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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Harveyn on Mar 6, 2019 15:47:59 GMT 1, i say it doesnt hammer over 200k if anyone wants to make a small friendly wager...
I would have thought given the recent purchase price and the fact its a sculpture from an edition that a hammer at ยฃ150k+ would be a strong result.
I would love the piece in my collection for sure.
i say it doesnt hammer over 200k if anyone wants to make a small friendly wager...
I would have thought given the recent purchase price and the fact its a sculpture from an edition that a hammer at ยฃ150k+ would be a strong result.
I would love the piece in my collection for sure.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by aumi on Mar 6, 2019 16:01:12 GMT 1, I think it will be sold within the estimate. It is a great piece as it is perfectly representing the walled off. However, there might be a lot of people hesitating to hang a piece like this in their home.
I think it will be sold within the estimate. It is a great piece as it is perfectly representing the walled off. However, there might be a lot of people hesitating to hang a piece like this in their home.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 16:15:51 GMT 1, easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style.
easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 16:16:23 GMT 1, Apprecaite the enthusiasm for this piece but your comparing originals on card that can be hung on the wall against a carboard box with stencils on the sides.ย Apples and oranges perhaps?
The religious nature of the work will also go against it as far asย a lot ofย people are concerned.ย You try convincing your other half that aย the Son of God on a massive grappling hook is what's going on the lounge wall...ย The subject matter of QV and CWSB isn't to most people's taste for interior decorating purposes and does hold the values back.
I suspect there will be at least two people who want this so it should do well.ย However, I am not expecting this to reach the heady hights that some people on here are predicting.ย
It will be very interesting to see what level it reaches in any event.
Respect your points however, serious art collectors - especially when it comes to art investments - I do not believe care if the stencils are on a box or canvas as regularly items bought at these kinds of numbers remain in storage for investment purposes. The subject matter I believe helps this piece as it's a conceptual play which is strong. I'm also certain conversations with your other half and interior decoration do not come into the picture here when a serious collector is dropping over 100k on art. Plenty of Koons, Haring etc sculptures are very weird for the home but sell for crazy money. I've decided i'm going to bid as a couple of friends have pooled in with me but I'm not hopeful as our ceiling is not that high. I know other serious collectors who plan to goto this auction so it could turn into a shark tank. Time will tell in just a few hours!
Interesting.
Looking forward to the auction
There is a live feed I hear
Good luck !
Apprecaite the enthusiasm for this piece but your comparing originals on card that can be hung on the wall against a carboard box with stencils on the sides.ย Apples and oranges perhaps?
The religious nature of the work will also go against it as far asย a lot ofย people are concerned.ย You try convincing your other half that aย the Son of God on a massive grappling hook is what's going on the lounge wall...ย The subject matter of QV and CWSB isn't to most people's taste for interior decorating purposes and does hold the values back.
I suspect there will be at least two people who want this so it should do well.ย However, I am not expecting this to reach the heady hights that some people on here are predicting.ย
It will be very interesting to see what level it reaches in any event.
Respect your points however, serious art collectors - especially when it comes to art investments - I do not believe care if the stencils are on a box or canvas as regularly items bought at these kinds of numbers remain in storage for investment purposes. The subject matter I believe helps this piece as it's a conceptual play which is strong. I'm also certain conversations with your other half and interior decoration do not come into the picture here when a serious collector is dropping over 100k on art. Plenty of Koons, Haring etc sculptures are very weird for the home but sell for crazy money. I've decided i'm going to bid as a couple of friends have pooled in with me but I'm not hopeful as our ceiling is not that high. I know other serious collectors who plan to goto this auction so it could turn into a shark tank. Time will tell in just a few hours! Interesting. Looking forward to the auction There is a live feed I hear Good luck !
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 16:22:10 GMT 1, easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style.
Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail.
imgur.com/mfGL6Ba
easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style. Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail. imgur.com/mfGL6Ba
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by sl1973 on Mar 6, 2019 16:26:01 GMT 1, Will this be on youtube or anything to watch later,would love to watch this The auction will stream live here:
www.bonhams.com/auctions/25213/live/
Maybe someone will post to YT if it gets exciting with bidding for the Banksy piece.
The guesstimates above really divide everyone here, super curious to see where this lands!
I'm going with 220k GBP.
Will this be on youtube or anything to watch later,would love to watch this The auction will stream live here: www.bonhams.com/auctions/25213/live/Maybe someone will post to YT if it gets exciting with bidding for the Banksy piece. The guesstimates above really divide everyone here, super curious to see where this lands! I'm going with 220k GBP.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 16:33:23 GMT 1, easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style. Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail. i saw this piece from real at the WOH and it was the one i liked the most. Besides the work done to create it there is really a deep meaning using the grappling hook (crucifix ) to get over the wall meaning religion as a weapon to save us and be open minded instead locking yourself (wall)to religion ideology and war.
easily over 200k and probably over 300k. it is the only signed edition (only 25)available for purchase from the walled off hotel, and probably the best sculpture and very strong meaning. This work fully represent Banksy's style. Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail. i saw this piece from real at the WOH and it was the one i liked the most. Besides the work done to create it there is really a deep meaning using the grappling hook (crucifix ) to get over the wall meaning religion as a weapon to save us and be open minded instead locking yourself (wall)to religion ideology and war.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Mar 6, 2019 17:29:40 GMT 1, Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish.
www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.html
Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.html
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 17:36:33 GMT 1, Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.html I'm not surprised it didn't sell. It's not even signed by Banksy. And doesn't seem to have any meaning behind it either. I can't see how they think it's worth 200k plus.
Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.htmlI'm not surprised it didn't sell. It's not even signed by Banksy. And doesn't seem to have any meaning behind it either. I can't see how they think it's worth 200k plus.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by lee3 on Mar 6, 2019 17:38:10 GMT 1, I think it's really important to keep seasonality in mind as this is traditionally warm up season although it's clearly changed the past handful of years into prime time. From my vantage point, after reviewing todays Sotheby's day sale over coffee, it was rather dreadful across the board. Far more bought in lots than expected from the likes of albers, oehlen and kippenberger all of whom were all featured prominently at the start. As the sale meanders along there are buyins from dumas, warhol, banksy and hirst although these were far from their best examples. I thought that gem of a Haring would fare even better as it pops on the wall. Taking all of that into account and keeping in mind that this is Bonhams and not Sotheby's, probably best to temper enthusiasm.
I think it's really important to keep seasonality in mind as this is traditionally warm up season although it's clearly changed the past handful of years into prime time. From my vantage point, after reviewing todays Sotheby's day sale over coffee, it was rather dreadful across the board. Far more bought in lots than expected from the likes of albers, oehlen and kippenberger all of whom were all featured prominently at the start. As the sale meanders along there are buyins from dumas, warhol, banksy and hirst although these were far from their best examples. I thought that gem of a Haring would fare even better as it pops on the wall. Taking all of that into account and keeping in mind that this is Bonhams and not Sotheby's, probably best to temper enthusiasm.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Fast Eddie on Mar 6, 2019 17:41:54 GMT 1, Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail. i saw this piece from real at the WOH and it was the one i liked the most. Besides the work done to create it there is really a deep meaning using the grappling hook (crucifix ) to get over the wall meaning religion as a weapon to save us and be open minded instead locking yourself (wall)to religion ideology and war. I think the general reading of the piece is that it is anti-religious. Viewers can obviously see what they wish, but Banksy's ethos does not seem aligned with that soteriological interpretation.
Truthfully i didnt really like it as the grappling hook on its own. Very different to me from anything else i have seen from Banksy. The box makes it for me. There is a lot of work gone into the hook. jesus is all sprayed up and need to see close up detail. i saw this piece from real at the WOH and it was the one i liked the most. Besides the work done to create it there is really a deep meaning using the grappling hook (crucifix ) to get over the wall meaning religion as a weapon to save us and be open minded instead locking yourself (wall)to religion ideology and war. I think the general reading of the piece is that it is anti-religious. Viewers can obviously see what they wish, but Banksy's ethos does not seem aligned with that soteriological interpretation.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Winter on Mar 6, 2019 18:26:46 GMT 1, Quite a lively looking auction - could do well
Quite a lively looking auction - could do well
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by sakesake on Mar 6, 2019 18:32:13 GMT 1, I had intel from Bonhams yesterday that the Grappling Hook has few interest. We'll see how it goes! My guess is 85 hammer
I had intel from Bonhams yesterday that the Grappling Hook has few interest. We'll see how it goes! My guess is 85 hammer
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Mar 6, 2019 18:39:58 GMT 1, Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.htmlI'm not surprised it didn't sell. It's not even signed by Banksy. And doesn't seem to have any meaning behind it either. I can't see how they think it's worth 200k plus. I might suggest its signed in stencil and is a homage to Andy Warhol in the repetition of an icon image on canvas. Warhol didn't sign all of his work.
Well if it's any indication of things to come the large Sid Vicious canvas at Sotheby's failed to find a buyer, with a reserve of less than ยฃ200k. Small edition of 3, I saw it the other week and it had some presence. Didn't appeal to me, as I've never really liked listened to the Sex Pistols. That being said it was a classic Banksy style. Anyone know what the bidding went up to? That being said I've seen one of these Sid Vicious canvases fail to sell before, might just be the image and I think the estimate was pretty bullish. www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2019/contemporary-art-day-auction-l19021/lot.258.htmlI'm not surprised it didn't sell. It's not even signed by Banksy. And doesn't seem to have any meaning behind it either. I can't see how they think it's worth 200k plus. I might suggest its signed in stencil and is a homage to Andy Warhol in the repetition of an icon image on canvas. Warhol didn't sign all of his work.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by lee3 on Mar 6, 2019 19:12:53 GMT 1, I think it's really important to keep seasonality in mind as this is traditionally warm up season although it's clearly changed the past handful of years into prime time. From my vantage point, after reviewing todays Sotheby's day sale over coffee, it was rather dreadful across the board. Far more bought in lots than expected from the likes of albers, oehlen and kippenberger all of whom were all featured prominently at the start. As the sale meanders along there are buyins from dumas, warhol, banksy and hirst although these were far from their best examples. I thought that gem of a Haring would fare even better as it pops on the wall. Taking all of that into account and keeping in mind that this is Bonhams and not Sotheby's, probably best to temper enthusiasm. How do you know when the auction house buy in? If it doesn't reflect a "lot sold" for price with premium listed underneath it, it didn't sell. Sometimes it can be confused with withdrawn lots by the seller if the house failed to recognize it properly but that's the exception as opposed to the norm. I'll give Bonhams credit as their sale is faring better than I expected.
I think it's really important to keep seasonality in mind as this is traditionally warm up season although it's clearly changed the past handful of years into prime time. From my vantage point, after reviewing todays Sotheby's day sale over coffee, it was rather dreadful across the board. Far more bought in lots than expected from the likes of albers, oehlen and kippenberger all of whom were all featured prominently at the start. As the sale meanders along there are buyins from dumas, warhol, banksy and hirst although these were far from their best examples. I thought that gem of a Haring would fare even better as it pops on the wall. Taking all of that into account and keeping in mind that this is Bonhams and not Sotheby's, probably best to temper enthusiasm. How do you know when the auction house buy in? If it doesn't reflect a "lot sold" for price with premium listed underneath it, it didn't sell. Sometimes it can be confused with withdrawn lots by the seller if the house failed to recognize it properly but that's the exception as opposed to the norm. I'll give Bonhams credit as their sale is faring better than I expected.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 6, 2019 19:20:55 GMT 1, Yes results look good, Grappling Hook up next
Yes results look good, Grappling Hook up next
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by aumi on Mar 6, 2019 19:23:49 GMT 1, I think it will be sold within the estimate. It is a great piece as it is perfectly representing the walled off. However, there might be a lot of people hesitating to hang a piece like this in their home. Not too wall friendly in the end like I said
I think it will be sold within the estimate. It is a great piece as it is perfectly representing the walled off. However, there might be a lot of people hesitating to hang a piece like this in their home. Not too wall friendly in the end like I said
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by barsukauk on Mar 6, 2019 19:23:51 GMT 1, will not make the reserved
will not make the reserved
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 6, 2019 19:24:59 GMT 1, will not make the reserved Unsold
will not make the reserved Unsold
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:24:59 GMT 1, This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all.
This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:26 GMT 1, only 68 k
only 68 k
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:25:39 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve
Did I mention I hate Bonhams
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve
Did I mention I hate Bonhams
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Eton Groover on Mar 6, 2019 19:26:12 GMT 1, Not typical of the artists genre Not the artists usual medium Religious imagery Itโs an edition not an original. I think the estimate is extremely bullish
Iโll give myself a pat on the back
Not typical of the artists genre Not the artists usual medium Religious imagery Itโs an edition not an original. I think the estimate is extremely bullish Iโll give myself a pat on the back
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Winter on Mar 6, 2019 19:26:34 GMT 1, Ok who said ยฃ300k?!!
Ok who said ยฃ300k?!!
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:27:03 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by The Italian One on Mar 6, 2019 19:27:55 GMT 1, aahahhahahahahahahah
me!!
i'll take commission as art consultant hahahahaha
aahahhahahahahahahah me!! i'll take commission as art consultant hahahahaha
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Mar 6, 2019 19:28:37 GMT 1, So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy
No shit LOL
So what do I win? I said it wouldn't hit reserve Did I mention I hate Bonhams seems like bonhams is the cheapest way to own a banksy No shit LOL
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Mar 6, 2019 19:31:20 GMT 1, This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all. Try catawiki next week
This is great. I think Iโll be able to get one after all. Try catawiki next week
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by 19818914 on Mar 6, 2019 19:33:35 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pawel on Mar 6, 2019 19:35:30 GMT 1, Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached?
This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more...
Completely honest question. If one were to purchase this edition privately. Is it fair for a purchase price of 68k without factoring the premium that Bonhams would have attached? This one didn't sell so obviously the seller wants more...
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