Richy Rich
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Richy Rich on Feb 13, 2021 17:27:26 GMT 1,
Apparently it went for £33k inc fees (so seller would have got around £25k) Not the best of results but that’s quite often the case with auctions that only have one or two B pieces in them it seems. Must be close between Flags/WSM/TM and BME for the cheapest entry level print unless any others are cheaper?
Apparently it went for £33k inc fees (so seller would have got around £25k) Not the best of results but that’s quite often the case with auctions that only have one or two B pieces in them it seems. Must be close between Flags/WSM/TM and BME for the cheapest entry level print unless any others are cheaper? |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Random Ginger Bloke on Feb 13, 2021 17:28:24 GMT 1, Insurance time coming up, anyone got insights for what I should value an unsigned flying copper at? *not for sale* Not sure if they will accept banksyvalue.com analysis or what anyone says on here as an indication of accurate market value. Its more of a concern for them (the specialist) to do their due diligence in terms of valuation as it is yours. You would need to go off something more official than what someone says in an online post. What was the previous premium? I personally use Hiscox but I cant recommend (Yay or nay) as the proof is always in the pudding and touch wood Ive never had to make a claim.
Insurance time coming up, anyone got insights for what I should value an unsigned flying copper at? *not for sale* Not sure if they will accept banksyvalue.com analysis or what anyone says on here as an indication of accurate market value. Its more of a concern for them (the specialist) to do their due diligence in terms of valuation as it is yours. You would need to go off something more official than what someone says in an online post. What was the previous premium? I personally use Hiscox but I cant recommend (Yay or nay) as the proof is always in the pudding and touch wood Ive never had to make a claim. Yeah I’m already with Hiscox and someone on here has reached out to use Corum James for valuation as they had same print valued last month with them and was accepted by Hiscox |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by irl1 on Feb 13, 2021 17:32:38 GMT 1,
All Christies, Sotheby's and Phillips realised prices include fees
All Christies, Sotheby's and Phillips realised prices include fees |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 19:46:32 GMT 1, Apparently it went for £33k inc fees (so seller would have got around £25k) Not the best of results but that’s quite often the case with auctions that only have one or two B pieces in them it seems. Must be close between Flags/WSM/TM and Bomb Middle England for the cheapest entry level print unless any others are cheaper? I think that's right re the four entry-level ones. I never understood why Bomb Middle England was underrated - it's a classic early image. WSM for me isn't as nice cause the colours dont pop the same way. TM is another classic image, but not so wall-friendly (see also Napalm).
BME is a real classic
Apparently it went for £33k inc fees (so seller would have got around £25k) Not the best of results but that’s quite often the case with auctions that only have one or two B pieces in them it seems. Must be close between Flags/WSM/TM and Bomb Middle England for the cheapest entry level print unless any others are cheaper? I think that's right re the four entry-level ones. I never understood why Bomb Middle England was underrated - it's a classic early image. WSM for me isn't as nice cause the colours dont pop the same way. TM is another classic image, but not so wall-friendly (see also Napalm). BME is a real classic |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Lunch Special on Feb 16, 2021 19:13:31 GMT 1, IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME
PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K?
WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO?
IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME
PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K?
WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by sharpywesley on Feb 23, 2021 12:12:55 GMT 1, Hi I’m trying to get a valuation for my Banksy GFP Rat Clock for insurance purposes - can anyone recommend someone? Many thanks
Hi I’m trying to get a valuation for my Banksy GFP Rat Clock for insurance purposes - can anyone recommend someone? Many thanks
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singerstu
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by singerstu on Feb 23, 2021 15:33:37 GMT 1, Hi I’m trying to get a valuation for my Banksy GFP Rat Clock for insurance purposes - can anyone recommend someone? Many thanks
From what I have seen on here thay are £150-160k so maybe £175k for insurance.
However whether one had ever been sold or thats just pure speculation I don't know.
Hi I’m trying to get a valuation for my Banksy GFP Rat Clock for insurance purposes - can anyone recommend someone? Many thanks If your insurers are happy check out valuemystuff.com From what I have seen on here thay are £150-160k so maybe £175k for insurance. However whether one had ever been sold or thats just pure speculation I don't know. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Lunch Special on Feb 23, 2021 19:51:57 GMT 1, IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K? WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO?
Anyone?
Dm me I’m almost ready to sell to save myself from utter disaster.
IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K? WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO? Anyone? Dm me I’m almost ready to sell to save myself from utter disaster. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by iforgot my username on Feb 23, 2021 20:03:58 GMT 1, IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K? WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO? Anyone? Dm me I’m almost ready to sell to save myself from utter disaster.
IFTL UNSIGNED - COA IN HAND IN MY NAME PRIVATE SALE JUST GOT OFFERED $K? WHATS THE RIGHT PRICE TO LET THIS GO? Anyone? Dm me I’m almost ready to sell to save myself from utter disaster. $15K? |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Quinnster on Feb 23, 2021 22:17:57 GMT 1, Looking for price guide for unsigned Turf War and unsigned Toxic Mary.
Possibly looking to sell soon.
Looking for price guide for unsigned Turf War and unsigned Toxic Mary.
Possibly looking to sell soon.
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kentkid
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by kentkid on Feb 25, 2021 9:30:33 GMT 1, Anyone have hints as to how to distinguish between a fake and authentic? Does Banksy sometimes reverse his stencils (eg. rat looking left versus right). Are the stencil outlines sometimes a bit fuzzy or lacking in detail?
The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them.
pestcontroloffice.com/faq.asp
Hope this helps,
KentKid
Anyone have hints as to how to distinguish between a fake and authentic? Does Banksy sometimes reverse his stencils (eg. rat looking left versus right). Are the stencil outlines sometimes a bit fuzzy or lacking in detail? Hi Chcklst, The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them. pestcontroloffice.com/faq.aspHope this helps, KentKid |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by chcklst on Feb 28, 2021 10:19:04 GMT 1, Anyone have hints as to how to distinguish between a fake and authentic? Does Banksy sometimes reverse his stencils (eg. rat looking left versus right). Are the stencil outlines sometimes a bit fuzzy or lacking in detail? Hi Chcklst, The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them. pestcontroloffice.com/faq.aspHope this helps, KentKid
Many thanks. A piece I had in mind just sold at auction. It was a graffitied road sign, so no COA or Pest Control verification possible. Cheers
Anyone have hints as to how to distinguish between a fake and authentic? Does Banksy sometimes reverse his stencils (eg. rat looking left versus right). Are the stencil outlines sometimes a bit fuzzy or lacking in detail? Hi Chcklst, The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them. pestcontroloffice.com/faq.aspHope this helps, KentKid Many thanks. A piece I had in mind just sold at auction. It was a graffitied road sign, so no COA or Pest Control verification possible. Cheers |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Happy Shopper on Feb 28, 2021 10:34:30 GMT 1, Hi Chcklst, The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them. pestcontroloffice.com/faq.aspHope this helps, KentKid Many thanks. A piece I had in mind just sold at auction. It was a graffitied road sign, so no COA or Pest Control verification possible. Cheers
Very, very unlikely to be real.
I’d only trust a piece like this if it featured in one of banksy’s books, and matched perfectly!
Hi Chcklst, The best way to check whether the piece you’re looking at is authentic or fake is to make sure it has been verified by Pest Control and comes with a Certificate Of Authenticity (COA) issued by them. pestcontroloffice.com/faq.aspHope this helps, KentKid Many thanks. A piece I had in mind just sold at auction. It was a graffitied road sign, so no COA or Pest Control verification possible. Cheers Very, very unlikely to be real. I’d only trust a piece like this if it featured in one of banksy’s books, and matched perfectly! |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by fusion0001 on Mar 1, 2021 11:59:51 GMT 1, I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at.
- Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "GWB index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a GWB unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a GWB index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a GWB unsigned)
- GWB index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs GWB as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore.
I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at. - Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "GWB index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a GWB unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a GWB index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a GWB unsigned)
- GWB index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs GWB as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by lv90210 on Mar 1, 2021 12:31:18 GMT 1, I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at. - Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "Girl With Balloon index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a Girl With Balloon unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a Girl With Balloon index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a Girl With Balloon unsigned)
- Girl With Balloon index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs Girl With Balloon as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore.
I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at. - Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "Girl With Balloon index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a Girl With Balloon unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a Girl With Balloon index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a Girl With Balloon unsigned)
- Girl With Balloon index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs Girl With Balloon as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore. Brilliant, well done. Liquidity on the originals will make it very hard though. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Wendero on Mar 1, 2021 12:48:56 GMT 1, I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at. - Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "Girl With Balloon index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a Girl With Balloon unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a Girl With Balloon index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a Girl With Balloon unsigned)
- Girl With Balloon index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs Girl With Balloon as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore.
I have spent a good amount of time during last few weeks gathering originals pricing data and put together a beta version of originals value tracker banksy-value.com/index_OG.php. A few caveats / things to look at. - Current focus is on somewhat comparable originals and editions on canvas
- Automatically calculated values seem to be quite off for quite a few of them given low volumes at auction. I am still trying to work out the best algorithm, but if it does not work might need to throw in some manual adjustments or have only the data
- There is a "Girl With Balloon index" for each sale which measures relative value of the piece to a price of a Girl With Balloon unsigned on that date (from my prints value tracker), so you can get a feel for the value (e.g. for Able Lincoln sale in Nov 2018 the absolute price of 158k is less helpful for a valuation today compared to a Girl With Balloon index of 2.8, meaning it was valued at 2.8x the value of a Girl With Balloon unsigned)
- Girl With Balloon index is also monitored over long-term showing how originals perform vs Girl With Balloon as an indicator of more stable prints
- When you click individual artworks you can also see images of the actual pieces
I am guessing this will be a bit less helpful than Banksy Print Value for buying/selling given smaller volumes and much less precise valuations, but I thought it would be still cool to publish for people to browse around and explore. only the sculptures are missing and it is complete, nice work |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by therivler1 on Mar 1, 2021 14:30:15 GMT 1, doing the lords work fusion0001. Thanks.
doing the lords work fusion0001. Thanks.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by lesw on Mar 1, 2021 16:36:18 GMT 1, Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control?
Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies.
As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply:
"We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication."
I asked for an explanation and got this:
"A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them."
I have sent a response:
"I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ...
Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid?
Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work?
And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?"
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Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)!
Thanks.
Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control?
Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies.
As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply:
"We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication."
I asked for an explanation and got this:
"A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them."
I have sent a response:
"I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ...
Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid?
Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work?
And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?"
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Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)!
Thanks.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by buffin on Mar 1, 2021 16:48:13 GMT 1, Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks.
No problems with Pest Control. They don’t authenticate record covers, posters or fridge magnets.
Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks. No problems with Pest Control. They don’t authenticate record covers, posters or fridge magnets. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Lazarus II on Mar 1, 2021 17:15:01 GMT 1, Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks.
Sounds like your provenance will be as good as anyone elses who has sold them for a sizeable sum, nobody will have had a PC COA for them from what you describe.
Have a go at selling them, you dont have anything to lose being that you were given them as promo’s, presumably for nowt.
Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks. Sounds like your provenance will be as good as anyone elses who has sold them for a sizeable sum, nobody will have had a PC COA for them from what you describe. Have a go at selling them, you dont have anything to lose being that you were given them as promo’s, presumably for nowt. |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by hnkpnk on Mar 1, 2021 19:51:03 GMT 1, Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks.
Edit: yes it is hand sprayed, it’s not a print.
Has anyone else had the following 'problem' with Pest Control? Recently I was going through my vinyl record collection to find items I no longer want. In the late 90s / early 00s I used to receive a lot of promos, and many of those I am deciding to sell are promos from that era. I found that I have a copy of the Capoeira Twins '4x3' from that time, which I thought nothing about (other than that it's not a very good record!) until I looked on Discogs to see what price to list it at - and I had a shock! The sleeve is a Banksy print, originally done in an issue of 100 copies. As there are apparently fakes of this about, i got in touch with Pest Control to find out how to get it authenticated, but got this in reply: "We cannot authenticate or validate the work you have submitted, therefore would not be eligible for a Certificate of Authentication." I asked for an explanation and got this: "A record sleeve wasn’t intended as a ‘work of art’, there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." I have sent a response: "I am very disappointed with your reply, as I know I have a genuine print and am reluctant to try to sell it without authentication. A couple of galleries that sell Banksy prints have suggested I try you again, so here goes ... Why is a Banksy 100-edition print on a record sleeve not "... intended as a 'work of art' ..." yet a limited-edition print on a piece of paper, which was not 'intended' to be made into a saleable work of art, considered valid? In what way are record sleeves inferior? Would a Banksy original on a record sleeve also be invalid? If not, why is a print invalid? Why is an artist's 'intention' at the time of making a print relevant to the subsequent authenticity of his work? And as for "... there are also lots of fakes in circulation so we are not able to validate them." - isn't that the whole purpose of your existence?" ---------------------------------------------------- Has anyone any comments or suggestions as to how I should proceed please? Originals of this seem to have been selling for £4,600 up to £6,500, and I could really do with the money (which is why I was selling some records in the first place)! Thanks. Banksy/PC doesn’t owe you anything. Be glad that you have a hand sprayed record sleeve by him. And yes, I have one too. Edit: yes it is hand sprayed, it’s not a print. |
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sm1tch
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by sm1tch on Mar 5, 2021 11:59:22 GMT 1, Hi everyone,
New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions.
I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student
I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA?
Hi everyone,
New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions.
I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student
I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Graham H on Mar 5, 2021 12:04:09 GMT 1, What a great thing to win..
Hold on to your hats for a massive debate ( again ) on value and if these will get a COA..
Good luck whatever the outcome!
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Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA?
What a great thing to win.. Hold on to your hats for a massive debate ( again ) on value and if these will get a COA.. Good luck whatever the outcome! G Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA? |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Deleted on Mar 5, 2021 12:10:42 GMT 1, Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA?
Keep your eye on this auction:
www.tateward.com/auction/lot/lot-209---banksy-british-1974--cushions-2019/?lot=7844&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=48&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=96&pn=3&g=1
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Wendero on Mar 5, 2021 12:13:48 GMT 1, Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA?
Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA? Will NO COA for Cushions |
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sm1tch
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by sm1tch on Mar 5, 2021 12:17:01 GMT 1, Thanks for info grahamh! And thanks for this link yorky, appreciated - I'll keep an eye on it
Jesus Christ I am blown away by that estimate... I would've been happy with £1000 for them hahah - I remember at the time when I won them that the £150 was a bit steep for me
I know an estimate is only an estimate but that would be a life-changing amount of money
Part of me wants to keep them and never let an art dealer get their hands on them but I also am just an ordinary working class girl - I like to think Banksy would like if I got a decent amount of money from them hahah
Thanks for info grahamh! And thanks for this link yorky, appreciated - I'll keep an eye on it
Jesus Christ I am blown away by that estimate... I would've been happy with £1000 for them hahah - I remember at the time when I won them that the £150 was a bit steep for me
I know an estimate is only an estimate but that would be a life-changing amount of money
Part of me wants to keep them and never let an art dealer get their hands on them but I also am just an ordinary working class girl - I like to think Banksy would like if I got a decent amount of money from them hahah
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by sm1tch on Mar 5, 2021 12:19:31 GMT 1, Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA? Will NO COA for Cushions
Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued?
Hi everyone, New to this forum, hoping someone can help me with a rough value for GDP cushions. I can't lie, I'm not crazily into art and I randomly applied to buy the cushions after going to the GDP shop in Croydon thinking I'd never get chosen but somehow I did. Still quite shocked that I have a Banksy - I'm just an ordinary poor student I won't get the COA until November. Can anyone give me a rough figure for what they'll be worth once I have the COA? Will NO COA for Cushions Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued? |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Wendero on Mar 5, 2021 12:26:40 GMT 1, Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued?
Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued? For unlimited items no COA , ask also to info@pestcontroloffice.com |
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by sm1tch on Mar 5, 2021 12:30:48 GMT 1, Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued? For unlimited items no COA , ask also to info@pestcontroloffice.com
Thanks for your help!
Really? When I purchased them I was told I would receive a COA 2 years after the purchase date which will be November this year - have they said since then that no COAs will be issued? For unlimited items no COA , ask also to info@pestcontroloffice.com Ok no worries - I've emailed the sales team at GDP so will see if I get a reply. If not I will email the address you mentioned Thanks for your help! |
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