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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by irl1 on Jul 30, 2020 12:45:56 GMT 1, They're up on Enter Gallery. Assume they've been up a while. I'd really like one. Is that a crazy price (ยฃ1640?) Thinking Own Art over 20 months at 0%? Blue one I thinks... Are these the same type? (after) Jeff Koons if they are ยฃ1,640 is way over the top
www.catawiki.com/s/?q=jeff%20koons%20balloon%20dog&sort=relevancy_desc
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by thisisthesam on Jul 30, 2020 13:23:04 GMT 1, Is the Cat Wiki legit? They look the same. Edition of 999.
Is the Cat Wiki legit? They look the same. Edition of 999.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by irl1 on Jul 30, 2020 13:36:46 GMT 1, Is the Cat Wiki legit? They look the same. Edition of 999. They are an auction platform. Just check the feedback on the buyer if your bidding. These come up in catawiki every week so don't go over about โฌ300/โฌ350 for one. If you wait you will get one for that price no problem, best of luck
I also seen this edition of 999 on another site for about $350 but I can't remember the name of it.
DO NOT PAY ยฃ1,650 that's way too much for an after Balloon Dog
Is the Cat Wiki legit? They look the same. Edition of 999. They are an auction platform. Just check the feedback on the buyer if your bidding. These come up in catawiki every week so don't go over about โฌ300/โฌ350 for one. If you wait you will get one for that price no problem, best of luck I also seen this edition of 999 on another site for about $350 but I can't remember the name of it. DO NOT PAY ยฃ1,650 that's way too much for an after Balloon Dog
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Dice on Jul 30, 2020 13:55:32 GMT 1, So much AFTER Jeff Koons stuff around especially on eBay. People are bidding up the rabbits to silly levels. Everything come with letters of authenticity but none of this stuff is authorised by koons i guess
So much AFTER Jeff Koons stuff around especially on eBay. People are bidding up the rabbits to silly levels. Everything come with letters of authenticity but none of this stuff is authorised by koons i guess
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by thisisthesam on Jul 30, 2020 13:57:01 GMT 1, What is AFTER Jeff Koons then?
What is AFTER Jeff Koons then?
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by rbt on Jul 30, 2020 14:15:18 GMT 1, What is AFTER Jeff Koons then?
Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by.
What is AFTER Jeff Koons then? Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Extra Ball on Jul 30, 2020 14:28:26 GMT 1, What is AFTER Jeff Koons then? Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by. After = Fake???
What is AFTER Jeff Koons then? Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by. After = Fake???
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by rbt on Jul 30, 2020 14:37:17 GMT 1, Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by. After = Fake???ย
Yes.
Fake/knock-off/based-on/inspired-by. After = Fake???ย Yes.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Extra Ball on Jul 30, 2020 14:40:10 GMT 1, in general, catawiki should be avoided as a seller and as a buyer. The experts are not (Chrisp, Sperling, Cano Fraile, Doko ...). No art skills or qualifications other than running online galleries. Plus the fees are huge..9% for buyers and 20% for sellers. Catawiki earns 30% of the item's value on each premium item! In addition, fees apply to the price of the item + shipping costs! which is scandalous. They modify the ads without asking you, impossible to contact them ... the list is long. I strongly advise against, bad experience as a buyer.
in general, catawiki should be avoided as a seller and as a buyer. The experts are not (Chrisp, Sperling, Cano Fraile, Doko ...). No art skills or qualifications other than running online galleries. Plus the fees are huge..9% for buyers and 20% for sellers. Catawiki earns 30% of the item's value on each premium item! In addition, fees apply to the price of the item + shipping costs! which is scandalous. They modify the ads without asking you, impossible to contact them ... the list is long. I strongly advise against, bad experience as a buyer.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Extra Ball on Jul 30, 2020 14:41:13 GMT 1, After = Fake??? Yes. ok change nothing, keep it up
After = Fake??? Yes. ok change nothing, keep it up
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by LJCal on Jul 30, 2020 15:17:16 GMT 1, After = Fake??? Yes. No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake.
After = Fake??? Yes. No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by rbt on Jul 30, 2020 15:35:45 GMT 1, No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake.ย
The Nara release does not use โafterโ anywhere to describe the print.
This balloon dog is a fake. Not authorized by Koons.
No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake.ย The Nara release does not use โafterโ anywhere to describe the print. This balloon dog is a fake. Not authorized by Koons.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by LJCal on Jul 30, 2020 15:37:19 GMT 1, No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake. This balloon dog is a fake. Not authorized by Koons. For sure, these aren't even worth ยฃ300.
No that is not correct. There are plenty of authorised after works, plenty of signed after works and they can be worth plenty of money. After simply means it is not an original print or edition, for example the recent Nara release Marching on a Butterbar Leaf is after the orginal but still authorised by the artist. A fake is not an after work it is just a fake. This balloon dog is a fake. Not authorized by Koons. For sure, these aren't even worth ยฃ300.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Extra Ball on Jul 30, 2020 16:41:08 GMT 1, after is something authorized but which cannot be certified, therefore with a lower value. Banksy posters in Bristol, peckham rock postcards, palestine poster. everything is validated by the artist. Fake concerns unauthorized productions like WCP, posters from illegal exhibitions (MOCO Amsterdam ...)
www.banksy.co.uk/shows.asp
So not everything that is after is necessarily fake.
after is something authorized but which cannot be certified, therefore with a lower value. Banksy posters in Bristol, peckham rock postcards, palestine poster. everything is validated by the artist. Fake concerns unauthorized productions like WCP, posters from illegal exhibitions (MOCO Amsterdam ...) www.banksy.co.uk/shows.aspSo not everything that is after is necessarily fake.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by mas on Jul 30, 2020 16:44:14 GMT 1, I think the ones from Edition Studio are cool, I own one, very well done. Maybe today it sells for more than โฌ300/350, I saw lot of them sold for more than โฌ500 but for sure not ยฃ1640. Anyway if somene can pay from โฌ12.000 to โฌ20.000 is still possibile to get the signed genuine
I think the ones from Edition Studio are cool, I own one, very well done. Maybe today it sells for more than โฌ300/350, I saw lot of them sold for more than โฌ500 but for sure not ยฃ1640. Anyway if somene can pay from โฌ12.000 to โฌ20.000 is still possibile to get the signed genuine
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by startimeash on Jul 30, 2020 18:14:19 GMT 1, after is something authorized but which cannot be certified, therefore with a lower value. Banksy posters in Bristol, peckham rock postcards, palestine poster. everything is validated by the artist. Fake concerns unauthorized productions like WCP, posters from illegal exhibitions (MOCO Amsterdam ...) www.banksy.co.uk/shows.aspSo not everything that is after is necessarily fake. Utter nonsense.
'After' simply means in the style of.
This is correct - What do terms like "after", "attributed to", "in the manner of" etc mean next to an artist's name?
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Tax and Shipping on Jul 30, 2020 18:16:55 GMT 1, This thread is mental!
Pls ppl, don't fork out ยฃ1600 for a knockoff balloon dog. Go for the real deal! Koons massively oversaturated the market with them, to the point that they're not selling at primary prices. Rather than paying $11k on the primary market, Phillips have them going with estimates of $4000-6000. ยฃ3.3k for a real one is a far better buy than ยฃ1600 for a fake, even if it is sold as "after", which 95% of the time means it's literally worthless.
This thread is mental!
Pls ppl, don't fork out ยฃ1600 for a knockoff balloon dog. Go for the real deal! Koons massively oversaturated the market with them, to the point that they're not selling at primary prices. Rather than paying $11k on the primary market, Phillips have them going with estimates of $4000-6000. ยฃ3.3k for a real one is a far better buy than ยฃ1600 for a fake, even if it is sold as "after", which 95% of the time means it's literally worthless.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by cropper8686 on Jul 30, 2020 21:34:54 GMT 1, Just do a search on Aliexpress and save yourself a bomb for the same thing.
Just do a search on Aliexpress and save yourself a bomb for the same thing.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by irl1 on Jul 30, 2020 23:39:21 GMT 1, Utter nonsense.
'After' simply means in the style of.
Whilst that's true, different auctions houses seem to use the phrase 'after' in different ways. I have seen Banksy Peckham Rock postcards being labelled as 'After Banksy' and they are clearly authorised by Pest Control and so not fake. You have to use your own judgement and common sense, I guess. Those auction houses are wrong, Peckham Rocks are official Banksy tat or whatever you want to call them.
AFTER means NOT by the artist, but by another artist. They sometimes use after or in the manner of.
After really means copies or as some members say fakes.
Utter nonsense.
'After' simply means in the style of.
Whilst that's true, different auctions houses seem to use the phrase 'after' in different ways. I have seen Banksy Peckham Rock postcards being labelled as 'After Banksy' and they are clearly authorised by Pest Control and so not fake. You have to use your own judgement and common sense, I guess. Those auction houses are wrong, Peckham Rocks are official Banksy tat or whatever you want to call them. AFTER means NOT by the artist, but by another artist. They sometimes use after or in the manner of. After really means copies or as some members say fakes.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by LJCal on Jul 31, 2020 1:01:32 GMT 1, Utter nonsense.
'After' simply means in the style of.
Whilst that's true, different auctions houses seem to use the phrase 'after' in different ways. I have seen Banksy Peckham Rock postcards being labelled as 'After Banksy' and they are clearly authorised by Pest Control and so not fake. You have to use your own judgement and common sense, I guess. These are after the original work (in the British Museum) but authorised by the artist, again after does not necessarily mean fake, it means it is copy, it can be a digital or mechanical copy or by another artist. You get authorised afters which can sometimes even be signed by the original artist and unauthorised ones which the artist has no involvement or interest.
Utter nonsense.
'After' simply means in the style of.
Whilst that's true, different auctions houses seem to use the phrase 'after' in different ways. I have seen Banksy Peckham Rock postcards being labelled as 'After Banksy' and they are clearly authorised by Pest Control and so not fake. You have to use your own judgement and common sense, I guess. These are after the original work (in the British Museum) but authorised by the artist, again after does not necessarily mean fake, it means it is copy, it can be a digital or mechanical copy or by another artist. You get authorised afters which can sometimes even be signed by the original artist and unauthorised ones which the artist has no involvement or interest.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by jp on Jul 31, 2020 1:08:59 GMT 1, I've also seen the term AFTER used to refer to works that have been authorized by the estate of an artist after they have died. So there appear to be many different uses of the term. Regardless, the buyer needs to do their research and be very aware of what they are bidding on / buying.
I've also seen the term AFTER used to refer to works that have been authorized by the estate of an artist after they have died. So there appear to be many different uses of the term. Regardless, the buyer needs to do their research and be very aware of what they are bidding on / buying.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by thisisthesam on Jul 31, 2020 13:27:45 GMT 1, won't bother then. felt legit for price and selling from enter.
won't bother then. felt legit for price and selling from enter.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by dries2018 on Oct 20, 2020 10:28:33 GMT 1, No longer available
No longer available
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 11:00:11 GMT 1, Not a fan of his work but nice to see some Koons on here. Good luck with sale.
Not a fan of his work but nice to see some Koons on here. Good luck with sale.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by dries2018 on Oct 20, 2020 11:04:07 GMT 1, THANKS
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by tally on Oct 20, 2020 11:22:30 GMT 1, Sorry to highjack! But Iโm also selling my Jeff Koons Elephant Plate. Edition of 2500 Looking for ยฃ400
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 11:27:06 GMT 1, Just FYI. There is huge amount of fake Koons sculptures out there - lots of them are 1:1 and have ended up in semi-decent auction houses in the past. Balloon dogs especially. Not saying either of the things listed here are such but to anyone looking to start collecting Koons, do be careful.
Just FYI. There is huge amount of fake Koons sculptures out there - lots of them are 1:1 and have ended up in semi-decent auction houses in the past. Balloon dogs especially. Not saying either of the things listed here are such but to anyone looking to start collecting Koons, do be careful.
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Jeff Koons ๐บ๐ธ Balloon Dog โข Sculpture โข Art For Sale, by dries2018 on Oct 20, 2020 11:32:05 GMT 1, I have been collecting and selling art for more than 30 years and are aware of those Balloon Dog reproductions, I agree, like with the BANKSY sculptures and so many others
I have been collecting and selling art for more than 30 years and are aware of those Balloon Dog reproductions, I agree, like with the BANKSY sculptures and so many others
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