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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 6, 2016 23:00:53 GMT 1, As mentioned, ... Vandal King Blue.
Photo to follow in the morning under normal light, can add now if asked, but its perfect.
Will take ยฃ300 + P&P via PP Gift or + fees or transfer.
If more than 1 is interested, it will go to the highest price, but no bidding war, will be very open and transparent and prefer to sell on a first come basis.
All questions answered and will be looking to sell by Monday, so won't be hanging it out for price reasons.
Best,
N
As mentioned, ... Vandal King Blue.
Photo to follow in the morning under normal light, can add now if asked, but its perfect.
Will take ยฃ300 + P&P via PP Gift or + fees or transfer.
If more than 1 is interested, it will go to the highest price, but no bidding war, will be very open and transparent and prefer to sell on a first come basis.
All questions answered and will be looking to sell by Monday, so won't be hanging it out for price reasons.
Best,
N
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 8, 2016 20:55:57 GMT 1, ยฃ300 all in, including delivery, can't say fairer than that.
ยฃ300 all in, including delivery, can't say fairer than that.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 9, 2016 18:53:08 GMT 1, Reduced to ยฃ280 as need a quick fix!
Reduced to ยฃ280 as need a quick fix!
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by dranfan14 on Feb 10, 2016 16:16:23 GMT 1, good deal for someone! dots been quite recently but this is one of his best images IMO. wonder what he's up to?
good deal for someone! dots been quite recently but this is one of his best images IMO. wonder what he's up to?
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 10, 2016 16:23:10 GMT 1, Good question, what do you think (just wanting to see the 1000th post and say 'nice one')
Good question, what do you think (just wanting to see the 1000th post and say 'nice one')
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 10, 2016 19:00:21 GMT 1, Last chance, ยฃ260 all in post to UK, needs to be tonight as I have a vet bill to pay in the morning, and if I can't sell then I'm borrowing it, either that or the cat gets left there..;-(
Last chance, ยฃ260 all in post to UK, needs to be tonight as I have a vet bill to pay in the morning, and if I can't sell then I'm borrowing it, either that or the cat gets left there..;-(
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 13, 2016 19:13:34 GMT 1, Last reduction, ยฃ250 including post using PP gift. I've got it out now, so want to sell it before it disappears into a folder again.
Last reduction, ยฃ250 including post using PP gift. I've got it out now, so want to sell it before it disappears into a folder again.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Nick on Feb 13, 2016 20:39:01 GMT 1, Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone..
Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone..
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 13, 2016 20:45:41 GMT 1, Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick
Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by natstan on Feb 15, 2016 1:08:27 GMT 1, Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick
Not ยฃ160 probably, but there is a pink one at ยฃ250 (ยฃ10 shipped worldwide) still available on the bay for a while it seems, so the seller is expecting a lesser amount after accounting for fees. Probably best to go for an auction style on the bay to ascertain its current value and demand if it doesn't sell here by end of this week.
Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick Not ยฃ160 probably, but there is a pink one at ยฃ250 (ยฃ10 shipped worldwide) still available on the bay for a while it seems, so the seller is expecting a lesser amount after accounting for fees. Probably best to go for an auction style on the bay to ascertain its current value and demand if it doesn't sell here by end of this week.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 15, 2016 1:31:52 GMT 1, I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid...
I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid...
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Loobaz on Feb 15, 2016 9:57:57 GMT 1, I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid... I don't think anyone was making prices up or being stupid. Here are the most recent sales I found:
Blue for ยฃ160 . ยฃ144 Sale (not sure if this is Blue or Green...)
I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid... I don't think anyone was making prices up or being stupid. Here are the most recent sales I found: Blue for ยฃ160. ยฃ144 Sale (not sure if this is Blue or Green...)
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by tab1 on Feb 15, 2016 10:48:51 GMT 1, I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid... I don't think anyone was making prices up or being stupid.ย Here are the most recent sales I found: Blue for ยฃ160. ยฃ144 Saleย (not sure if this is Blue or Green...)
Gallery sale too? They usually pump prices! Must see if they stock banksy work
I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid... I don't think anyone was making prices up or being stupid.ย Here are the most recent sales I found: Blue for ยฃ160. ยฃ144 Saleย (not sure if this is Blue or Green...) Gallery sale too? They usually pump prices! Must see if they stock banksy work
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Nick on Feb 15, 2016 10:49:52 GMT 1, Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick I have just seen this response, otherwise i would have written back sooner. You really need to take a long look at yourself if you think that it's welcome and acceptable to write those sorts of comments on here..at the very least i hope you understand it makes you look like the very small man you obviously are..
For over a week you were the only one commenting on your sales thread, adjusting the price down each time as you obviously priced it wrong the first time and had no interest. So i decided to comment some constructive pricing info and you go off the boil...
The day you listed the auction i saw it, thought the price was a bit high and did an ebay 'sold items' check. 5 or 6 of these prints sold in november within a price range of ยฃ140-ยฃ160. They were all listed by a gallery in chester (if i remember correctly) who used a picture of a framed variant, but noted that the winning bidder would receive an unframed version. All colours were represented. Not wanting to derail your thread i said nothing until a week later as you obviously weren't finding a buyer.
Coincidentally enough these do not now show on a sold item search, after a few months sales do not show and that cut off must have happened this week.
The fact you still have not sold at ยฃ250 all in only points to the fact my assumption is correct. And the argument that this is less than your cost really holds no value. Like many others on these boards i have also made losses on prints bought at source price.
Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick I have just seen this response, otherwise i would have written back sooner. You really need to take a long look at yourself if you think that it's welcome and acceptable to write those sorts of comments on here..at the very least i hope you understand it makes you look like the very small man you obviously are.. For over a week you were the only one commenting on your sales thread, adjusting the price down each time as you obviously priced it wrong the first time and had no interest. So i decided to comment some constructive pricing info and you go off the boil... The day you listed the auction i saw it, thought the price was a bit high and did an ebay 'sold items' check. 5 or 6 of these prints sold in november within a price range of ยฃ140-ยฃ160. They were all listed by a gallery in chester (if i remember correctly) who used a picture of a framed variant, but noted that the winning bidder would receive an unframed version. All colours were represented. Not wanting to derail your thread i said nothing until a week later as you obviously weren't finding a buyer. Coincidentally enough these do not now show on a sold item search, after a few months sales do not show and that cut off must have happened this week. The fact you still have not sold at ยฃ250 all in only points to the fact my assumption is correct. And the argument that this is less than your cost really holds no value. Like many others on these boards i have also made losses on prints bought at source price.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Nick on Feb 15, 2016 10:51:02 GMT 1, Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go...
Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go...
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 15, 2016 14:18:33 GMT 1, Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go... My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move on
Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go... My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move on
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Nick on Feb 15, 2016 14:43:24 GMT 1, You said you needed a quick sale for a vet bill. I spoke up to give some pricing info and help your sale.. What you need to do is to distinguish the difference between selling figures and asking prices..
You said you needed a quick sale for a vet bill. I spoke up to give some pricing info and help your sale.. What you need to do is to distinguish the difference between selling figures and asking prices..
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 15, 2016 23:59:49 GMT 1, lol, been advised to ignore this type of post by pm, but not sure what aim someone has that they feel they need to come on to a simple for sale thread and then make up accusations and try to turn it into some kind of Laurel and Hardy sketch. Anyway, no Idea....sits back, amused, confused and so pleased to be among such nice people.
lol, been advised to ignore this type of post by pm, but not sure what aim someone has that they feel they need to come on to a simple for sale thread and then make up accusations and try to turn it into some kind of Laurel and Hardy sketch. Anyway, no Idea....sits back, amused, confused and so pleased to be among such nice people.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by storm breaker on Feb 16, 2016 0:37:37 GMT 1, I think that ends this thread. Let's leave it there eh folks.
I think that ends this thread. Let's leave it there eh folks.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 16, 2016 0:39:18 GMT 1, 1. Littlegs : No idea, not in anyway, shape or form anything to do with me or anybody I know 2. Never sold a Banksy tenner (Fake or otherwise anywhere, ever) 3.Otherwise, you are like Sherlock Holmes.....without facts, so no false accusations there at all.
Sits back and wonders why I'm even engaging in this nonsense, I can't be bothered to make up some random crap, I have more interesting things to do, I will leave you to dig deeper, find the truth, and then I await the apology.....ah, right, that's a man thing admitting when they are wrong..won't be waiting for that.
1. Littlegs : No idea, not in anyway, shape or form anything to do with me or anybody I know 2. Never sold a Banksy tenner (Fake or otherwise anywhere, ever) 3.Otherwise, you are like Sherlock Holmes.....without facts, so no false accusations there at all.
Sits back and wonders why I'm even engaging in this nonsense, I can't be bothered to make up some random crap, I have more interesting things to do, I will leave you to dig deeper, find the truth, and then I await the apology.....ah, right, that's a man thing admitting when they are wrong..won't be waiting for that.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 16, 2016 0:59:58 GMT 1, 'yawns' I stand 100% with my comments above.....I am not the one here posting lies and slagging off someone for trying to sell a print, I forgot that's not what this place is for. so far-cue, ran-dom, busy8 or whichever name you want to go by,
SOLD
'yawns' I stand 100% with my comments above.....I am not the one here posting lies and slagging off someone for trying to sell a print, I forgot that's not what this place is for. so far-cue, ran-dom, busy8 or whichever name you want to go by,
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 22, 2016 20:25:17 GMT 1, Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go... My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move on It's still for sale, or again...use the link posted above as my link got deleted by mods...
Oh wow, there you go..theres even a link above to back me up....back to my mental ward i go... My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move on It's still for sale, or again...use the link posted above as my link got deleted by mods...
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by Steph Rat Catcher on Feb 22, 2016 20:34:07 GMT 1, My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move onย It's still for sale, or again...use the link posted above as my link got deleted by mods... and?
My point was, you stated they are selling on Ebay for ยฃ160....that listing was a 1 off last year, if you look now, which is what I would obviously do as you said they are selling there for that, the only ones are ยฃ350-450. I am offering it at cost price, and you high jack the sales thread to try to make it look like i'm way over priced. Not sure the need for the comments, everyone can see the price, and pass if they don't want it, If they do then can pm me and see what can be done. adding these type of comments makes me wonder why people feel the need to troll posts just to try to make a noise. It's quite simple....If you want it, happy with the price, you can buy it.....If you don't, why not just move onย It's still for sale, or again...use the link posted above as my link got deleted by mods... and?
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by snoozy on Feb 22, 2016 20:49:13 GMT 1, seems ok to use a sale that never actually happened as a basis for trolling.
End of this silly thread. nuff said
seems ok to use a sale that never actually happened as a basis for trolling.
End of this silly thread. nuff said
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by met on Feb 23, 2016 8:41:16 GMT 1, seems ok to use a sale that never actually happened as a basis for trolling. End of this silly thread. nuff said Which sale specifically are you saying never actually happened?
When I read the comments on this thread by Nick, they seem perfectly rational.
The helpful links Loobaz provided to the eBay listings by contth3 / The Contemporary Chester appear to be for genuine sales as well. This gallery is owned by self-described "Investor & Entrepreneur" Jonathan Shingfield. He comes across like a contestant from The Apprentice and is also a convicted rogue landlord.
His recent eBay sales in November and December 2015 for Vandal King (the three I could find, in mint green, pink and blue) seem to have been for ยฃ144.00, ยฃ156.03 and ยฃ160.00. So that's presumably around the current market rate.
I guess this is what happens when so-called entrepreneurs who are clueless about art decide to bulk-buy as short-term investments. Blinkered greed can shut down a person's critical faculties. [What is the image anyway? Some priest with a balaclava holding up a newborn wearing a crown? You could call it nonsensical. Or perhaps (if being kind) esoteric. And the target market? Devout Christian graffiti writers? Monarchist mischief-makers?]
In response to sensible posts, you've reacted with ugly hysteria:
Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid...
I've made similar comments before: You're selling here because you believe you can net a higher figure than by selling on eBay. That is fair enough.
But using a forum as a sales platform also means having to put up with the open exchange of facts and opinions by other members. It requires accepting, like an adult, that sometimes these open exchanges may not work in your favour. Just consider it the quid pro quo of benefiting from ยฃ0 in eBay seller fees.
seems ok to use a sale that never actually happened as a basis for trolling. End of this silly thread. nuff said Which sale specifically are you saying never actually happened? When I read the comments on this thread by Nick, they seem perfectly rational. The helpful links Loobaz provided to the eBay listings by contth3 / The Contemporary Chester appear to be for genuine sales as well. This gallery is owned by self-described "Investor & Entrepreneur" Jonathan Shingfield. He comes across like a contestant from The Apprentice and is also a convicted rogue landlord. His recent eBay sales in November and December 2015 for Vandal King (the three I could find, in mint green, pink and blue) seem to have been for ยฃ144.00, ยฃ156.03 and ยฃ160.00. So that's presumably around the current market rate. I guess this is what happens when so-called entrepreneurs who are clueless about art decide to bulk-buy as short-term investments. Blinkered greed can shut down a person's critical faculties. [What is the image anyway? Some priest with a balaclava holding up a newborn wearing a crown? You could call it nonsensical. Or perhaps (if being kind) esoteric. And the target market? Devout Christian graffiti writers? Monarchist mischief-makers?]In response to sensible posts, you've reacted with ugly hysteria: Selling on ebay for around the ยฃ160 mark so i'd say you'd need to reduce further to interest anyone.. We must have different Ebays...lol don't understand the need for stupid BS comments like that, go back to the mental ward you troll, or show them all at that price, not the ยฃ450 that I can see, p*ick I just wanted the confirmation of these blue ones for ยฃ160 (quoted) on the bay, when they don't exist on my ebay..cant understand people making up crap, if you want it, buy it, if not, piss off and don't try to downplay everything. It's below cost to me (i'm including postage) so correct me if i'm wrong, it's another example of people just being stupid... I've made similar comments before: You're selling here because you believe you can net a higher figure than by selling on eBay. That is fair enough. But using a forum as a sales platform also means having to put up with the open exchange of facts and opinions by other members. It requires accepting, like an adult, that sometimes these open exchanges may not work in your favour. Just consider it the quid pro quo of benefiting from ยฃ0 in eBay seller fees.
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DotDotDot Vandal King Blue Mint print, by met on Mar 2, 2016 14:38:36 GMT 1, Here's an update for this thread showing a recent eBay price achieved on 27 February 2016 for Vandal King (blue) by Dot Dot Dot (item number 272139913389):
ยฃ114.00
What does that leave the seller after eBay and PayPal fees?
The zero feedback of the winning bidder could also suggest shill bidding occurred, meaning the winning bid might otherwise have been even lower.
It's worth mentioning I couldn't care less about the print, and in large part the artist leaves me indifferent. My intention is just to offer words of caution for new collectors โ encouraging them to learn more, think more, and ask themselves basic questions before spending three-figure sums on art. Questions like the following:
1. Why exactly do I like a specific work?
2. What does it have that alternatives in the same price range don't have, including originals or multiples by different artists who may be more established and widely recognised?
3. To what extent could my opinion be influenced by the herd? Or by the manufactured sense of urgency and manipulations of other people? Would I still appreciate the work if nobody else did and its financial value dropped to zero?
A couple of threads with some advice for those starting a collection:
urbanartassociation.com/thread/135228/tips-wanted
urbanartassociation.com/thread/133628/starting-collection
Here's an update for this thread showing a recent eBay price achieved on 27 February 2016 for Vandal King (blue) by Dot Dot Dot (item number 272139913389): ยฃ114.00 What does that leave the seller after eBay and PayPal fees? The zero feedback of the winning bidder could also suggest shill bidding occurred, meaning the winning bid might otherwise have been even lower. It's worth mentioning I couldn't care less about the print, and in large part the artist leaves me indifferent. My intention is just to offer words of caution for new collectors โ encouraging them to learn more, think more, and ask themselves basic questions before spending three-figure sums on art. Questions like the following: 1. Why exactly do I like a specific work? 2. What does it have that alternatives in the same price range don't have, including originals or multiples by different artists who may be more established and widely recognised? 3. To what extent could my opinion be influenced by the herd? Or by the manufactured sense of urgency and manipulations of other people? Would I still appreciate the work if nobody else did and its financial value dropped to zero? A couple of threads with some advice for those starting a collection: urbanartassociation.com/thread/135228/tips-wantedurbanartassociation.com/thread/133628/starting-collection
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