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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mikehaspey on Feb 25, 2014 12:23:51 GMT 1, Wake me up when it's all over please....
Wake me up when it's all over please....
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by gatecrasher on Feb 25, 2014 12:25:41 GMT 1, 150 people who think it's by Banksy .. I bought one but I'm 99.9% sure it's not.
So, if we assume that Outis is a serious artist that didn't appreciate the excitement his marketing technique would create. Would forum members forgive and move on, if his next print was an innovative awesome image, or is his "brand" cursed forever ?
150 people who think it's by Banksy .. I bought one but I'm 99.9% sure it's not.
So, if we assume that Outis is a serious artist that didn't appreciate the excitement his marketing technique would create. Would forum members forgive and move on, if his next print was an innovative awesome image, or is his "brand" cursed forever ?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 25, 2014 13:35:28 GMT 1, 150 people who think it's by Banksy .. I bought one but I'm 99.9% sure it's not. So, if we assume that Outis is a serious artist that didn't appreciate the excitement his marketing technique would create. Would forum members forgive and move on, if his next print was an innovative awesome image, or is his "brand" cursed forever ?
An artist needs to work hard to build a reputation not just appear on the scene by way of some circus in the form of the aforementioned 40 pages of non-sense! Once Outis has identity revealed the "mystery" and suspicion that he is a "real artist" will be over, and nobody will care less, the thread will disappear down the list, and so will his crap print, and the sooner that happens the better !!!
150 people who think it's by Banksy .. I bought one but I'm 99.9% sure it's not. So, if we assume that Outis is a serious artist that didn't appreciate the excitement his marketing technique would create. Would forum members forgive and move on, if his next print was an innovative awesome image, or is his "brand" cursed forever ? An artist needs to work hard to build a reputation not just appear on the scene by way of some circus in the form of the aforementioned 40 pages of non-sense! Once Outis has identity revealed the "mystery" and suspicion that he is a "real artist" will be over, and nobody will care less, the thread will disappear down the list, and so will his crap print, and the sooner that happens the better !!! |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Ponyboy Curtis on Feb 25, 2014 13:48:26 GMT 1, 41 pages of shouting at traffic lights.
Welcome to the world of Art.
41 pages of shouting at traffic lights.
Welcome to the world of Art.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by andyroo0312 on Feb 25, 2014 13:58:46 GMT 1, I have it on good authority that Outis is actually Shaun Greenhalgh, he has been knocking these out with the help of GP as a way to get some beer money for him self and his parents since being released from Strangeways.. 
I have it on good authority that Outis is actually Shaun Greenhalgh, he has been knocking these out with the help of GP as a way to get some beer money for him self and his parents since being released from Strangeways.. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Hairbland on Feb 25, 2014 14:19:21 GMT 1, The question was different and starts from the claim (deceptive itself, but interesting) in Outis website: if you took away the brand name what would you have left? In other words: if you took away the name Banksy every artwork by him is great art in your opinion? that's such a silly argument. That's essentially an extension of the argument 'that's so easy, i could do it' that people spout when the go to modern art museums. The aesthetic of art is subjective, you may like or not like something that i feel differently about, however the value of art doesn't come from the aesthetics (though that doesn't hurt) it comes from the artist. Who are they? What period of time was this created (historical and social)? How will they be seen in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years?
Speaking specifically to the question of "is every artwork by Banksy great art?", I think the NYC residency proved no. Not everything by Picasso is great...those napkin things he tossed off to pay his cafe tab are prized because they are by Picasso.
On a different note from looks of Faile FB lots of stuff coming...
...but at this point I think this thread is less about the Outis print and more about why individual members are on this site...
The question was different and starts from the claim (deceptive itself, but interesting) in Outis website: if you took away the brand name what would you have left? In other words: if you took away the name Banksy every artwork by him is great art in your opinion? that's such a silly argument. That's essentially an extension of the argument 'that's so easy, i could do it' that people spout when the go to modern art museums. The aesthetic of art is subjective, you may like or not like something that i feel differently about, however the value of art doesn't come from the aesthetics (though that doesn't hurt) it comes from the artist. Who are they? What period of time was this created (historical and social)? How will they be seen in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years? Good points...I had to listen to an unsuccessful white artist friend at the Gagosian Basquiat show say "well if a white guy did this would anyone pay attention?", and also for those who just throw a cursive glance at RAE and dismissively see Basquiat. Or another friend who upon seeing the JR / Parla collaboration show thought the Parla scribbles were weird...yet every time I look at the book I see the movement in his drawing...anyone can scribble, few can tie it into a cohesive piece that moves. Speaking specifically to the question of "is every artwork by Banksy great art?", I think the NYC residency proved no. Not everything by Picasso is great...those napkin things he tossed off to pay his cafe tab are prized because they are by Picasso. On a different note from looks of Faile FB lots of stuff coming... ...but at this point I think this thread is less about the Outis print and more about why individual members are on this site... |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Damien on Feb 25, 2014 14:32:11 GMT 1, I have it on good authority that Outis is actually Shaun Greenhalgh, he has been knocking these out with the help of GP as a way to get some beer money for him self and his parents since being released from Strangeways..
I have it on good authority that Outis is actually Shaun Greenhalgh, he has been knocking these out with the help of GP as a way to get some beer money for him self and his parents since being released from Strangeways.. ha now that would be funny |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by pcant on Feb 25, 2014 19:17:03 GMT 1, At this point the pearl-clutching outrage is the only entertainment left in this thread.
At this point the pearl-clutching outrage is the only entertainment left in this thread.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by randomname on Feb 25, 2014 19:31:37 GMT 1, 
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by pcant on Feb 25, 2014 19:33:45 GMT 1, I stand corrected.
I stand corrected.
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mikehaspey
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by mikehaspey on Feb 26, 2014 13:32:14 GMT 1, Bouncy
Bouncy
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Hubble Bubble on Feb 26, 2014 13:38:36 GMT 1, This thread just got interesting… knew it was worth sticking with 41 pages of shite… 
This thread just got interesting… knew it was worth sticking with 41 pages of shite… |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by balibob on Feb 26, 2014 14:32:33 GMT 1, Not quite sure how I missed this whole thread, all 41 pages of it. Shame really as I like the image. Ho Hum.
Not quite sure how I missed this whole thread, all 41 pages of it. Shame really as I like the image. Ho Hum.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Damien on Feb 26, 2014 14:55:25 GMT 1, so 15 people bought the 2k plus vat canvasses then???
so 15 people bought the 2k plus vat canvasses then???
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Damien on Feb 26, 2014 14:56:47 GMT 1, and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-)
and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-)
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 22:08:32 GMT 1, 360 quid is quite high for an unknown artist for a print.
Is Outis selling any originals?
360 quid is quite high for an unknown artist for a print.
Is Outis selling any originals?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by hippychick on Feb 26, 2014 23:51:33 GMT 1, and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-)
and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-) £700 is the highest for the grey on UK eBay at the most and the last 4 completed sales on eBay.com have been £400 - £480 |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 23:59:27 GMT 1, and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-) £700 is the highest for the grey on UK eBay at the most and the last 4 completed sales on eBay.com have been £400 - £480
and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-) £700 is the highest for the grey on UK eBay at the most and the last 4 completed sales on eBay.com have been £400 - £480 Is Banksy buying them? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by londonboy on Feb 27, 2014 1:22:56 GMT 1, Fool,Money,partying..
Or some serious inside info 
Way to throw the cat amongst the pigeons..
Fool,Money,partying.. Or some serious inside info Way to throw the cat amongst the pigeons.. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by eschiff on Feb 27, 2014 11:15:14 GMT 1, and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-)
and ebays prints are being up some as high as 360quid :-) Yes, all three of the prints available are being bid up by the same two people. And one guy is winning two of the three auctions. The syndicate has tried to get more advanced by hiding bidders IDs and have two (instead of just one) of their mates bid up their auctions. Tricky stuff. They must be smart. Probably the same people who buy 7 Dal East dusk/dawn prints at the launch. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 11:33:25 GMT 1, When Banksy releases canvases on a market stall, that's a comment on the art market, when someone else pretends to be Banksy, pretending not to be (using a fake "Banksy style" website and Facebook page).... That's a con! IMO Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
When Banksy releases canvases on a market stall, that's a comment on the art market, when someone else pretends to be Banksy, pretending not to be (using a fake "Banksy style" website and Facebook page).... That's a con! IMO Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 11:35:23 GMT 1, When Banksy releases canvases on a market stall, that's a comment on the art market, when someone else pretends to be Banksy, pretending not to be (using a fake "Banksy style" website and Facebook page).... That's a con! IMO Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something,
find some friends. this isn't the place for you.
take care.
When Banksy releases canvases on a market stall, that's a comment on the art market, when someone else pretends to be Banksy, pretending not to be (using a fake "Banksy style" website and Facebook page).... That's a con! IMO Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something, find some friends. this isn't the place for you. take care. |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 12:02:05 GMT 1, Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something, find some friends. this isn't the place for you. take care.
Like it or not according to one Ebay listing,
"using clever marketing tactics, Outis has exploded onto the art scene."
Although to me, it's more that people buy slick looking screen prints anyway.
and quite a few mistake screen printed images of staged photos for detailed stencils.
i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something, find some friends. this isn't the place for you. take care. is this forum some sort of Banksy cult? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 27, 2014 12:03:53 GMT 1, i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something, find some friends. this isn't the place for you. take care. is this forum some sort of Banksy cult?
i think you would be doing everyone a favour if you piss off to match.com or something, find some friends. this isn't the place for you. take care. is this forum some sort of Banksy cult? Are you some sort of cunt? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 12:07:18 GMT 1, Not at all but you seem very touchy.
You obviously don't like freedom of expression.
Someone comes along who has an opinion, who isn't part of the Banksy sheeple and you take offence.
Why is that?
Not at all but you seem very touchy.
You obviously don't like freedom of expression.
Someone comes along who has an opinion, who isn't part of the Banksy sheeple and you take offence.
Why is that?
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 27, 2014 12:12:34 GMT 1, Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist)
No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts.
Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist)
No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 12:15:56 GMT 1, Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist) No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts.
Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist) No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts. and wheres your art? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by JAlternatión on Feb 27, 2014 12:26:05 GMT 1, Can't believe this thread is still going. The only conclusion I have is that Outis and all associated with him are geniuses for getting so much attention.... and to think I thought Bambi was going to be the pinnacle of marketing shite in art.
Can't believe this thread is still going. The only conclusion I have is that Outis and all associated with him are geniuses for getting so much attention.... and to think I thought Bambi was going to be the pinnacle of marketing shite in art.
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 27, 2014 12:26:36 GMT 1, Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist) No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts. and wheres your art?
I'm not an artist, and never called myself one.
Does this mean your opinions are more valid than mine?
Your art is terrible, your opinions are childlike, you critisise other artists (nothing worse from someone who calls themselves an artist) No one's touchy about critisism... people are just bored by your inane posts. and wheres your art? I'm not an artist, and never called myself one. Does this mean your opinions are more valid than mine? |
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OUTIS • Print Release • Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Feb 27, 2014 12:27:55 GMT 1, Sorry. Didn't realise I keep bumping this stupid thread... no more now, I'm blocking Ploppi/Outis/Elviswarhol
Sorry. Didn't realise I keep bumping this stupid thread... no more now, I'm blocking Ploppi/Outis/Elviswarhol
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