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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by craigf on Sept 26, 2010 14:21:57 GMT 1, I think your point is completely valid Adam re value to you and in the right circumstances could get you one. It would depend on lots of factors, but in the past I have been very lucky re getting a couple of pieces below their perceived market value. Normally this has been because I have taken a risk on say an eBay auction when the seller was unclear in description, lacked feedback etc. I will always obviously do whatever I can to mitigate the risk. There are however lots of cases when I have been beaten by a single bid because I valued the piece lower than the ultimate winner, some I kick myself for, but c'est la vie
I think your point is completely valid Adam re value to you and in the right circumstances could get you one. It would depend on lots of factors, but in the past I have been very lucky re getting a couple of pieces below their perceived market value. Normally this has been because I have taken a risk on say an eBay auction when the seller was unclear in description, lacked feedback etc. I will always obviously do whatever I can to mitigate the risk. There are however lots of cases when I have been beaten by a single bid because I valued the piece lower than the ultimate winner, some I kick myself for, but c'est la vie
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by Deleted on Sept 26, 2010 14:35:43 GMT 1, craig, yep. It would be all too easy to splash more money than I am comfortable spending on particular pieces, but, I guard against doing so.
In the rare occasion that I have done it, it has always soiled my enjoyment of the piece once it was on the wall.
Far better to set a price you are comfortable with, to stick with it (reviewing it against market now and again) and to enjoy the thrill of the hunt.
Personally, I enjoy the pictures on my walls far better that way.
craig, yep. It would be all too easy to splash more money than I am comfortable spending on particular pieces, but, I guard against doing so.
In the rare occasion that I have done it, it has always soiled my enjoyment of the piece once it was on the wall.
Far better to set a price you are comfortable with, to stick with it (reviewing it against market now and again) and to enjoy the thrill of the hunt.
Personally, I enjoy the pictures on my walls far better that way.
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by eddiedangerous on Sept 27, 2010 14:11:24 GMT 1, You think eddie? I hold to my valuation of £1300, which I know is accurate as it's the price I would pay. Doesn't mean I'll get one at that price, but it is honestly how I currently value it.
I didn't realise this was a thread more about the philosophy of values and perceived values more to do with what they are actually going for when they do come up.
I respect both Adam and Craigs comments but by Adam's standards I value the Masarati I want at 20k, which is about 50k short of what I could purchase it for, therefore I will never own it.
So in answer to the question what are these going for at the moment whcih I believe was the general inquiry originally by Lazarus, I would suggest the following details from expresso beans to be slightly more accurate in terms of what people are prepared to pay (if they actually want to own one that is)
6 month avr value $3769
Avr Price $6428
Lowest Price $3768
Highest Price $8117
All of which suggests that to actually own one of these prints, on the rare occasion they actually come up for sale you would have to part with significantly more than £1400 as there will almost always be someone (me for one) prepared to pay more for the print.
I would give a conservative current estimate of around £2500 in mint condition, not via a gallery.
You think eddie? I hold to my valuation of £1300, which I know is accurate as it's the price I would pay. Doesn't mean I'll get one at that price, but it is honestly how I currently value it. I didn't realise this was a thread more about the philosophy of values and perceived values more to do with what they are actually going for when they do come up. I respect both Adam and Craigs comments but by Adam's standards I value the Masarati I want at 20k, which is about 50k short of what I could purchase it for, therefore I will never own it. So in answer to the question what are these going for at the moment whcih I believe was the general inquiry originally by Lazarus, I would suggest the following details from expresso beans to be slightly more accurate in terms of what people are prepared to pay (if they actually want to own one that is) 6 month avr value $3769 Avr Price $6428 Lowest Price $3768 Highest Price $8117 All of which suggests that to actually own one of these prints, on the rare occasion they actually come up for sale you would have to part with significantly more than £1400 as there will almost always be someone (me for one) prepared to pay more for the print. I would give a conservative current estimate of around £2500 in mint condition, not via a gallery. |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by walshy on Sept 27, 2010 14:20:07 GMT 1, its unsigned that the price check is for, not signed
its unsigned that the price check is for, not signed
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saint
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by saint on Sept 27, 2010 14:45:11 GMT 1, Yeah i'd say 1400 is a little high personally, i think the last signed i saw sell was 3500, so unsigned, 1200??
Just my opinion of course, i dont have one and don't want one so not trying to lowball you.
EDIT- actually that may have been the flying copper on dickinsons real deal repeated the other week. I think that sold for 3500 sometime last year originally?
Yeah i'd say 1400 is a little high personally, i think the last signed i saw sell was 3500, so unsigned, 1200??
Just my opinion of course, i dont have one and don't want one so not trying to lowball you.
EDIT- actually that may have been the flying copper on dickinsons real deal repeated the other week. I think that sold for 3500 sometime last year originally?
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by silvermyn on Sept 27, 2010 14:54:02 GMT 1, Yeah i'd say 1400 is a little high personally, i think the last signed i saw sell was 3500, so unsigned, 1200?? Just my opinion of course, i dont have one and don't want one so not trying to lowball you. EDIT- actually that may have been the flying copper on dickinsons real deal repeated the other week. I think that sold for 3500 sometime last year originally?
I caught that one too. Was pretty surprised to see a Banksy on that show. The frame was pretty awful from what I remember but it went for a bargain price IMO.
Yeah i'd say 1400 is a little high personally, i think the last signed i saw sell was 3500, so unsigned, 1200?? Just my opinion of course, i dont have one and don't want one so not trying to lowball you. EDIT- actually that may have been the flying copper on dickinsons real deal repeated the other week. I think that sold for 3500 sometime last year originally? I caught that one too. Was pretty surprised to see a Banksy on that show. The frame was pretty awful from what I remember but it went for a bargain price IMO. |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by eddiedangerous on Sept 27, 2010 15:17:35 GMT 1,
d'oh
i'll get my jacket!
im going back to bed this day's not going so well!
d'oh i'll get my jacket! im going back to bed this day's not going so well! |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by walshy on Sept 27, 2010 15:20:43 GMT 1, Big difference from a Average Price of $6428
Big difference from a Average Price of $6428
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by gironawatch on Sept 27, 2010 17:32:00 GMT 1, Last one on ebay sold for over 1800
Last one on ebay sold for over 1800
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2010 7:35:16 GMT 1, Eddie, about your Maserati, just wait a couple of years and that £70K model you're looking for will be £20K - maybe less if you manage to find one on the hard shoulder!!
Eddie, about your Maserati, just wait a couple of years and that £70K model you're looking for will be £20K - maybe less if you manage to find one on the hard shoulder!!
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by craigf on Sept 28, 2010 8:09:02 GMT 1, Wouldn't go for a mazza, ferrari engine and running costs without Ferrari performance as they tend to detune the engine.....
Wouldn't go for a mazza, ferrari engine and running costs without Ferrari performance as they tend to detune the engine.....
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by craigf on Sept 28, 2010 8:23:37 GMT 1, BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it....
BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it....
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by babyford on Sept 28, 2010 10:17:06 GMT 1, The flying copper is a nice large print -Great image if framed £1400-£1500 
Might be selling a u/s Happy chopper framed pm if you are interested 
The flying copper is a nice large print -Great image if framed £1400-£1500 Might be selling a u/s Happy chopper framed pm if you are interested |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by saint on Sept 28, 2010 10:36:56 GMT 1, BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it....
The duke loved it tho! A real treat i believe he called it....
The original episode was shown on friday the 18th of december 2009, i just googled it.... The sale wouldnt have been much before that i dont think.
BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it.... The duke loved it tho! A real treat i believe he called it.... The original episode was shown on friday the 18th of december 2009, i just googled it.... The sale wouldnt have been much before that i dont think. |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by marine22 on Sept 28, 2010 10:52:10 GMT 1, Sure it wasn't a right bobby dazzler!!
Sure it wasn't a right bobby dazzler!!
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by saint on Sept 28, 2010 10:56:39 GMT 1, It might well have been! cheap as chips as well if i'm not mistaken.
It might well have been! cheap as chips as well if i'm not mistaken.
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by walshy on Sept 28, 2010 12:15:45 GMT 1, BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it.... The duke loved it tho! A real treat i believe he called it....
Surely he called it a 'bobby dazzler' ;D
BTW the Dickenson Deal sale was 2007 / 2008 and it really wasn't the right place to auction a Banksy piece was it.... The duke loved it tho! A real treat i believe he called it.... Surely he called it a 'bobby dazzler' ;D |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by franc00 on Nov 6, 2010 9:52:43 GMT 1, Banksy Flying Copper Unsigned
Classic Banksy for sale on ebay.
Item number: 170558846820
Purchased at Santa's Ghetto - Full Receipt
Plus additional COA from POW
Single owner since purchase.
Mint condition.
Lovely addition to any collection.
Banksy Flying Copper Unsigned
Classic Banksy for sale on ebay.
Item number: 170558846820
Purchased at Santa's Ghetto - Full Receipt
Plus additional COA from POW
Single owner since purchase.
Mint condition.
Lovely addition to any collection.
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by coloco on Dec 8, 2010 11:48:52 GMT 1, Hello
If you have one with COA ad mint conditions please PM me with your best price.
Hello
If you have one with COA ad mint conditions please PM me with your best price.
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by jusdeep on Dec 17, 2010 16:47:42 GMT 1, As it says…
Signed Flying copper 
As it says… Signed Flying copper |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by pokodogo on Dec 17, 2010 16:53:04 GMT 1, £2300 turned down .................... 
£2300 turned down .................... |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by jusdeep on Dec 17, 2010 16:54:28 GMT 1, and sold for £3.5k at auction
and sold for £3.5k at auction
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by pokodogo on Dec 17, 2010 16:54:56 GMT 1, 3500 .......... Bargain imo .......... wonder what date this show was filmed!
3500 .......... Bargain imo .......... wonder what date this show was filmed!
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by jusdeep on Dec 17, 2010 16:56:21 GMT 1, filmed in 2009
filmed in 2009
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by Warm Gun on Dec 17, 2010 16:58:23 GMT 1,
Was about to say......that was ages ago!
Was about to say......that was ages ago! |
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by Daniel Silk on Dec 17, 2010 17:13:09 GMT 1, Yeah, must have been about the forth time they have repeated that show.
Yeah, must have been about the forth time they have repeated that show.
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Banksy Flying Copper Print, by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 17:15:03 GMT 1, But did you see The Highwayman piece on The Apprentice this week?
Well spotted sir!
But did you see The Highwayman piece on The Apprentice this week? Well spotted sir! |
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