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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by rosac on Nov 9, 2016 17:08:21 GMT 1, They are screen prints Price didn't print of paintings he didn't paint of badges he didn't create. This is the second or third time that I've seen someone comment about his work not being his. Are you able to elaborate at all?
Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful
They are screen prints Price didn't print of paintings he didn't paint of badges he didn't create. This is the second or third time that I've seen someone comment about his work not being his. Are you able to elaborate at all? Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by vernaxley on Nov 10, 2016 12:56:53 GMT 1, This is the second or third time that I've seen someone comment about his work not being his. Are you able to elaborate at all? Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful
As is selling work you didn't create but pretended you did.
This is the second or third time that I've seen someone comment about his work not being his. Are you able to elaborate at all? Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful As is selling work you didn't create but pretended you did. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Nov 10, 2016 20:44:06 GMT 1, Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful As is selling work you didn't create but pretended you did.
If you've got proof of that, I'm sure everyone here would love to see it.
Accusations are rubbish and disrespectful As is selling work you didn't create but pretended you did. If you've got proof of that, I'm sure everyone here would love to see it. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by sugar72 on Nov 10, 2016 21:17:43 GMT 1, Here we go!!
Here we go!!
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Dice on Nov 11, 2016 8:06:21 GMT 1, The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care.
The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care.
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by thomasmer on Nov 11, 2016 9:31:15 GMT 1, Think Banksy painted Monkey Parliment, not a chance.
Think Banksy painted Monkey Parliment, not a chance.
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by rosac on Nov 11, 2016 11:11:13 GMT 1, Think Banksy painted Monkey Parliment, not a chance.
How are you say the B word in vain 
Think Banksy painted Monkey Parliment, not a chance. How are you say the B word in vain |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Nov 11, 2016 21:34:05 GMT 1, The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care.
Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me.
The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care. Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Harveyn on Nov 11, 2016 21:43:32 GMT 1, The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care. Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me.
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
The usual argument is that Jeff koons doesn't paint his own pictures and nor does damien hirst so why should Lucas price, right? The Connor brothers clearly don't paint their own work (and I'm really not a fan think it's all a con) but nobody seems to care. Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me.
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Nov 11, 2016 22:06:56 GMT 1, Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me.
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs."
I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
Neither is trying to sell themselves as photorealist painters, so that particular argument doesn't quite fly for me.
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Harveyn on Nov 11, 2016 22:21:35 GMT 1,
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
I am pretty sure that Lucas sees himself and the images he produces or is responsible for as more than just the delivery of a photorealistic image. The fire extinguisher, basketball and badge imagery are not about painting in a photorealist manner but are more about the composition, message and idea. Photorealism is just the platform not the art.
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Nov 11, 2016 23:15:59 GMT 1, I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Totally agree. I love what Hockney has done with his ipad paintings. His exploration of the new digital medium is something I really appreciate, and seeing how his work has and will continue to evolve within it has made his art that much more engaging for me.
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Totally agree. I love what Hockney has done with his ipad paintings. His exploration of the new digital medium is something I really appreciate, and seeing how his work has and will continue to evolve within it has made his art that much more engaging for me. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 11, 2016 23:31:14 GMT 1, I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable.ย I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists.ย As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise.ย The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).ย
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Nice interview on news here last night Harv. Amazing works and he still paints every day. I have the find a work excuse to fly down for this 
mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/david-hockney-enjoys-creating-artworks-on-his-iphone-and-ipad/8012990?pfmredir=sm
I think you're right, it's not just about the photorealism. But even on Laz's artist page for him, they refer to him as hyperrealist painter, and say he "combines contemporary photo-realism with religious iconography, Renaissance-inspired portraiture and text-based motifs." I just want to know if he actually paints the work. I'd still appreciate the conceptual aspect if he doesn't, it he's employing ghost painters, it would be nice to know.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable.ย I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists.ย As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise.ย The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).ย
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Nice interview on news here last night Harv. Amazing works and he still paints every day. I have the find a work excuse to fly down for this mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/david-hockney-enjoys-creating-artworks-on-his-iphone-and-ipad/8012990?pfmredir=sm |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by vernaxley on Nov 14, 2016 17:19:45 GMT 1,
Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney.
The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work.
Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney.
The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work.
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by nobokov on Nov 14, 2016 17:56:34 GMT 1, Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney. The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work.
This is such a strange thread. I bought the Snoopy one and would love to know your reasons for the attack. I think that accusations backed up with evidence would be helpful for all who are interested. Who are the actual artists and did they sign a NDA or are they sourced from Chinese artist farms?
Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney. The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work. This is such a strange thread. I bought the Snoopy one and would love to know your reasons for the attack. I think that accusations backed up with evidence would be helpful for all who are interested. Who are the actual artists and did they sign a NDA or are they sourced from Chinese artist farms? |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 19:16:29 GMT 1,
Have these been posted out yet?
Have these been posted out yet? |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 19:24:50 GMT 1, Have these been posted out yet?
Last week I think.
Have these been posted out yet? Last week I think. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 21:24:17 GMT 1,
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Nice interview on news here last night Harv. Amazing works and he still paints every day. I have the find a work excuse to fly down for this mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/david-hockney-enjoys-creating-artworks-on-his-iphone-and-ipad/8012990?pfmredir=sm
I read somewhere he uses a "lens based technique" which hyper realist painters sometimes use.
Apparently Hockney in LA portraits stuff way back a long time ago. Used to project the portrait of his sitter onto the canvas to mark out the features and then finish it off freehand. It does give a very good result. His LA portraits are timeless.
I understand and agree that an open approach with respect to these matters is preferable. I am pretty sure he at times uses studio artists. As a huge Faile and Shep fan I am also happy that they do likewise. The idea and the concept is often more important than the delivery.
I would argue that it would be harder to accept that a painting by Lucien Freud was not painted by his hand than the artists that have been highlighted on this thread (Hirst, Koons, Banksy and the list goes on).
In a similar vain I am fascinated and in awe of artists like Hockney who have embraced technology based on the same ethos that art does not always have to be about an artists skill with a paint brush.
Nice interview on news here last night Harv. Amazing works and he still paints every day. I have the find a work excuse to fly down for this mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/david-hockney-enjoys-creating-artworks-on-his-iphone-and-ipad/8012990?pfmredir=sm I read somewhere he uses a "lens based technique" which hyper realist painters sometimes use. Apparently Hockney in LA portraits stuff way back a long time ago. Used to project the portrait of his sitter onto the canvas to mark out the features and then finish it off freehand. It does give a very good result. His LA portraits are timeless. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 21:59:32 GMT 1, Have these been posted out yet? Last week I think.
I received mine today, the quality is unreal.... all for a hundred sheets.... from what I heard not a lot left especially the snoopy for president.... I got a matching set of AP's... very nice.
Have these been posted out yet? Last week I think. I received mine today, the quality is unreal.... all for a hundred sheets.... from what I heard not a lot left especially the snoopy for president.... I got a matching set of AP's... very nice. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 23:06:32 GMT 1, I received mine today, the quality is unreal.... all for a hundred sheets.... from what I heard not a lot left especially the snoopy for president.... I got a matching set of AP's... very nice.
Yes mine had arrived too when I got home.
I received mine today, the quality is unreal.... all for a hundred sheets.... from what I heard not a lot left especially the snoopy for president.... I got a matching set of AP's... very nice. Yes mine had arrived too when I got home. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by thomasmer on Nov 30, 2016 2:55:20 GMT 1, Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney. The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work. This is such a strange thread. I bought the Snoopy one and would love to know your reasons for the attack. I think that accusations backed up with evidence would be helpful for all who are interested. Who are the actual artists and did they sign a NDA or are they sourced from Chinese artist farms?
Chinese artist farms lol
These badges are from the Black Rat show weren't they?
Any attempt to parallel with Koons or Hirst is a desperate swerve as are comparisons with Hockney. The extra layer of conceit here is the artist is now being credited for an astute piece of political commentary he never made or intended. However, congratulations to his now strangely silent gallery on exploiting a dark day in Western history to shift a few images of other people's hard work. This is such a strange thread. I bought the Snoopy one and would love to know your reasons for the attack. I think that accusations backed up with evidence would be helpful for all who are interested. Who are the actual artists and did they sign a NDA or are they sourced from Chinese artist farms? Chinese artist farms lol These badges are from the Black Rat show weren't they? |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Nov 30, 2016 3:38:01 GMT 1, This is such a strange thread. I bought the Snoopy one and would love to know your reasons for the attack. I think that accusations backed up with evidence would be helpful for all who are interested. Who are the actual artists and did they sign a NDA or are they sourced from Chinese artist farms?
These badges are from the Black Rat show weren't they?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2375270/Dafen-Oil-Painting-Village-thousands-artists-recreate-paintings-sale-overseas.html
It's certainly not unheard of...
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by thomasmer on Nov 30, 2016 13:06:48 GMT 1, You're quoting the Daily effing Mail, I'm pretty sure there should be a mandatory 4 week ban for that.
You're quoting the Daily effing Mail, I'm pretty sure there should be a mandatory 4 week ban for that. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Nov 30, 2016 18:04:43 GMT 1, You're quoting the Daily effing Mail, I'm pretty sure there should be a mandatory 4 week ban for that.
You're quoting the Daily effing Mail, I'm pretty sure there should be a mandatory 4 week ban for that. Judging by some of the recent threads on here I'd say that there are plenty Daily Mail readers posting on here |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by thomasmer on Dec 1, 2016 3:59:52 GMT 1, I've seen what comes out of those places, and it wasn't anything like his last Laz show.
I've seen what comes out of those places, and it wasn't anything like his last Laz show. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by rosac on Dec 1, 2016 8:40:59 GMT 1,
Prove it dog
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by WOOF on Dec 1, 2016 9:24:12 GMT 1,
I've already said that I don't have any proof of anything, rather that I'm just curious because I've heard the rumors just like it seems a few others have. The only reason I even posted these links is because thomasmer acted like these sorts of places don't exist, when clearly they do.
I've already said that I don't have any proof of anything, rather that I'm just curious because I've heard the rumors just like it seems a few others have. The only reason I even posted these links is because thomasmer acted like these sorts of places don't exist, when clearly they do. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by rosac on Dec 1, 2016 13:49:18 GMT 1, I've already said that I don't have any proof of anything, rather that I'm just curious because I've heard the rumors just like it seems a few others have. The only reason I even posted these links is because thomasmer acted like these sorts of places don't exist, when clearly they do.
I've already said that I don't have any proof of anything, rather that I'm just curious because I've heard the rumors just like it seems a few others have. The only reason I even posted these links is because thomasmer acted like these sorts of places don't exist, when clearly they do. Ok cool, if the rumours you've heard are from a reputable source then im sure alot of collectors on here would like to know more. If not the i think its unfair on the artist and collectors to spread / encourage rumours. |
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Lucas Price ๐ฌ๐ง Cyclops โข Burning Candy Graffiti Crew, by Deleted on Dec 1, 2016 14:44:46 GMT 1, It's just a Mason Storm in a tea cup.
It's just a Mason Storm in a tea cup.
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