illu
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How do you feel?, by illu on Apr 29, 2015 23:08:35 GMT 1, Hey,
I felt the need to share my thoughts. I really loved to log into this forum for quite a few years. I enjoyed it every time, had good laughs, read interesting Info about known and unknown artists, learned a lot and had great conversations with a lot of really good guys. Even if I haven't met most of them in person, it felt like a group of open minded people I'd love to spent some free time with. But during the last weeks / months, there are some bad vibes crawling up my spine. Words like, banned, control, warning, guardian, made a very sore impression to me. Where is the fun, where is the love, where is the community? Maybe I'm too sensitiv, cause the history of my country made me like this, but I think, every time when people gain power and are starting to control each other, some evil things are going to happen.... (sorry for any mistakes or missunderstandings....feel free to pm and lebt me know)
I'll end this with a statement by a guy we all on here find hmmm good.....think about it ?!?
Hey, I felt the need to share my thoughts. I really loved to log into this forum for quite a few years. I enjoyed it every time, had good laughs, read interesting Info about known and unknown artists, learned a lot and had great conversations with a lot of really good guys. Even if I haven't met most of them in person, it felt like a group of open minded people I'd love to spent some free time with. But during the last weeks / months, there are some bad vibes crawling up my spine. Words like, banned, control, warning, guardian, made a very sore impression to me. Where is the fun, where is the love, where is the community? Maybe I'm too sensitiv, cause the history of my country made me like this, but I think, every time when people gain power and are starting to control each other, some evil things are going to happen.... (sorry for any mistakes or missunderstandings....feel free to pm and lebt me know) I'll end this with a statement by a guy we all on here find hmmm good.....think about it ?!?
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tommyb
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How do you feel?, by tommyb on Apr 29, 2015 23:46:15 GMT 1, I am totally with you on this one, I used to look at this site frequently everyday, I didn't make a great deal of posts but it always made for an entertaining read, it was full of good folks always ready to offer help and advice. I find the good guys are starting to thin out on here and that the enforcement of forum rules are pushing them away, the vast majority of people who use this forum are grown adults with a fine understanding of what is a responsible or moral thing to post, the rules and guardian thing is greatly patronising in my view.
I am totally with you on this one, I used to look at this site frequently everyday, I didn't make a great deal of posts but it always made for an entertaining read, it was full of good folks always ready to offer help and advice. I find the good guys are starting to thin out on here and that the enforcement of forum rules are pushing them away, the vast majority of people who use this forum are grown adults with a fine understanding of what is a responsible or moral thing to post, the rules and guardian thing is greatly patronising in my view.
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darwin
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How do you feel?, by darwin on Apr 29, 2015 23:48:10 GMT 1, For the love of god I just wish they'd bring back the 'New' button
For the love of god I just wish they'd bring back the 'New' button
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trax51
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How do you feel?, by trax51 on Apr 29, 2015 23:50:44 GMT 1, I feel good Thank you. ;-)
I feel good Thank you. ;-)
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Shoot Again
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How do you feel?, by Shoot Again on Apr 29, 2015 23:53:31 GMT 1, We used to have one great Banksy Forum, we have now two rather average ones :-(
We used to have one great Banksy Forum, we have now two rather average ones :-(
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11
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How do you feel?, by 11 on Apr 30, 2015 0:00:51 GMT 1, I hope you don't mind me offering my view.....
For a while, tensions had been rising and there were lots of comments about negative behaviour, members goading each other and personal abuse - and people called for more mods to calm things down. I guess things came to a head with some members being banned and, in-turn affected a number of other members as, after all, we are (still) all friends on here.
While some felt they were treated unfairly others made a very conscious effort to disrupt the forum for everyone.
I like to think I've always been an active and positive contributor (but know I've had my moments too) so stood back while this was going on. I had the very same sentiments as you and didn't know what to do. I came back to the forum after a few days away and things were still rumbling on - that was when i decided to volunteer as a mod....or guardian.
It wasn't to control things, it was to try and encourage a more positive environment and lead by example, participating and contributing towards rebuilding that community spirit.
I love this place too - and i genuinely want this to become about the love of art again. There have been some unhappy people but there are also many members on here that are still here, and more join every day for the love of art. By pulling together and getting back to what we all enjoy we will stimulate a whole new string of discussions and debates as well as welcoming new members and sharing the pleasure and knowledge with them too
....and who knows, sometimes new members could just so easily be old members coming back to say hello
I hope you don't mind me offering my view..... For a while, tensions had been rising and there were lots of comments about negative behaviour, members goading each other and personal abuse - and people called for more mods to calm things down. I guess things came to a head with some members being banned and, in-turn affected a number of other members as, after all, we are (still) all friends on here. While some felt they were treated unfairly others made a very conscious effort to disrupt the forum for everyone. I like to think I've always been an active and positive contributor (but know I've had my moments too) so stood back while this was going on. I had the very same sentiments as you and didn't know what to do. I came back to the forum after a few days away and things were still rumbling on - that was when i decided to volunteer as a mod....or guardian. It wasn't to control things, it was to try and encourage a more positive environment and lead by example, participating and contributing towards rebuilding that community spirit. I love this place too - and i genuinely want this to become about the love of art again. There have been some unhappy people but there are also many members on here that are still here, and more join every day for the love of art. By pulling together and getting back to what we all enjoy we will stimulate a whole new string of discussions and debates as well as welcoming new members and sharing the pleasure and knowledge with them too ....and who knows, sometimes new members could just so easily be old members coming back to say hello
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bomber88
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How do you feel?, by bomber88 on Apr 30, 2015 0:10:49 GMT 1, I have always taken a back seat with this forum over the last few years as it always seemed that there was always someone better, and well informed than I and any comment I had to make seemed rather pointless. However I would like to suggest that street / graffiti art is essentially anti rule and any authoritarian stance would always result in a kick-back. Personally I feel the laughter just died a little. I love the forum but miss the fun. I hope it's not a Stanford Prison experiment. Time will tell.
I have always taken a back seat with this forum over the last few years as it always seemed that there was always someone better, and well informed than I and any comment I had to make seemed rather pointless. However I would like to suggest that street / graffiti art is essentially anti rule and any authoritarian stance would always result in a kick-back. Personally I feel the laughter just died a little. I love the forum but miss the fun. I hope it's not a Stanford Prison experiment. Time will tell.
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dreadnatty
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How do you feel?, by dreadnatty on Apr 30, 2015 0:52:49 GMT 1, I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better.
I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better.
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on Apr 30, 2015 7:57:03 GMT 1, I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better. thats what I said : I know a lot of amazing collectors ( you even can't imagine what they nailed on their walls at home ! ) or art lovers etc .. They are coming here to buy, to read about, as some other people read newspapers or enjoy going to a website and learn or laugh, etc.. Are these unknowns persons , wrong ? Not at all, just a bit anonymous, and they can regret now " the good all time ".
I agree with this illu thread, now , when I come here I feel paranoiac, I feel the fear, police , jails, censorship , rules, etc ( ok you could answer me - not you Dreadnatty :-) - to go to see outside if hens collect singed eggs 's cardboard boxes ... Just, I remember Lonelyfarmer alias Wiz opening a thread on the Sex Pistols, I remember some of you taliking here about activism ( because of Banksy ) , rebellion, riot, punk, music... Etc... Is conformism the main world now here ? I still hear the laugh and friendships of before on this forum. Now, it looks like a desert sometimes, almost all when supposed blokes blocks...
Thank you for this thread anonymous lovers of this forum ( a forum is not the act of one and only person - otherwise he could open a blog for himself - but a community ( if there was some problems, just see with the guys ) . Hey, I can see and read posts now of a boss, that I did not see before, since I login here !
I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better. thats what I said : I know a lot of amazing collectors ( you even can't imagine what they nailed on their walls at home ! ) or art lovers etc .. They are coming here to buy, to read about, as some other people read newspapers or enjoy going to a website and learn or laugh, etc.. Are these unknowns persons , wrong ? Not at all, just a bit anonymous, and they can regret now " the good all time ". I agree with this illu thread, now , when I come here I feel paranoiac, I feel the fear, police , jails, censorship , rules, etc ( ok you could answer me - not you Dreadnatty :-) - to go to see outside if hens collect singed eggs 's cardboard boxes ... Just, I remember Lonelyfarmer alias Wiz opening a thread on the Sex Pistols, I remember some of you taliking here about activism ( because of Banksy ) , rebellion, riot, punk, music... Etc... Is conformism the main world now here ? I still hear the laugh and friendships of before on this forum. Now, it looks like a desert sometimes, almost all when supposed blokes blocks... Thank you for this thread anonymous lovers of this forum ( a forum is not the act of one and only person - otherwise he could open a blog for himself - but a community ( if there was some problems, just see with the guys ) . Hey, I can see and read posts now of a boss, that I did not see before, since I login here !
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How do you feel?, by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 8:08:15 GMT 1, Its just easier to say nothing.
oh shit, i just blew that didn't i
Its just easier to say nothing.
oh shit, i just blew that didn't i
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on Apr 30, 2015 8:52:57 GMT 1, I just have a fabulous ( lol humility ) and genius ( double lol ) idea !! As in two parallel worlds ( upside/down ) , why to don't put on link in the list threads on the top , between " messages " and " logout " , the " name of the other forum " where some friends and memebers has gone ? The Hell and the paradise, the comic theatre and the serious deal, the Divine Comedy and the Guardian ( the newpaper - I did not say that the other forum was theMirror or the Sun, lol ) , the Magic and the Real, the Wrong and the Right, etc....
It could be peacefull, smart, and great ! As this, everybody will find everything with only one link !!! A kind of B&B or YMCA having a location in a Bruce Wayne ' s mansion or pension... Good or not ?
I just have a fabulous ( lol humility ) and genius ( double lol ) idea !! As in two parallel worlds ( upside/down ) , why to don't put on link in the list threads on the top , between " messages " and " logout " , the " name of the other forum " where some friends and memebers has gone ? The Hell and the paradise, the comic theatre and the serious deal, the Divine Comedy and the Guardian ( the newpaper - I did not say that the other forum was theMirror or the Sun, lol ) , the Magic and the Real, the Wrong and the Right, etc....
It could be peacefull, smart, and great ! As this, everybody will find everything with only one link !!! A kind of B&B or YMCA having a location in a Bruce Wayne ' s mansion or pension... Good or not ?
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skitchy
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How do you feel?, by skitchy on Apr 30, 2015 10:28:30 GMT 1, #streetartisdead
#streetartisdead
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illu
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How do you feel?, by illu on Apr 30, 2015 12:14:07 GMT 1, @11 no offence taken...
@11 no offence taken...
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illu
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How do you feel?, by illu on Apr 30, 2015 12:24:27 GMT 1, thank you for your answers on this thread so far...... a picture says more than bla bla....you know what I mean for me personally it is often easier to express my thoughts using a pic, so this was another one which popped up in my mind, if anybody would ask me about how I feel when I visit this place at the moment
thank you for your answers on this thread so far...... a picture says more than bla bla....you know what I mean for me personally it is often easier to express my thoughts using a pic, so this was another one which popped up in my mind, if anybody would ask me about how I feel when I visit this place at the moment
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on Apr 30, 2015 12:36:37 GMT 1, You are great @illu
You are great @illu
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illu
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How do you feel?, by illu on Apr 30, 2015 13:04:11 GMT 1, appreciated
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How do you feel?, by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 18:29:40 GMT 1, My view is that people should only be banned as a last resort.
It's easy to make a coment whch is offensive to some.
I have never blocked anyone and never wanted anyone banned.
It might have been better to appoint moderators who if notified about bad behaviour or posts.
Give a warning and three warnings gets a ban or suspend someone for a month.
My view is that people should only be banned as a last resort.
It's easy to make a coment whch is offensive to some.
I have never blocked anyone and never wanted anyone banned.
It might have been better to appoint moderators who if notified about bad behaviour or posts.
Give a warning and three warnings gets a ban or suspend someone for a month.
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dreadnatty
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How do you feel?, by dreadnatty on Apr 30, 2015 19:51:21 GMT 1, I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better. thats what I said : I know a lot of amazing collectors ( you even can't imagine what they nailed on their walls at home ! ) or art lovers etc .. They are coming here to buy, to read about, as some other people read newspapers or enjoy going to a website and learn or laugh, etc.. Are these unknowns persons , wrong ? Not at all, just a bit anonymous, and they can regret now " the good all time ". I agree with this illu thread, now , when I come here I feel paranoiac, I feel the fear, police , jails, censorship , rules, etc ( ok you could answer me - not you Dreadnatty :-) - to go to see outside if hens collect singed eggs 's cardboard boxes ... Just, I remember Lonelyfarmer alias Wiz opening a thread on the Sex Pistols, I remember some of you taliking here about activism ( because of Banksy ) , rebellion, riot, punk, music... Etc... Is conformism the main world now here ? I still hear the laugh and friendships of before on this forum. Now, it looks like a desert sometimes, almost all when supposed blokes blocks... Thank you for this thread anonymous lovers of this forum ( a forum is not the act of one and only person - otherwise he could open a blog for himself - but a community ( if there was some problems, just see with the guys ) . Hey, I can see and read posts now of a boss, that I did not see before, since I login here ! I have no problem with people coming here to read/stay anonymous. I do however think its disingenuous when those people come out of the woodwork and complain about the atmosphere while not contributing to it.
I see a bunch of posts from members who are here but haven't posted/contributed for whatever reason. I would suggest that you guys get a bit more involved as this place is only as good as the people that contribute - the more the better. thats what I said : I know a lot of amazing collectors ( you even can't imagine what they nailed on their walls at home ! ) or art lovers etc .. They are coming here to buy, to read about, as some other people read newspapers or enjoy going to a website and learn or laugh, etc.. Are these unknowns persons , wrong ? Not at all, just a bit anonymous, and they can regret now " the good all time ". I agree with this illu thread, now , when I come here I feel paranoiac, I feel the fear, police , jails, censorship , rules, etc ( ok you could answer me - not you Dreadnatty :-) - to go to see outside if hens collect singed eggs 's cardboard boxes ... Just, I remember Lonelyfarmer alias Wiz opening a thread on the Sex Pistols, I remember some of you taliking here about activism ( because of Banksy ) , rebellion, riot, punk, music... Etc... Is conformism the main world now here ? I still hear the laugh and friendships of before on this forum. Now, it looks like a desert sometimes, almost all when supposed blokes blocks... Thank you for this thread anonymous lovers of this forum ( a forum is not the act of one and only person - otherwise he could open a blog for himself - but a community ( if there was some problems, just see with the guys ) . Hey, I can see and read posts now of a boss, that I did not see before, since I login here ! I have no problem with people coming here to read/stay anonymous. I do however think its disingenuous when those people come out of the woodwork and complain about the atmosphere while not contributing to it.
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on Apr 30, 2015 21:48:14 GMT 1, Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty .
Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty .
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dreadnatty
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How do you feel?, by dreadnatty on Apr 30, 2015 22:05:52 GMT 1, Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty . Anytime R. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need an answer or if you would just like to chat
PS why would anybody block you? You are awesome
Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty . Anytime R. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need an answer or if you would just like to chat PS why would anybody block you? You are awesome
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on Apr 30, 2015 22:11:45 GMT 1, Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty . Anytime R. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need an answer or if you would just like to chat PS why would anybody block you? You are awesome i will pm you later on. My computer is dead yesterday night , my washing machine two months ago, well this year is weird.. . Cheers ! :-)
Thank you for you answer Deeadnatty . Anytime R. Feel free to PM me anytime if you need an answer or if you would just like to chat PS why would anybody block you? You are awesome i will pm you later on. My computer is dead yesterday night , my washing machine two months ago, well this year is weird.. . Cheers ! :-)
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curiousgeorge
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How do you feel?, by curiousgeorge on May 1, 2015 3:08:01 GMT 1, Curbed
Curbed
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How do you feel?, by Lroy on May 1, 2015 7:56:26 GMT 1, thats the world. I wonder if there is not another forum ( not the one we have talked ) in this forum ? With exchanges only between selected members... I guess ( I maintain ) that 80 % blocked me or others who dobt want to quit the ship ... I say Captain , you say wot ?
thats the world. I wonder if there is not another forum ( not the one we have talked ) in this forum ? With exchanges only between selected members... I guess ( I maintain ) that 80 % blocked me or others who dobt want to quit the ship ... I say Captain , you say wot ?
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illu
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How do you feel?, by illu on May 1, 2015 11:06:23 GMT 1,
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How do you feel?, by Deleted on May 1, 2015 11:18:19 GMT 1, so are forum guardians like school prefects or teachers pets?
so are forum guardians like school prefects or teachers pets?
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Cornish Crayon
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How do you feel?, by Cornish Crayon on May 1, 2015 11:57:48 GMT 1, so are forum guardians like school prefects or teachers pets?
Where I grew up these didn't exist but I am lead to believe the come under the same category ...........
I'm not mentally stable enough to qualify as a pet.
so are forum guardians like school prefects or teachers pets? Where I grew up these didn't exist but I am lead to believe the come under the same category ........... I'm not mentally stable enough to qualify as a pet.
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