unsigned Banksy for this unofficial signed by another artist who is clearly 0.01% Banksy.
No Brainer.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by vinylcoholic on Feb 15, 2014 11:41:46 GMT 1, One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my.
One sold for $1400 last night. Oh my. Where? Is this wishful thinking? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Poster Bob on Feb 15, 2014 11:44:55 GMT 1, Ebay.
Ebay.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 11:46:42 GMT 1, I know, I know, horrible isn't it. It's a horrible dilemma being left of center and arguing the case for a project that profits from mechanisms you're pretty much against. Must be much easier for right wing people and Tories like yourself where there's no conflict between your personal ethics and the excesses of the market. Economics innit. peace *ooops, sorry, last word on the issue. huh? I think i know that you're trying to say but are probably too busy making money on your festival to have written a coherent thought.
I know, I know, horrible isn't it. It's a horrible dilemma being left of center and arguing the case for a project that profits from mechanisms you're pretty much against. Must be much easier for right wing people and Tories like yourself where there's no conflict between your personal ethics and the excesses of the market. Economics innit. peace *ooops, sorry, last word on the issue. huh? I think i know that you're trying to say but are probably too busy making money on your festival to have written a coherent thought. it's a non profit |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by iamzero on Feb 15, 2014 11:48:58 GMT 1, Does the longevity of this thread owe itself to the lack of descent affordable print releases from good or established artists lately. Don't get me wrong it's all subjective but for me this image is week and poorly done, full marks for hype but I reckon the known artists have become lazy or overpriced these days?
Just a thought.
Does the longevity of this thread owe itself to the lack of descent affordable print releases from good or established artists lately. Don't get me wrong it's all subjective but for me this image is week and poorly done, full marks for hype but I reckon the known artists have become lazy or overpriced these days?
Just a thought.
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