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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Fะฏ on Mar 22, 2015 17:45:54 GMT 1, I think theres a difference between online flips and in person flips. Those who go to shows with their mum, dog and dogs friend to get multiple prints are worse. At least online its fastest finger, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. It is even ground. It also what you class as a flipper. I class a flipper as someone who buys and sells instantly with no interest. These people know nothing about art or anything. They often sell trainers and gig tickets as well. Same people who turn up with pit bull terriers in a banksy queue. They are the scum. Then you have the collector flips who have an extensive collection and sell bits here and there to buy something further. There is a definite line, i would class most on here and myself in the second category so its not all bad if you keep some for the walls and frame stuff. This conversation was going on 8 years ago on here, glad to see people are still fresh off the boat otherwise it would get boring. where doesn selling the dran released a week ago come into your highly tuned sense of fair play?
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What planetary time system do you work on. Was not last week or the week before or even week before that.
I sense a disgruntled ex forum member under a new guise.
I think theres a difference between online flips and in person flips. Those who go to shows with their mum, dog and dogs friend to get multiple prints are worse. At least online its fastest finger, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. It is even ground. It also what you class as a flipper. I class a flipper as someone who buys and sells instantly with no interest. These people know nothing about art or anything. They often sell trainers and gig tickets as well. Same people who turn up with pit bull terriers in a banksy queue. They are the scum. Then you have the collector flips who have an extensive collection and sell bits here and there to buy something further. There is a definite line, i would class most on here and myself in the second category so its not all bad if you keep some for the walls and frame stuff. This conversation was going on 8 years ago on here, glad to see people are still fresh off the boat otherwise it would get boring. where doesn selling the dran released a week ago come into your highly tuned sense of fair play? Fastest finger online What planetary time system do you work on. Was not last week or the week before or even week before that. I sense a disgruntled ex forum member under a new guise. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Dungle on Mar 22, 2015 17:49:00 GMT 1, I don't think any have sold openly, makes it very difficult to put a price on it.
Depends how strong the image is I guess. I would think you'd easily get 400 or so.
I don't think any have sold openly, makes it very difficult to put a price on it.
Depends how strong the image is I guess. I would think you'd easily get 400 or so.
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Coach on Mar 22, 2015 17:54:35 GMT 1, I do think flipping is pretty unpleasant. Fans who want the print to hang miss out. And the flippers are making their money off the back of the artists talent, discouraging them to sell at an affordable price. But, as you say, hypocrisy is pretty unpleasant too. I think theres a difference between online flips and in person flips. Those who go to shows with their mum, dog and dogs friend to get multiple prints are worse. At least online its fastest finger, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. It is even ground. It also what you class as a flipper. I class a flipper as someone who buys and sells instantly with no interest. These people know nothing about art or anything. They often sell trainers and gig tickets as well. Same people who turn up with pit bull terriers in a banksy queue. They are the scum. Then you have the collector flips who have an extensive collection and sell bits here and there to buy something further. There is a definite line, i would class most on here and myself in the second category so its not all bad if you keep some for the walls and frame stuff. This conversation was going on 8 years ago on here, glad to see people are still fresh off the boat otherwise it would get boring.
I don't disagree with any if that.
There are, as you say, degrees.
And those turning up en masse with family or hired help who don't know what they are buying, to deprive the rest of the queue, are awful.
I do think flipping is pretty unpleasant. Fans who want the print to hang miss out. And the flippers are making their money off the back of the artists talent, discouraging them to sell at an affordable price. But, as you say, hypocrisy is pretty unpleasant too. I think theres a difference between online flips and in person flips. Those who go to shows with their mum, dog and dogs friend to get multiple prints are worse. At least online its fastest finger, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. It is even ground. It also what you class as a flipper. I class a flipper as someone who buys and sells instantly with no interest. These people know nothing about art or anything. They often sell trainers and gig tickets as well. Same people who turn up with pit bull terriers in a banksy queue. They are the scum. Then you have the collector flips who have an extensive collection and sell bits here and there to buy something further. There is a definite line, i would class most on here and myself in the second category so its not all bad if you keep some for the walls and frame stuff. This conversation was going on 8 years ago on here, glad to see people are still fresh off the boat otherwise it would get boring. I don't disagree with any if that. There are, as you say, degrees. And those turning up en masse with family or hired help who don't know what they are buying, to deprive the rest of the queue, are awful. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 17:55:02 GMT 1, I don't see how something said to a person is a reflection of that person's c**tiness; it would be different if the person said it him/herself. For example, if someone comes up to my mom and says "you're a piece of s**t," then I wouldn't assume my mom was a piece of s**t as a result. ?
I don't see how something said to a person is a reflection of that person's c**tiness; it would be different if the person said it him/herself. For example, if someone comes up to my mom and says "you're a piece of s**t," then I wouldn't assume my mom was a piece of s**t as a result. ? Nevermind |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Dungle on Mar 22, 2015 17:55:08 GMT 1, I would be very surprised if it's the majority, as you suggest. Perhaps I'm being naive. I can almost definitely say that it is the majority of actively participating members, based on what I've seen - I always do a little background research when I see someone lashing out at flippers, and for other random sales threads. Not naming names; frankly that'd take too long. I've sent a few PMs to people when they were being really ridiculous/hypocritical so they'd pull their head out of their ass, and they always do; that's as far as I tend to go and it usually requires some shadow flipper preaching from a pedestal and yelling at people. People just need to stop pitchforking against the free market and let it go. Yelling at FR or other flippers isn't going to change anything; you're just making yourselves more upset.
You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands.
I would be very surprised if it's the majority, as you suggest. Perhaps I'm being naive. I can almost definitely say that it is the majority of actively participating members, based on what I've seen - I always do a little background research when I see someone lashing out at flippers, and for other random sales threads. Not naming names; frankly that'd take too long. I've sent a few PMs to people when they were being really ridiculous/hypocritical so they'd pull their head out of their ass, and they always do; that's as far as I tend to go and it usually requires some shadow flipper preaching from a pedestal and yelling at people. People just need to stop pitchforking against the free market and let it go. Yelling at FR or other flippers isn't going to change anything; you're just making yourselves more upset. You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 17:56:19 GMT 1,
there are about 1000 disgrunted ex fourm members, all with a different flavour of beef, take your pick.
there are about 1000 disgrunted ex fourm members, all with a different flavour of beef, take your pick.
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 17:57:33 GMT 1, I can almost definitely say that it is the majority of actively participating members, based on what I've seen - I always do a little background research when I see someone lashing out at flippers, and for other random sales threads. Not naming names; frankly that'd take too long. I've sent a few PMs to people when they were being really ridiculous/hypocritical so they'd pull their head out of their ass, and they always do; that's as far as I tend to go and it usually requires some shadow flipper preaching from a pedestal and yelling at people. People just need to stop pitchforking against the free market and let it go. Yelling at FR or other flippers isn't going to change anything; you're just making yourselves more upset. You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands.
I can almost definitely say that it is the majority of actively participating members, based on what I've seen - I always do a little background research when I see someone lashing out at flippers, and for other random sales threads. Not naming names; frankly that'd take too long. I've sent a few PMs to people when they were being really ridiculous/hypocritical so they'd pull their head out of their ass, and they always do; that's as far as I tend to go and it usually requires some shadow flipper preaching from a pedestal and yelling at people. People just need to stop pitchforking against the free market and let it go. Yelling at FR or other flippers isn't going to change anything; you're just making yourselves more upset. You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands. Very little, actually. And it takes literal seconds to figure out a user's ebay account and send a PM telling them to stop being a hypocrite, so not a lot of time being put into this. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Fะฏ on Mar 22, 2015 17:58:40 GMT 1, there are about 1000 disgrunted ex fourm members, all with a different flavour of beef, take your pick.
Medium rare.
there are about 1000 disgrunted ex fourm members, all with a different flavour of beef, take your pick. Medium rare. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Dungle on Mar 22, 2015 17:59:58 GMT 1, You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands. Very little, actually. And it takes literal seconds to figure out a user's ebay account and send a PM telling them to stop being a hypocrite, so not a lot of time being put into this.
Even 1 second behaving like the forum police would be too much time invested.
You must have waaaaay too much time on your hands. Very little, actually. And it takes literal seconds to figure out a user's ebay account and send a PM telling them to stop being a hypocrite, so not a lot of time being put into this. Even 1 second behaving like the forum police would be too much time invested. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by mutatis on Mar 22, 2015 18:18:11 GMT 1, I have 1 Etching from BORONDO alveare series. I like it very much. My intention is not to sell but I was wondering what would be the price on the second market? there shouldn't be a secondary market yet. If anyone got one and doesn't want it, they should sell it at cost to someone who wanted one and missed out.
I have 1 Etching from BORONDO alveare series. I like it very much. My intention is not to sell but I was wondering what would be the price on the second market? there shouldn't be a secondary market yet. If anyone got one and doesn't want it, they should sell it at cost to someone who wanted one and missed out. I respectfully disagree about the secondary market. Given the popularity of these works on here alone, it was clear that demand far outstripped supply. I am sure there are many who missed out and there are those that now having seen the pieces want one. So a secondary market is already there. Choosing to sell at cost is down to the seller. In the circumstances it might be considered appropriate forum etiquette and garner the seller "goodwill"; however, the seller equally can take it to ebay and test the market, therefore I would not presume to tell a prospective seller what to do. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by commissioner on Mar 22, 2015 18:32:07 GMT 1, coo coo 
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Ottomatik on Mar 22, 2015 18:41:04 GMT 1, I'm pissed about all the Banksy flipping that's happening at this time.
I'm also disappointed in FR for not getting more for his Borondo!!!!
I'm pissed about all the Banksy flipping that's happening at this time. I'm also disappointed in FR for not getting more for his Borondo!!!! |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 18:46:43 GMT 1, so..... anyone received their print yet?
so..... anyone received their print yet?
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by joecool91 on Mar 22, 2015 21:54:45 GMT 1, Also think it's very image dependant - I saw the one on eBay and the image was poor compared to some of the ones I've seen on here!
Also think it's very image dependant - I saw the one on eBay and the image was poor compared to some of the ones I've seen on here!
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 21:55:26 GMT 1, Please people stop feeding the troll. He flips, he knows it and he loves the attention he gets on threads like this.
Anyway, like Fed has asked, has anyone got theirs yet? What's it like in person?
Please people stop feeding the troll. He flips, he knows it and he loves the attention he gets on threads like this.
Anyway, like Fed has asked, has anyone got theirs yet? What's it like in person?
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by sierrahotel on Mar 22, 2015 22:07:05 GMT 1, 200-400 image dependant I think
200-400 image dependant I think
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by TeddyJ on Mar 22, 2015 22:50:27 GMT 1, If you want to sell, send me a PM! 
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 22:54:58 GMT 1, Please people stop feeding the troll. He flips, he knows it and he loves the attention he gets on threads like this. Anyway, like Fed has asked, has anyone got theirs yet? What's it like in person? No one is trolling. i never start these bulls**t posts calling me a c**t. but i will respond to being called a c**t. and by the way, the print quality is excellent but not for me.
was it shipped tubed or flat? separate packages for the book and print?
Please people stop feeding the troll. He flips, he knows it and he loves the attention he gets on threads like this. Anyway, like Fed has asked, has anyone got theirs yet? What's it like in person? No one is trolling. i never start these bulls**t posts calling me a c**t. but i will respond to being called a c**t. and by the way, the print quality is excellent but not for me. was it shipped tubed or flat? separate packages for the book and print? |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Invaded 420 on Mar 23, 2015 0:24:49 GMT 1, I see one of the first glass etchings is up on the bay!
I see one of the first glass etchings is up on the bay!
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 4:09:34 GMT 1, there's one on the bay now that started at 0.99GBP and is at 122 now; probably a good gauge for price (although image matters also).
there's one on the bay now that started at 0.99GBP and is at 122 now; probably a good gauge for price (although image matters also).
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by dranfan14 on Mar 23, 2015 7:40:40 GMT 1, I'm still looking for another one, pm me if selling
I'm still looking for another one, pm me if selling
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by vei on Mar 24, 2015 14:01:03 GMT 1, Anyone else got theirs? I'm still waiting!
Anyone else got theirs? I'm still waiting!
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by dranfan14 on Mar 24, 2015 14:25:51 GMT 1, nothing here yet
nothing here yet
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Mar 24, 2015 15:06:29 GMT 1, Nowt yet, maybe FR is on the vip list
Nowt yet, maybe FR is on the vip list |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Mar 24, 2015 15:13:42 GMT 1, No print or refund yet.
On another topic, has anyone ordered Dran books from the fnac.com website and received them? I've been waiting a couple of weeks and all is very quiet.
No print or refund yet.
On another topic, has anyone ordered Dran books from the fnac.com website and received them? I've been waiting a couple of weeks and all is very quiet.
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 19:49:36 GMT 1, No print or refund yet. On another topic, has anyone ordered Dran books from the fnac.com website and received them? I've been waiting a couple of weeks and all is very quiet.
Check your spam folder - Ive had a couple of emails that I've roughly translated to mean that they have been delayed finding them and wouldn't charge me until they had. You should be able to log on and see your order.
I think they're sold out. 
No print or refund yet. On another topic, has anyone ordered Dran books from the fnac.com website and received them? I've been waiting a couple of weeks and all is very quiet. Check your spam folder - Ive had a couple of emails that I've roughly translated to mean that they have been delayed finding them and wouldn't charge me until they had. You should be able to log on and see your order. I think they're sold out. |
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Mar 24, 2015 20:29:33 GMT 1, Thanks Ekap, I'll check.
I'll be honest I was totally expecting them to say sold out straight away, but because they hadn't yet said that and hadn't refunded the money, I was hoping that there was a very slim chance I might still get them!
Thanks Ekap, I'll check.
I'll be honest I was totally expecting them to say sold out straight away, but because they hadn't yet said that and hadn't refunded the money, I was hoping that there was a very slim chance I might still get them!
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by chads007 on Mar 24, 2015 20:45:50 GMT 1, No one has received their print. I emailed them. Nice try ;-)
No one has received their print. I emailed them. Nice try ;-)
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by commissioner on Mar 24, 2015 21:53:23 GMT 1, Evening All
For Sale
Borondo - Naive Screen Print - ยฃ50 delivered UK
other bits here link
Evening All For Sale Borondo - Naive Screen Print - ยฃ50 delivered UK other bits here link
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Gonzalo Borondo ๐ช๐ฆ Spanish Glass Artist โข Street Art, by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 22:06:44 GMT 1, Nice print.
Nice print.
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