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-, by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 23:25:25 GMT 1, Someone who works in a chip shop isn't going to buy a stencil of a cod done by a bloke who works in a chip shop.
Bamby should realise that at least.
Someone who works in a chip shop isn't going to buy a stencil of a cod done by a bloke who works in a chip shop.
Bamby should realise that at least.
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-, by dreadnatty on Jan 15, 2015 0:37:02 GMT 1, Used to be an electronics store on east coast here in the states..
Used to be an electronics store on east coast here in the states..
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-, by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 13:26:10 GMT 1, Someone who works in a chip shop isn't going to buy a stencil of a cod done by a bloke who works in a chip shop. Bamby should realise that at least. Probably does, just ask her / him.
www.orientalistrugs.com/about.asp
(bottom left...sister site).
Someone who works in a chip shop isn't going to buy a stencil of a cod done by a bloke who works in a chip shop. Bamby should realise that at least. Probably does, just ask her / him. www.orientalistrugs.com/about.asp(bottom left...sister site).
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-, by duggyfresh on Jan 16, 2015 21:30:05 GMT 1, Some of these banksy prices are starting to get insulting on ebay. Unsigned toxic mary 8k who are these fools!!!
Some of these banksy prices are starting to get insulting on ebay. Unsigned toxic mary 8k who are these fools!!!
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-, by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 21:36:23 GMT 1, Some of these banksy prices are starting to get insulting on ebay. Unsigned toxic mary 8k who are these fools!!! Some serious hyping on ebay going on
Some of these banksy prices are starting to get insulting on ebay. Unsigned toxic mary 8k who are these fools!!! Some serious hyping on ebay going on
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Jan 17, 2015 22:46:10 GMT 1
-, by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 22:46:10 GMT 1, On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter shite and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers?
On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter shite and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers?
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-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 0:29:38 GMT 1, deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wanker?
LOL, always scared this is what my wife will say to me when I buy a print and tell her it was ยฃ30 ;-)
deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wanker?
LOL, always scared this is what my wife will say to me when I buy a print and tell her it was ยฃ30 ;-)
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-, by daveart on Jan 18, 2015 12:21:52 GMT 1, Sometimes I read threads last page to first ... Just for the strange effect of knowing where the conversation ended but wondering how it got there .. This thread was actually pretty entertAining on that front .
an aspect of Banksy street art was to trash the commercialism of all the public space adverts constantly hyping everything from soda to cars and everything in between. So we are now hyping the anti hype message .
By modern art standards for established artists I wouldn't say Banksy prints are all that hyped or expensive .. so if we let the ultimate outsider into the big boy insider club ... Hype away .
Sometimes I read threads last page to first ... Just for the strange effect of knowing where the conversation ended but wondering how it got there .. This thread was actually pretty entertAining on that front . an aspect of Banksy street art was to trash the commercialism of all the public space adverts constantly hyping everything from soda to cars and everything in between. So we are now hyping the anti hype message . By modern art standards for established artists I wouldn't say Banksy prints are all that hyped or expensive .. so if we let the ultimate outsider into the big boy insider club ... Hype away .
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-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 12:28:01 GMT 1, its all hype ......one day ill get myself away from this art shit !!!!
its all hype ......one day ill get myself away from this art shit !!!!
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-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 18:09:10 GMT 1, โขย Well, wether we like it or not, some people buy art with disposable income to make money, or to upgrade their addiction.
โขย Hype happens on this forum (Which is is probably .043% of the collecting population) but there are many places to research and find works you like, for sale or otherwise. Id say, take this place and the works you find here with a grain of salt and find the collectors here that you relate with, or would like to be like. Looking at you, Gorkie. Alot of graphic design prints on this forum are over priced, over hyped and have no longevity.
Sales threads should have a no comment rule, like expresso. I find that so rewarding that nobody can mess with it, hijack it, ruin it, call you a noob, etc. My first post here was a painting for sale, I apologize.
โขย You learn quickly that an ebay auction with an outlandish price and "or best offer" means nothing in relation to market pricing. Ebay Rule #1. Only look at bid amounts, never asking price amounts.
โขย All this being said, the ones I look up to in here and in expresso, I also follow on instagram as well and feel I have a great relationship going with them. It all links to a love for art, we help each other out, we make the world smaller, and we grow our collections, with a little bit of competition . Wether its buying to sell later and upgrade your works, or hoarding and keeping works in portfolios, to each their own. I dont judge, I just want to get work from the artists I love one way or another.
Basically, take this place with a grain of salt, and have fun collecting art in the real world. Theres nothing like the thrill of the hunt, and hanging the trophy.
โขย Well, wether we like it or not, some people buy art with disposable income to make money, or to upgrade their addiction. โขย Hype happens on this forum (Which is is probably .043% of the collecting population) but there are many places to research and find works you like, for sale or otherwise. Id say, take this place and the works you find here with a grain of salt and find the collectors here that you relate with, or would like to be like. Looking at you, Gorkie. Alot of graphic design prints on this forum are over priced, over hyped and have no longevity. Sales threads should have a no comment rule, like expresso. I find that so rewarding that nobody can mess with it, hijack it, ruin it, call you a noob, etc. My first post here was a painting for sale, I apologize. โขย You learn quickly that an ebay auction with an outlandish price and "or best offer" means nothing in relation to market pricing. Ebay Rule #1. Only look at bid amounts, never asking price amounts. โขย All this being said, the ones I look up to in here and in expresso, I also follow on instagram as well and feel I have a great relationship going with them. It all links to a love for art, we help each other out, we make the world smaller, and we grow our collections, with a little bit of competition . Wether its buying to sell later and upgrade your works, or hoarding and keeping works in portfolios, to each their own. I dont judge, I just want to get work from the artists I love one way or another. Basically, take this place with a grain of salt, and have fun collecting art in the real world. Theres nothing like the thrill of the hunt, and hanging the trophy.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 19:58:18 GMT 1, On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter s**te and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers? Surely too I hope the same wasn't said of Banksy's management as well and the art world in general when it comes to poncy artists who have to talk through their management rather than speak for themselves.
On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter s**te and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers? Surely too I hope the same wasn't said of Banksy's management as well and the art world in general when it comes to poncy artists who have to talk through their management rather than speak for themselves.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 20:00:54 GMT 1, On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter s**te and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers? There is a lot of art on the internet promoted as by Banksy when it is by other artist/s.
I always thought this was by Banksy because every reference to it said Banksy did it but it is done by Meek.
www.holytaco.com/25-coolest-banksy-graffiti/
On a similar note. Apparently Nuart Festival were recently contacted by Bambi's agents and threatened with being sued for libel for criticising her work on this forum. I do hope you didn't say that Bambi's art is utter s**te and that her management are deceitful, dishonest, untruthful, mendacious, false, deceiving, dissembling, disingenuous, two-faced, duplicitous, double-dealing, cheating, underhand, guileful, scheming, calculating, conniving, designing, hypocritical, perfidious, treacherous, Machiavellian, Janus-faced, lying wankers? There is a lot of art on the internet promoted as by Banksy when it is by other artist/s.
I always thought this was by Banksy because every reference to it said Banksy did it but it is done by Meek.
www.holytaco.com/25-coolest-banksy-graffiti/
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Jan 18, 2015 20:32:02 GMT 1
-, by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 20:32:02 GMT 1, How Bambi, the female Banksy, became the new star of street art
From Kanye West to Brad Pitt, the A list are queuing to buy work by the Londoner who's determined to stay anonymous www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/aug/16/bambi-female-banksy-new-street-art-star-kanye-west
""She told a local paper last year that she was in her 30s (although this weekend her gallery suggested she may be older)
But dealer and gallery owner Paul Jones, who has represented street artists for 30 years, suspects the last juices have been wrung from an art movement that started in America, before coming to Britain in 2000, where it was re-invented as a print buyers' market.
"Nowadays young people buy a piece of so-called urban art instead of going to Conran to get a fruit bowl,"
The comments are always interesting to read.
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She used to come into our shop, bringing in a page ripped out of a magazine of some iconic figure for mass consumption or a random chav prime for a narrative exploit. I'd do the artwork in photohsop and illustrator, basic tracing and photo manipulation, in order to produce something for stenciling.
I eventually told her I wouldn't do anymore, as an artist myself, I found it inauthentic, terrible art - if you can even call it that - but most of all, if you are going to go down that route atleast do your own basic artwork.
Fair play to her though, she saw her niche and it clearly shows marketing, exposure and a bulls**t back story works far better than any talent.
Just look at how many ppl will start Robin Williams art pieces to see how celebrity and kitsch is a powerful combination."""
I don't know if the comment above is true as to if it was Bambi or another street artist, but these type of photo stencil images done by street artists are very boring and show lack of artistic skill. It's what anyone can do by paying a company to make the stencils for them.
I have no sympathy either for people whether celebrities or not who only promote themselves. Expect people to say they are wonderful and can't be bothered to post on forums or their twitbook accounts etc and say that they like other street or artists because they are only interested in promoting themselves in some form of what looks like ego.
How Bambi, the female Banksy, became the new star of street art
From Kanye West to Brad Pitt, the A list are queuing to buy work by the Londoner who's determined to stay anonymous www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/aug/16/bambi-female-banksy-new-street-art-star-kanye-west
""She told a local paper last year that she was in her 30s (although this weekend her gallery suggested she may be older)
But dealer and gallery owner Paul Jones, who has represented street artists for 30 years, suspects the last juices have been wrung from an art movement that started in America, before coming to Britain in 2000, where it was re-invented as a print buyers' market.
"Nowadays young people buy a piece of so-called urban art instead of going to Conran to get a fruit bowl,"
The comments are always interesting to read.
quote"" chillz000 cheekychops123 16 Aug 2014 22:40
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She used to come into our shop, bringing in a page ripped out of a magazine of some iconic figure for mass consumption or a random chav prime for a narrative exploit. I'd do the artwork in photohsop and illustrator, basic tracing and photo manipulation, in order to produce something for stenciling.
I eventually told her I wouldn't do anymore, as an artist myself, I found it inauthentic, terrible art - if you can even call it that - but most of all, if you are going to go down that route atleast do your own basic artwork.
Fair play to her though, she saw her niche and it clearly shows marketing, exposure and a bulls**t back story works far better than any talent.
Just look at how many ppl will start Robin Williams art pieces to see how celebrity and kitsch is a powerful combination."""
I don't know if the comment above is true as to if it was Bambi or another street artist, but these type of photo stencil images done by street artists are very boring and show lack of artistic skill. It's what anyone can do by paying a company to make the stencils for them.
I have no sympathy either for people whether celebrities or not who only promote themselves. Expect people to say they are wonderful and can't be bothered to post on forums or their twitbook accounts etc and say that they like other street or artists because they are only interested in promoting themselves in some form of what looks like ego.
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Jan 22, 2015 3:00:06 GMT 1
-, by met on Jan 22, 2015 3:00:06 GMT 1, It's sad that people need to go / feel forced into leaving. However people need to remember this is an internet forum. Simply ignore those who are aggressive, trolling etc. Everyone's opinion is valid. If you don't agree with it, that doesn't matter, have an adult discussion about it. If you can't do that then simply don't respond. Every individual is responsible for their own actions. What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice?
It's sad that people need to go / feel forced into leaving. However people need to remember this is an internet forum. Simply ignore those who are aggressive, trolling etc. Everyone's opinion is valid. If you don't agree with it, that doesn't matter, have an adult discussion about it. If you can't do that then simply don't respond. Every individual is responsible for their own actions. What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice?
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-, by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:19:41 GMT 1, Remember that time this forum unanimously agreed that Bambi is terrible pseudo-intellectual hipster garbage art?
I'm pretty sure we all remember that, as it happens almost bi-weekly, but I just wanted to make sure it was cemented on here for all to see.
Remember that time this forum unanimously agreed that Bambi is terrible pseudo-intellectual hipster garbage art?
I'm pretty sure we all remember that, as it happens almost bi-weekly, but I just wanted to make sure it was cemented on here for all to see.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 3:22:19 GMT 1, And people leaving this forum is a shame; there seems to have been an influx of bad characters over the past seven months that ran off a few greats. Really unfortunate.
As for the money stuff, it's fine to hint that a price is too high; just do it via PM or at least in a friendly, non-accusational way. Most people on here care about the value of their prints, that's why you don't see people selling Banksys for anything less than top dollar.
Let's all just have some f**kin' fun like we used to, and still do to some extent.
And people leaving this forum is a shame; there seems to have been an influx of bad characters over the past seven months that ran off a few greats. Really unfortunate.
As for the money stuff, it's fine to hint that a price is too high; just do it via PM or at least in a friendly, non-accusational way. Most people on here care about the value of their prints, that's why you don't see people selling Banksys for anything less than top dollar.
Let's all just have some f**kin' fun like we used to, and still do to some extent.
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-, by Dungle on Jan 22, 2015 7:59:36 GMT 1, It's sad that people need to go / feel forced into leaving. However people need to remember this is an internet forum. Simply ignore those who are aggressive, trolling etc. Everyone's opinion is valid. If you don't agree with it, that doesn't matter, have an adult discussion about it. If you can't do that then simply don't respond. Every individual is responsible for their own actions. What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice?
Freedom of speech and living in a developed society says they are entitled to it whether it's right or wrong, whether you and I agree with it or not.
It's sad that people need to go / feel forced into leaving. However people need to remember this is an internet forum. Simply ignore those who are aggressive, trolling etc. Everyone's opinion is valid. If you don't agree with it, that doesn't matter, have an adult discussion about it. If you can't do that then simply don't respond. Every individual is responsible for their own actions. What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice? Freedom of speech and living in a developed society says they are entitled to it whether it's right or wrong, whether you and I agree with it or not.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 12:43:11 GMT 1, i log in, see people tying to flog stuff like CYWs for 5 figures, see new members not even bothering to take part in discussions or introduce themsleves, just desperate to get a banksy , i cant even be bothered to take the piss anymore & just leaves me feeling negative- and its not good to constantly post negativity all the time.
i log in, see people tying to flog stuff like CYWs for 5 figures, see new members not even bothering to take part in discussions or introduce themsleves, just desperate to get a banksy , i cant even be bothered to take the piss anymore & just leaves me feeling negative- and its not good to constantly post negativity all the time.
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-, by t3c on Jan 22, 2015 12:56:19 GMT 1, I was thinking last night if you took all his commissions, print editions & canvases etc would the total amount that they are worth now on the secondary market come to more than a billion quid or not. It can't be far off can it?
I was thinking last night if you took all his commissions, print editions & canvases etc would the total amount that they are worth now on the secondary market come to more than a billion quid or not. It can't be far off can it?
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-, by met on Jan 23, 2015 1:20:19 GMT 1, What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice? Freedom of speech and living in a developed society says they are entitled to it whether it's right or wrong, whether you and I agree with it or not. Don't know if it was deliberate or accidental, but you're mixing up two different things.
No one is arguing that people aren't entitled to their opinions.
What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid.
What about opinions based on ignorance or prejudice? Freedom of speech and living in a developed society says they are entitled to it whether it's right or wrong, whether you and I agree with it or not. Don't know if it was deliberate or accidental, but you're mixing up two different things. No one is arguing that people aren't entitled to their opinions. What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 1:38:00 GMT 1, hasn't CYW been five figures for the past two years or so? not sure it's fair to be mad at people for selling a CYW for over 10k, but i get how it must seem if you were there at release
hasn't CYW been five figures for the past two years or so? not sure it's fair to be mad at people for selling a CYW for over 10k, but i get how it must seem if you were there at release
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-, by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 2:01:41 GMT 1, no problem with anyone selling anything really, and good luck to them if they can get that kinda money - but CYW was the final hurrah - if you witnessed the debacle and the greed that night, it was pretty appaling. I went , I saw , I trundled off home- it was starting to snow. Has it really come to this I was thinking, its all so joyless, so facile. My route home passed the original CYW funnily enough.
no problem with anyone selling anything really, and good luck to them if they can get that kinda money - but CYW was the final hurrah - if you witnessed the debacle and the greed that night, it was pretty appaling. I went , I saw , I trundled off home- it was starting to snow. Has it really come to this I was thinking, its all so joyless, so facile. My route home passed the original CYW funnily enough.
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-, by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 3:22:07 GMT 1, makes perfect sense given that
makes perfect sense given that
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-, by andyroo0312 on Jan 23, 2015 3:42:45 GMT 1, What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid. I think you may find a lot of people that would disagree with that statement. Opinions are just that. What one person thinks, feels, or intuits is correct. It may come from a whole slew of experiences, cultural boundaries or just pop into someone's head. Factual statements are not just "proven" but based upon understandings that are deeper than just opinion. All opinions are created equal, but some are more equal than others. We should respect the right for other's to hold differing opinions. Real dialogue can begin there. At the end of the day i believe if you say the grass is blue you have a right to that opinion false or not.We need to let people share opinions that may be wrong, and everyone does not have to be right. Thru differing opinions regardless how bizarre they maybe have a place in our growth as human beings...
What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid. I think you may find a lot of people that would disagree with that statement. Opinions are just that. What one person thinks, feels, or intuits is correct. It may come from a whole slew of experiences, cultural boundaries or just pop into someone's head. Factual statements are not just "proven" but based upon understandings that are deeper than just opinion. All opinions are created equal, but some are more equal than others. We should respect the right for other's to hold differing opinions. Real dialogue can begin there. At the end of the day i believe if you say the grass is blue you have a right to that opinion false or not.We need to let people share opinions that may be wrong, and everyone does not have to be right. Thru differing opinions regardless how bizarre they maybe have a place in our growth as human beings...
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-, by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 4:10:29 GMT 1, Banksy wins again
Banksy wins again
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-, by met on Jan 23, 2015 18:33:44 GMT 1, What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid. I think you may find a lot of people that would disagree with that statement. Opinions are just that. What one person thinks, feels, or intuits is correct. It may come from a whole slew of experiences, cultural boundaries or just pop into someone's head. Factual statements are not just "proven" but based upon understandings that are deeper than just opinion. All opinions are created equal, but some are more equal than others. We should respect the right for other's to hold differing opinions. Real dialogue can begin there. At the end of the day i believe if you say the grass is blue you have a right to that opinion false or not.We need to let people share opinions that may be wrong, and everyone does not have to be right. Thru differing opinions regardless how bizarre they maybe have a place in our growth as human beings...
I must admit failing to understand much of this post. Maybe we're having parallel discussions about separate issues. However, even if we're in true disagreement, that's fine also.
My point was that not all opinions are valid. For example, an opinion based on a factual inaccuracy: "I believe you'll be able to ice skate on the lake this summer (because water freezes at 25ยฐC, and the temperature outside won't get hotter than that)."
This position is distinct from everyone's right to their own opinion, and to have different opinions. Neither of which is in dispute.
People can be as misinformed or as ignorant as they wish. I respect their right to be misinformed, and also their separate right to share their misinformed views โ even if prioritisation dictates I don't always have time to listen.
What I challenged was your assertion that all opinions are valid. This is simply untrue. Opinions based on faulty reasoning or incorrect information are, by definition, invalid. I think you may find a lot of people that would disagree with that statement. Opinions are just that. What one person thinks, feels, or intuits is correct. It may come from a whole slew of experiences, cultural boundaries or just pop into someone's head. Factual statements are not just "proven" but based upon understandings that are deeper than just opinion. All opinions are created equal, but some are more equal than others. We should respect the right for other's to hold differing opinions. Real dialogue can begin there. At the end of the day i believe if you say the grass is blue you have a right to that opinion false or not.We need to let people share opinions that may be wrong, and everyone does not have to be right. Thru differing opinions regardless how bizarre they maybe have a place in our growth as human beings... I must admit failing to understand much of this post. Maybe we're having parallel discussions about separate issues. However, even if we're in true disagreement, that's fine also. My point was that not all opinions are valid. For example, an opinion based on a factual inaccuracy: "I believe you'll be able to ice skate on the lake this summer (because water freezes at 25ยฐC, and the temperature outside won't get hotter than that)."This position is distinct from everyone's right to their own opinion, and to have different opinions. Neither of which is in dispute. People can be as misinformed or as ignorant as they wish. I respect their right to be misinformed, and also their separate right to share their misinformed views โ even if prioritisation dictates I don't always have time to listen.
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