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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 12:33:54 GMT 1, BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
Hello
The complaint you filed was opened after our 45 day
deadline and as such, regrettably, we cannot look into this claim.
It is necessary for us to cap the timeframe for opening a buyer complaint.
We have found that in most cases 45 days is a sufficient timeframe for a
buyer to notify PayPal that they have not received their item, or that
there is a problem with the item that they have received.
Additionally we are required to specify a set timeframe in our legal
agreements. This lets sellers know that they should keep their postal
information and other relevant transaction details for this period. It also
reassures buyers that should something happen with their purchase within a
45 day period, they can open a complaint with PayPal.
PayPal’s Buyer Protection offers an additional layer of security, however
this does not affect your consumer rights and we advise that you contact
the Citizens Advice Bureau or Trading Standards for further information.
If you purchased the goods on an auction site you could also contact the
customer support for that auction site to find out if they have a
protection policy in place. We also recommend that you stay in contact with
your seller in order to reach a resolution.
If you'd like more information please have a look at our User Agreement.
You can find it by clicking on the 'Legal Agreements' link at the bottom of
any PayPal page
Sincerely,
Cian
Protection Services
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
Hello
The complaint you filed was opened after our 45 day
deadline and as such, regrettably, we cannot look into this claim.
It is necessary for us to cap the timeframe for opening a buyer complaint.
We have found that in most cases 45 days is a sufficient timeframe for a
buyer to notify PayPal that they have not received their item, or that
there is a problem with the item that they have received.
Additionally we are required to specify a set timeframe in our legal
agreements. This lets sellers know that they should keep their postal
information and other relevant transaction details for this period. It also
reassures buyers that should something happen with their purchase within a
45 day period, they can open a complaint with PayPal.
PayPal’s Buyer Protection offers an additional layer of security, however
this does not affect your consumer rights and we advise that you contact
the Citizens Advice Bureau or Trading Standards for further information.
If you purchased the goods on an auction site you could also contact the
customer support for that auction site to find out if they have a
protection policy in place. We also recommend that you stay in contact with
your seller in order to reach a resolution.
If you'd like more information please have a look at our User Agreement.
You can find it by clicking on the 'Legal Agreements' link at the bottom of
any PayPal page
Sincerely,
Cian
Protection Services
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something? i would try contacting the credit card company/bank that you used to fund your paypal account... I don't think they have a time limit |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by auzzie on Jul 11, 2014 12:42:19 GMT 1, BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
Hello
The complaint you filed was opened after our 45 day
deadline and as such, regrettably, we cannot look into this claim.
It is necessary for us to cap the timeframe for opening a buyer complaint.
We have found that in most cases 45 days is a sufficient timeframe for a
buyer to notify PayPal that they have not received their item, or that
there is a problem with the item that they have received.
Additionally we are required to specify a set timeframe in our legal
agreements. This lets sellers know that they should keep their postal
information and other relevant transaction details for this period. It also
reassures buyers that should something happen with their purchase within a
45 day period, they can open a complaint with PayPal.
PayPal’s Buyer Protection offers an additional layer of security, however
this does not affect your consumer rights and we advise that you contact
the Citizens Advice Bureau or Trading Standards for further information.
If you purchased the goods on an auction site you could also contact the
customer support for that auction site to find out if they have a
protection policy in place. We also recommend that you stay in contact with
your seller in order to reach a resolution.
If you'd like more information please have a look at our User Agreement.
You can find it by clicking on the 'Legal Agreements' link at the bottom of
any PayPal page
Sincerely,
Cian
Protection Services
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something? i would try contacting the credit card company/bank that you used to fund your paypal account... I don't think they have a time limit
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
Hello
The complaint you filed was opened after our 45 day
deadline and as such, regrettably, we cannot look into this claim.
It is necessary for us to cap the timeframe for opening a buyer complaint.
We have found that in most cases 45 days is a sufficient timeframe for a
buyer to notify PayPal that they have not received their item, or that
there is a problem with the item that they have received.
Additionally we are required to specify a set timeframe in our legal
agreements. This lets sellers know that they should keep their postal
information and other relevant transaction details for this period. It also
reassures buyers that should something happen with their purchase within a
45 day period, they can open a complaint with PayPal.
PayPal’s Buyer Protection offers an additional layer of security, however
this does not affect your consumer rights and we advise that you contact
the Citizens Advice Bureau or Trading Standards for further information.
If you purchased the goods on an auction site you could also contact the
customer support for that auction site to find out if they have a
protection policy in place. We also recommend that you stay in contact with
your seller in order to reach a resolution.
If you'd like more information please have a look at our User Agreement.
You can find it by clicking on the 'Legal Agreements' link at the bottom of
any PayPal page
Sincerely,
Cian
Protection Services
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something? i would try contacting the credit card company/bank that you used to fund your paypal account... I don't think they have a time limit Federation got the right idea. Think has to min £100 spend though? (or whatever currency you use). Many years ago i bought Cirque du Soleil tickets off ebay. Turns out they where bought with a stolen credit card and because 45 days had passed payapl had no interest. There where over 20 of us and we all emailed paypal and fought to get our cash but their terms and conditions state 45 days so they fobbed us off. I ended up emailing my local financial ombudsman and they got me a refund. Could be an option for you? |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Broth on Jul 11, 2014 13:45:54 GMT 1, Try writing to BNE for a refund? Better Business Bureau?
Try writing to BNE for a refund? Better Business Bureau?
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by flipflop on Jul 11, 2014 15:45:37 GMT 1, There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed....
Here is the sleeve detail
No explanation needed.....
THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE.
it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts...
There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed.... Here is the sleeve detail No explanation needed..... THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE. it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts... |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 16:07:51 GMT 1, There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed.... Here is the sleeve detail No explanation needed..... THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE. it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts...
There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed.... Here is the sleeve detail No explanation needed..... THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE. it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts... nice! screen print or airbrush? |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 16:38:22 GMT 1, Anyone who want's to get the facts fom the orses mouth should read what BNE wrote on his site.
bne.org/collabtee/
Some quotes from it here. I'm sure he won't mind as i am stating facts.
"In the end, after a few hectic weeks, enough people supported and we were still able to reach our goal of selling 500 tees. The original charity returned the $35,000 that we donated on World Water Day, but due to all the support, we still managed to raise 35K for clean water projects.
This donation will be made to another leading water NPO after all tees have been delivered.
At this point, since March, we have raised just over $40,000 for clean water projects and hope to reach 50K before the end of summer."
500 x $7 = $3,500 not $35,000
Does not say which NPO the donation will be sent to.
Raised $40,000 in the words of BNE but donated 0 according to the above quote.
" We cannot deliver the same tee that was promised on March 22. We will start to ship orders out on July 1st. You will not see artwork until tees are delivered. The Collaborative T-Shirts has nothing to do with Banksy, and by purchasing one, you acknowledge and agree to that. Tees are all pre-order and made just for you, so all sales are final and there are no returns after delivery."
Basically you are buying a T shirt without seing the artwork that will be printed on the T shirt, if any artwork at all although and the T's on the site have a BNE label inside. Also by purchasing you agree that the T shirt is sold as is without refunds and all sales are final.
So there you have it what looks like a very expensive T shirt and so far not a cent donated to any water charity according to the words on the BNE site.
I have no issues with BNE as a person and all for guerilla graffiti etc and have no problems with BNE making T shirts and donating a percentage to a charity of his choosing.
So far it looks like people have bought T shirts and the charity sent the money back.
How bizarre.
Anyone who want's to get the facts fom the orses mouth should read what BNE wrote on his site.
bne.org/collabtee/
Some quotes from it here. I'm sure he won't mind as i am stating facts.
"In the end, after a few hectic weeks, enough people supported and we were still able to reach our goal of selling 500 tees. The original charity returned the $35,000 that we donated on World Water Day, but due to all the support, we still managed to raise 35K for clean water projects.
This donation will be made to another leading water NPO after all tees have been delivered.
At this point, since March, we have raised just over $40,000 for clean water projects and hope to reach 50K before the end of summer."
500 x $7 = $3,500 not $35,000
Does not say which NPO the donation will be sent to.
Raised $40,000 in the words of BNE but donated 0 according to the above quote.
" We cannot deliver the same tee that was promised on March 22. We will start to ship orders out on July 1st. You will not see artwork until tees are delivered. The Collaborative T-Shirts has nothing to do with Banksy, and by purchasing one, you acknowledge and agree to that. Tees are all pre-order and made just for you, so all sales are final and there are no returns after delivery."
Basically you are buying a T shirt without seing the artwork that will be printed on the T shirt, if any artwork at all although and the T's on the site have a BNE label inside. Also by purchasing you agree that the T shirt is sold as is without refunds and all sales are final.
So there you have it what looks like a very expensive T shirt and so far not a cent donated to any water charity according to the words on the BNE site.
I have no issues with BNE as a person and all for guerilla graffiti etc and have no problems with BNE making T shirts and donating a percentage to a charity of his choosing.
So far it looks like people have bought T shirts and the charity sent the money back.
How bizarre.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by flipflop on Jul 11, 2014 18:07:18 GMT 1, Spray paint and stencils
Spray paint and stencils
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by flipflop on Jul 11, 2014 18:10:36 GMT 1, BNE Changed his website completely after I paid for my item. You can not say "this is a banksy shirt" then after everyone pays say "this isn't a banksy shirt" it's fucked. He can rot in hell using charity to scam people.
BNE Changed his website completely after I paid for my item. You can not say "this is a banksy shirt" then after everyone pays say "this isn't a banksy shirt" it's fucked. He can rot in hell using charity to scam people.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 18:47:38 GMT 1, After months of chasing my Faile tee arrived out of the blue today. Good old BNE - I knew he wouldn't let me down!
After months of chasing my Faile tee arrived out of the blue today. Good old BNE - I knew he wouldn't let me down!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by maddoghoek100 on Jul 11, 2014 19:38:34 GMT 1, It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam?
Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something?
It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something? |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by kultur on Jul 11, 2014 19:46:23 GMT 1, There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed.... Here is the sleeve detail No explanation needed..... THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE. it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts...
There. Fixed the shirt. At least it has art on it now. BNE is a snake and I got hosed.... Here is the sleeve detail No explanation needed..... THANKS FOR THE CHEAP ASS SHIRT BNE. it only took 4000 gallons of water to make these shirts... Love it. You should sell it... without the crap BNE shirt |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by flipflop on Jul 11, 2014 20:01:18 GMT 1, It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy shit! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam.
It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy shit! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by flipflop on Jul 11, 2014 20:02:50 GMT 1, Whoops it grouped my text into the quote:
This is what I'm sAying.
NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT.
The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on.
No email saying anything changed
I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam...
Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t!
Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam.
Whoops it grouped my text into the quote:
This is what I'm sAying.
NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT.
The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on.
No email saying anything changed
I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam...
Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t!
Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by maddoghoek100 on Jul 11, 2014 20:22:36 GMT 1, i would concede that if you do not follow any social media the MANY announcements, warnings, and instructions for getting a refund could have been missed. This was without a doubt a scam, every bit of it was false and duplicitous and there is 80 pages of discussion on it, along with the problems with the faile, invader, and shep shirts. Likely wherever you first heard about the shirt there was some information about the ensuing scandal and resolutions
Perhaps i mistook you for one of the people that foolishly stuck it out hoping for the shirt to in fact be a Banksy and that the whole thing was a childish prank, much like the folks who were ultimately disappointed by the Outis print release of a few months ago. Or who stuck it out thinking the there was a chance BNE was going to come through with something cool and not this lazy dreck that zazzle would be ashamed of. i mean come on it is not even a ringer tee.
But is is unfortunate, if you bought, waited for it to arrive and were not at all worried when it did not arrive after the 45 day paypal window you are out of luck. IM thinking that paypal has already done what they are willing to do on this matter, as they did literally hundreds of refunds and likely BNE has no more funds available in his paypal accounts to make restitution (at least if he is smart he doesn't, and i dont give him much credit for smarts)
i would concede that if you do not follow any social media the MANY announcements, warnings, and instructions for getting a refund could have been missed. This was without a doubt a scam, every bit of it was false and duplicitous and there is 80 pages of discussion on it, along with the problems with the faile, invader, and shep shirts. Likely wherever you first heard about the shirt there was some information about the ensuing scandal and resolutions
Perhaps i mistook you for one of the people that foolishly stuck it out hoping for the shirt to in fact be a Banksy and that the whole thing was a childish prank, much like the folks who were ultimately disappointed by the Outis print release of a few months ago. Or who stuck it out thinking the there was a chance BNE was going to come through with something cool and not this lazy dreck that zazzle would be ashamed of. i mean come on it is not even a ringer tee.
But is is unfortunate, if you bought, waited for it to arrive and were not at all worried when it did not arrive after the 45 day paypal window you are out of luck. IM thinking that paypal has already done what they are willing to do on this matter, as they did literally hundreds of refunds and likely BNE has no more funds available in his paypal accounts to make restitution (at least if he is smart he doesn't, and i dont give him much credit for smarts)
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 20:47:12 GMT 1, It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something?
also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it
It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. BOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
paypal refused my refund:
anyone tried to get a refund? this is such a scam... if enough people ask surely paypal have to do something? just ask Faile.... BNE claimed only 100 of each shirts were being sold and portions of those sales would be going to charity. In actuality he sold WAY more shirts than the 100 he claimed (how many, we'll never know) and didn't donate any of those extra sales to charity - 100% profit for him from people who thought they were helping a good cause and donating. also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dr Plip on Jul 11, 2014 21:02:20 GMT 1, It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. just ask Faile.... BNE claimed only 100 of each shirts were being sold and portions of those sales would be going to charity. In actuality he sold WAY more shirts than the 100 he claimed (how many, we'll never know) and didn't donate any of those extra sales to charity - 100% profit for him from people who thought they were helping a good cause and donating. also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it
It is a bit sad that the shirt is so lazy (and was actually a stolen suggestion form this forum, so not even original), but what part of it is a scam? Everyone who requested a refund after the announcement that Banksy was not going to participate got an automatic refund from paypal. It took less than 30 minutes to get my money back. Im not sure what there is to be upset about at this point. Banksy said on his site that he was not involved, BNE confirmed that Banksy would not be involved, refunds were offered to everyone who bought based on the Banksy name. I had thought that everyone who stuck it out was in it just to help out water charities. just ask Faile.... BNE claimed only 100 of each shirts were being sold and portions of those sales would be going to charity. In actuality he sold WAY more shirts than the 100 he claimed (how many, we'll never know) and didn't donate any of those extra sales to charity - 100% profit for him from people who thought they were helping a good cause and donating. also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it I wonder what will happen to those unused Faile certificates. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by maddoghoek100 on Jul 11, 2014 21:11:19 GMT 1, it seems like bringing the faile / invader / shep situation into the mix just muddies the water. BNE has not been open or honest about the situation with the faile/invader/or shep shirts. Without a doubt BNE profited from deceptive practices. no-one should ever buy anything form him, to be sure.
that said, he has come cleanish on the Banksy shirts, there was a good amount of time to get a refund, if you chose to stick it out you at least partially knew the risks. If you did not get any of the followup and are just checking back on the situation now it is a bummer, your def got hosed and you have in all likelyhood lost your opportunity to get restitution. This "collaboration tee" is not at all what BNE said it would be, not revealing the shirt in advance was ridiculous, do i think he was trying to run out the clock and profit from others hoping that the shirt would be flippable, yes. Then again that is still giving him a lot of credit for thinking things through, which he likely does not. So was absolutely a scam up front, but likely became more of a "Caveat emptor" situation after the first few days.
Regarding the Faile and Invader Tees, they were expensive and not quite as described, but all in all i do like my shirts, and have worn them. the folks who are in on the joke always dig them. In fact right after they shipped a number of us ended up at the same event all wearing the invader shirt. and i for sure want one of those faile COAs if anyone ever finds out where they landed
just ask Faile.... BNE claimed only 100 of each shirts were being sold and portions of those sales would be going to charity. In actuality he sold WAY more shirts than the 100 he claimed (how many, we'll never know) and didn't donate any of those extra sales to charity - 100% profit for him from people who thought they were helping a good cause and donating. also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it
it seems like bringing the faile / invader / shep situation into the mix just muddies the water. BNE has not been open or honest about the situation with the faile/invader/or shep shirts. Without a doubt BNE profited from deceptive practices. no-one should ever buy anything form him, to be sure. that said, he has come cleanish on the Banksy shirts, there was a good amount of time to get a refund, if you chose to stick it out you at least partially knew the risks. If you did not get any of the followup and are just checking back on the situation now it is a bummer, your def got hosed and you have in all likelyhood lost your opportunity to get restitution. This "collaboration tee" is not at all what BNE said it would be, not revealing the shirt in advance was ridiculous, do i think he was trying to run out the clock and profit from others hoping that the shirt would be flippable, yes. Then again that is still giving him a lot of credit for thinking things through, which he likely does not. So was absolutely a scam up front, but likely became more of a "Caveat emptor" situation after the first few days. Regarding the Faile and Invader Tees, they were expensive and not quite as described, but all in all i do like my shirts, and have worn them. the folks who are in on the joke always dig them. In fact right after they shipped a number of us ended up at the same event all wearing the invader shirt. and i for sure want one of those faile COAs if anyone ever finds out where they landed just ask Faile.... BNE claimed only 100 of each shirts were being sold and portions of those sales would be going to charity. In actuality he sold WAY more shirts than the 100 he claimed (how many, we'll never know) and didn't donate any of those extra sales to charity - 100% profit for him from people who thought they were helping a good cause and donating. also, the $35,000 still has not gone to charity... it's sitting in his bank account since charity:water refused it |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by trapnel1 on Jul 11, 2014 21:32:56 GMT 1, BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned."
It's entertaining!
BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned."
It's entertaining!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dr Plip on Jul 11, 2014 21:41:55 GMT 1, Jesus. It's starting to sound like the Dharma Initiative from Lost.
You'll be working on a mysterious island next.
Jesus. It's starting to sound like the Dharma Initiative from Lost.
You'll be working on a mysterious island next.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dr Plip on Jul 11, 2014 21:43:10 GMT 1, "will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project"
Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work".
"will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project"
Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work".
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by trapnel1 on Jul 11, 2014 21:46:51 GMT 1, "will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project" Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work".
I've a sneaky feeling it may involve wearing the tee in public...........
"will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project" Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work". I've a sneaky feeling it may involve wearing the tee in public........... |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dr Plip on Jul 11, 2014 21:51:28 GMT 1, "will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project" Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work". I've a sneaky feeling it may involve wearing the tee in public...........
Perhaps some sort of global anarchic wet t-shirt contest?
"will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project" Hmmmm.........meaning "You'll be doing most of the work". I've a sneaky feeling it may involve wearing the tee in public........... Really? That simple, huh? Perhaps some sort of global anarchic wet t-shirt contest? |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 22:06:44 GMT 1, BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining!
BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining! It could be very entertaining, you never know. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dr Plip on Jul 11, 2014 22:08:58 GMT 1, BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining!
BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining! Second step: Paypal refund achievement. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 11, 2014 22:16:25 GMT 1, BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining! It could be very entertaining, you never know.
BNE instagram today: "Have patience. Your first reward is the satisfaction of helping people in need get access to clean water. The tee is the first step. The Collaborative Tee customers will receive another reward and will all be invited to participate in an interactive art project that will take place on the streets of major cities throughout the world. Stay tuned." It's entertaining! It could be very entertaining, you never know. I'm hoping it'll be in the form of improvised dance. If so, I'm in! |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by coa on Jul 11, 2014 23:27:24 GMT 1, Go ahead and put a claim in, by phone if you need to. Others have said (either here or EB) that they've applied for a refund from PayPal in the last couple of days and it's come through.
PP know the scam, they never required BNE to notify all customers to the 'change' in the product, so I'd say they'll be fairly careful to keep everyone happy.
Whoops it grouped my text into the quote: This is what I'm sAying. NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam.
Go ahead and put a claim in, by phone if you need to. Others have said (either here or EB) that they've applied for a refund from PayPal in the last couple of days and it's come through. PP know the scam, they never required BNE to notify all customers to the 'change' in the product, so I'd say they'll be fairly careful to keep everyone happy. Whoops it grouped my text into the quote: This is what I'm sAying. NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by met on Jul 12, 2014 0:45:01 GMT 1, Go ahead and put a claim in, by phone if you need to. Others have said (either here or EB) that they've applied for a refund from PayPal in the last couple of days and it's come through. PP know the scam, they never required BNE to notify all customers to the 'change' in the product, so I'd say they'll be fairly careful to keep everyone happy. Whoops it grouped my text into the quote: This is what I'm sAying. NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam.
That's a very good point regarding the lack of notification by BNE.
The onus really is on the seller to expressly inform buyers (by individual email in this instance) if an item description is changed after purchase. It isn't the responsibility of buyers to keep on top of whatever general statements the seller may later release through Instagram or whatnot.
flipflop — Persist with PayPal and insist upon a refund. If a customer advisor tries to fob you off, request that your case be escalated and reviewed by someone more senior. Don't accept their 45-day policy argument. It isn't equitable when items are only delivered by a seller after that period. PayPal is aware of this. And there's commercial sense in the company acquiescing to random "goodwill-gesture" policy exceptions, to reduce the risk of the policy actually being challenged in court by a disgruntled customer.
As a general comment, it's always worth keeping in mind that with large, bureaucratic companies, you'll often get different (and sometimes conflicting) responses depending on whom you happen to speak with on a given day.
If you receive no joy from PayPal, explain the situation to your credit or debit card issuer and pursue the matter on that front.
Good luck.
Go ahead and put a claim in, by phone if you need to. Others have said (either here or EB) that they've applied for a refund from PayPal in the last couple of days and it's come through. PP know the scam, they never required BNE to notify all customers to the 'change' in the product, so I'd say they'll be fairly careful to keep everyone happy. Whoops it grouped my text into the quote: This is what I'm sAying. NOT EVERYONE KNEW IT WASNT BANKSY UNTIL THE SHIRTS ARRIVED. NO EMAILS WERE SENT. The scam was anyone who didn't follow social media was left in the dark. I never got an email saying anything changed. I ordered a banksy collab shirt with portions of the charity going to charity water. A company I have donated to before this fiasco. I paid and left it at that. Now 4 months later I get a miss spelled shirt that has nothing to do with banksy, and NO money went to the charity I already support privately and wanted my money to go to. It went in BnEs pockets. I had no idea until I got my shirt and came online to see what was going on. No email saying anything changed I didn't even know about the refunds until I received my shirt and are no longer available. How is that not a scam? Because I don't keep up on social media it's my fault? Why didn't he email me when my order changed completely? Because it was a scam... Not to mention the amount of water it took to make these cheap super low quality tshirts. Holy s**t! Basically: I ordered a limited edition banksy collab tshirt made from an American company with a hologram. What I recieved was an open edition NON COLLAB tshirt made from an imported company with no hologram. That's a scam. That's a very good point regarding the lack of notification by BNE. The onus really is on the seller to expressly inform buyers (by individual email in this instance) if an item description is changed after purchase. It isn't the responsibility of buyers to keep on top of whatever general statements the seller may later release through Instagram or whatnot. flipflop — Persist with PayPal and insist upon a refund. If a customer advisor tries to fob you off, request that your case be escalated and reviewed by someone more senior. Don't accept their 45-day policy argument. It isn't equitable when items are only delivered by a seller after that period. PayPal is aware of this. And there's commercial sense in the company acquiescing to random "goodwill-gesture" policy exceptions, to reduce the risk of the policy actually being challenged in court by a disgruntled customer. As a general comment, it's always worth keeping in mind that with large, bureaucratic companies, you'll often get different (and sometimes conflicting) responses depending on whom you happen to speak with on a given day. If you receive no joy from PayPal, explain the situation to your credit or debit card issuer and pursue the matter on that front. Good luck. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 0:49:50 GMT 1, BNE - I'm sure you read this forum. Care to answer 3 questions?
1). How many shirts did you sell
2). Where is the money going?
3). Why didn't you proofread the "Bansky" shirts before sending them to the printer?
I don't think anyone on here will be buying any of your shirts if you can't answer these simple questions. The Barry McGee shirt looks sweet btw
BNE - I'm sure you read this forum. Care to answer 3 questions?
1). How many shirts did you sell
2). Where is the money going?
3). Why didn't you proofread the "Bansky" shirts before sending them to the printer?
I don't think anyone on here will be buying any of your shirts if you can't answer these simple questions. The Barry McGee shirt looks sweet btw
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