kbfrombk
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by kbfrombk on Dec 2, 2014 15:20:05 GMT 1, I don't think it'll do anything but Expand her audience... Now let's agree that audience and purchasing public are different categories altogether, ja? Selling a larger-sized print (this thing is huge!) with a tiny edition at a predictable price slope (OK no hand-finishing is sad, hehe, until the buyers receive them and start pointing out how each one appears to be a unique individual piece with varying registrations, etc. ) that is well in line with what has been easily agreed upon regarding preferred style, doesn't exactly lend itself to being called anything resembling 'limiting'; other than of course the limited edition size... IMO/duh by limiting I mean, out of all the people who enjoy her artwork and would like a print, only a selected few can afford to own it. this print is meant for that audience, not the casual street art fan who can only afford to throw down a couple hundred dollars every now and then for a print some artists sell prints for much cheaper to appeal to a larger collector fan base who can't afford OG's and buy prints as the only means to own artwork from artists they enjoy. some don't. some do both. I don't think there's anything wrong with any of these scenarios - but there is a different intended audience for prints that cost $200, and prints that cost $1K I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate...
Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information.
Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release?
Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job.
...Is how I try to see these things these days.
I don't think it'll do anything but Expand her audience... Now let's agree that audience and purchasing public are different categories altogether, ja? Selling a larger-sized print (this thing is huge!) with a tiny edition at a predictable price slope (OK no hand-finishing is sad, hehe, until the buyers receive them and start pointing out how each one appears to be a unique individual piece with varying registrations, etc. ) that is well in line with what has been easily agreed upon regarding preferred style, doesn't exactly lend itself to being called anything resembling 'limiting'; other than of course the limited edition size... IMO/duh by limiting I mean, out of all the people who enjoy her artwork and would like a print, only a selected few can afford to own it. this print is meant for that audience, not the casual street art fan who can only afford to throw down a couple hundred dollars every now and then for a print some artists sell prints for much cheaper to appeal to a larger collector fan base who can't afford OG's and buy prints as the only means to own artwork from artists they enjoy. some don't. some do both. I don't think there's anything wrong with any of these scenarios - but there is a different intended audience for prints that cost $200, and prints that cost $1K I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate... Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information. Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release? Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job. ...Is how I try to see these things these days.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 15:23:47 GMT 1, by limiting I mean, out of all the people who enjoy her artwork and would like a print, only a selected few can afford to own it. this print is meant for that audience, not the casual street art fan who can only afford to throw down a couple hundred dollars every now and then for a print some artists sell prints for much cheaper to appeal to a larger collector fan base who can't afford OG's and buy prints as the only means to own artwork from artists they enjoy. some don't. some do both. I don't think there's anything wrong with any of these scenarios - but there is a different intended audience for prints that cost $200, and prints that cost $1K I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate... Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information. Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release? Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job. ...Is how I try to see these things these days. I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say...I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes
by limiting I mean, out of all the people who enjoy her artwork and would like a print, only a selected few can afford to own it. this print is meant for that audience, not the casual street art fan who can only afford to throw down a couple hundred dollars every now and then for a print some artists sell prints for much cheaper to appeal to a larger collector fan base who can't afford OG's and buy prints as the only means to own artwork from artists they enjoy. some don't. some do both. I don't think there's anything wrong with any of these scenarios - but there is a different intended audience for prints that cost $200, and prints that cost $1K I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate... Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information. Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release? Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job. ...Is how I try to see these things these days. I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say...I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes
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alittle
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by alittle on Dec 2, 2014 15:31:33 GMT 1, She was still doing Xs back in 2007 when the book came out.
Edit: The post I was replying to is now deleted.
She was still doing Xs back in 2007 when the book came out.
Edit: The post I was replying to is now deleted.
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jlf
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by jlf on Dec 2, 2014 15:41:04 GMT 1, I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world.
I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here
I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world.
I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here
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kbfrombk
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by kbfrombk on Dec 2, 2014 15:41:46 GMT 1, I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate... Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information. Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release? Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job. ...Is how I try to see these things these days. I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say...I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes No brother, I do get it. I promise! I'm just being difficult and offering devil's advocate. When I hear that they're refunding me I'm sure I'll be way less 'pleasant' /
I'm not sure all of that is TOTALLY accurate... Too many assumptions on the inner workings of one artist's mind and not enough 1st-hand information. Maybe a casual street art fan has never heard of Maya Hayuk before therefor why would they be included in the "audience" being aimed at with this release? Neither She nor They can be blamed for literally trying to be better at their job. ...Is how I try to see these things these days. I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say...I'm not so good at explaining myself sometimes No brother, I do get it. I promise! I'm just being difficult and offering devil's advocate. When I hear that they're refunding me I'm sure I'll be way less 'pleasant' /
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thriftypix
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by thriftypix on Dec 2, 2014 15:50:16 GMT 1, Beautiful print, but let's face it: the price is a direct appeal to the positive demand curve "fine art" market. Maya's Xs have gotten hot and she is ready to leave most of us penny pinching "emerging artist" collectors (ok, THIS penny-pinching collector) behind. The way it goes. I could easily see her being picked up by a high-end publisher like Durham Press for future print releases. Kayrock does great work, but Durham is in another league (and part of the art world) entirely. I guess we'll see... Congrats to all those who had the cash to pick this up and frame it. The frame up alone likely will cost close to what the print does! Whoa.
Beautiful print, but let's face it: the price is a direct appeal to the positive demand curve "fine art" market. Maya's Xs have gotten hot and she is ready to leave most of us penny pinching "emerging artist" collectors (ok, THIS penny-pinching collector) behind. The way it goes. I could easily see her being picked up by a high-end publisher like Durham Press for future print releases. Kayrock does great work, but Durham is in another league (and part of the art world) entirely. I guess we'll see... Congrats to all those who had the cash to pick this up and frame it. The frame up alone likely will cost close to what the print does! Whoa.
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sohohoho
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by sohohoho on Dec 2, 2014 16:14:57 GMT 1, Only just been marked as sold out.....
Only just been marked as sold out.....
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BKBOI
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by BKBOI on Dec 2, 2014 16:53:10 GMT 1, refunds time
refunds time
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Aza
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Aza on Dec 2, 2014 16:55:03 GMT 1, Perhaps by allowing the over ordering they can gauge how big to make the next edition
Perhaps by allowing the over ordering they can gauge how big to make the next edition
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boyce
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by boyce on Dec 2, 2014 16:55:27 GMT 1, +1
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by noirrion on Dec 2, 2014 17:45:53 GMT 1, And now the Newsletter from Maya Hayuk announced the release as well and some prints available for purchase
And now the Newsletter from Maya Hayuk announced the release as well and some prints available for purchase
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sohohoho
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by sohohoho on Dec 2, 2014 17:49:34 GMT 1, That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy.
That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by wompa on Dec 2, 2014 17:58:47 GMT 1, That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy. You are basing this on what?
That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy. You are basing this on what?
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sohohoho
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by sohohoho on Dec 2, 2014 18:01:24 GMT 1, That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy. You are basing this on what? Science.
That doesn't affect Kayrock's allocation. If Kayrock oversold and haven't dealt with the situation yet, people are going to miss out on Maya's allocation. Could get messy. You are basing this on what? Science.
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Amber Halo
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Amber Halo on Dec 2, 2014 18:04:10 GMT 1, I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world. I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here
Pink Xs are pretty.
I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world. I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here Pink Xs are pretty.
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Matt
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Matt on Dec 2, 2014 18:19:02 GMT 1, And....my refund just came in
I was hesitant on this one so I won't cry about it, but it really is poor form from Kayrock so will definitely steer clear of these clowns in the future...
And....my refund just came in
I was hesitant on this one so I won't cry about it, but it really is poor form from Kayrock so will definitely steer clear of these clowns in the future...
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alittle
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by alittle on Dec 2, 2014 18:21:04 GMT 1, So...that makes 4 places one could of bought an edition of 30? Pretty stupid.
So...that makes 4 places one could of bought an edition of 30? Pretty stupid.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by disdig1 on Dec 2, 2014 18:22:40 GMT 1, LOL who doesn't set up inventory control on an edition of 30 or just in general? very sloppy on their part.
LOL who doesn't set up inventory control on an edition of 30 or just in general? very sloppy on their part.
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Matt
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Matt on Dec 2, 2014 18:25:52 GMT 1, LOL who doesn't set up inventory control on an edition of 30 or just in general? very sloppy on their part.
Guess that leaves 2 options, they are either idiots or scammers.
If they can't figure out how manage online sales with inventory control, even by doing it manually, they are idiots.
If they are letting the sale go through, and the payment, long after they know it sold out to gauge interest, pricing, and build mailing lists, they are scammers.
Make your pick...
LOL who doesn't set up inventory control on an edition of 30 or just in general? very sloppy on their part. Guess that leaves 2 options, they are either idiots or scammers. If they can't figure out how manage online sales with inventory control, even by doing it manually, they are idiots. If they are letting the sale go through, and the payment, long after they know it sold out to gauge interest, pricing, and build mailing lists, they are scammers. Make your pick...
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by kel on Dec 2, 2014 18:30:53 GMT 1, I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world. I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here No I am with you there I really don't get it
I feel Like I'm the only person that doesn't get Maya's work. I mean its ascetically nice, but not out of this world. I don't really understand what its trying to tell me or why it's so popular? Any help would be appreciated, cause I feel like I am missing something here No I am with you there I really don't get it
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Matt
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Matt on Dec 2, 2014 18:34:03 GMT 1, Would also add that it sold out in 4....
...hours. This according to Kayrock
So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose...
Would also add that it sold out in 4....
...hours. This according to Kayrock
So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose...
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sohohoho
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by sohohoho on Dec 2, 2014 18:54:56 GMT 1, Would also add that it sold out in 4.... ...hours. This according to Kayrock So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose... So everyone who bought from Kayrock after 5am/5:30am (UK time) is in for a refund?
Would also add that it sold out in 4.... ...hours. This according to Kayrock So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose... So everyone who bought from Kayrock after 5am/5:30am (UK time) is in for a refund?
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kbfrombk
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by kbfrombk on Dec 2, 2014 18:56:32 GMT 1, Would also add that it sold out in 4.... ...hours. This according to Kayrock So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose... So everyone who bought from Kayrock after 5am/5:30am (UK time) is in for a refund? I'd guess if after 9:49PST USA time yes.
Would also add that it sold out in 4.... ...hours. This according to Kayrock So not being able to stop the sale at such a slow pace really puts you in a league of heavily challenged idiots if you are not doing it on purpose... So everyone who bought from Kayrock after 5am/5:30am (UK time) is in for a refund? I'd guess if after 9:49PST USA time yes.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 19:37:45 GMT 1, I had an email from Maya's studio this afternoon (4.45pm uk) saying to email mayahayukstudio@gmail.com to reserve a Meta-Multiverse#2 - maybe they've held some back?
Was a mailing list email btw not a personal one.
Apparently there are Pilar record covers available too if you e pilarproject2015@gmail.com
Not sure if any of either are left though.
I had an email from Maya's studio this afternoon (4.45pm uk) saying to email mayahayukstudio@gmail.com to reserve a Meta-Multiverse#2 - maybe they've held some back?
Was a mailing list email btw not a personal one.
Apparently there are Pilar record covers available too if you e pilarproject2015@gmail.com
Not sure if any of either are left though.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 19:46:42 GMT 1, I had an email from Maya's studio this afternoon (4.45pm uk) saying to email mayahayukstudio@gmail.com to reserve a Meta-Multiverse#2 - maybe they've held some back? Was a mailing list email btw not a personal one. Apparently there are Pilar record covers available too if you e pilarproject2015@gmail.com Not sure if any of either are left though.
Edit: Def record covers available.
I had an email from Maya's studio this afternoon (4.45pm uk) saying to email mayahayukstudio@gmail.com to reserve a Meta-Multiverse#2 - maybe they've held some back? Was a mailing list email btw not a personal one. Apparently there are Pilar record covers available too if you e pilarproject2015@gmail.com Not sure if any of either are left though. Edit: Def record covers available.
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samfrost
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by samfrost on Dec 2, 2014 20:02:32 GMT 1, In my experience, if you inquire politely to her gallery reps it is fairly easy to source works direct from the primary market. Again to me it comes down to the quality of the work vs. just buying a work to say you have a print etc from Maya. Clearly she is trying to differentiate her market and collector base at this point as evidenced by her recent show/primary prices. For now it seems to have been successful based on a few unsolicited data points I have from galleries. My two cents.
In my experience, if you inquire politely to her gallery reps it is fairly easy to source works direct from the primary market. Again to me it comes down to the quality of the work vs. just buying a work to say you have a print etc from Maya. Clearly she is trying to differentiate her market and collector base at this point as evidenced by her recent show/primary prices. For now it seems to have been successful based on a few unsolicited data points I have from galleries. My two cents.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by meh. on Dec 2, 2014 20:07:39 GMT 1, ADHD in full swing here.. please please please start writing in the white space below the grey. Some respite from your ADHD! ... the screen I was earlier didn't show the coloured boxes.
ADHD in full swing here.. please please please start writing in the white space below the grey. Some respite from your ADHD! ... the screen I was earlier didn't show the coloured boxes.
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by Deleted on Dec 2, 2014 21:29:12 GMT 1, Does Maya take requests for letters other than "X"? I'd love an "F"
Does Maya take requests for letters other than "X"? I'd love an "F"
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BKBOI
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by BKBOI on Dec 2, 2014 21:40:10 GMT 1, anyone else get refunded?
anyone else get refunded?
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kbfrombk
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Maya Hayuk - Multiverses #2 - Available Now!, by kbfrombk on Dec 2, 2014 21:43:28 GMT 1, anyone else get refunded? yup
anyone else get refunded? yup
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