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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Jan 6, 2016 15:11:03 GMT 1, Banksy has proved his point.
Banksy has proved his point.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Cornish Crayon on Jan 6, 2016 18:25:07 GMT 1, Banksy has proved his point.
Does that mean you've proved yours then ?
.........or have you not got one ?
Just out of curiosity, nothing else.
Banksy has proved his point. Does that mean you've proved yours then ? .........or have you not got one ? Just out of curiosity, nothing else. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by mlocks on Jan 7, 2016 9:05:25 GMT 1, Overpopulation and a desperate struggle for resources. Or perhaps something like a Gamma-ray burst? My guess is when the universe collapses upon itself in the "big crunch" or when someone remembers to turn off this silly simulation.
At least one of the following propositions must be true:
1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero;
2) The fraction of post-human stage individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero;
3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one.
Overpopulation and a desperate struggle for resources. Or perhaps something like a Gamma-ray burst? My guess is when the universe collapses upon itself in the "big crunch" or when someone remembers to turn off this silly simulation. At least one of the following propositions must be true: 1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero; 2) The fraction of post-human stage individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero; 3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Dr Plip on Jan 7, 2016 10:04:26 GMT 1, My guess is when the universe collapses upon itself in the "big crunch" or when someone remembers to turn off this silly simulation. At least one of the following propositions must be true: 1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero; 2) The fraction of post-human stage civilizations with individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero; 3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one.
My guess is when the universe collapses upon itself in the "big crunch" or when someone remembers to turn off this silly simulation. At least one of the following propositions must be true: 1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero; 2) The fraction of post-human stage civilizations with individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero; 3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one. Something for us all to ponder while we queue for the next print release. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by mlocks on Jan 7, 2016 11:02:45 GMT 1, At least one of the following propositions must be true: 1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero; 2) The fraction of post-human stage civilizations with individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero; 3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one. Something for us all to ponder while we queue for the next print release.
Perhaps, but I will likely be too focused on fighting my way through the digital masses so that I may attain more imaginary artwork from imaginary artists. After failing miserably, I will then console myself with the knowledge that regardless of which proposition ultimately comes to pass, it is of no consequence - just as the initial question asking "where will it all end" is of no consequence. The real question being whether I will be prepared when the creator decides to close the curtains, as it seems rather obvious that when Banksy delivers his final swan song he will likely be taking everything and everyone with him on the way out.
In other words, the end will closely resemble that of Matthew 5:5, albeit in a more poetic fashion.
At least one of the following propositions must be true: 1) The fraction of all human level civilizations that evolve to post-human stage is very close to zero; 2) The fraction of post-human stage civilizations with individuals interested in running ancestor simulations is very close to zero; 3) The fraction of all people with our kind of experiences that are currently living in a simulation is very close to one. Something for us all to ponder while we queue for the next print release. Perhaps, but I will likely be too focused on fighting my way through the digital masses so that I may attain more imaginary artwork from imaginary artists. After failing miserably, I will then console myself with the knowledge that regardless of which proposition ultimately comes to pass, it is of no consequence - just as the initial question asking "where will it all end" is of no consequence. The real question being whether I will be prepared when the creator decides to close the curtains, as it seems rather obvious that when Banksy delivers his final swan song he will likely be taking everything and everyone with him on the way out. In other words, the end will closely resemble that of Matthew 5:5, albeit in a more poetic fashion. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Ponyboy Curtis on Jan 7, 2016 11:11:55 GMT 1, It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive.
It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive.
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 11:39:20 GMT 1, It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive.
I would describe it as belonging to a clique more than a club.
Do celebrities want to belong to the Banksy club or does Banksy want to belong to a celebrity club?
It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive. lol, I would describe it as belonging to a clique more than a club. Do celebrities want to belong to the Banksy club or does Banksy want to belong to a celebrity club? |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Ponyboy Curtis on Jan 7, 2016 12:58:07 GMT 1, It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive. lol, I would describe it as belonging to a clique more than a club. Do celebrities want to belong to the Banksy club or does Banksy want to belong to a celebrity club?
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It's like buying a membership to an exclusive club owning a Banksy. Lots of people want to get in so it remains exclusive. lol, I would describe it as belonging to a clique more than a club. Do celebrities want to belong to the Banksy club or does Banksy want to belong to a celebrity club? Clique/Club/Cult/Religion *delete as applicable. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by lee3 on Jan 7, 2016 17:44:58 GMT 1, As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure:
www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/
My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable."
As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure: www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable." |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Harveyn on Jan 7, 2016 18:20:48 GMT 1, As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure: www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable."
As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure: www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable." What a brilliant little video. A sublime use of colour, texture and technique. Abstract works like these by Gerhard just take my breath away when viewed in the right ambience and in the right frame of mind. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by lee3 on Jan 7, 2016 18:23:34 GMT 1, As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure: www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable." What a brilliant little video. A sublime use of colour, texture and technique. Abstract works like these by Gerhard just take my breath away when viewed in the right ambience and in the right frame of mind.
Watch the whole film bud, words are hopeless.
As an aside, I'm furious with myself for taking 3 years too long to finally enjoy "Gerhard Richter- Painting" which is a delight if you haven't had the pleasure: www.imdb.com/title/tt1982113/My better half and I adored it last evening and for my eyes was up there with Muscle Shoals in terms of artistic documentaries of the past few years. I'm not trying to put Banksy on the pedestal that Richter seemingly occupies all by himself at this point but there was one quote from Gerhard himself in the film that made my mind immediately race to Banksy's escapades: "The exhibition is pretty ruthless, just the large abstracts. It has to be cold light, so that the people are happy to get out. They shouldn’t feel comfortable." What a brilliant little video. A sublime use of colour, texture and technique. Abstract works like these by Gerhard just take my breath away when viewed in the right ambience and in the right frame of mind. Watch the whole film bud, words are hopeless. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Black Apple Art on Jan 9, 2016 1:08:59 GMT 1, Was told by a very reliable source who was retailing the mags. Is it really such a stretch that they had such demand for that issue? A cover with new banksy artwork and his first legit indepth press interview in over a decade. "A tipping point for Banksy".... Would love to hear your reasoning behind that theory. BOTI, Gaza, Dismaland... I see him stepping up his game exponentially and I can't see that stopping anytime soon. I heard a lot of the same talk almost a decade ago after his LA show. Either way... fun to watch and take part in. Well if a retailer told you then it has to be true, I doubt a retailer would understand or know how much one issue is printed over any other. I could see a retailer in an area where banksy might be popular having to order more than normal but for the rest of the world like were I live Juxtapoz issues sit on shelves business as usual. Which was my point, and yet it is a stretch IMO which was why I even commented on it. As far as my reasoning I dont think I would have the time to really have a conversation, but call it a overall sense and intuition I have. Its not based on any fact or #'s but I really feel the world is moving on and Banksy is looking more and more like every other artist when Time allows you to digest their work. Some get better with time, for Banksy seems to be reaching more than he has in the past trying hard to do something in order to progress. All artist do this, but for some reaching leads to losing at times. Just look at Hirst when he starting moving away from his Niche, and created his Bacon paintings. It seems to been all downhill from there IMO. Again this is not a popularity contest, or tit for tat on #'s just my honest eye on the art being created.
Was told by a very reliable source who was retailing the mags. Is it really such a stretch that they had such demand for that issue? A cover with new banksy artwork and his first legit indepth press interview in over a decade. "A tipping point for Banksy".... Would love to hear your reasoning behind that theory. BOTI, Gaza, Dismaland... I see him stepping up his game exponentially and I can't see that stopping anytime soon. I heard a lot of the same talk almost a decade ago after his LA show. Either way... fun to watch and take part in. Well if a retailer told you then it has to be true, I doubt a retailer would understand or know how much one issue is printed over any other. I could see a retailer in an area where banksy might be popular having to order more than normal but for the rest of the world like were I live Juxtapoz issues sit on shelves business as usual. Which was my point, and yet it is a stretch IMO which was why I even commented on it. As far as my reasoning I dont think I would have the time to really have a conversation, but call it a overall sense and intuition I have. Its not based on any fact or #'s but I really feel the world is moving on and Banksy is looking more and more like every other artist when Time allows you to digest their work. Some get better with time, for Banksy seems to be reaching more than he has in the past trying hard to do something in order to progress. All artist do this, but for some reaching leads to losing at times. Just look at Hirst when he starting moving away from his Niche, and created his Bacon paintings. It seems to been all downhill from there IMO. Again this is not a popularity contest, or tit for tat on #'s just my honest eye on the art being created. Not that this needed any justification but this will be the third print run of the issue. Ok moving along. |
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by Deleted on Jan 9, 2016 14:31:57 GMT 1,
I really enjoyed reading this article.
sabotagetimes.com/life/king-robbo-archive-interview-my-graffiti-war-with-banksy
""Though diluted, graffiti’s growing popularity has meant respected agencies are able to hook writers up with paid work and a gallery environment, but yet again the issue of the ever increasing grey area between what is street-art and what is graffiti comes up. Fellow graffiti artist and owner of London agency RareKind, David Samuel, argues that from the public sphere to the gallery graffiti gets lost in translation. “Graffiti in a gallery is not a real thing, what people need to know is that the work is by graffiti artists, people with a history, people who painted at first not for money, but for appreciation within their culture. When they hit the gallery scene they put themselves out there as artists, not as graffiti writers and have the same struggles as any other artist.
Through the eyes of the art world, the enduring popularity of street-art implies that the dawn of stencilled rats was the only time graffiti has provided social commentary. The mainstream media wet themselves when Hackney Council voted to paint over an alleged Banksy, lamenting an un-appreciation of art, yet they stumbled when choosing to describe it as either street-art or graffiti, the council’s response was simply ‘vandalism is vandalism, whoever it’s by’. Robbo muses “labelling something as street-art straightaway puts financial value on it…it’s great to get paid for doing something you love but should never be the main aim. Social commentary or not, Banksy is the Tesco of the art-world, what he promotes is tacky, mass-produced shit that provokes a reaction to make himself money. Art should be one-off canvasses, stuff that can’t be copied by anyone. There is no skill in producing something that anyone could do, it’s a clever business module maybe, but it’s not art. But nowadays nobody seems to care about talent anymore they’re just happy to be spoonfed shit, it’s like being stuck in X Factor.”"
I really enjoyed reading this article. sabotagetimes.com/life/king-robbo-archive-interview-my-graffiti-war-with-banksy ""Though diluted, graffiti’s growing popularity has meant respected agencies are able to hook writers up with paid work and a gallery environment, but yet again the issue of the ever increasing grey area between what is street-art and what is graffiti comes up. Fellow graffiti artist and owner of London agency RareKind, David Samuel, argues that from the public sphere to the gallery graffiti gets lost in translation. “Graffiti in a gallery is not a real thing, what people need to know is that the work is by graffiti artists, people with a history, people who painted at first not for money, but for appreciation within their culture. When they hit the gallery scene they put themselves out there as artists, not as graffiti writers and have the same struggles as any other artist.
Through the eyes of the art world, the enduring popularity of street-art implies that the dawn of stencilled rats was the only time graffiti has provided social commentary. The mainstream media wet themselves when Hackney Council voted to paint over an alleged Banksy, lamenting an un-appreciation of art, yet they stumbled when choosing to describe it as either street-art or graffiti, the council’s response was simply ‘vandalism is vandalism, whoever it’s by’. Robbo muses “labelling something as street-art straightaway puts financial value on it…it’s great to get paid for doing something you love but should never be the main aim. Social commentary or not, Banksy is the Tesco of the art-world, what he promotes is tacky, mass-produced shit that provokes a reaction to make himself money. Art should be one-off canvasses, stuff that can’t be copied by anyone. There is no skill in producing something that anyone could do, it’s a clever business module maybe, but it’s not art. But nowadays nobody seems to care about talent anymore they’re just happy to be spoonfed shit, it’s like being stuck in X Factor.”"
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What makes people like Banksy works so much, by vernaxley on Jan 21, 2016 16:31:28 GMT 1, You have a symbol of control, power and subjugation re-appropriated as a source of joy. What if it was signed "Outis?" Would it still be " ...a symbol of control, power and subjugation re-appropriated as a source of joy," or would it be just another attempt by a crap opportunist artist to make cash on the heels of Banksy? That is a rhetorical question, of course.
That's a million miles from being a rhetorical question. Its a leading question, and a pretty contrived one at that. It would make more sense to ask the "cash on the heels" question of any number of copyists on this forum, this, for example, which is astounding:
urbanartassociation.com/post/1443178/thread
You have a symbol of control, power and subjugation re-appropriated as a source of joy. What if it was signed "Outis?" Would it still be " ...a symbol of control, power and subjugation re-appropriated as a source of joy," or would it be just another attempt by a crap opportunist artist to make cash on the heels of Banksy? That is a rhetorical question, of course. That's a million miles from being a rhetorical question. Its a leading question, and a pretty contrived one at that. It would make more sense to ask the "cash on the heels" question of any number of copyists on this forum, this, for example, which is astounding: urbanartassociation.com/post/1443178/thread |
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