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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by begs on Jan 19, 2021 13:44:48 GMT 1, Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's. Can you actually get a COA
Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's. Can you actually get a COA
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by andypandy on Jan 19, 2021 14:42:18 GMT 1, GDP Thrower signes with COA 265000 ยฃ Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)
Interested to know what you base these prices on?
Have any actually sold on the open market?
GDP Thrower signes with COA 265000 ยฃ Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by nameless on Jan 19, 2021 16:24:48 GMT 1, Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market?
on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far
Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market? on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by nameless on Jan 19, 2021 17:26:32 GMT 1, Wondering what the auction houses are doing about forwarding on of COA re GDP items, if anything at all. As Ive said before I definitely think legal/contractual involvement will be required and best advised. My feeling is if Mr B senses or knows its been flipped then no COA will be sent at all. Which will be an interesting development to see unfold...
I really think that Mr. B is aware of everything and will not send any COA to the people who sold his works before receiving the COA
Wondering what the auction houses are doing about forwarding on of COA re GDP items, if anything at all. As Ive said before I definitely think legal/contractual involvement will be required and best advised. My feeling is if Mr B senses or knows its been flipped then no COA will be sent at all. Which will be an interesting development to see unfold...
I really think that Mr. B is aware of everything and will not send any COA to the people who sold his works before receiving the COA
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 17:31:26 GMT 1, Wondering what the auction houses are doing about forwarding on of COA re GDP items, if anything at all. As Ive said before I definitely think legal/contractual involvement will be required and best advised. My feeling is if Mr B senses or knows its been flipped then no COA will be sent at all. Which will be an interesting development to see unfold...
I really think that Mr. B is aware of everything and will not send any COA to the people who sold his works before receiving the COA
I dont
Wondering what the auction houses are doing about forwarding on of COA re GDP items, if anything at all. As Ive said before I definitely think legal/contractual involvement will be required and best advised. My feeling is if Mr B senses or knows its been flipped then no COA will be sent at all. Which will be an interesting development to see unfold...
I really think that Mr. B is aware of everything and will not send any COA to the people who sold his works before receiving the COA I dont
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andypandy
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by andypandy on Jan 19, 2021 17:57:29 GMT 1, Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market? on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far
Tate Ward sold 2 of these so that makes them worth ยฃ250k.....?
That in itself along with the points youโve raised, I personally would not consider these to even be relevant indicators of the potential value.
Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market? on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far Tate Ward sold 2 of these so that makes them worth ยฃ250k.....? That in itself along with the points youโve raised, I personally would not consider these to even be relevant indicators of the potential value.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Twister on Jan 19, 2021 18:58:51 GMT 1, hi to everyone!!!
I need your opinion, what is that? Value? thanks
hi to everyone!!! I need your opinion, what is that? Value? thanks
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Dexter Bulldog on Jan 19, 2021 19:04:25 GMT 1, whats a cwsb changing hands for these days ?
whats a cwsb changing hands for these days ?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Schooner on Jan 19, 2021 22:40:14 GMT 1, GDP Thrower signes with COA 265000 ยฃ Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)
Cheers, this is appreciated.
GDP Thrower signes with COA 265000 ยฃ Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) Cheers, this is appreciated.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Schooner on Jan 19, 2021 22:41:36 GMT 1, Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's.
I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense.
Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k) With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's. I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense.
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andypandy
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by andypandy on Jan 20, 2021 0:41:33 GMT 1, With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's. I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense. It is too soon to be talking about it being worth 3/4 of a bar. That is insane for an edition of 300. Maybe the hand finished version in a few years time, but not for an edition of 300.
Would probably be more accurate to have this debate once all of the COA's are in hand and some of the owners who wish to cash in start selling at Reputable auction houses.
I am not sure we can rely on the results from 2 consecutive auctions at TW when we really do not know if a) they actually even sold b) the second sale was the first one re-submitted c) there will be any issues/delays with obtaining COA's at the end of this year d) if PCO are going to ask the original buyers for proof that the item is still in their possession to ensure that the terms of sale have been adhered to.
The best way to see what it is worth is probably to wait....at least until another couple have sold with COA and that probably won't be until next year at the earliest
With COA they will be up there with Girl With Balloon AP's. I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense. It is too soon to be talking about it being worth 3/4 of a bar. That is insane for an edition of 300. Maybe the hand finished version in a few years time, but not for an edition of 300. Would probably be more accurate to have this debate once all of the COA's are in hand and some of the owners who wish to cash in start selling at Reputable auction houses. I am not sure we can rely on the results from 2 consecutive auctions at TW when we really do not know if a) they actually even sold b) the second sale was the first one re-submitted c) there will be any issues/delays with obtaining COA's at the end of this year d) if PCO are going to ask the original buyers for proof that the item is still in their possession to ensure that the terms of sale have been adhered to. The best way to see what it is worth is probably to wait....at least until another couple have sold with COA and that probably won't be until next year at the earliest
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Dice on Jan 20, 2021 8:28:29 GMT 1, Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k
Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Catman 74 on Jan 20, 2021 8:33:59 GMT 1, Hi guys,
What's the going price for the "Riot Van" gift print with solid provenance these days?
Thank you, Cat
Hi guys,
What's the going price for the "Riot Van" gift print with solid provenance these days?
Thank you, Cat
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by E9Boy on Jan 20, 2021 9:04:55 GMT 1, Hi guys, What's the going price for the "Riot Van" gift print with solid provenance these days? Thank you, Cat Made ยฃ20k inc juice at last TW sale...
Hi guys, What's the going price for the "Riot Van" gift print with solid provenance these days? Thank you, Cat Made ยฃ20k inc juice at last TW sale...
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Catman 74 on Jan 20, 2021 9:19:13 GMT 1, Thank you!
Thank you!
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by The Italian One on Jan 20, 2021 10:37:49 GMT 1, hi to everyone!!! I need your opinion, what is that? Value? thanks ciao,
i have no idea on price but I'm sure somebody on here will have a wider knowledge on what it is and how much it is worth.
welcome to UAA
hi to everyone!!! I need your opinion, what is that? Value? thanks ciao, i have no idea on price but I'm sure somebody on here will have a wider knowledge on what it is and how much it is worth. welcome to UAA
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by nameless on Jan 20, 2021 11:41:38 GMT 1, Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k
Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices
Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by samir21 on Jan 20, 2021 11:57:54 GMT 1, Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market? on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far the same item actively listed twice
Interested to know what you base these prices on? Have any actually sold on the open market? on tateward two of them were sold at a price of 250k without COA, WITHOUT COA, I think it's madness to sell such a work without COA, both for the great risks of not receiving the COA at all and because the value of the work with the COA over the years will go that far the same item actively listed twice
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by samir21 on Jan 20, 2021 12:00:27 GMT 1, I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense. It is too soon to be talking about it being worth 3/4 of a bar. That is insane for an edition of 300. Maybe the hand finished version in a few years time, but not for an edition of 300. Would probably be more accurate to have this debate once all of the COA's are in hand and some of the owners who wish to cash in start selling at Reputable auction houses. I am not sure we can rely on the results from 2 consecutive auctions at TW when we really do not know if a) they actually even sold b) the second sale was the first one re-submitted c) there will be any issues/delays with obtaining COA's at the end of this year d) if PCO are going to ask the original buyers for proof that the item is still in their possession to ensure that the terms of sale have been adhered to. The best way to see what it is worth is probably to wait....at least until another couple have sold with COA and that probably won't be until next year at the earliest closing Banksy auction manipulation
I've been told this very thing from 3 different people one of which is a very reputable auction house. Makes sense. It is too soon to be talking about it being worth 3/4 of a bar. That is insane for an edition of 300. Maybe the hand finished version in a few years time, but not for an edition of 300. Would probably be more accurate to have this debate once all of the COA's are in hand and some of the owners who wish to cash in start selling at Reputable auction houses. I am not sure we can rely on the results from 2 consecutive auctions at TW when we really do not know if a) they actually even sold b) the second sale was the first one re-submitted c) there will be any issues/delays with obtaining COA's at the end of this year d) if PCO are going to ask the original buyers for proof that the item is still in their possession to ensure that the terms of sale have been adhered to. The best way to see what it is worth is probably to wait....at least until another couple have sold with COA and that probably won't be until next year at the earliest closing Banksy auction manipulation
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 20, 2021 12:03:32 GMT 1, Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices
Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is.
Agreed, there a lot of these. Not many have surfaced but if there are or will actually be 300 out there I donโt see them going for 700k Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by nameless on Jan 20, 2021 12:45:04 GMT 1, Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is.
Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
Girl with balloon is an edition of 600.... however I respect everyone's thinking, I just think that this type of work so particular will go at very high prices Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is. Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 20, 2021 12:58:00 GMT 1, Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is. Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment.
'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)'
For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k.
Thrower print is in my view a much better print than gwrb. Unfortunately for you, it will never reach the same prices, as gwrb is the most iconic image. Ask anyone in the street to name a Banksy image and see what their answer is. Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment. 'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)' For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by singerstu on Jan 20, 2021 14:00:51 GMT 1, Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment. 'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)' For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k. Spot on with Sale Ends but now they are changing hands in the region of +/-ยฃ65K. If an U/S Litta ed 500 is over ยฃ200k (Maybe a bit less) then the signed Thrower Tryptic ed 300 with COA after the sales rush dries up must be at least double that and maybe more.
I guess we will only know when we read this tread in 2-3 years time.
Ok for the most iconic, but the flower thrower (LIITA) is the 2nd most iconic ๐
Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment. 'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)' For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k. Spot on with Sale Ends but now they are changing hands in the region of +/-ยฃ65K. If an U/S Litta ed 500 is over ยฃ200k (Maybe a bit less) then the signed Thrower Tryptic ed 300 with COA after the sales rush dries up must be at least double that and maybe more. I guess we will only know when we read this tread in 2-3 years time.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Terry Fuckwitt on Jan 20, 2021 14:16:50 GMT 1, Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment. 'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)' For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k. Spot on with Sale Ends but now they are changing hands in the region of +/-ยฃ65K. If an U/S Litta ed 500 is over ยฃ200k (Maybe a bit less) then the signed Thrower Tryptic ed 300 with COA after the sales rush dries up must be at least double that and maybe more. I guess we will only know when we read this tread in 2-3 years time.
Yeah, I was just trying to explain that his optimistic tripling of price once a Coa is issued is not realistic. It will sure fetch big sums in a couple of years, but will always fall well below gwrb.
Yep, but just don't set such high expectations, it will only lead to disappointment. 'Without COA ยฃ250k (risking a lot) and for you the real price with COA is ยฃ265k? ๐ค I think much more with COA (ยฃ700k)' For comparison, Sale Ends V2 were changing hands for about ยฃ15k without Coa. A year later with Coa's they were selling for about ยฃ17-ยฃ18k. Spot on with Sale Ends but now they are changing hands in the region of +/-ยฃ65K. If an U/S Litta ed 500 is over ยฃ200k (Maybe a bit less) then the signed Thrower Tryptic ed 300 with COA after the sales rush dries up must be at least double that and maybe more. I guess we will only know when we read this tread in 2-3 years time. Yeah, I was just trying to explain that his optimistic tripling of price once a Coa is issued is not realistic. It will sure fetch big sums in a couple of years, but will always fall well below gwrb.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by tonys on Jan 20, 2021 16:00:57 GMT 1, People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999%
Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether.
People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999%
Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether.
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nameless
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by nameless on Jan 20, 2021 18:00:43 GMT 1, People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999% Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether.
the problem is that Mr. B won't send it to you at all if he learns you sold it before receiving the COA.
People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999% Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether. the problem is that Mr. B won't send it to you at all if he learns you sold it before receiving the COA.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by wakeskater on Jan 21, 2021 0:25:27 GMT 1, People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999% Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether. the problem is that Mr. B won't send it to you at all if he learns you sold it before receiving the COA.
Youโre a little off with this thinking. Plenty of people sold their Sale Ends V.2 before COAs went out and the second owners were able to obtain a COA.
People get hung up on COAs... if there's provenance, shown to the auction house then it's legit 99.999% Buying from a bloke in a pub without a COA is another matter altogether. the problem is that Mr. B won't send it to you at all if he learns you sold it before receiving the COA. Youโre a little off with this thinking. Plenty of people sold their Sale Ends V.2 before COAs went out and the second owners were able to obtain a COA.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by The Italian One on Jan 22, 2021 8:38:19 GMT 1, Someone who owns a box set tell me if this looks legit? Seller hasn't answered my question about having any additional provenance other than receipt pictured. They've got another WOH piece listed, with different dates on each receipt. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274469326428I don't want to drop ยฃ1200 on a fake thanks 100% legit
Someone who owns a box set tell me if this looks legit? Seller hasn't answered my question about having any additional provenance other than receipt pictured. They've got another WOH piece listed, with different dates on each receipt. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274469326428I don't want to drop ยฃ1200 on a fake thanks 100% legit
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