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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 20:30:27 GMT 1, I think you need to understand two points. 1. Some banksy collectors are wealthy and banksy sells to them. Doesn't make them any less of a collector or banksy any less of an artist with strong ideals. All it means is that they like banksy, and er are wealthy. Drawing any further conclusions is seriously lazy. 2. How do you think he pays for shows like BOTI or Bristol or whatever is next? He has to sell some serious art to fund these things and so he does this by selling to people who can be trusted not to flip. How many of these or love hurts or various APs do u see for sale? How else should he get the money to do this stuff. You need to get over the price and pow vip factor as if really doesn't change a thing. If it does for you, I'll happpily pick up your banksy prints (with a nice discount to reflect your outrage of course) ;-) That's fine. But is Banksy really a 'street artist' for the people anymore? Or is he just a super famous artist how makes a lot of money now...... 
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I think you need to understand two points. 1. Some banksy collectors are wealthy and banksy sells to them. Doesn't make them any less of a collector or banksy any less of an artist with strong ideals. All it means is that they like banksy, and er are wealthy. Drawing any further conclusions is seriously lazy. 2. How do you think he pays for shows like BOTI or Bristol or whatever is next? He has to sell some serious art to fund these things and so he does this by selling to people who can be trusted not to flip. How many of these or love hurts or various APs do u see for sale? How else should he get the money to do this stuff. You need to get over the price and pow vip factor as if really doesn't change a thing. If it does for you, I'll happpily pick up your banksy prints (with a nice discount to reflect your outrage of course) ;-) That's fine. But is Banksy really a 'street artist' for the people anymore? Or is he just a super famous artist how makes a lot of money now...... .... And spending the majority of his 'wealth' on raising a "little" awareness on things which are in need of some attention #No_hashtag_which_is_a_hashtag_on_its_own |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 11, 2015 21:14:43 GMT 1, That's fine. But is Banksy really a 'street artist' for the people anymore? Or is he just a super famous artist how makes a lot of money now. Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO.ย
His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right?
I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
That's fine. But is Banksy really a 'street artist' for the people anymore? Or is he just a super famous artist how makes a lot of money now. Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO.ย His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by loother on Mar 11, 2015 21:41:23 GMT 1, I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner.
I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner.
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 21:47:31 GMT 1, I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner.
I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner. I believe they call that the OBEY model. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Sweetcorn on Mar 11, 2015 21:51:34 GMT 1, Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO. His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popular otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO. His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popular otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Mar 11, 2015 22:14:25 GMT 1, There's a member of this forum who bought a few OG's (amazing pieces) after the museum show and american tour, and I presume he's on a list of people who have been following banksy from the start? So they get looked after, offered pieces first..
I rembered a few years ago I had some cash to buy a little josh Keyes OG (I'm a big fan) but there was a massive list going back years of his early fans waiting for an OG. So it's common and to be fair we'd all do the same thing.
There's a member of this forum who bought a few OG's (amazing pieces) after the museum show and american tour, and I presume he's on a list of people who have been following banksy from the start? So they get looked after, offered pieces first..
I rembered a few years ago I had some cash to buy a little josh Keyes OG (I'm a big fan) but there was a massive list going back years of his early fans waiting for an OG. So it's common and to be fair we'd all do the same thing.
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:23:01 GMT 1, ...I know that member, there is another member also so thats at least two, like buses.
Not me, poor.
...I know that member, there is another member also so thats at least two, like buses.
Not me, poor.
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 22:28:56 GMT 1, ...I know that member, there is another member also so thats at least two, like buses. Not me, poor.
LOL Wiz, I certainly wouldn't mind being as "poor" as you 
...I know that member, there is another member also so thats at least two, like buses. Not me, poor. LOL Wiz, I certainly wouldn't mind being as "poor" as you |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 11, 2015 23:15:33 GMT 1, His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popularย otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that.
I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected.
His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popularย otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Black Apple Art on Mar 11, 2015 23:15:37 GMT 1, Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO.ย His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha
Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets.
Off the top of my head he is the only big name that is exclusively doing "illegal" or non-sanctioned street work. The stellar secondary prices of his work have nothing to do with him being "street". He's as street as it gets IMO.ย His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by A.R.T. on Mar 11, 2015 23:23:12 GMT 1,
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popularย otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected.
You are one comical individual. First with your love for Bambi and now these rediculous statements. You do provide some funny statements!
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popularย otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected. You are one comical individual. First with your love for Bambi and now these rediculous statements. You do provide some funny statements! |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Sweetcorn on Mar 11, 2015 23:32:46 GMT 1,
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popular otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected.
Yes it really is illegal, unannounced, under cover,
*And he wants to consider himself very lucky he's become so popular otherwise he'd be doing a lot of porridge
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Dr Plip on Mar 11, 2015 23:34:27 GMT 1, How did the Heavy Weaponry Elephant manage to escape becoming a print?
How did the Heavy Weaponry Elephant manage to escape becoming a print?
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by bonesy on Mar 11, 2015 23:34:51 GMT 1, I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner.
You have to remember the most recent mass releases. CYW was chaos. NOLA oversold online and he had to produce the grey edition for all the cry babies. If he has a small list of good customers that don't immediately re-sell then why wouldn't he stick to that game plan? The most recent public releases have proven to be nothing but a headache.
I don't care if he never makes another print, I just don't understand why he'd keep making prints but not let anyone (more or less) see them or buy them. I understand that he needs to fund his street work, but he'd have made more money selling 250 times as many prints for a hundredth of the price, and he'd have made many more people happy in the process. I think he's a very naughty boy and should go stand in the corner. You have to remember the most recent mass releases. CYW was chaos. NOLA oversold online and he had to produce the grey edition for all the cry babies. If he has a small list of good customers that don't immediately re-sell then why wouldn't he stick to that game plan? The most recent public releases have proven to be nothing but a headache. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 23:36:46 GMT 1, How did the Heavy Weaponry Elephant manage to escape becoming a print?
or did it??
(No, it didn't )
How did the Heavy Weaponry Elephant manage to escape becoming a print? or did it?? (No, it didn't ) |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 11, 2015 23:43:06 GMT 1, His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets.
Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another.
Lol. Real illegal. Haha
His work isn't really illegal though right. I mean that's why you put in in quotations right? I mean what other illegal art work do you see being protected by the government. Haha Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 11, 2015 23:44:19 GMT 1, Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected.
Cool!
Keep telling yourself that. I don't know much illegal graffiti that gets left up and protected. Cool! |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by nex on Mar 11, 2015 23:51:18 GMT 1, Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha
Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda.
Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so.
Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha [ Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda. Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Sweetcorn on Mar 11, 2015 23:52:13 GMT 1, Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha Well it wouldn't have been illegal the second time ! I suppose that's why he said fuck em
Well in fact they actually are illegal. I put it in quotes because while against the law for the most part they are desirable. Just a huge contrast to most all other large names that get flown out to a sectioned off wall with a lift and paint waiting. Not that there is anything wrong with that either but my poi t is he's as "street" as it gets. Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha Well it wouldn't have been illegal the second time ! I suppose that's why he said fuck em
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 23:55:54 GMT 1, The pigeons was a great location too.
A mens bog.
Perfect place for visitors and tourists to congregate with the hi fones and cameras.
The pigeons was a great location too.
A mens bog.
Perfect place for visitors and tourists to congregate with the hi fones and cameras.
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 2:09:46 GMT 1, if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me.
if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me.
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by phly on Mar 12, 2015 8:18:05 GMT 1, Larger picture:
Larger picture: |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Lroy on Mar 12, 2015 8:38:38 GMT 1, It's singed !!!!
It's singed !!!!
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Lroy on Mar 12, 2015 9:00:19 GMT 1, Fะฏ Knows - what I mean upstairs..
Anyway , very hard to tag him now with his crypted letters !! Try yourself this gymnasstic, to put a " . " on a " F " ... Norway symbol ?
Well, Just to say - few weeks I read here that most Buyers of Banksy here, were dentists ( that's why we can call them " eater of prints " they have good teeth, first served ) ... Anyway, this office behind the rpint looks like a Dentist ' s VIP (lol) Waiting-Room ! There is a bar !!!
Did Dumbo had good tusks ?
Fะฏ Knows - what I mean upstairs.. Anyway , very hard to tag him now with his crypted letters !! Try yourself this gymnasstic, to put a " . " on a " F " ... Norway symbol ? Well, Just to say - few weeks I read here that most Buyers of Banksy here, were dentists ( that's why we can call them " eater of prints " they have good teeth, first served ) ... Anyway, this office behind the rpint looks like a Dentist ' s VIP (lol) Waiting-Room ! There is a bar !!! Did Dumbo had good tusks ?
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Lroy on Mar 12, 2015 9:05:51 GMT 1, if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me.
Well, I can.
But my spray can is not good.
More seriously, Banksy made this for Gaza ' s occupants... I guess that He had help ( we ee him in a tunnel ) , autorisation ( I don't know if we have to had some in Gaza ! ) connaissances, people, around him, etc.. I He was not alone, his staff ( for stencils, frilming etc... ) was with him
I guess thiat It would be more complicated to make graffitis in Buckingham Palace, lol
Just talking, you see ... ( nice avatar anyway )
if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me. You have a nice avatar ( but it's another thread ) ... Well, I can. But my spray can is not good. More seriously, Banksy made this for Gaza ' s occupants... I guess that He had help ( we ee him in a tunnel ) , autorisation ( I don't know if we have to had some in Gaza ! ) connaissances, people, around him, etc.. I He was not alone, his staff ( for stencils, frilming etc... ) was with him I guess thiat It would be more complicated to make graffitis in Buckingham Palace, lol Just talking, you see ... ( nice avatar anyway ) |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Lroy on Mar 12, 2015 9:15:29 GMT 1, Anyway, to finish, after i go back to school, I have absolutely no teeth against dentists.
As I usually say : " the wolf has sharp teeth, the man, dentures " ...
Anyway, to finish, after i go back to school, I have absolutely no teeth against dentists.
As I usually say : " the wolf has sharp teeth, the man, dentures " ...
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Coach on Mar 12, 2015 11:09:42 GMT 1, Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha [ Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda. Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so.
Well said
Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha [ Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda. Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so. Well said |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 12, 2015 11:19:10 GMT 1, if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me.
If you think Banksy just woke up one day and grabbed a spray can and said I'm going to gaza to paint then you need to wake up.
if you think what banksy is doing is legal, i invite you to enter gaza and spraypaint on some walls. kidding me. If you think Banksy just woke up one day and grabbed a spray can and said I'm going to gaza to paint then you need to wake up. |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 12, 2015 11:22:51 GMT 1, Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha [ Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda. Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so.
You are exactly right.
And you just confirmed what I've been saying. "His illegal work is now legal".
Oh yes. Like after they buffed that one they thought might be racist but then realized it was a Banksy and said they would 'welcome' him to paint another. Lol. Real illegal. Haha [ Murk you seem to be wilfully missing the point to fit your own agenda. Surely the point is (and banksy obviously knows this) is 'his illegal work is now 'legal' because of his value and fame', it doesn't stop the creation from being illegal but just warps the worlds view of it due to the factors I've mentioned. He knows this and plays off this. That's actually an element of his work that has in my opinion taken it off the street and conceptually made it much closer to contemporary art. There's not many street artist who can do that illegally, or choose to do it as so. You are exactly right. And you just confirmed what I've been saying. "His illegal work is now legal". |
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Banksy Dumbo Print and Video, by Deleted on Mar 12, 2015 13:31:13 GMT 1, The work of a vandal protected by the government. Amazing.
Banksy, the undisputed king of irony.
(this is a compliment)
The work of a vandal protected by the government. Amazing.
Banksy, the undisputed king of irony.
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