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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 2:35:28 GMT 1, at Centre Pompidou in Paris (or MoMa, Tate Modern etc). Which artists would be included?
My guesses:
Keith Harring Basquiat Banksy Paul Insect Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey Conor Harrington (maybe? probably too early to tell, but I see his work bridging the gap between street art and fine art)
Whose work would you expect to be exhibited?
at Centre Pompidou in Paris (or MoMa, Tate Modern etc). Which artists would be included?
My guesses:
Keith Harring Basquiat Banksy Paul Insect Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey Conor Harrington (maybe? probably too early to tell, but I see his work bridging the gap between street art and fine art)
Whose work would you expect to be exhibited?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by astrobboy on Mar 2, 2015 3:08:31 GMT 1, Me, I'm going to be huge. Better start buying up now.
Me, I'm going to be huge. Better start buying up now.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:11:50 GMT 1, Me, I'm going to be huge. Better start buying up now. I'll take one of everything please
Me, I'm going to be huge. Better start buying up now. I'll take one of everything please
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by bgt5002 on Mar 2, 2015 3:11:55 GMT 1, No women, eh?
I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included.
No women, eh?
I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:16:14 GMT 1, No women, eh? I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included. I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included
No women, eh? I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included. I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Greekboy on Mar 2, 2015 3:19:09 GMT 1, KAWS, Faile and BAST
KAWS, Faile and BAST
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:29:50 GMT 1, Barbara Kruger maybe? more so for her influence?
Barbara Kruger maybe? more so for her influence?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by bgt5002 on Mar 2, 2015 3:32:10 GMT 1, Perhaps I'm biased as I live in Brooklyn, but I'd wager that her viewings/exhibiting, international presence, and popularity with celebs (which I know, I know-- but it shows her appeal...) is as high, if not higher than some of the others on the list. She's arguably a top 10 street artist, and by far the most prominent woman. That doesn't earn her a slot?
BTW-- I hope my rationale isn't condescending, as I think she's a phenomenal artist, woman or not. Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have a retrospective 50 years from now and think "hmm-- where the hell are all the women at?"
Also-- not a fan of KAWS, but I think he deserves to be on this list.
Perhaps I'm biased as I live in Brooklyn, but I'd wager that her viewings/exhibiting, international presence, and popularity with celebs (which I know, I know-- but it shows her appeal...) is as high, if not higher than some of the others on the list. She's arguably a top 10 street artist, and by far the most prominent woman. That doesn't earn her a slot?
BTW-- I hope my rationale isn't condescending, as I think she's a phenomenal artist, woman or not. Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have a retrospective 50 years from now and think "hmm-- where the hell are all the women at?"
Also-- not a fan of KAWS, but I think he deserves to be on this list.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by graffuturism on Mar 2, 2015 3:33:09 GMT 1, No women, eh? I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included. I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner.
No women, eh? I'm not adding Swoon for the sake of adding a woman. She deserves to be included. I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:44:56 GMT 1, Perhaps I'm biased as I live in Brooklyn, but I'd wager that her viewings/exhibiting, international presence, and popularity with celebs (which I know, I know-- but it shows her appeal...) is as high, if not higher than some of the others on the list. She's arguably a top 10 street artist, and by far the most prominent woman. That doesn't earn her a slot? BTW-- I hope my rationale isn't condescending, as I think she's a phenomenal artist, woman or not. Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have a retrospective 50 years from now and think "hmm-- where the hell are all the women at?" Also-- not a fan of KAWS, but I think he deserves to be on this list. Swoon definitely deserves to be included in the conversation. Personally, I just don't know if her work (while amazing, and some of my favorite) has transcended the streets and installations into being historically significant like the others. But I could be wrong.
as for another woman, I'd be tempted to add ENX to Cost and Revs, because she's a natural extension of their work, though she's only recently been going at it
Perhaps I'm biased as I live in Brooklyn, but I'd wager that her viewings/exhibiting, international presence, and popularity with celebs (which I know, I know-- but it shows her appeal...) is as high, if not higher than some of the others on the list. She's arguably a top 10 street artist, and by far the most prominent woman. That doesn't earn her a slot? BTW-- I hope my rationale isn't condescending, as I think she's a phenomenal artist, woman or not. Wouldn't it be a bit odd to have a retrospective 50 years from now and think "hmm-- where the hell are all the women at?" Also-- not a fan of KAWS, but I think he deserves to be on this list. Swoon definitely deserves to be included in the conversation. Personally, I just don't know if her work (while amazing, and some of my favorite) has transcended the streets and installations into being historically significant like the others. But I could be wrong. as for another woman, I'd be tempted to add ENX to Cost and Revs, because she's a natural extension of their work, though she's only recently been going at it
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:49:27 GMT 1, I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner. like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ?
I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the same notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner. like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 2, 2015 3:50:09 GMT 1,
Keith Harring He has his own era not sure he is a real peer of the current generation of painters 2000+
Basquiat Same with Harring a whole different generation. Banksy
Paul Insect Love Pauls work and he is a great artist just not sure he would make this type of list. Maybe on a second tier of artists that would be considered Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey
Conor Harrington Conor is the best but if you are looking for a retrospective Key figures to the progression would seem to be important. Conor is one of the best but might fall short when balancing the street to studio work. I think anyone that would be in some type of retrospective would be artists that were there at key points and had a role in shaping the overall movement. I also think they would have to have played in integral part in the street not just the studio. Studio work is after the fact when talking about this genre and real progression happened in the streets and in collectives in the street.
Barry Mcgee Espo Swoon Blu MSK JR - even though I am not a fan of his work he has his role.
I think there are many 2nd tier artists that you could make arguments for that might be considered better collected or even better artists than some but historically relevant takes more than being good. There is a level of being in the right place at the right time and pioneering something that opened the doors for so many other artists that we might also think deserve to be on a list like this.
Keith Harring He has his own era not sure he is a real peer of the current generation of painters 2000+
Basquiat Same with Harring a whole different generation. Banksy
Paul Insect Love Pauls work and he is a great artist just not sure he would make this type of list. Maybe on a second tier of artists that would be considered Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey
Conor Harrington Conor is the best but if you are looking for a retrospective Key figures to the progression would seem to be important. Conor is one of the best but might fall short when balancing the street to studio work. I think anyone that would be in some type of retrospective would be artists that were there at key points and had a role in shaping the overall movement. I also think they would have to have played in integral part in the street not just the studio. Studio work is after the fact when talking about this genre and real progression happened in the streets and in collectives in the street.
Barry Mcgee Espo Swoon Blu MSK JR - even though I am not a fan of his work he has his role.
I think there are many 2nd tier artists that you could make arguments for that might be considered better collected or even better artists than some but historically relevant takes more than being good. There is a level of being in the right place at the right time and pioneering something that opened the doors for so many other artists that we might also think deserve to be on a list like this.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 3:54:01 GMT 1, Keith Harring He has his own era not sure he is a real peer of the current generation of painters 2000+ Basquiat Same with Harring a whole different generation. Banksy Paul Insect Love Pauls work and he is a great artist just not sure he would make this type of list. Maybe on a second tier of artists that would be considered Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey Conor Harrington Conor is the best but if you are looking for a retrospective Key figures to the progression would seem to be important. Conor is one of the best but might fall short when balancing the street to studio work. I think anyone that would be in some type of retrospective would be artists that were there at key points and had a role in shaping the overall movement. I also think they would have to have played in integral part in the street not just the studio. Studio work is after the fact when talking about this genre and real progression happened in the streets and in collectives in the street. Barry Mcgee Espo Swoon Blu MSK JR - even though I am not a fan of his work he has his role. I think there are many 2nd tier artists that you could make arguments for that might be considered better collected or even better artists than some but historically relevant takes more than being good. There is a level of being in the right place at the right time and pioneering something that opened the doors for so many other artists that we might also think deserve to be on a list like this. personally, I feel like PINS recent work (especially the Allouche Gallery show) would be right at home in MoMA's permanent collection
While I love ESPO, I've always just seen his work as carrying the torch from the old days of hand painted signs. I've never thought of his work to be anything ground breaking. But mentioning ESPO made me wonder where Eine will fit in history?
Keith Harring He has his own era not sure he is a real peer of the current generation of painters 2000+ Basquiat Same with Harring a whole different generation. Banksy Paul Insect Love Pauls work and he is a great artist just not sure he would make this type of list. Maybe on a second tier of artists that would be considered Os Gemeos Invader Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey Conor Harrington Conor is the best but if you are looking for a retrospective Key figures to the progression would seem to be important. Conor is one of the best but might fall short when balancing the street to studio work. I think anyone that would be in some type of retrospective would be artists that were there at key points and had a role in shaping the overall movement. I also think they would have to have played in integral part in the street not just the studio. Studio work is after the fact when talking about this genre and real progression happened in the streets and in collectives in the street. Barry Mcgee Espo Swoon Blu MSK JR - even though I am not a fan of his work he has his role. I think there are many 2nd tier artists that you could make arguments for that might be considered better collected or even better artists than some but historically relevant takes more than being good. There is a level of being in the right place at the right time and pioneering something that opened the doors for so many other artists that we might also think deserve to be on a list like this. personally, I feel like PINS recent work (especially the Allouche Gallery show) would be right at home in MoMA's permanent collection While I love ESPO, I've always just seen his work as carrying the torch from the old days of hand painted signs. I've never thought of his work to be anything ground breaking. But mentioning ESPO made me wonder where Eine will fit in history?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by bgt5002 on Mar 2, 2015 4:20:44 GMT 1, Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner. like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ? I think you're underestimating her achievements. I love the debate and conversation it's created, but I think she's a shoo in. Art in the Streets, and her exhibiting of Ice Queen --which took up nearly as much space as Banksy-- cemented it for me.
Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner. like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ? I think you're underestimating her achievements. I love the debate and conversation it's created, but I think she's a shoo in. Art in the Streets, and her exhibiting of Ice Queen --which took up nearly as much space as Banksy-- cemented it for me.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 4:31:38 GMT 1, like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ? I think you're underestimating her achievements. I love the debate and conversation it's created, but I think she's a shoo in. Art in the Streets, and her exhibiting of Ice Queen --which took up nearly as much space as Banksy-- cemented it for me. cool. so Swoon will be there. Anyone else? For me, KAWS (though not really a fan), yes. Faile (generally not a fan, with a few exceptions), no.
like I said, I could very well be wrong. Maybe I am underestimating her achievements. My opinion is just my own, and I'd love to hear what other people think. Are there any artists I mentioned that you don't think will be looked back as highly upon in 50 years ? I think you're underestimating her achievements. I love the debate and conversation it's created, but I think she's a shoo in. Art in the Streets, and her exhibiting of Ice Queen --which took up nearly as much space as Banksy-- cemented it for me. cool. so Swoon will be there. Anyone else? For me, KAWS (though not really a fan), yes. Faile (generally not a fan, with a few exceptions), no.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by BKBOI on Mar 2, 2015 5:26:37 GMT 1, Mr. Brainwash?
Mr. Brainwash?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by natstan on Mar 2, 2015 6:11:38 GMT 1, Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington..
We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context?
Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington..
We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 2, 2015 6:49:14 GMT 1, Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington.. We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future.
Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington.. We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by maddoghoek100 on Mar 2, 2015 7:48:05 GMT 1, I would agree that basquiat and haring likely belong in a different show along with kenny scharf, john fekner, crash and others who became prominent in the 80s. I would probably think of someone like Blek la Rat as a possible transition to the modern era.
Cost i view as ubiquitous on the streets of new york, but im not sure the work is important or thoughtful enough. I like it, but i dont think it is for the history book, more a part of the textural fabric. In 50 year if there is a photo of an important street piece in new york, likely there is a cost paster nearby, partially in frame, or just out of frame.
i would think that the Brooklyn museum exhibition of failes work this summer might change the tune of some as to whether they should be on such a list. For me there is no question.
i get inclusion of swoon, but im not a huge fan. Certainly JR is a worthy inclusion. Ron English has not been mentioned and likely has done enough to warrant strong consideration. He is a technically brilliant painter, hugely prolific, strongly influential on the younger generation and he does have a point of view. Some of his pieces are a little too one note for me, but i could say the same of banksy.
the question was phased as in the future who would be viewed as important to the era. so there is room for an up and comer in the list, but Conor would not be my pic. I like what daleast is doing and it may one day be important enough for consideration. Maybe someone like Stik ends up doing enough.
I would agree that basquiat and haring likely belong in a different show along with kenny scharf, john fekner, crash and others who became prominent in the 80s. I would probably think of someone like Blek la Rat as a possible transition to the modern era.
Cost i view as ubiquitous on the streets of new york, but im not sure the work is important or thoughtful enough. I like it, but i dont think it is for the history book, more a part of the textural fabric. In 50 year if there is a photo of an important street piece in new york, likely there is a cost paster nearby, partially in frame, or just out of frame.
i would think that the Brooklyn museum exhibition of failes work this summer might change the tune of some as to whether they should be on such a list. For me there is no question.
i get inclusion of swoon, but im not a huge fan. Certainly JR is a worthy inclusion. Ron English has not been mentioned and likely has done enough to warrant strong consideration. He is a technically brilliant painter, hugely prolific, strongly influential on the younger generation and he does have a point of view. Some of his pieces are a little too one note for me, but i could say the same of banksy.
the question was phased as in the future who would be viewed as important to the era. so there is room for an up and comer in the list, but Conor would not be my pic. I like what daleast is doing and it may one day be important enough for consideration. Maybe someone like Stik ends up doing enough.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 8:08:30 GMT 1, These are only safe bets; not worth putting anyone else's name in there since it'll devolve into a hype discussion (And + if I own, to keep things objective).
Blek Le Rat Banksy (+) Mr. Brainwash (+) Os Gemeos Invader (+) Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey (+) Swoon JR Ron English Stik Faile (+) Bast DFace (+)
Those ones I feel like would need to be mentioned in a complete retrospective, or else someone would rightfully call the exhibit out as incomplete saying there were no __(whatever above artist)______ pieces there. MBW is unfortunate but it's just part of the Banksy story now.
All future Banksy exhibits should include one unmarked MBW piece and film people pondering its meaning. I may or may not have to include that piece myself from time to time.
These are only safe bets; not worth putting anyone else's name in there since it'll devolve into a hype discussion (And + if I own, to keep things objective).
Blek Le Rat Banksy (+) Mr. Brainwash (+) Os Gemeos Invader (+) Cost and Revs Shepard Fairey (+) Swoon JR Ron English Stik Faile (+) Bast DFace (+)
Those ones I feel like would need to be mentioned in a complete retrospective, or else someone would rightfully call the exhibit out as incomplete saying there were no __(whatever above artist)______ pieces there. MBW is unfortunate but it's just part of the Banksy story now.
All future Banksy exhibits should include one unmarked MBW piece and film people pondering its meaning. I may or may not have to include that piece myself from time to time.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Dungle on Mar 2, 2015 8:10:42 GMT 1, Anyone who i bought.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by natstan on Mar 2, 2015 8:18:02 GMT 1, Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington.. We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future.
For all we know, EZ may be a prominent figure in just another ten years. 40 years down the road, isn't that still part of history? Anyway, this thread is also hypothetical in the first place and based purely on guess.
Banksy, seen, ron english, kaws, jr, invader, faile and shepard fairey. And maybe os gemeos and harrington.. We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future. For all we know, EZ may be a prominent figure in just another ten years. 40 years down the road, isn't that still part of history? Anyway, this thread is also hypothetical in the first place and based purely on guess.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 8:19:03 GMT 1, We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? Ha I'd say they are more inclined to be interested because by 2065 all of these Western museums will likely be owned by Asian countries.
Zach needs to step it up, haven't seen much impressive stuff lately and seems like he's cruising. Then again everyone does, Banksy's shaming people. You feel weird even thinking about buying art after watching that video.
We never know, but Ernest Zachrevic is one of the most recognised street artists in Southeast Asia and may work his way into the list in his years ahead. He practically brought up the whole scene in malaysia and made penang known as a street art playground. Museums might be interested to cover that aspect due to its geographic context? Ha I'd say they are more inclined to be interested because by 2065 all of these Western museums will likely be owned by Asian countries. Zach needs to step it up, haven't seen much impressive stuff lately and seems like he's cruising. Then again everyone does, Banksy's shaming people. You feel weird even thinking about buying art after watching that video.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by raindogs on Mar 2, 2015 8:20:04 GMT 1, Banksy Blu Os Gemeos Space Invader Kaws
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 2, 2015 8:26:35 GMT 1, We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future. For all we know, EZ may be a prominent figure in just another ten years. 40 years down the road, isn't that still part of history? Anyway, this thread is also hypothetical in the first place and based purely on guess. I just dont want to get into a Hype thread or talking about who might be, what might happen is so vast its tough to really have a debate about. Where as what has happened and judging by that at this moment could EZ hold his own against other top tier guys I think its too early to say, but he is definitely doing some interesting work.
We can debate all day if we are to include current artists that are new to the scene, I think the question was about a retrospective on this era. To me that time has already past when some of the key moments have already passed and some artists where lucky to be there and have a say about it. Not saying todays artists wont be remembered but history is in the past and not about the future. For all we know, EZ may be a prominent figure in just another ten years. 40 years down the road, isn't that still part of history? Anyway, this thread is also hypothetical in the first place and based purely on guess. I just dont want to get into a Hype thread or talking about who might be, what might happen is so vast its tough to really have a debate about. Where as what has happened and judging by that at this moment could EZ hold his own against other top tier guys I think its too early to say, but he is definitely doing some interesting work.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Harveyn on Mar 2, 2015 8:36:30 GMT 1, From the current crop its always been five for me.
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From the current crop its always been five for me.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 2, 2015 8:36:49 GMT 1, personally, I feel like PINS recent work (especially the Allouche Gallery show) would be right at home in MoMA's permanent collection While I love ESPO, I've always just seen his work as carrying the torch from the old days of hand painted signs. I've never thought of his work to be anything ground breaking. But mentioning ESPO made me wonder where Eine will fit in history? I just think if you bring someone like PINS into the conversation you have to include a vast range of other artists that are great artists but not as important historically. I think Cost and Revs are very important historically and vastly under appreciated but their work was ahead of its time and it happens. I am not saying their current work is better than some contemporaries but It is an important piece of the history especially in the US.
I dont agree with the Espo comparison as clearly painting signs is a representational element he chose to work with even if its been used in the past its relevant to what he does. We dont strike other artists for using the figure when its been painted since the beginning of painting, its a representational element the artist uses to create a concept or aesthetic they are trying to convey. All art has been done before all elements have been conceived but it has not made art irrelevant as the subject and context continues to change, we use things for different reasons such as Espo using sign painting for his conceptual approach to making art. Espo also was a key figure in the early days of street art with iconic exhibitions with Deitch like Street market, that is a classic and historical show.
Eine could be important in the longrun due to his history painting trains then transitioning to what some call street art as well, I think he might be on a list like this. Todd James also comes to mind for being such a key part of the early days of street art even if his work now is more contemporary his history is entrenched in the genre.
personally, I feel like PINS recent work (especially the Allouche Gallery show) would be right at home in MoMA's permanent collection While I love ESPO, I've always just seen his work as carrying the torch from the old days of hand painted signs. I've never thought of his work to be anything ground breaking. But mentioning ESPO made me wonder where Eine will fit in history? I just think if you bring someone like PINS into the conversation you have to include a vast range of other artists that are great artists but not as important historically. I think Cost and Revs are very important historically and vastly under appreciated but their work was ahead of its time and it happens. I am not saying their current work is better than some contemporaries but It is an important piece of the history especially in the US. I dont agree with the Espo comparison as clearly painting signs is a representational element he chose to work with even if its been used in the past its relevant to what he does. We dont strike other artists for using the figure when its been painted since the beginning of painting, its a representational element the artist uses to create a concept or aesthetic they are trying to convey. All art has been done before all elements have been conceived but it has not made art irrelevant as the subject and context continues to change, we use things for different reasons such as Espo using sign painting for his conceptual approach to making art. Espo also was a key figure in the early days of street art with iconic exhibitions with Deitch like Street market, that is a classic and historical show. Eine could be important in the longrun due to his history painting trains then transitioning to what some call street art as well, I think he might be on a list like this. Todd James also comes to mind for being such a key part of the early days of street art even if his work now is more contemporary his history is entrenched in the genre.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Someones Brain on Mar 2, 2015 8:58:08 GMT 1, What about the "graffiti" connection? There's no graffiti artist on your lists. Wouldn't some of them belong into a retrospective (depending on the range and focus of the exhibition of course)? Can you tell the (complete) story of urban art without graffiti?
What about the "graffiti" connection? There's no graffiti artist on your lists. Wouldn't some of them belong into a retrospective (depending on the range and focus of the exhibition of course)? Can you tell the (complete) story of urban art without graffiti?
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by stvro22 on Mar 2, 2015 9:36:01 GMT 1, I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the sameย notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. ย but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner.
Swoon definitely makes the list.
I love Swoon's work, more than some of the artists on my list even, but I don't know if her work has achieved the sameย notoriety and will be deemed as "important" in the historical context as the others. ย but I'd be happy to hear your thoughts as to why she'd be included Swoon is by far more important than some on your list, and thats really not too debatable. She has been a played a pivotal role in street art in the streets as well as being accepted into institutions with her installations. She has paid dues and respected amongst her peers. I dont see how she could be left off any list that would mention street art in a historical manner. Swoon definitely makes the list.
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The year is 2065. There is an Urban Art retrospective..., by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 9:41:32 GMT 1, Wont be any interest in art stuff by then, we'll all live on the moon and watch the moomins.
Wont be any interest in art stuff by then, we'll all live on the moon and watch the moomins.
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