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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Fish in the Sea on Aug 6, 2015 8:47:26 GMT 1, No PC and framed = No cigar for me but good luck none the less. I find it interesting that a lot of sellers take offence when i ask them to de-frame and send me some pic,s of the whole print I have even had a couple tell me to go and get fracked and how dare i request such a thing as it suggests that i am being un-trusting  which of course i am.  You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded.
I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that
I am therefore out
No PC and framed = No cigar for me but good luck none the less. I find it interesting that a lot of sellers take offence when i ask them to de-frame and send me some pic,s of the whole print I have even had a couple tell me to go and get fracked and how dare i request such a thing as it suggests that i am being un-trusting which of course i am. You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded. I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that I am therefore out |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Black Apple Art on Aug 6, 2015 9:09:14 GMT 1, You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded. I think this is perfectly fair. I guess if you are 100% happy with the seller due to previous dealings or multiple recommendations then maybe you might let the unframing go but I think you definitely would want the COA. That being said with what happened to poor Christoffergaddini, who can tell these days. Unfortunately the days are gone when integrity was guaranteed and your word was your handshake. Its a shame, it really is. On the bright side, I'm sure poofly's bud will sort out the COA's and there will be some very happy owners in the future as they seem great prints and competitive prices. 
You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded. I think this is perfectly fair. I guess if you are 100% happy with the seller due to previous dealings or multiple recommendations then maybe you might let the unframing go but I think you definitely would want the COA. That being said with what happened to poor Christoffergaddini, who can tell these days. Unfortunately the days are gone when integrity was guaranteed and your word was your handshake. Its a shame, it really is. On the bright side, I'm sure poofly's bud will sort out the COA's and there will be some very happy owners in the future as they seem great prints and competitive prices. I do want to say that my statement was just advice for all sales and was by no means conveying anything negative about the pieces offered here. They might be in great condition and on the sellers side, it they are so and you can show this via pics it is guaranteed to not only help the sale speed but price obtained as well. |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by andyroo0312 on Aug 6, 2015 9:21:39 GMT 1, I also would like to second the above statement and hope to hear joyful expressions of gratitude towards the seller, fingers crossed.
I also would like to second the above statement and hope to hear joyful expressions of gratitude towards the seller, fingers crossed. |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 9:55:26 GMT 1, Banksy's don't seem to have COA's..I'd really suggest your mate to get this sorted as people will pay a lot more (if anyone will even buy them without COA). Six Banksy prints with no COAs I know stranger things have happened but let's not forget Christoffer Gaddini. I have to agree that you should get this sorted cause it is a red flag.
I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may !
Banksy's don't seem to have COA's..I'd really suggest your mate to get this sorted as people will pay a lot more (if anyone will even buy them without COA). Six Banksy prints with no COAs I know stranger things have happened but let's not forget Christoffer Gaddini. I have to agree that you should get this sorted cause it is a red flag. I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may ! |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Quinnster on Aug 6, 2015 10:35:41 GMT 1, Some real classic POW prints, I love the early stuff, can't seem to find much love for most of the new wave of street art.
Some real classic POW prints, I love the early stuff, can't seem to find much love for most of the new wave of street art.
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Wilson on Aug 6, 2015 11:01:00 GMT 1, Six Banksy prints with no COAs I know stranger things have happened but let's not forget Christoffer Gaddini. I have to agree that you should get this sorted cause it is a red flag. I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may !
I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value.
Like selling a car without an MOT
Six Banksy prints with no COAs I know stranger things have happened but let's not forget Christoffer Gaddini. I have to agree that you should get this sorted cause it is a red flag. I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may ! I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value. Like selling a car without an MOT |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by poofly on Aug 6, 2015 11:09:18 GMT 1, Thanks for all the interest guys.
As for the COA's, Kintreton is right, the owner bought from POW and has had them on his wall for years, and the need for COA's never came up until last night when I told him to get them sorted out. He's now getting that sorted out.
Thanks for all the interest guys.
As for the COA's, Kintreton is right, the owner bought from POW and has had them on his wall for years, and the need for COA's never came up until last night when I told him to get them sorted out. He's now getting that sorted out.
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by poofly on Aug 6, 2015 11:12:42 GMT 1, You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded. I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that I am therefore out
I said that due to the amount of interest its unlikely that it would get to the point where they would need to be deframed for them to sell. Not that it can't happen.
You are 100% andyroo0312 and to be honest deframing and inspection should be the rule and not the exception with any print of significant value. I have had countless instances where myself, customers and close friends have taken significant losses both from private parties and galleries alike, all claiming the pieces were in "perfect" or the infamous "mint" condition. Our circle has all adopted that if they won't deframe and take pictures, or at least have a professional service do it ( at no cost to them), then it's an easy PASS. With the overwhelming quantity of damaged and improperly framed pieces out there, it's truly russian roulette to have it any other way and trust me 4 of those 6 cylinders are loaded. I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that I am therefore out Thats not quite what I said. I said that due to the amount of interest its unlikely that it would get to the point where they would need to be deframed for them to sell. Not that it can't happen. |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Fish in the Sea on Aug 6, 2015 11:23:15 GMT 1, I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that I am therefore out Thats not quite what I said. I said that due to the amount of interest its unlikely that it would get to the point where they would need to be deframed for them to sell. Not that it can't happen.
Well if it can happen then my offer is there for the 3 rats
And my offer to pay for the deframing inspection is also there
All subject to COA of course
I asked same thing to the seller but was told that due to the amount of interest there were going to be sold like that I am therefore out Thats not quite what I said. I said that due to the amount of interest its unlikely that it would get to the point where they would need to be deframed for them to sell. Not that it can't happen. Well if it can happen then my offer is there for the 3 rats And my offer to pay for the deframing inspection is also there All subject to COA of course |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Number48 on Aug 6, 2015 11:56:11 GMT 1, Offer sent
Offer sent
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 12:27:54 GMT 1, I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may ! I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value. Like selling a car without an MOT
I fully agree with you in terms of increased sales potential with COA and i wouldnt be interested without COA, only ever bought one without COA but that was in person at Laz Gallery in Greek Street and COA duly arrived few weeks later.
I just said that i didnt, still dont think it strange that they had no COA's and Poofly has duly explained what i thought would be the case and it appears COA process is now in hand.
I dont think 6 Banksys owned by one bloke without COA's is overly strange if buyer bought them direct from POW in the pre-COA days and had no intentions of selling until now. Why pay a couple of hunded quid for certificates he didnt need until now ? Might not even need them now as some folks might buy them with POW receipts as provenance and get COA themselves, most buyers wouldnt but some may ! I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value. Like selling a car without an MOT I fully agree with you in terms of increased sales potential with COA and i wouldnt be interested without COA, only ever bought one without COA but that was in person at Laz Gallery in Greek Street and COA duly arrived few weeks later. I just said that i didnt, still dont think it strange that they had no COA's and Poofly has duly explained what i thought would be the case and it appears COA process is now in hand. |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by sugar on Aug 6, 2015 12:31:03 GMT 1, Pm for dface
Pm for dface
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Wilson on Aug 6, 2015 12:57:09 GMT 1, I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value. Like selling a car without an MOT I fully agree with you in terms of increased sales potential with COA and i wouldnt be interested without COA, only ever bought one without COA but that was in person at Laz Gallery in Greek Street and COA duly arrived few weeks later. I just said that i didnt, still dont think it strange that they had no COA's and Poofly has duly explained what i thought would be the case and it appears COA process is now in hand.
:-)
I don't agree. For the sake of a couple of hundred quid you may well double or triple your potential market and therefore increase your sale value. Like selling a car without an MOT I fully agree with you in terms of increased sales potential with COA and i wouldnt be interested without COA, only ever bought one without COA but that was in person at Laz Gallery in Greek Street and COA duly arrived few weeks later. I just said that i didnt, still dont think it strange that they had no COA's and Poofly has duly explained what i thought would be the case and it appears COA process is now in hand. Just read your post properly. Apologies for that. Should just get on with working instead of posting on here. :-) |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by RoboJ on Aug 6, 2015 14:05:55 GMT 1, Pm re your WSM
Pm re your WSM
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by gilestyas on Aug 6, 2015 14:31:36 GMT 1, PM re Eelus
PM re Eelus
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by cyberkid on Aug 6, 2015 15:07:38 GMT 1, i would NOT buy without coa...that's it.
i would NOT buy without coa...that's it.
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Steph Rat Catcher on Aug 6, 2015 22:41:17 GMT 1, Hey Steph, OG to the core. POW styles, ye hear me? nah COA's but de man dem work inna POW dun kept all records an ting. so my friend will call and arrange for the COAs to be put in order, but as of this minute i think he may be shy of one or two. all framed by a jolly Scottish chap who has used UV Glass & acid free mounting to museum standards. ken.
iam out I mean who's ever meet a jolly Scottish chap init brv x
Hey Steph, OG to the core. POW styles, ye hear me? nah COA's but de man dem work inna POW dun kept all records an ting. so my friend will call and arrange for the COAs to be put in order, but as of this minute i think he may be shy of one or two. all framed by a jolly Scottish chap who has used UV Glass & acid free mounting to museum standards. ken. iam out I mean who's ever meet a jolly Scottish chap init brv x |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Poly Mindset on Aug 7, 2015 1:45:06 GMT 1, Glad to hear the Banksy COAs are getting sorted, best move you could make. Additionally, who ever picks up the D*Face uncut top sheet for Rome snowboards is gonna get a killer piece at a very fair deal imo. I'd pick it up myself but shipping it framed to the US is cost prohibitive and so is getting it and reframed once it gets here. Someone across the pond should jump on it. GLWTS
Glad to hear the Banksy COAs are getting sorted, best move you could make. Additionally, who ever picks up the D*Face uncut top sheet for Rome snowboards is gonna get a killer piece at a very fair deal imo. I'd pick it up myself but shipping it framed to the US is cost prohibitive and so is getting it and reframed once it gets here. Someone across the pond should jump on it. GLWTS
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by goingdownthedran on Aug 12, 2015 14:36:29 GMT 1, Anything happening here? I didn't get a reply to my PM, should I assume that means everything is sold?
Anything happening here? I didn't get a reply to my PM, should I assume that means everything is sold?
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by honestcrooks on Sept 17, 2015 17:20:52 GMT 1, PM'd 2 times. Guess everything has been sold?
PM'd 2 times. Guess everything has been sold?
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by syndicate on Oct 21, 2015 23:05:42 GMT 1, That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested
That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Deleted on Oct 21, 2015 23:16:08 GMT 1, That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested
I guess you are the original poster with a new name?
That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested I guess you are the original poster with a new name? |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by Pistol on Oct 21, 2015 23:20:25 GMT 1, That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested I guess you are the original poster with a new name?
Yeah, confused me lol
That is pest control back from their summer long holiday. All banksy prints have been approved COA takes 14 days. Also have receipts for the rats. Please PM me if interested I guess you are the original poster with a new name? Yeah, confused me lol |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by .dappy on Oct 21, 2015 23:27:13 GMT 1, ... syndicate first registered Nov 2014 and the above is his 1st post ...
... syndicate first registered Nov 2014 and the above is his 1st post ...
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by syndicate on Oct 21, 2015 23:28:41 GMT 1, not sure what that means, apart from had nothing to sell until now!
not sure what that means, apart from had nothing to sell until now!
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by syndicate on Oct 21, 2015 23:30:51 GMT 1, I guess you are the original poster with a new name? Yeah, confused me lol
I guess you are the original poster with a new name? Yeah, confused me lol no poofly away in the states(he was the one that said selling for a buddy) and that is pest control finally back and confirmed |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by syndicate on Oct 21, 2015 23:35:27 GMT 1, ... syndicate first registered Nov 2014 and the above is his 1st post ...not sure your point? Found site in nov 2014. Have to sell my collection in oct 2015
... syndicate first registered Nov 2014 and the above is his 1st post ...not sure your point? Found site in nov 2014. Have to sell my collection in oct 2015 |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by .dappy on Oct 21, 2015 23:37:17 GMT 1, ... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly?
... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale?
... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly?
... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale?
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by dreadnatty on Oct 21, 2015 23:42:30 GMT 1, ... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly? ... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale?
... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly? ... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale? Either way he only has 4 posts and cannot start a FS thread |
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FS: Banksy Rats, Happy Chopper & WSM, by syndicate on Oct 21, 2015 23:42:17 GMT 1, ... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly? ... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale?
... so just to be clear, you are the buddy and you are not poofly? ... and you are the owner of all of the pieces for sale? yeah dude I'm the buddy and owner of the whole collection |
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which of course i am. 
