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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 13:28:34 GMT 1, What makes people like Banksy works so much?
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Wearology on Dec 20, 2015 14:15:27 GMT 1, I can't stand many of his prints, Banksy is the cleverest on putting finger on the most discusting behaviour in humankind. Except for Virgin Mary and Queen Vic, that I put my own private views in, those prints I love. Rest is like s**t one self in the face and brag about ones stupidity. People love to feel clever, but if they now are so clever that they appriciate Banksys art, why on earth are they paying for it to have it homd on their walls. Go out and change the world instead of continue the insanity. Am I going to be banned now :/ ? You are absolutely not getting banned for those comments, they did not violate any ProBoard rules. I assume you were saying it tongue & cheek anyway : )
I can't stand many of his prints, Banksy is the cleverest on putting finger on the most discusting behaviour in humankind. Except for Virgin Mary and Queen Vic, that I put my own private views in, those prints I love. Rest is like s**t one self in the face and brag about ones stupidity. People love to feel clever, but if they now are so clever that they appriciate Banksys art, why on earth are they paying for it to have it homd on their walls. Go out and change the world instead of continue the insanity. Am I going to be banned now :/ ? You are absolutely not getting banned for those comments, they did not violate any ProBoard rules. I assume you were saying it tongue & cheek anyway : )
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 14:28:02 GMT 1, You are absolutely not getting banned for those comments, they did not violate any ProBoard rules. I assume you were saying it tongue & cheek anyway : ) Yeah and it's no secret I love Banksy, specially when he is wearing that mask, and smells good. Ai... i think you have Zorro and Banksy mixed up....
You are absolutely not getting banned for those comments, they did not violate any ProBoard rules. I assume you were saying it tongue & cheek anyway : ) Yeah and it's no secret I love Banksy, specially when he is wearing that mask, and smells good. Ai... i think you have Zorro and Banksy mixed up....
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Dr Plip on Dec 20, 2015 14:36:55 GMT 1, I just like the cut of his jib.
I just like the cut of his jib.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 14:55:17 GMT 1, Because he's worth lots
In the early days, Banksy artistic offerings like the consumerism at xmas christ with shopping bags was a great take on what christmas today is all about.
People thought the same but his image put it in a nutshell and did it the best.
He was seen as some sort of Robin Hood vandal posting messages in stencils on the streets sticking two fingers up to the law and apathy today.
People bought the images to display on their walls to their friends as if to say to themselves. "i'm Banksy" because I have one one my wall knowing that "buy" supporting him that they were safe at home being while Banksy was out doing the stuff for them.
Banksy is cool, he's a rebel, and i'm a rebel too because I have a Banksy on my wall.
Today people still look at Banksy in the same way.
It's hard for anyone or rebel who makes graffiti to get even one line in a mainstream newspaper or news on tv without having a well paid PR team behind them plus contacts in the press and journalism.
People like Banksy today it seems because they have invested in his art and are making money from it.
Same reason why people buy Brainwash etc.
People are not stupid and can see the non talent taht Brainwash is but as long as there is a market for his prints, people will always find something good to say about Brainwash.
Same goes for Banksy who gets the most hype in the mainstream.
How far Banksy will evolve artistically depends on him and what he wants to do artistically.
If he decides it's more important to use art to prmote a political agenda (for some) he will always have people who use it to say what a genius, raising awareness about issues that most people are allready aware of.
Looking at Jo Brooks twitter timeline, genius seems to be a standard word used to hype various artists
Because he's worth lots In the early days, Banksy artistic offerings like the consumerism at xmas christ with shopping bags was a great take on what christmas today is all about. People thought the same but his image put it in a nutshell and did it the best. He was seen as some sort of Robin Hood vandal posting messages in stencils on the streets sticking two fingers up to the law and apathy today. People bought the images to display on their walls to their friends as if to say to themselves. "i'm Banksy" because I have one one my wall knowing that "buy" supporting him that they were safe at home being while Banksy was out doing the stuff for them. Banksy is cool, he's a rebel, and i'm a rebel too because I have a Banksy on my wall. Today people still look at Banksy in the same way. It's hard for anyone or rebel who makes graffiti to get even one line in a mainstream newspaper or news on tv without having a well paid PR team behind them plus contacts in the press and journalism. People like Banksy today it seems because they have invested in his art and are making money from it. Same reason why people buy Brainwash etc. People are not stupid and can see the non talent taht Brainwash is but as long as there is a market for his prints, people will always find something good to say about Brainwash. Same goes for Banksy who gets the most hype in the mainstream. How far Banksy will evolve artistically depends on him and what he wants to do artistically. If he decides it's more important to use art to prmote a political agenda (for some) he will always have people who use it to say what a genius, raising awareness about issues that most people are allready aware of. Looking at Jo Brooks twitter timeline, genius seems to be a standard word used to hype various artists
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Happy Go Lucky Chap on Dec 20, 2015 16:04:34 GMT 1, Most probably just see his work as a sound investment, that's why so many appear for sale here unframed and in pristine condition, only to be bought by the next guy again to be stored flat. I wonder what percentage of Banksy prints actually make the wall.
That said, a lot of his stuff is pretty cool.
Most probably just see his work as a sound investment, that's why so many appear for sale here unframed and in pristine condition, only to be bought by the next guy again to be stored flat. I wonder what percentage of Banksy prints actually make the wall.
That said, a lot of his stuff is pretty cool.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by minimalistic on Dec 20, 2015 17:14:19 GMT 1, I like the statements he makes with his art. However, artistically (in terms of actual execution) other artists are miles better, but I'll still aim to add a Banksy to my collection, although I like his earlier stuff better. I don't agree with buying something and packing it away in a portofolio somewhere. As far as I am concerned art is there to be enjoyed on walls. It can still be an investment if it's framed properly using the right materials.
I like the statements he makes with his art. However, artistically (in terms of actual execution) other artists are miles better, but I'll still aim to add a Banksy to my collection, although I like his earlier stuff better. I don't agree with buying something and packing it away in a portofolio somewhere. As far as I am concerned art is there to be enjoyed on walls. It can still be an investment if it's framed properly using the right materials.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 17:50:37 GMT 1, The pricing is very clever in as much as the prints are too expensive today for people who are on low incomes yet affordable for people on higher incomes as a possible investment.
I get the feeling that Banksy fans would have welcomed T Shirts, posters cards cell phone cases etc from an official Banksy outlet as opposed to one of the knock off retailers.
The pricing is very clever in as much as the prints are too expensive today for people who are on low incomes yet affordable for people on higher incomes as a possible investment.
I get the feeling that Banksy fans would have welcomed T Shirts, posters cards cell phone cases etc from an official Banksy outlet as opposed to one of the knock off retailers.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by mutatis on Dec 20, 2015 18:33:16 GMT 1, Most probably just see his work as a sound investment, that's why so many appear for sale here unframed and in pristine condition, only to be bought by the next guy again to be stored flat. I wonder what percentage of Banksy prints actually make the wall. That said, a lot of his stuff is pretty cool. I don't disagree, but that said there are a lot of people who bought early works simply because they liked them and that was their first introduction to "urban art". I'm sure most of us know someone who simply whacked the print in any old frame or simply stuck it straight to the wall with tape, taking care to wipe off the beer stains and smooth out the creases first ..... Every stain tells a story and they still hang proud
That said in a market where Banksy is low in readily "affordable" supply and high in demand, there are an awful lot of non-Banksy "stored flat" /"minty fresh" condition prints which equally are arguably bought as investments and will never make the wall. I use the term "investment" broadly, to cover trading for other works.
Most probably just see his work as a sound investment, that's why so many appear for sale here unframed and in pristine condition, only to be bought by the next guy again to be stored flat. I wonder what percentage of Banksy prints actually make the wall. That said, a lot of his stuff is pretty cool. I don't disagree, but that said there are a lot of people who bought early works simply because they liked them and that was their first introduction to "urban art". I'm sure most of us know someone who simply whacked the print in any old frame or simply stuck it straight to the wall with tape, taking care to wipe off the beer stains and smooth out the creases first ..... Every stain tells a story and they still hang proud That said in a market where Banksy is low in readily "affordable" supply and high in demand, there are an awful lot of non-Banksy "stored flat" / "minty fresh" condition prints which equally are arguably bought as investments and will never make the wall. I use the term "investment" broadly, to cover trading for other works.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by bonesy on Dec 20, 2015 18:34:02 GMT 1, Because his average piece of work is worlds better than most of his peers best piece of work.
Because his average piece of work is worlds better than most of his peers best piece of work.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 18:50:49 GMT 1, What makes people like Banksy works so much? People want what they cannot have. A tremendous amount of time and effort went into building the Banksy brand. The rise of the "mysterious" Banksy was not an accident, nor the result of some artistic skill unseen in others. It was a brilliant bit of strategy, marketing, and PR that made everyone go gaga. That's why purchasing new prints and original Banksy works has achieved an almost mythical and ultimately unattainable status.
Simple rule of show business: Always leave them wanting more.
What makes people like Banksy works so much? People want what they cannot have. A tremendous amount of time and effort went into building the Banksy brand. The rise of the "mysterious" Banksy was not an accident, nor the result of some artistic skill unseen in others. It was a brilliant bit of strategy, marketing, and PR that made everyone go gaga. That's why purchasing new prints and original Banksy works has achieved an almost mythical and ultimately unattainable status. Simple rule of show business: Always leave them wanting more.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Coach on Dec 20, 2015 19:01:05 GMT 1, For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends.
For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:02:31 GMT 1, je ne comprends pas
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Reptile 072 on Dec 20, 2015 19:08:32 GMT 1, There are many reasons why people like Banksy, but speaking for myself: his work often challenges us to find our inner humanity and reminds us to go about life with a good sense of humor. The mystique around his identity and the risks he takes makes for quite the spectator sport as well.
There are many reasons why people like Banksy, but speaking for myself: his work often challenges us to find our inner humanity and reminds us to go about life with a good sense of humor. The mystique around his identity and the risks he takes makes for quite the spectator sport as well.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:15:51 GMT 1, For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open.
The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.
For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:17:12 GMT 1, No, you misunderstood. I can't understand why anyone would want more Jarvis Cocker.
No, you misunderstood. I can't understand why anyone would want more Jarvis Cocker.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Coach on Dec 20, 2015 19:26:20 GMT 1, For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open.ย The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.ย
Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different.
For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open.ย The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.ย Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Fะฏ on Dec 20, 2015 19:29:49 GMT 1, You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different. Happens alot.
You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different. Happens alot.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by andysh on Dec 20, 2015 19:34:19 GMT 1, Technically Banksy's works are quite simple. If you're average on design software and have the patience to cut stencils it's a piece of cake. Banksy is all about concepts, ideas, inteligent humor. And that makes him great.
Technically Banksy's works are quite simple. If you're average on design software and have the patience to cut stencils it's a piece of cake. Banksy is all about concepts, ideas, inteligent humor. And that makes him great.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:39:32 GMT 1, Yes, it does happen a lot. One could say this entire site is evidence of that. One could also say that if it didn't happen a lot, Banksy would not have the funds to be able to build Dismaland, travel to Palestine, the USA, Calais or anywhere else. I'd go go far as to say if it didn't happen a lot, Banksy would not be as widely known and appreciated.
Secondary markets like this one, or various auctions, literally fuel an artists career. Supply low, demand high, prices high, and all that.
I appreciate many of you appreciate Banksy for purely altruistic reasons. I like to look at the whole picture.
And don't mistake me, I am in awe of what the Banksy brand did.
Yes, it does happen a lot. One could say this entire site is evidence of that. One could also say that if it didn't happen a lot, Banksy would not have the funds to be able to build Dismaland, travel to Palestine, the USA, Calais or anywhere else. I'd go go far as to say if it didn't happen a lot, Banksy would not be as widely known and appreciated.
Secondary markets like this one, or various auctions, literally fuel an artists career. Supply low, demand high, prices high, and all that.
I appreciate many of you appreciate Banksy for purely altruistic reasons. I like to look at the whole picture.
And don't mistake me, I am in awe of what the Banksy brand did.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by mouser on Dec 20, 2015 19:40:15 GMT 1, For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. Idisagree with this, as banksy prints were on the whole of a similar edition size with the same split from the early prints where prints were available for several years from POW right up to the LA editions selling out in seconds, but for much less than market prices would dictate, keeping editions at least thoretically available to anyone able to snag one and afford a couple hundred quid. The early runs were printed and split into signed / unsigned long before they even knew if an image would sell.
I was lucky enough to buy most of my collection back when you could pick and choose images, generally opting to buy two different unsigned prints rather than one signed... Got some great images on my walls, more than 10 years later, i still love the sentiment of each piece, comfortable images that resonate an antiesteblishmant humour. Its a shame money seems to be the main driving factor for banksy enjoyment these days.
For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. Idisagree with this, as banksy prints were on the whole of a similar edition size with the same split from the early prints where prints were available for several years from POW right up to the LA editions selling out in seconds, but for much less than market prices would dictate, keeping editions at least thoretically available to anyone able to snag one and afford a couple hundred quid. The early runs were printed and split into signed / unsigned long before they even knew if an image would sell. I was lucky enough to buy most of my collection back when you could pick and choose images, generally opting to buy two different unsigned prints rather than one signed... Got some great images on my walls, more than 10 years later, i still love the sentiment of each piece, comfortable images that resonate an antiesteblishmant humour. Its a shame money seems to be the main driving factor for banksy enjoyment these days.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Coach on Dec 20, 2015 19:44:49 GMT 1, Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different. Happens alot.
What does?
Investment ... stakeholders ... Yuk I was perhaps not answering the same question as you. I was expressing what I like about Banksy. It seems that our interest is quite different. Happens alot. What does?
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Coach on Dec 20, 2015 19:48:49 GMT 1, For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open.ย The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.ย
You see, if people can't afford a banksy print, and I suspect a large number of people on here can't, then you don't really care if his work goes up or down in value. You are left with the aesthetics. The enjoyment of his shows, his street work, his capers and mischief.
For me it's not about aquisition or failure to aquire. It's that Banksy never fails to surpass my expectations. The film in the tunnels, Bristol museum show, BOTI, Dismaland, etc. Each time I have an expectation about how good it will be. Each time I'm still blown away by how much better than my expectation the reality is. And, on a more sentimental note, without Banksy this site wouldn't exist, and I wouldn't have met so many people that I now consider to be friends. You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open.ย The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century.ย You see, if people can't afford a banksy print, and I suspect a large number of people on here can't, then you don't really care if his work goes up or down in value. You are left with the aesthetics. The enjoyment of his shows, his street work, his capers and mischief.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:50:31 GMT 1, Mouser, it is not a shame. It is what Banksy wanted. To think otherwise is naive at best.
The questions was: "What makes people like Banksy works so much?"
Art is a luxury item, even those prints you speak of were luxury items, despite what they cost or how long they were available. There was a plan in place in regards to the Banksy brand, long before those editions you speak of were even printed. The fact that there was a signed and unsigned option is evidence of that. The plan was to create a very successful, profitable brand out of the Banksy name. It was beautiful success. That is why people like Banksy works so much. The wealthy people who buy his works today want that brand name Banksy luxury item n their home(s).
Mouser, it is not a shame. It is what Banksy wanted. To think otherwise is naive at best.
The questions was: "What makes people like Banksy works so much?"
Art is a luxury item, even those prints you speak of were luxury items, despite what they cost or how long they were available. There was a plan in place in regards to the Banksy brand, long before those editions you speak of were even printed. The fact that there was a signed and unsigned option is evidence of that. The plan was to create a very successful, profitable brand out of the Banksy name. It was beautiful success. That is why people like Banksy works so much. The wealthy people who buy his works today want that brand name Banksy luxury item n their home(s).
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 19:53:24 GMT 1, You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. You see, if people can't afford a banksy print, and I suspect a large number of people on here can't, then you don't really care if his work goes up or down in value. You are left with the aesthetics. The enjoyment of his shows, his street work, his capers and mischief. Yes Coach, but they WANT it, and then they want it to go up in value. Whether it is an Imbecile balloon, a tshirt, or a paper fish in a bag.
You see Coach, it is about acquisition and failure to acquire. That is why printed editions are numbered and people don't particularly appreciate it when an artist releases more prints outside the original edition. Stakeholders in any particular artist want to know (or at least think) their investment is secure. If it was about the art, and only the art, all editions would be open. The Banksy brand did not invent this system, but did update and master it for the 21st century. You see, if people can't afford a banksy print, and I suspect a large number of people on here can't, then you don't really care if his work goes up or down in value. You are left with the aesthetics. The enjoyment of his shows, his street work, his capers and mischief. Yes Coach, but they WANT it, and then they want it to go up in value. Whether it is an Imbecile balloon, a tshirt, or a paper fish in a bag.
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mouser
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by mouser on Dec 20, 2015 20:38:15 GMT 1, Mouser, it is not a shame. It is what Banksy wanted. To think otherwise is naive at best. The questions was: "What makes people like Banksy works so much?" Art is a luxury item, even those prints you speak of were luxury items, despite what they cost or how long they were available. There was a plan in place in regards to the Banksy brand, long before those editions you speak of were even printed. The fact that there was a signed and unsigned option is evidence of that. The plan was to create a very successful, profitable brand out of the Banksy name. It was beautiful success. That is why people like Banksy works so much. The wealthy people who buy his works today want that brand name Banksy luxury item n their home(s). I will agree to disagree with you, i have no insite as to the level of prior planning that younallude to, seeing the absolute clusterfuck that POW went through in 2007-2009, i would hazard a guess that any outfit so terribly underprepared to react to the development of banksy interest coupled with the significant ammount of free exhibits etc the banksy team have put on over the years hints that it may not have been the money making machine you believe, but that is only my opinion.
Mouser, it is not a shame. It is what Banksy wanted. To think otherwise is naive at best. The questions was: "What makes people like Banksy works so much?" Art is a luxury item, even those prints you speak of were luxury items, despite what they cost or how long they were available. There was a plan in place in regards to the Banksy brand, long before those editions you speak of were even printed. The fact that there was a signed and unsigned option is evidence of that. The plan was to create a very successful, profitable brand out of the Banksy name. It was beautiful success. That is why people like Banksy works so much. The wealthy people who buy his works today want that brand name Banksy luxury item n their home(s). I will agree to disagree with you, i have no insite as to the level of prior planning that younallude to, seeing the absolute clusterfuck that POW went through in 2007-2009, i would hazard a guess that any outfit so terribly underprepared to react to the development of banksy interest coupled with the significant ammount of free exhibits etc the banksy team have put on over the years hints that it may not have been the money making machine you believe, but that is only my opinion.
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saucyjack
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 21:00:09 GMT 1, Yes Mouser, we'll agree to disagree. You saw those 2007-2009 queue-ups at POW as an unintended clusterf**k, I saw them as a calculated PR move to drive up the attention and illustrate the hysteria Banksy was commanding. And let's face it, many, if not the majority of those who queued for prints did so because they knew they could resell them for much more than they initially paid. Again, not an accident to price those prints so far below "market value." Nor was it a way for Banksy to reward his "true fans" with affordable art. It was well known by POW that a clusterf**k would ensue from the way they released those editions, and the subsequent flipping of those prints would be good in terms of driving up the value of the Banksy brand.
Bravo to them!
Yes Mouser, we'll agree to disagree. You saw those 2007-2009 queue-ups at POW as an unintended clusterf**k, I saw them as a calculated PR move to drive up the attention and illustrate the hysteria Banksy was commanding. And let's face it, many, if not the majority of those who queued for prints did so because they knew they could resell them for much more than they initially paid. Again, not an accident to price those prints so far below "market value." Nor was it a way for Banksy to reward his "true fans" with affordable art. It was well known by POW that a clusterf**k would ensue from the way they released those editions, and the subsequent flipping of those prints would be good in terms of driving up the value of the Banksy brand.
Bravo to them!
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Fะฏ
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Fะฏ on Dec 20, 2015 21:15:53 GMT 1, No one here spends ยฃ15k on a print to enjoy on the wall forever. Notice the 'here' part. most get bought to put into posh london apartments that rich russians are buying who give zero shits about what it is.
No one here spends ยฃ15k on a print to enjoy on the wall forever. Notice the 'here' part. most get bought to put into posh london apartments that rich russians are buying who give zero shits about what it is.
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saucyjack
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by saucyjack on Dec 20, 2015 21:20:27 GMT 1, No one here spends ยฃ15k on a print to enjoy on the wall forever. Notice the 'here' part. most get bought to put into posh london apartments that rich russians are buying who give zero s**ts about what it is. Oh dear!
No one here spends ยฃ15k on a print to enjoy on the wall forever. Notice the 'here' part. most get bought to put into posh london apartments that rich russians are buying who give zero s**ts about what it is. Oh dear!
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Fะฏ
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Fะฏ on Dec 20, 2015 21:23:05 GMT 1, You mean... O, Bozhe.
You mean... O, Bozhe.
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