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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 20:41:11 GMT 1, And there have been multiple cities I hear. Some shipping labels in Vegas, some in NYC. SO strange.
And there have been multiple cities I hear. Some shipping labels in Vegas, some in NYC. SO strange.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Lroy on Dec 19, 2014 21:07:38 GMT 1, BNE 2014 ?! What a mess it was, lol ... Incredible If we begin to think about this story.. This guy, playing with the name of banksy or not, with #bansky then #banksy but #yesbanksy but #nobankyy and yes... # then no # etc, etc... .. Are we pupils ? With money ? Rich pupils ?
Do he ( they ? - if collabs... ) thinks that we are puppets, puppets of street-art or not with banks account in Switzerland or Panama ?! It is not only the web, sucker, we don't care about the web, we are human too and have a real life , with sh.ts ans needs , etc, etc.. I have only 1 euro and 82 cents on my bank account, sucker, waiting for my payday until xmas ! Don't play to much BNE, the harder will come ! #noart #nomoney #onlyfoodanddignity
BNE 2014 ?! What a mess it was, lol ... Incredible If we begin to think about this story.. This guy, playing with the name of banksy or not, with #bansky then #banksy but #yesbanksy but #nobankyy and yes... # then no # etc, etc... .. Are we pupils ? With money ? Rich pupils ?
Do he ( they ? - if collabs... ) thinks that we are puppets, puppets of street-art or not with banks account in Switzerland or Panama ?! It is not only the web, sucker, we don't care about the web, we are human too and have a real life , with sh.ts ans needs , etc, etc.. I have only 1 euro and 82 cents on my bank account, sucker, waiting for my payday until xmas ! Don't play to much BNE, the harder will come ! #noart #nomoney #onlyfoodanddignity
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Lroy on Dec 20, 2014 9:03:03 GMT 1, Thank You Nordicstar.
Respect is the master word. BNE played with people as checkers in a game. I know they call it internet, they call it street-art, they call it, money, basket, shop, ship, chap... It is not a game. We are notmoney pumps. Where is the Hype here ? The art performance here ? Banksy ? Not Banksy ? Only trade, bizness etc... No more. Cheap in the mind but expensive one ! Fans are not cash cows ! Anyway, there is rules when you buy in a real shop or on the web : you must respect and be polite with the customer whatever the price ( here is was not chewing-gums ) and second, you must notice the price and notify all details about the item. Here we could complain about BNE But I won't create any syndicate, nor a page on fracebook , lol.
Thank You Nordicstar.
Respect is the master word. BNE played with people as checkers in a game. I know they call it internet, they call it street-art, they call it, money, basket, shop, ship, chap... It is not a game. We are notmoney pumps. Where is the Hype here ? The art performance here ? Banksy ? Not Banksy ? Only trade, bizness etc... No more. Cheap in the mind but expensive one ! Fans are not cash cows ! Anyway, there is rules when you buy in a real shop or on the web : you must respect and be polite with the customer whatever the price ( here is was not chewing-gums ) and second, you must notice the price and notify all details about the item. Here we could complain about BNE But I won't create any syndicate, nor a page on fracebook , lol.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by rccollins on Dec 20, 2014 14:28:53 GMT 1, How is BNE not in jail yet? serious question.
How is BNE not in jail yet? serious question.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 15:52:28 GMT 1, He's not in jail yet, but who knows if the authorities are building up a file on him.
It all depends if anyone has made an official complaint, also the IRS usually looks at income.
He seems to be avoiding direct questions which implies something.
He's not in jail yet, but who knows if the authorities are building up a file on him.
It all depends if anyone has made an official complaint, also the IRS usually looks at income.
He seems to be avoiding direct questions which implies something.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 16:49:50 GMT 1, Did people received a print already? ....
Did people received a print already? ....
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Dec 20, 2014 16:58:43 GMT 1, I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him.
I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:04:26 GMT 1, I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him. Someone should make a complaint if they feel ripped-off. It all depends on the prints i guess... IF they arrive and what it is..... Also IF he donated money to charity and IF he sold more t-shirts than he originally stated....
Also i thought Faile pulled out also? Perhaps they could make a complaint also?
I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him. Someone should make a complaint if they feel ripped-off. It all depends on the prints i guess... IF they arrive and what it is..... Also IF he donated money to charity and IF he sold more t-shirts than he originally stated.... Also i thought Faile pulled out also? Perhaps they could make a complaint also?
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:05:51 GMT 1, I think that people who bought anything on the basis that money would also go to the water charity have the right to demand proof of how much money was raised and a trail of that money as to where it ended up.
If the friend who works for the Eye has knowledge of any complaints or issues, I doubt they would disclose that anyway.
I think that people who bought anything on the basis that money would also go to the water charity have the right to demand proof of how much money was raised and a trail of that money as to where it ended up.
If the friend who works for the Eye has knowledge of any complaints or issues, I doubt they would disclose that anyway.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Dec 20, 2014 17:10:40 GMT 1, I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him. Someone should make a complaint if they feel ripped-off. It all depends on the prints i guess... IF they arrive and what it is..... Also i thought Faile pulled out also? Perhaps they could make a complaint? I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due.
I have a friend who works in Homeland Security. Previously, he worked for the FBI. I've been debating asking if he knows anyone who works in internet or art fraud. My only hessitation is I didn't fall for it, so I'm not a victim. I'm not sure if I want to get myself mixed up in this. But I think if someone looks into it, this wouldn't turn out particularly good for him. Someone should make a complaint if they feel ripped-off. It all depends on the prints i guess... IF they arrive and what it is..... Also i thought Faile pulled out also? Perhaps they could make a complaint? I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:12:00 GMT 1, I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due. Yeah i edited that part in also
I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due. Yeah i edited that part in also
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Dec 20, 2014 17:28:43 GMT 1, I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due. Yeah i edited that part in also Yeah, if I had bought one of the shirts, I probably would file a complaint. But I filed with Paypal as soon as I found out Banksy wasn't involved and got my money back.
I was thinking more along the lines of letting someone higher up know about it and see if a guy stealing a large sum of money intended for charity is of any interest to them.
But if anyone who did buy a shirt wants to file a complaint, here's where to do it.
www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx
I was thinking more of the shirt money that was supposed to go to charity but never did. That was likely a six figure fraud right there. My guess is he also doesn't intend to pay tax on that. So he could be on the hook for income tax evasion here in a few months when taxes are due. Yeah i edited that part in also Yeah, if I had bought one of the shirts, I probably would file a complaint. But I filed with Paypal as soon as I found out Banksy wasn't involved and got my money back. I was thinking more along the lines of letting someone higher up know about it and see if a guy stealing a large sum of money intended for charity is of any interest to them. But if anyone who did buy a shirt wants to file a complaint, here's where to do it. www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Lroy on Dec 20, 2014 18:01:47 GMT 1, What else to say, here, on this hoax of the year? Ultimately BNE played with the name of Banksy (and its F... " # " with " #banksy " then " #banksy " and there is misrepresentation, or deception on the goods (as if in a Antiquarian shop, they took off the label " made in China " to make it appear that they sell some real and ancient porcelain from Russia. I wish one thing that buyers have a real Banky or banksy ( or another street-artist of renown) and not only registered: BNE on the COA! Otherwise it would be a ( bad and cheap ) steal ! So easy.... bah, we'll see... Lol, if it is a real BNE print, what a fool ! And I hope that peopmle won't come to speak about charity, nobody bought these tees ( more than 3x50, per artist, lol !!! ) nor the print for water, but for INvader, Banksy etc... We can see it on ebay...
What else to say, here, on this hoax of the year? Ultimately BNE played with the name of Banksy (and its F... " # " with " #banksy " then " #banksy " and there is misrepresentation, or deception on the goods (as if in a Antiquarian shop, they took off the label " made in China " to make it appear that they sell some real and ancient porcelain from Russia. I wish one thing that buyers have a real Banky or banksy ( or another street-artist of renown) and not only registered: BNE on the COA! Otherwise it would be a ( bad and cheap ) steal ! So easy.... bah, we'll see... Lol, if it is a real BNE print, what a fool ! And I hope that peopmle won't come to speak about charity, nobody bought these tees ( more than 3x50, per artist, lol !!! ) nor the print for water, but for INvader, Banksy etc... We can see it on ebay...
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 18:04:09 GMT 1, You do make me concentrate on your writing Roy.... I love your way of expressing your feelings and thoughts! I think i am 100% with you on your views....
You do make me concentrate on your writing Roy.... I love your way of expressing your feelings and thoughts! I think i am 100% with you on your views....
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by aldoxzx on Dec 20, 2014 18:21:02 GMT 1, Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund.
He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it.
Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily.
Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund.
He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it.
Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Lroy on Dec 20, 2014 18:58:33 GMT 1, To aldoxzx : Maybe he gives refunds ( after how many mails or claims ? ) , but imagine : all the time wasting, these " fears ", the money going " we don't knwo where " , etc, etc... He wrote for the print ( not for the tees ) that there will not have any refunds. I am sure of that. And paypal stops refunds ( or blocking the money ) after 2 months.
To aldoxzx : Maybe he gives refunds ( after how many mails or claims ? ) , but imagine : all the time wasting, these " fears ", the money going " we don't knwo where " , etc, etc... He wrote for the print ( not for the tees ) that there will not have any refunds. I am sure of that. And paypal stops refunds ( or blocking the money ) after 2 months.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by noah0189 on Dec 20, 2014 20:41:47 GMT 1, I'm thinking it's an MBW x BNE.
I'm thinking it's an MBW x BNE.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by fingerz on Dec 20, 2014 20:58:02 GMT 1, i dont know why Roy but when i read your post's i kinda rapped them in a french accent , maybe its because your french and the girlfriend is wrapping xmas presents , i dont know but i'm glad i got it off my chest .....
i dont know why Roy but when i read your post's i kinda rapped them in a french accent , maybe its because your french and the girlfriend is wrapping xmas presents , i dont know but i'm glad i got it off my chest .....
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 22:15:07 GMT 1, I don't believe I'm still reading about people who sent money to this git. Throws hands up into the air. Armache yet Bob?.
I don't believe I'm still reading about people who sent money to this git. Throws hands up into the air. Armache yet Bob?.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 22:16:48 GMT 1, I heard BNE spoke to the wrong Banksy, the facebook or twitter one. haha, you heard wrong. Very very reliable source. Although, not really that reliable really.
I heard BNE spoke to the wrong Banksy, the facebook or twitter one. haha, you heard wrong. Very very reliable source. Although, not really that reliable really.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 22:21:02 GMT 1, I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why..
I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why..
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by supercockle on Dec 20, 2014 22:26:23 GMT 1, Not until the end of the "originals worth ยฃ40,000 for only ยฃ3,000" saga, that immediately follows this one. I for one am in!
Not until the end of the "originals worth ยฃ40,000 for only ยฃ3,000" saga, that immediately follows this one. I for one am in!
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Chrisp on Dec 20, 2014 22:26:43 GMT 1, i dont know why Roy but when i read your post's i kinda rapped them in a french accent , maybe its because your french and the girlfriend is wrapping xmas presents , i dont know but i'm glad i got it off my chest .....
I find it easier to understand if I do that, for real. No offense Roy, you know I find your posts both entertaining and intriguing.
i dont know why Roy but when i read your post's i kinda rapped them in a french accent , maybe its because your french and the girlfriend is wrapping xmas presents , i dont know but i'm glad i got it off my chest ..... I find it easier to understand if I do that, for real. No offense Roy, you know I find your posts both entertaining and intriguing.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Dec 20, 2014 23:25:34 GMT 1, Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund. He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it. Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily. The t-shirt money was pretty cut and dry fraud. He offered refunds after Banksy said he wasn't involved, but said he would collaborate with another artist and the money would all still go to charity. He also said that whoever stuck with him would be rewarded with a $5,000 print for $100, which he later raised to $500. We all know how that turned out.
After a good amount of time had passed, long enough for Paypal's dispute window to expire, he delivered a half assed shirt with no art to speak of. Someone on here had even mocked up the same joke a few months before, which is where he probably got the idea.
If that's had been the extent of his shenanigans, he probably would have been fine. But then he said the charity refused his donation because the money was collected under false pretenses. He then said he would find another charity to give it to.
If he had followed through, he still probably would have been fine. But he lied and said that some mysterious person had contacted every single charity known to man and that no one would take his money. And because of that, he would keep the money and spend it as he saw fit. That's where he crossed the line.
He didn't offer any refunds at that point. He simply kept the money and has likely been living off it ever since.
As for the income tax evasion, he collected the money as charitable donations. If he tries to claim that it's tax exempt, he could find himself in a fair bit of trouble.
Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund. He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it. Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily. The t-shirt money was pretty cut and dry fraud. He offered refunds after Banksy said he wasn't involved, but said he would collaborate with another artist and the money would all still go to charity. He also said that whoever stuck with him would be rewarded with a $5,000 print for $100, which he later raised to $500. We all know how that turned out. After a good amount of time had passed, long enough for Paypal's dispute window to expire, he delivered a half assed shirt with no art to speak of. Someone on here had even mocked up the same joke a few months before, which is where he probably got the idea. If that's had been the extent of his shenanigans, he probably would have been fine. But then he said the charity refused his donation because the money was collected under false pretenses. He then said he would find another charity to give it to. If he had followed through, he still probably would have been fine. But he lied and said that some mysterious person had contacted every single charity known to man and that no one would take his money. And because of that, he would keep the money and spend it as he saw fit. That's where he crossed the line. He didn't offer any refunds at that point. He simply kept the money and has likely been living off it ever since. As for the income tax evasion, he collected the money as charitable donations. If he tries to claim that it's tax exempt, he could find himself in a fair bit of trouble.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Dec 20, 2014 23:27:41 GMT 1, I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads.
I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Chrisp on Dec 20, 2014 23:35:12 GMT 1, I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads.
That would be a fair amount of drugs. I don't think I could even get through that much.
I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads. That would be a fair amount of drugs. I don't think I could even get through that much.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by aldoxzx on Dec 21, 2014 0:21:25 GMT 1, Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund. He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it. Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily. The t-shirt money was pretty cut and dry fraud. He offered refunds after Banksy said he wasn't involved, but said he would collaborate with another artist and the money would all still go to charity. He also said that whoever stuck with him would be rewarded with a $5,000 print for $100, which he later raised to $500. We all know how that turned out.
None of these things are related. The original shirt sale (the "100" Faile/Invader/Fairey shirts) were not limited, but anyone who wanted a refund got one. I know several people asked for a refund, got one, and didn't have to send back their shirt.
Delivering a half-assed shirt is not fraud. It's just delivering a s**tty shirt. Wasn't the original purchase page a shirt with a question mark on it or something? That's like buying a "mystery" tube from an artist and getting crap.
I have not seen one person in this thread saying they asked for a refund and didn't get it. Got a post to quote? AFAIK anyone who asked for a refund got one. If you didn't like the charity shenanigans you were free to get your money back. I personally bought a Faile scuba horse shirt and kept it.. whatever it didn't go to charity, but I still have my shirt that I am fine with.
Also, Paypal's window running out does not limit your options - you could still file a chargeback, call your bank, etc.
Just to be clear, this way this guy has done business is really dumb and shady, but if he actually took people's money (as in, someone asked for their money back and didn't get it), this thread would be more along the lines of the recent thread about the artist who didn't deliver the OGs.
Not defending the guy but, what exactly did he steal? If you didn't like that the money wasn't going to charity you asked, and got, a refund no questions asked. If you didn't like that the shirts weren't limited you asked and got a refund. If you didn't like him saying he was involved with Banksy and wasn't, you got a refund. He did not keep money from anyone and for whatever reason if you wanted your money back you got it. Also, Paypal automatically sends the IRS your account information once you hit a certain threshold, which he most likely did easily. The t-shirt money was pretty cut and dry fraud. He offered refunds after Banksy said he wasn't involved, but said he would collaborate with another artist and the money would all still go to charity. He also said that whoever stuck with him would be rewarded with a $5,000 print for $100, which he later raised to $500. We all know how that turned out. None of these things are related. The original shirt sale (the "100" Faile/Invader/Fairey shirts) were not limited, but anyone who wanted a refund got one. I know several people asked for a refund, got one, and didn't have to send back their shirt. Delivering a half-assed shirt is not fraud. It's just delivering a s**tty shirt. Wasn't the original purchase page a shirt with a question mark on it or something? That's like buying a "mystery" tube from an artist and getting crap. I have not seen one person in this thread saying they asked for a refund and didn't get it. Got a post to quote? AFAIK anyone who asked for a refund got one. If you didn't like the charity shenanigans you were free to get your money back. I personally bought a Faile scuba horse shirt and kept it.. whatever it didn't go to charity, but I still have my shirt that I am fine with. Also, Paypal's window running out does not limit your options - you could still file a chargeback, call your bank, etc. Just to be clear, this way this guy has done business is really dumb and shady, but if he actually took people's money (as in, someone asked for their money back and didn't get it), this thread would be more along the lines of the recent thread about the artist who didn't deliver the OGs.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by thomasmer on Dec 21, 2014 5:45:55 GMT 1, Totally agree.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by thomasmer on Dec 21, 2014 5:48:53 GMT 1, I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads. Love it when the Daily Mail comes out to play.
Anyone got their Banksy's delivered yet should be dropping soon for Christmas.
I still wonder if we would ever get to know what really happened and why.. If I had to guess, I'd blame it on drugs. People do stupid things when too many chemicals are floating around in their heads. Love it when the Daily Mail comes out to play. Anyone got their Banksy's delivered yet should be dropping soon for Christmas.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 15:33:38 GMT 1, haha, you heard wrong. Very very reliable source. Although, not really that reliable really. mmmm, pretty reliable really really really.
haha, you heard wrong. Very very reliable source. Although, not really that reliable really. mmmm, pretty reliable really really really.
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