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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:02:46 GMT 1, It's impossible to hijack this thread
It's impossible to hijack this thread
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:05:05 GMT 1, Definitely go out and grab a flat file/ portfolio. I picked up one that holds up to a 40x60 print. I think I bought it for 60-70$? Aside from that, grab two large pieces of acid free foam board and buy some acid free sleeves. Anything you don't frame, flatten out for a day or two, put it in a sleeve, place between the two foam boards, tape them shut and flat, and put it in the flat file. You'll understand how much of a pain in the ass it is to flatten a print out if you ever go to get it floated and have had it in the tube for months. Got it; any chance you can point me to where you can score a flat file like that for that price? Also even if the flattening is a pain in the ass, it isn't irreversible damage right?
I'm a member so get the discounted price if anyone needs anything
Definitely go out and grab a flat file/ portfolio. I picked up one that holds up to a 40x60 print. I think I bought it for 60-70$? Aside from that, grab two large pieces of acid free foam board and buy some acid free sleeves. Anything you don't frame, flatten out for a day or two, put it in a sleeve, place between the two foam boards, tape them shut and flat, and put it in the flat file. You'll understand how much of a pain in the ass it is to flatten a print out if you ever go to get it floated and have had it in the tube for months. Got it; any chance you can point me to where you can score a flat file like that for that price? Also even if the flattening is a pain in the ass, it isn't irreversible damage right? ASW has some nice ones: www.aswexpress.com/wholesale/storage-and-presentation/portfolios-and-presentation-cases/stein-design-picturesque-presentation-cases/cases.htmlI'm a member so get the discounted price if anyone needs anything |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:11:19 GMT 1, Sorry dss111, imo when you get a print best to store flat in a non damp area, contact your framer and ask him to cut 2 bits of acid free board a few inches wider than the print. Theres a few good options mentioned besides this.
Sorry dss111, imo when you get a print best to store flat in a non damp area, contact your framer and ask him to cut 2 bits of acid free board a few inches wider than the print. Theres a few good options mentioned besides this.
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Preserving your art, by alittle on Jul 25, 2014 23:15:06 GMT 1, Personally I'd just hang the RAE. Artists use UV varnish over the acrylic.
Personally I'd just hang the RAE. Artists use UV varnish over the acrylic.
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:16:14 GMT 1, ... leave it fresh hanging by itself ... put it in a tray frame ... or my fave: I like a bit of perspex box different styles depending on the piece ... floated or plain box ... perspex will protect and block out c90%+ of UV light (you can get special UV coatings for higher) Hopefully I am not hijacking the thread with this question…. I recently got a RAE original (my first original), and it is 30 x 30 inches, and 2 inches deep. Would you recommend putting it in a perspex box or just hang it out of direct sunlight? I wouldn't put it in a tray frame as it has got great sides and I'd want to see those. If I went with a perspex box, is that something a framer could do? (I guess I should ask my framer, but am interested in your perspex box experiences). Thanks
... leave it fresh hanging by itself ... put it in a tray frame ... or my fave: I like a bit of perspex box different styles depending on the piece ... floated or plain box ... perspex will protect and block out c90%+ of UV light (you can get special UV coatings for higher) Hopefully I am not hijacking the thread with this question…. I recently got a RAE original (my first original), and it is 30 x 30 inches, and 2 inches deep. Would you recommend putting it in a perspex box or just hang it out of direct sunlight? I wouldn't put it in a tray frame as it has got great sides and I'd want to see those. If I went with a perspex box, is that something a framer could do? (I guess I should ask my framer, but am interested in your perspex box experiences). Thanks personally, I'd hang it without any framing or box... just keep it out of direct sunlight |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:18:07 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it.
Didnt know you could insert a graph!.
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:24:00 GMT 1,
btw - willing to help out ANY forum member with this... they have really great prices for members. shipping oversees probably wouldnt make it worth if for UK friends though
btw - willing to help out ANY forum member with this... they have really great prices for members. shipping oversees probably wouldnt make it worth if for UK friends though |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 23:25:02 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it.
FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Jeez you sound like the curator of the national museum of fine art wiz...dont listen to him, throw it in a peat bog!! |
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Preserving your art, by Stoko on Jul 25, 2014 23:26:23 GMT 1, I just get drunk and staple things to my wall
I just get drunk and staple things to my wall
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Preserving your art, by Dr Plip on Jul 25, 2014 23:37:55 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Jeez you sound like the curator of the national museum of fine art wiz...dont listen to him, throw it in a peat bog!!
FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Jeez you sound like the curator of the national museum of fine art wiz...dont listen to him, throw it in a peat bog!! LOL |
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Preserving your art, by Dr Plip on Jul 26, 2014 0:21:07 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Didnt know you could insert a graph!. | Row 1 column 1 | Row 1 column 2 | Row 1 column 3 | Row 1 column 4 | Row 1 column 5 | Row 1 column 6 | | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 2 column 5 | Row 2 column 6 | | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 3 column 5 | Row 3 column 6 | | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 4 column 5 | Row 4 column 6 | | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 5 column 5 | Row 5 column 6 | | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 6 column 5 | Row 6 column 6 |
FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Didnt know you could insert a graph!. | Row 1 column 1 | Row 1 column 2 | Row 1 column 3 | Row 1 column 4 | Row 1 column 5 | Row 1 column 6 | | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 2 column 5 | Row 2 column 6 | | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 3 column 5 | Row 3 column 6 | | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 4 column 5 | Row 4 column 6 | | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 5 column 5 | Row 5 column 6 | | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 6 column 5 | Row 6 column 6 |
Yeah. You can make them incredibly massive too. It would destroy the forum. People would be scrolling for days. |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 0:36:37 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Didnt know you could insert a graph!. | Row 1 column 1 | Row 1 column 2 | Row 1 column 3 | Row 1 column 4 | Row 1 column 5 | Row 1 column 6 | | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 2 column 5 | Row 2 column 6 | | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 3 column 5 | Row 3 column 6 | | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 4 column 5 | Row 4 column 6 | | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 5 column 5 | Row 5 column 6 | | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 6 column 5 | Row 6 column 6 |
Yeah. You can make them incredibly massive too. It would destroy the forum. People would be scrolling for days.
FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Didnt know you could insert a graph!. | Row 1 column 1 | Row 1 column 2 | Row 1 column 3 | Row 1 column 4 | Row 1 column 5 | Row 1 column 6 | | Row 2 column 1 | Row 2 column 2 | Row 2 column 3 | Row 2 column 4 | Row 2 column 5 | Row 2 column 6 | | Row 3 column 1 | Row 3 column 2 | Row 3 column 3 | Row 3 column 4 | Row 3 column 5 | Row 3 column 6 | | Row 4 column 1 | Row 4 column 2 | Row 4 column 3 | Row 4 column 4 | Row 4 column 5 | Row 4 column 6 | | Row 5 column 1 | Row 5 column 2 | Row 5 column 3 | Row 5 column 4 | Row 5 column 5 | Row 5 column 6 | | Row 6 column 1 | Row 6 column 2 | Row 6 column 3 | Row 6 column 4 | Row 6 column 5 | Row 6 column 6 |
Yeah. You can make them incredibly massive too. It would destroy the forum. People would be scrolling for days. I wish, then i could escape this insanity... get the big graphs up.........FREEDOOOOM!!! |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 8:47:54 GMT 1, FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Jeez you sound like the curator of the national museum of fine art wiz...dont listen to him, throw it in a peat bog!!
FFS its like anorak city!, bang the fkr up on the wall and enjoy it. Jeez you sound like the curator of the national museum of fine art wiz...dont listen to him, throw it in a peat bog!! LOL. |
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Preserving your art, by .dappy on Jul 26, 2014 13:40:26 GMT 1,
... C215: big cupboard door in perspex box ... 'nice and tight'
... C215: big cupboard door in perspex box ... 'nice and tight' |
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Preserving your art, by South Bound on Jul 26, 2014 16:27:30 GMT 1, New question.
I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood?
New question.
I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood?
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Preserving your art, by Nick on Jul 26, 2014 16:37:48 GMT 1, I wouldnt scrub them too hard if i was you if you think they're watercolour. Start with dunking them in some soapy water a few times and padding dry!
I wouldnt scrub them too hard if i was you if you think they're watercolour. Start with dunking them in some soapy water a few times and padding dry!
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Preserving your art, by .dappy on Jul 26, 2014 16:45:21 GMT 1,
... don't dunk! Use a wet cotton bud at first ... then use a test area with a weak solution of water and fairy liquid ... dry as you go with folded kitchen towel to get into the nooks and cranies ...
... don't dunk! Use a wet cotton bud at first ... then use a test area with a weak solution of water and fairy liquid ... dry as you go with folded kitchen towel to get into the nooks and cranies ...
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Preserving your art, by South Bound on Jul 26, 2014 16:55:36 GMT 1, Great! Thank You! I am not gonna touch for a bit so more suggestions are welcome. But I really appreciate everyone's help.
Great! Thank You! I am not gonna touch for a bit so more suggestions are welcome. But I really appreciate everyone's help.
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Preserving your art, by Dr Plip on Jul 26, 2014 16:57:26 GMT 1, A local framer once mounted some guy's original Snow White poster onto board. Like proper spray-mounted it, without running it past the guy. He did it to get it flat, apparently. I know people linen back old movie posters, but I don't think they like to be glued to cardboard like that.
We later found out that he'd been spray mounting people's movie posters for some time (not unlike a couple of the horror stories we've heard on here recently). Anyway, obviously the guy was upset by this and took his poster back, but I have no idea what he said or threatened the framer with. Later that same day, my (ever helpful) ex boss suggested that the guy might be able to remove it from the backing board if he used some soapy water.
The next day, the guy comes into our shop and explained to us how he'd taken my boss's advice and left the whole thing to soak in soapy water overnight. Weighted it down and everything. Come the morning, he was quite mortified to discover his original Snow White poster had become some expensive papier mache.
Well didn't I almost wet myself. I couldn't breathe for like 5 minutes. It was like the perfect storm of stupid.
God I miss that place.
A local framer once mounted some guy's original Snow White poster onto board. Like proper spray-mounted it, without running it past the guy. He did it to get it flat, apparently. I know people linen back old movie posters, but I don't think they like to be glued to cardboard like that.
We later found out that he'd been spray mounting people's movie posters for some time (not unlike a couple of the horror stories we've heard on here recently). Anyway, obviously the guy was upset by this and took his poster back, but I have no idea what he said or threatened the framer with. Later that same day, my (ever helpful) ex boss suggested that the guy might be able to remove it from the backing board if he used some soapy water.
The next day, the guy comes into our shop and explained to us how he'd taken my boss's advice and left the whole thing to soak in soapy water overnight. Weighted it down and everything. Come the morning, he was quite mortified to discover his original Snow White poster had become some expensive papier mache.
Well didn't I almost wet myself. I couldn't breathe for like 5 minutes. It was like the perfect storm of stupid.
God I miss that place.
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Preserving your art, by Dr Plip on Jul 26, 2014 16:59:21 GMT 1, And on that note, I can completely understand why people take the time and effort to frame their items themselves. You know what's going on then.
Not to say there aren't reputable framers out there.
And on that note, I can completely understand why people take the time and effort to frame their items themselves. You know what's going on then.
Not to say there aren't reputable framers out there.
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Preserving your art, by Dr Plip on Jul 26, 2014 16:59:48 GMT 1, There are also peat bogs.
There are also peat bogs.
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:08:14 GMT 1, I just spoke to an expert in Manhattan; the best way to preserve originals on wood is to biennially spray them with bleach from a fire extinguisher.
I just spoke to an expert in Manhattan; the best way to preserve originals on wood is to biennially spray them with bleach from a fire extinguisher.
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:11:48 GMT 1, A local framer once mounted some guy's original Snow White poster onto board. Like proper spray-mounted it, without running it past the guy. He did it to get it flat, apparently. I know people linen back old movie posters, but I don't think they like to be glued to cardboard like that. We later found out that he'd been spray mounting people's movie posters for some time (not unlike a couple of the horror stories we've heard on here recently). Anyway, obviously the guy was upset by this and took his poster back, but I have no idea what he said or threatened the framer with. Later that same day, my (ever helpful) ex boss suggested that the guy might be able to remove it from the backing board if he used some soapy water. The next day, the guy comes into our shop and explained to us how he'd taken my boss's advice and left the whole thing to soak in soapy water overnight. Weighted it down and everything. Come the morning, he was quite mortified to discover his original Snow White poster had become some expensive papier mache. Well didn't I almost wet myself. I couldn't breathe for like 5 minutes. It was like the perfect storm of stupid. God I miss that place.
A local framer once mounted some guy's original Snow White poster onto board. Like proper spray-mounted it, without running it past the guy. He did it to get it flat, apparently. I know people linen back old movie posters, but I don't think they like to be glued to cardboard like that. We later found out that he'd been spray mounting people's movie posters for some time (not unlike a couple of the horror stories we've heard on here recently). Anyway, obviously the guy was upset by this and took his poster back, but I have no idea what he said or threatened the framer with. Later that same day, my (ever helpful) ex boss suggested that the guy might be able to remove it from the backing board if he used some soapy water. The next day, the guy comes into our shop and explained to us how he'd taken my boss's advice and left the whole thing to soak in soapy water overnight. Weighted it down and everything. Come the morning, he was quite mortified to discover his original Snow White poster had become some expensive papier mache. Well didn't I almost wet myself. I couldn't breathe for like 5 minutes. It was like the perfect storm of stupid. God I miss that place. Its all changed at Laz since those days. |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:12:34 GMT 1, Joking Steve, keep the Tsunami caged.
Joking Steve, keep the Tsunami caged.
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:33:27 GMT 1, New question. I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood?
New question. I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood? Are you sure that these are not 14th / 15th century Polychromed Oak or Limewood woodcarvings from the Low countries?, if they are just throw them in a peat bog. |
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Preserving your art, by South Bound on Jul 26, 2014 18:39:09 GMT 1, New question. I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood? Are you sure that these are not 14th / 15th century Polychromed Oak or Limewood woodcarvings from the Low countries?, if they are just throw them in a peat bog.
I'm actually using those as chew toys for the dog... I figured there really old so who would care
New question. I've recently found some wood carvings (flat) that are carved to look like farm animals and painted with watercolor (this is an assumption only) These were my father's when he was a child and have since accumulated 70 years worth of dirt and dust. I want to clean them up to really make the colors pop. Is there a prefered method for cleaning watercolor on wood? Are you sure that these are not 14th / 15th century Polychromed Oak or Limewood woodcarvings from the Low countries?, if they are just throw them in a peat bog. I'm actually using those as chew toys for the dog... I figured there really old so who would care |
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Preserving your art, by lucky7 on Aug 2, 2014 5:32:28 GMT 1, Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time.
Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time.
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Preserving your art, by johnnyh on Aug 2, 2014 6:10:35 GMT 1, Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time.
Not sure what you've got to moan about ...that's two years longer than it sounds like Dss111 's will last !!! 
Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time. Not sure what you've got to moan about ...that's two years longer than it sounds like Dss111 's will last !!! |
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Preserving your art, by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 7:28:33 GMT 1, Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time. 
Sometimes I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing and all my art will be worthless in 5 years time. Sell it in 4 years and buy new art and repeat |
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Preserving your art, by leebs on Aug 2, 2014 8:19:53 GMT 1, Does anyone know of a good framer that would know all of this in west London please?
Does anyone know of a good framer that would know all of this in west London please?
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