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..................................., by Sweetcorn on Feb 4, 2015 20:41:31 GMT 1, ... you receive a formal complaint ... I understand that ... it does not mean that you have to uphold it ... If it against the rules of proboards/the host then let us know. PS: I reached out to the mods when I was recently publically abused and some would say slanderous comments made in a post on this forum ... I did not receive a single relpy from any of the mods ... ... disappointed ...
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... you receive a formal complaint ... I understand that ... it does not mean that you have to uphold it ... If it against the rules of proboards/the host then let us know. PS: I reached out to the mods when I was recently publically abused and some would say slanderous comments made in a post on this forum ... I did not receive a single relpy from any of the mods ... ... disappointed ...
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 20:41:37 GMT 1, If you were the assistant moderator - which of the following steps would you have taken ? 1. Read the complaint and take down the images immediately like I did ? 2. Read the complaint and contact the individual who filed the complaint to see how offended they truly are ? 3. Read the complaint and wait for other Moderators to chime in before you or they act right away ? I am human and have second thoughts about my decision. Thanks - Jon / Wear
Probably number 3
I wouldnt have done number 1.
Shocked that anyone would complain
If you were the assistant moderator - which of the following steps would you have taken ? 1. Read the complaint and take down the images immediately like I did ? 2. Read the complaint and contact the individual who filed the complaint to see how offended they truly are ? 3. Read the complaint and wait for other Moderators to chime in before you or they act right away ? I am human and have second thoughts about my decision. Thanks - Jon / Wear Probably number 3 I wouldnt have done number 1. Shocked that anyone would complain |
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..................................., by dreadnatty on Feb 4, 2015 20:42:19 GMT 1, I dont see how ONE complaint about something can have a post removed? Shouldnt it require several complaints for the mods/Silky to have the discusssion about removal? Just seems silly for just one person.
I dont see how ONE complaint about something can have a post removed? Shouldnt it require several complaints for the mods/Silky to have the discusssion about removal? Just seems silly for just one person.
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..................................., by Sweetcorn on Feb 4, 2015 20:43:04 GMT 1,
post em again innit
dare you !
Done Bye bye.....probably.
bet you any money the complainant wopnt even block you
post em again innit
dare you !
Done Bye bye.....probably.
bet you any money the complainant wopnt even block you
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 20:44:33 GMT 1, LOL, way to go. +1
Fight the Man, well at least an assistant 
LOL, way to go. +1 Fight the Man, well at least an assistant |
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 21:02:40 GMT 1, censoring anything just makes people want to see it that much more
censoring anything just makes people want to see it that much more
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..................................., by wh282 on Feb 4, 2015 21:17:13 GMT 1, Thanks Lonelyfarmer. A thread of real substance.
Thanks Lonelyfarmer. A thread of real substance.
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..................................., by Hubble Bubble on Feb 4, 2015 21:34:11 GMT 1, My only gripe is that I stumbled on the thread without knowing what I was going to see - I never really look at the side panels. I don't object to seeing the images and defend LF's right to post. However, I made a pact with myself a long time ago that I simply wouldn't look at any of these images or beheadings and the like. That's what these people wantโฆ for us to look at them, talk about themโฆ soโฆ I don't want to see these images for that reason and would have appreciated a thread title.
My only gripe is that I stumbled on the thread without knowing what I was going to see - I never really look at the side panels. I don't object to seeing the images and defend LF's right to post. However, I made a pact with myself a long time ago that I simply wouldn't look at any of these images or beheadings and the like. That's what these people wantโฆ for us to look at them, talk about themโฆ soโฆ I don't want to see these images for that reason and would have appreciated a thread title.
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..................................., by dashboll on Feb 4, 2015 21:52:48 GMT 1, My only gripe is that I stumbled on the thread without knowing what I was going to see - I never really look at the side panels. I don't object to seeing the images and defend LF's right to post. However, I made a pact with myself a long time ago that I simply wouldn't look at any of these images or beheadings and the like. That's what these people wantโฆ for us to look at them, talk about themโฆ soโฆ I don't want to see these images for that reason and would have appreciated a thread title.
I agree with Hubble on this, I actually was the person that pm'd lonelyfarmer but I didn't raise a complaint with a mod. My main point was that ISIL want the videos to be distributed as widespread as possible, that's exactly how they are managing to recruit and therefore like Hubble refuse to watch any of the videos or see any of the pictures. To be fair, if there was a title I would have never looked, but usually when people dot out the titles it's because something has been sold and I was wondering what it was.
Hope this helps the "other side of the coin" view, but I would like to reiterate I didn't complain, only pm'd lonelyfarmer
My only gripe is that I stumbled on the thread without knowing what I was going to see - I never really look at the side panels. I don't object to seeing the images and defend LF's right to post. However, I made a pact with myself a long time ago that I simply wouldn't look at any of these images or beheadings and the like. That's what these people wantโฆ for us to look at them, talk about themโฆ soโฆ I don't want to see these images for that reason and would have appreciated a thread title. I agree with Hubble on this, I actually was the person that pm'd lonelyfarmer but I didn't raise a complaint with a mod. My main point was that ISIL want the videos to be distributed as widespread as possible, that's exactly how they are managing to recruit and therefore like Hubble refuse to watch any of the videos or see any of the pictures. To be fair, if there was a title I would have never looked, but usually when people dot out the titles it's because something has been sold and I was wondering what it was. Hope this helps the "other side of the coin" view, but I would like to reiterate I didn't complain, only pm'd lonelyfarmer |
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..................................., by Sweetcorn on Feb 4, 2015 22:11:51 GMT 1, It was probably Otto because it was his cousins husband or something
It was probably Otto because it was his cousins husband or something
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 8:13:30 GMT 1, The title of the video - "Healing the Believers Chests" - was a big FAIL from ISIS/EI
Because if you Google the name of the video, Healing the Believers Chests", in Google Images, and scroll down a bit you get this !! Naked guys playing grass hockey.... and sado-maso girls with whips.
The title of the video - "Healing the Believers Chests" - was a big FAIL from ISIS/EI Because if you Google the name of the video, Healing the Believers Chests", in Google Images, and scroll down a bit you get this !! Naked guys playing grass hockey.... and sado-maso girls with whips. |
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..................................., by darwin on Feb 5, 2015 9:00:57 GMT 1, How professionally that video was filmed and edited made that even more disturbing to watch. Insanity.
Nowadays any old sod with a crack of After Effects can do that with a bit of practice, to be perfectly honest.
Funny, the Nazi party had a similar penchance for media manipulation and propaganda (Leni Reifenstahl - Triumph Of The Will). We all know how that worked out for them.
Don't make it easier for these numbnuts by becoming part of the process.
How professionally that video was filmed and edited made that even more disturbing to watch. Insanity. Nowadays any old sod with a crack of After Effects can do that with a bit of practice, to be perfectly honest. Funny, the Nazi party had a similar penchance for media manipulation and propaganda (Leni Reifenstahl - Triumph Of The Will). We all know how that worked out for them. Don't make it easier for these numbnuts by becoming part of the process. |
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..................................., by naughtyshorty on Feb 5, 2015 10:42:11 GMT 1, Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them....
And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterfuck of a forum!
Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them....
And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterfuck of a forum!
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 10:49:33 GMT 1, Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum!
What heading would you like?.
Not everything in the world is about pretty pictures in shiny box frames.
Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum! It is posted in the Chat section. What heading would you like?. Not everything in the world is about pretty pictures in shiny box frames. |
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..................................., by eschiff on Feb 5, 2015 10:49:37 GMT 1, www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/04/isis-videos-complict-terrorism-death-hostage-killers
Thousands have been killed, off camera, in equally brutal ways, but these films allow Isis to revel in the toe-curling revulsion they inevitably provoke...But such videos turn the internet into a grisly public square where we all gather and watch in horror, then disband, unwittingly participating in a macabre cycle of action and reaction.
LonelyFarmer not sure why the aggressive attitude...people are espousing their opinions and you come with glib comments which seem to undermine the whole reason you posted these pictures. Like it's your job to inform people on an art forum...and why would that be? Because you right clicked and saved a couple pictures? Could you teach us about some other things as well? That'd be swell.
You do know there are political forums right? There are actually multiple forums for a variety of subjects, not just this one with its pretty pictures.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/feb/04/isis-videos-complict-terrorism-death-hostage-killersThousands have been killed, off camera, in equally brutal ways, but these films allow Isis to revel in the toe-curling revulsion they inevitably provoke...But such videos turn the internet into a grisly public square where we all gather and watch in horror, then disband, unwittingly participating in a macabre cycle of action and reaction. LonelyFarmer not sure why the aggressive attitude...people are espousing their opinions and you come with glib comments which seem to undermine the whole reason you posted these pictures. Like it's your job to inform people on an art forum...and why would that be? Because you right clicked and saved a couple pictures? Could you teach us about some other things as well? That'd be swell. You do know there are political forums right? There are actually multiple forums for a variety of subjects, not just this one with its pretty pictures.
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 11:00:08 GMT 1, i have not seen the images and will make no effort to track them down. you dont have to eat a dog s**t to know its going to taste bad
on a purely functional/ non emotional basis, getting the majors to repeatedly market your propaganda free is a mastersrtoke by IS.the apex of right wing , commercially adept media like FOX pushing this stuff is ironic in the extreme
this begs the question - what is next ? what will be crafted to garner more views, to seduce more people?
this brings about the question of censorship - but as we all know, even of it isnt viewable on your local news source, it will be out there with a bit of googling
AQ couldnt really top 911 in terms of box office, IS are doing this on a budget, on a weekly basis
i have not seen the images and will make no effort to track them down. you dont have to eat a dog s**t to know its going to taste bad
on a purely functional/ non emotional basis, getting the majors to repeatedly market your propaganda free is a mastersrtoke by IS.the apex of right wing , commercially adept media like FOX pushing this stuff is ironic in the extreme
this begs the question - what is next ? what will be crafted to garner more views, to seduce more people?
this brings about the question of censorship - but as we all know, even of it isnt viewable on your local news source, it will be out there with a bit of googling
AQ couldnt really top 911 in terms of box office, IS are doing this on a budget, on a weekly basis
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 11:02:30 GMT 1, Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum!
I agree about the lack of warning or title. Don't understand why it was done that way. Happy for there to be serious grown up conversations on here beyond art if that's what people want but that's not why I come on and I'm not sure why the original poster felt the need to hide the topic.
I often browse the forum with my kids around and would prefer no nasty surprises.
Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum! I agree about the lack of warning or title. Don't understand why it was done that way. Happy for there to be serious grown up conversations on here beyond art if that's what people want but that's not why I come on and I'm not sure why the original poster felt the need to hide the topic. I often browse the forum with my kids around and would prefer no nasty surprises. |
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 11:59:26 GMT 1, Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum!
Can you imagine going to a website dedicated for kids and getting "gore images" from Google Ads, paid by the American and targeting IPs per country. My 5 year old daughters asked, "dad why are they pulling this man on the floor" ?
I was so fed up getting these nasty Google Ads that I decided to screenshot all the Google Ads advertisements and wrote to many local and international newspapers as well as Google. No reply, no interest whatsoever, strange, because the all idea of having Google Ads showing propaganda ads with weapons and dead bodies in order to promote hate speech is an interesting story... but as you said Americans with FOX get this on daily basis.
All these ads were made by AMISOM and aimed to promote hate in the region... check this ads showing a muslim boy with caption "what is he learning ?" (understating muslims don't go to school). There is one ads showing guys on the floor with caption "radicalisation in Kenya" (although he is a police intervention).
This said, I agree it is an art forum, no need to share these. And if you - LonelyFarmer - felt there is a need to share them so that we all learn about it, then sorry mate, but there are lot of things you are not aware (and shall presumably never hear about) and don't think letting everybody share their horror story/gore images is a good idea.
Personally I'm pretty annoyed that the images were posted with no warning. This is an art forum, I don't want to come on here and accidentally stumble on mind scarring depraved acts by absolute nutcases. People need to post responsibly- yes the internet has lots of things on it if I chose to go and search for them, but clicking on a thread with no warning is not a choice to see something I do not want to see. Amongst other things, imagine flicking the thread with you kids around and them having to explain all that too them.... And let's go easy on wear. It's a thankless task moderating this clusterf**k of a forum! @sceptic - Speaking about propaganda and Internet, let me stress that indeed every damn government/country is doing is propaganda. Seeing gore images relayed on popular media such as GOOGLE to fight terrorism is very common practice here in Kenya. Can you imagine going to a website dedicated for kids and getting "gore images" from Google Ads, paid by the American and targeting IPs per country. My 5 year old daughters asked, "dad why are they pulling this man on the floor" ? I was so fed up getting these nasty Google Ads that I decided to screenshot all the Google Ads advertisements and wrote to many local and international newspapers as well as Google. No reply, no interest whatsoever, strange, because the all idea of having Google Ads showing propaganda ads with weapons and dead bodies in order to promote hate speech is an interesting story... but as you said Americans with FOX get this on daily basis. All these ads were made by AMISOM and aimed to promote hate in the region... check this ads showing a muslim boy with caption "what is he learning ?" (understating muslims don't go to school). There is one ads showing guys on the floor with caption "radicalisation in Kenya" (although he is a police intervention). This said, I agree it is an art forum, no need to share these. And if you - LonelyFarmer - felt there is a need to share them so that we all learn about it, then sorry mate, but there are lot of things you are not aware (and shall presumably never hear about) and don't think letting everybody share their horror story/gore images is a good idea. |
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..................................., by dashboll on Feb 5, 2015 11:59:54 GMT 1, is there any chance the title can be changed to something appropriate, even if that's "IS murdering scum" and remove the thumbnail?
is there any chance the title can be changed to something appropriate, even if that's "IS murdering scum" and remove the thumbnail?
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..................................., by alexdb on Feb 5, 2015 16:05:16 GMT 1, to something appropriate? I believe it is the topic starter's own right to use whatever title he may use (as long as it is not discriminating etc).
This world is really getting crazy. In my opinion the topic starter opened a threat to express his thoughts about the current reality in the world. I certainly do not want to ignore the reality in this world we are living in.
to something appropriate? I believe it is the topic starter's own right to use whatever title he may use (as long as it is not discriminating etc).
This world is really getting crazy. In my opinion the topic starter opened a threat to express his thoughts about the current reality in the world. I certainly do not want to ignore the reality in this world we are living in.
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..................................., by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Feb 5, 2015 16:39:54 GMT 1, This thread should not be focused on censorship. Those that keep banging on about censorship should start their own thread.
We should all take time out to think about the murder victim and his family; and also the bastards that carried out this atrocity.
This thread should not be focused on censorship. Those that keep banging on about censorship should start their own thread.
We should all take time out to think about the murder victim and his family; and also the bastards that carried out this atrocity.
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..................................., by Deleted on Feb 6, 2015 11:55:10 GMT 1, General chat is just that.
It's up to the forum owner if they want to remove general chat and make this art only chat?
Was the complaint politically motivated?
The photos make us realise how evil and barbaric people can be.
This story was in the mainstream media and the photos and image simprinted in peoples minds, who are not offended but shocked at the barbarity and two faces of people who should not exist.
General chat is just that.
It's up to the forum owner if they want to remove general chat and make this art only chat?
Was the complaint politically motivated?
The photos make us realise how evil and barbaric people can be.
This story was in the mainstream media and the photos and image simprinted in peoples minds, who are not offended but shocked at the barbarity and two faces of people who should not exist.
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