Lazarus II
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by Lazarus II on Feb 21, 2021 20:05:45 GMT 1, Time to sell for that very decent profit methinks, that way you can sleep easy and not worry about some t**t fcking the market.
Time to sell for that very decent profit methinks, that way you can sleep easy and not worry about some t**t fcking the market.
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7star
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 21, 2021 20:30:42 GMT 1, I'll call Juliens ....................
I'll call Juliens ....................
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gross
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by gross on Feb 21, 2021 20:36:15 GMT 1, Any info would be lovely Only reason I'm asking I just bought a load of the tenners with Laz Letter as a smart investment and a friend suggested that someone with a real note/sheet of notes could reverse engineer the metal printing plate? Surely not
Lots of fakes with fakes letters have been some in the last few months
Any info would be lovely Only reason I'm asking I just bought a load of the tenners with Laz Letter as a smart investment and a friend suggested that someone with a real note/sheet of notes could reverse engineer the metal printing plate? Surely not Lots of fakes with fakes letters have been some in the last few months
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LJCal
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by LJCal on Feb 21, 2021 20:38:27 GMT 1, There are loads of fake tenners but pretty easy to spot, I’m sure someone could produce convincing fakes if they invested enough time and money but I doubt it’s worth it as people wont pay proper money for them unless they come from legitimate sources and legitimate sources probably wouldn’t buy them for long before realising they were being forged.
There are loads of fake tenners but pretty easy to spot, I’m sure someone could produce convincing fakes if they invested enough time and money but I doubt it’s worth it as people wont pay proper money for them unless they come from legitimate sources and legitimate sources probably wouldn’t buy them for long before realising they were being forged.
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rosac
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by rosac on Feb 21, 2021 20:39:34 GMT 1, Pretty much everything can be, and most are faked in the art game. Various posters sell for £1k+ with weak/no provenance. I’ve always though it was bonkers but there is huge demand for these kind of collectibles. As the prices of pest control certified works rise out of most people reach buyers will turn to posters/tenners/postcards/stickers etc despite there being no way on certifying them. They are what they are....
The laz coa really doesn’t mean much. But some potential buyers might find reassurance that you have one. If you feel uncomfortable then sell for a profit and move on.
Pretty much everything can be, and most are faked in the art game. Various posters sell for £1k+ with weak/no provenance. I’ve always though it was bonkers but there is huge demand for these kind of collectibles. As the prices of pest control certified works rise out of most people reach buyers will turn to posters/tenners/postcards/stickers etc despite there being no way on certifying them. They are what they are....
The laz coa really doesn’t mean much. But some potential buyers might find reassurance that you have one. If you feel uncomfortable then sell for a profit and move on.
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dreadware
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by dreadware on Feb 21, 2021 20:54:31 GMT 1, Pretty much everything can be, and most are faked in the art game. Various posters sell for £1k+ with weak/no provenance. I’ve always though it was bonkers but there is huge demand for these kind of collectibles. As the prices of pest control certified works rise out of most people reach buyers will turn to posters/tenners/postcards/stickers etc despite there being no way on certifying them. They are what they are.... The laz coa really doesn’t mean much. But some potential buyers might find reassurance that you have one. If you feel uncomfortable then sell for a profit and move on.
The ones from BNG ,with the 2 holograms are the safest ones. I believe those cannot be faked.
Pretty much everything can be, and most are faked in the art game. Various posters sell for £1k+ with weak/no provenance. I’ve always though it was bonkers but there is huge demand for these kind of collectibles. As the prices of pest control certified works rise out of most people reach buyers will turn to posters/tenners/postcards/stickers etc despite there being no way on certifying them. They are what they are.... The laz coa really doesn’t mean much. But some potential buyers might find reassurance that you have one. If you feel uncomfortable then sell for a profit and move on. The ones from BNG ,with the 2 holograms are the safest ones. I believe those cannot be faked.
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avec art
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by avec art on Feb 21, 2021 21:57:31 GMT 1, I'm not sure about this back engineer business. The plates are acid etched metal, as far as I understand you can still use them, only that I think you might need a separate plate for each colour, so you need about 4 of them which match up.
I'm not sure about this back engineer business. The plates are acid etched metal, as far as I understand you can still use them, only that I think you might need a separate plate for each colour, so you need about 4 of them which match up.
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7star
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 21, 2021 23:23:03 GMT 1, Would love to see a photo of one of them
I remember reading the thread as well
Anyone have the link?
Would love to see a photo of one of them
I remember reading the thread as well
Anyone have the link?
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 21, 2021 23:30:20 GMT 1, So they weren't printes with metal printing plates?
So they weren't printes with metal printing plates?
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avec art
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by avec art on Feb 21, 2021 23:34:00 GMT 1, course they were, the digital scanning an printing quality was not good those days compared to what they are now
course they were, the digital scanning an printing quality was not good those days compared to what they are now
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7star
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 21, 2021 23:41:32 GMT 1, Ah understood
In 04 digital wasn't good enough so metal printing plates used
Now digital files would be used
Having a slow day
Haha
Would love to see one
Ah understood
In 04 digital wasn't good enough so metal printing plates used
Now digital files would be used
Having a slow day
Haha
Would love to see one
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7star
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 22, 2021 0:00:21 GMT 1, Anyone have a link please?
Anyone have a link please?
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avec art
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by avec art on Feb 22, 2021 0:12:30 GMT 1, I'm not saying that is the reason a digital process was not employed, but it's certainly a credible one.
I'm not saying that is the reason a digital process was not employed, but it's certainly a credible one.
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 22, 2021 0:19:19 GMT 1, Where were the og plates sold
Auction house
On here?
Where were the og plates sold
Auction house
On here?
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by 7star on Feb 22, 2021 0:34:46 GMT 1, Thank you 🙂 okay I think I've seen the price I'd die for jesus christ
Thats not metal though is it?
Thank you 🙂 okay I think I've seen the price I'd die for jesus christ
Thats not metal though is it?
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avec art
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by avec art on Feb 22, 2021 1:51:23 GMT 1, so that plate was destroyed by folding it. I don't think it would take much effort to hammer it back into shape sacrificing the middle two notes. You'd still need the other 3 mind. Imagine if there was some crazed individual desperately trying to acquire the full set. I think there's a movie in there somewhere.
so that plate was destroyed by folding it. I don't think it would take much effort to hammer it back into shape sacrificing the middle two notes. You'd still need the other 3 mind. Imagine if there was some crazed individual desperately trying to acquire the full set. I think there's a movie in there somewhere.
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by letterpressed on Feb 22, 2021 2:23:23 GMT 1, Thank you 🙂 okay I think I've seen the price I'd die for jesus christ Thats not metal though is it? That is a used aluminium Litho printing plate, one of 4 or 5 if there was a ‘Special’ Pantone colour used as well.
The plates are originated from Print ready artwork.. ie a PDF!
Thank you 🙂 okay I think I've seen the price I'd die for jesus christ Thats not metal though is it? That is a used aluminium Litho printing plate, one of 4 or 5 if there was a ‘Special’ Pantone colour used as well. The plates are originated from Print ready artwork.. ie a PDF!
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acaipride
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by acaipride on Feb 22, 2021 2:58:39 GMT 1, And so the rug is being pulled out from these... The bng sticker has already 100% been duplicated down to the glue and smell of the adhesive, and the laz letter..well..unless you have a numbered edition letter I would move those sick puppies asap before more ppl start catching on.
And so the rug is being pulled out from these... The bng sticker has already 100% been duplicated down to the glue and smell of the adhesive, and the laz letter..well..unless you have a numbered edition letter I would move those sick puppies asap before more ppl start catching on.
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acaipride
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by acaipride on Feb 22, 2021 4:07:45 GMT 1, And so the rug is being pulled out from these... The bng sticker has already 100% been duplicated down to the glue and smell of the adhesive, and the laz letter..well..unless you have a numbered edition letter I would move those sick puppies asap before more ppl start catching on. We can sell photocopies of the laz letter for thousands!
Some have already..it was just a matter of time when this would start...no log to keep track of letters, tenners, security stickers, etc..just a feeling of security
And so the rug is being pulled out from these... The bng sticker has already 100% been duplicated down to the glue and smell of the adhesive, and the laz letter..well..unless you have a numbered edition letter I would move those sick puppies asap before more ppl start catching on. We can sell photocopies of the laz letter for thousands! Some have already..it was just a matter of time when this would start...no log to keep track of letters, tenners, security stickers, etc..just a feeling of security
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acaipride
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by acaipride on Feb 22, 2021 4:15:04 GMT 1, For your own amusings: Email Laz and ask about assurances against counterfeits and how to spot "spot on" replica fake, the response will make you fall back laughing. There is no authenticity check...no uv mark, no chem paper reaction..nothing to establish authenticity of two real looking ones using the same paper on both the tenners and the letter
For your own amusings: Email Laz and ask about assurances against counterfeits and how to spot "spot on" replica fake, the response will make you fall back laughing. There is no authenticity check...no uv mark, no chem paper reaction..nothing to establish authenticity of two real looking ones using the same paper on both the tenners and the letter
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avec art
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by avec art on Feb 22, 2021 12:09:32 GMT 1, I think the letters from Laz come not just with his signature, but also a thumbprint no?
That thumbprint is in gold I think, which makes photocopied letters very obvious. Scammers have done that on ebay, but they're simply taking advantage of people who lack knowledge in this area.
I think the letters from Laz come not just with his signature, but also a thumbprint no?
That thumbprint is in gold I think, which makes photocopied letters very obvious. Scammers have done that on ebay, but they're simply taking advantage of people who lack knowledge in this area.
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by DAVID HOCKNEY on Feb 22, 2021 12:11:01 GMT 1,
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Sixty Bells
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by Sixty Bells on Feb 22, 2021 13:43:31 GMT 1, To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell
There are simpler ways to fake them
To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell
There are simpler ways to fake them
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by DAVID HOCKNEY on Feb 22, 2021 13:53:17 GMT 1, To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell There are simpler ways to fake them
They wouldn't be forgeries if they were printed from the same plates
To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell There are simpler ways to fake them They wouldn't be forgeries if they were printed from the same plates
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tab1
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by tab1 on Feb 22, 2021 14:13:13 GMT 1, To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell There are simpler ways to fake them
Once the printer sees what a individual note sells for and the potential to print tens of thousands without any authorization process by the artist to track I’m sure they could be swayed Or this guy could fund this project, better returns than his original project 😂
www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/money-for-nothing-the-story-of-the-biggest-counterfeiter-in-us-history-11942377
To fake these FROM THE ORIGINAL SEPARATIONS first you would have to wrestle the original 4 plates from their current owners, like Thanos collecting Infinity Stones. Then you would have to take them to a printer with an offset litho machine the size of a warehouse and explain “I would like to forge the most famous artist in the world, AND print counterfeit ten pound notes”, which is a pretty tough sell There are simpler ways to fake them Once the printer sees what a individual note sells for and the potential to print tens of thousands without any authorization process by the artist to track I’m sure they could be swayed Or this guy could fund this project, better returns than his original project 😂 www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/money-for-nothing-the-story-of-the-biggest-counterfeiter-in-us-history-11942377
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tab1
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by tab1 on Feb 22, 2021 14:13:52 GMT 1, Anyone know where the printing plates for the di faced tenners are B has them, Laz or PC? Would they be considered original Banksy’s?
Some one sold a plate on here not too long ago?
Anyone know where the printing plates for the di faced tenners are B has them, Laz or PC? Would they be considered original Banksy’s? Some one sold a plate on here not too long ago?
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acaipride
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Banksy £10 • Di-Faced Tenner, by acaipride on Mar 10, 2021 15:19:44 GMT 1, I think the letters from Laz come not just with his signature, but also a thumbprint no? That thumbprint is in gold I think, which makes photocopied letters very obvious. Scammers have done that on ebay, but they're simply taking advantage of people who lack knowledge in this area.
You should read up on how easy it is to fake a thumbprint, or just call Apple tech support and ask them.
I think the letters from Laz come not just with his signature, but also a thumbprint no? That thumbprint is in gold I think, which makes photocopied letters very obvious. Scammers have done that on ebay, but they're simply taking advantage of people who lack knowledge in this area. You should read up on how easy it is to fake a thumbprint, or just call Apple tech support and ask them.
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