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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by wilkie on Apr 1, 2021 18:11:19 GMT 1, I would really appreciate it if anyone have one to sell  even from a flipper . That piece has special meaning and I really would like it have it hang on my sonโs room .
Many thanks
Regards
W
I would really appreciate it if anyone have one to sell even from a flipper . That piece has special meaning and I really would like it have it hang on my sonโs room . Many thanks Regards W |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 18:15:44 GMT 1, Surely itโs illegal to implement tax onto a U.K. buyer ?
Surely itโs illegal to implement tax onto a U.K. buyer ?
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Ned Flanders on Apr 1, 2021 18:21:58 GMT 1, There will be plenty on eBay soon if his last few prints are anything to go by.
There will be plenty on eBay soon if his last few prints are anything to go by.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by wilkie on Apr 1, 2021 18:24:14 GMT 1, There will be plenty on eBay soon if his last few prints are anything to go by.
Hope so
There will be plenty on eBay soon if his last few prints are anything to go by. Hope so |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Graffiti Prints on Apr 1, 2021 19:16:59 GMT 1, Surely itโs illegal to implement tax onto a U.K. buyer ?
VAT, or Value Added Tax, is levied on the sale of goods and services in the UK. It is a type of โconsumption taxโ because it is charged on items that people buy and is also an โindirect taxโ because it is collected by businesses on behalf of the Government.
Surely itโs illegal to implement tax onto a U.K. buyer ? VAT, or Value Added Tax, is levied on the sale of goods and services in the UK. It is a type of โconsumption taxโ because it is charged on items that people buy and is also an โindirect taxโ because it is collected by businesses on behalf of the Government. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by sleazus1slord on Apr 1, 2021 19:25:50 GMT 1, Delete your account
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 19:32:13 GMT 1, Cheers
Cheers
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Graffiti Prints on Apr 1, 2021 19:51:38 GMT 1, VAT, or Value Added Tax, is levied on the sale of goods and services in the UK. It is a type of โconsumption taxโ because it is charged on items that people buy and is also an โindirect taxโ because it is collected by businesses on behalf of the Government. That isn't in need of an explanation and is not what's being disputed here. Its the way you are doing it, that is.
Ok
I add it to the description from now on
Shopify does not have an option to get price to say + vat
I donโt want to charge it but I donโt want to pay it on behalf of the customers either
Over 50% of sales were U.K. today which is unusual for us
VAT, or Value Added Tax, is levied on the sale of goods and services in the UK. It is a type of โconsumption taxโ because it is charged on items that people buy and is also an โindirect taxโ because it is collected by businesses on behalf of the Government. That isn't in need of an explanation and is not what's being disputed here. Its the way you are doing it, that is. Ok I add it to the description from now on Shopify does not have an option to get price to say + vat I donโt want to charge it but I donโt want to pay it on behalf of the customers either Over 50% of sales were U.K. today which is unusual for us |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Graffiti Prints on Apr 1, 2021 20:03:27 GMT 1, But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair
But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 20:05:49 GMT 1, What's the issue? You just have a price inclusive of VAT. It's really not that difficult. You're adding VAT as if UK customers are buying from overseas. It doesnt work like that.
The way they are doing it is correct. The price of the item is ยฃX, if the buyer is within the UK then 20% VAT is charged. Which part of that do you think is inaccurate?
Because in the UK the price you see is the price you pay. No hiding the tax element. The only time that it is permitted to advertise the price as before tax is if you are selling to business/trade.
What's the issue? You just have a price inclusive of VAT. It's really not that difficult. You're adding VAT as if UK customers are buying from overseas. It doesnt work like that.
The way they are doing it is correct. The price of the item is ยฃX, if the buyer is within the UK then 20% VAT is charged. Which part of that do you think is inaccurate? Because in the UK the price you see is the price you pay. No hiding the tax element. The only time that it is permitted to advertise the price as before tax is if you are selling to business/trade. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 20:07:51 GMT 1, But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair
You're in danger of customers claiming refunds on the 'hidden' element. I think Trading Standards would take a very dim view
But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair You're in danger of customers claiming refunds on the 'hidden' element. I think Trading Standards would take a very dim view |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 20:13:26 GMT 1, This is going to be a fun case
This is going to be a fun case
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by ecudat on Apr 1, 2021 20:29:48 GMT 1, But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair
This is literally what every other seller in other countries do. UK buyers get hit at customs.
You're a UK-based store, so have to abide by UK tax rules. Seems like not a good idea to help out others if it puts yourself at risk.
But then worldwide customers would pay vat at 20% then get import tax and charges thatโs not fair This is literally what every other seller in other countries do. UK buyers get hit at customs. You're a UK-based store, so have to abide by UK tax rules. Seems like not a good idea to help out others if it puts yourself at risk. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 21:01:14 GMT 1, Exactly, it is not legal and only goes to alienate a loyal fan base on home turf. Dissuading them from buying again.
I didnโt manage to get one but I will take this further. Worst thing is the print was for charity, shame on you GP
Exactly, it is not legal and only goes to alienate a loyal fan base on home turf. Dissuading them from buying again. I didnโt manage to get one but I will take this further. Worst thing is the print was for charity, shame on you GP |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Geezer Mate on Apr 1, 2021 21:01:24 GMT 1, Still sounds like crap why not just add it on at the start and say includes Vat that's what seems to happen in most other cases
Still sounds like crap why not just add it on at the start and say includes Vat that's what seems to happen in most other cases
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by ecudat on Apr 1, 2021 21:09:34 GMT 1, Still sounds like crap why not just add it on at the start and say includes Vat that's what seems to happen in most other cases
The logic was they didn't want to hit foreign buyers twice by charging it now and then their customs charging them. But that's not GP's problem and as others have said, it's not allowable under the system here I think.
Essentially if your revenues are high enough, you have to charge VAT on all goods that are sold to the public.
Still sounds like crap why not just add it on at the start and say includes Vat that's what seems to happen in most other cases The logic was they didn't want to hit foreign buyers twice by charging it now and then their customs charging them. But that's not GP's problem and as others have said, it's not allowable under the system here I think. Essentially if your revenues are high enough, you have to charge VAT on all goods that are sold to the public. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 21:10:40 GMT 1, If a foreign national walked into a shop in the UK and bought something, it is highly unlikely that the shop would remove the VAT at the point of sale.
If a foreign national walked into a shop in the UK and bought something, it is highly unlikely that the shop would remove the VAT at the point of sale.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:26:02 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 21:27:24 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
That ain't how it works here. Sorry.
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. That ain't how it works here. Sorry. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:31:18 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. That ain't how it works here. Sorry.
Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by ecudat on Apr 1, 2021 21:33:36 GMT 1, That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ
It's just UK tax rules. US is different.
It's not people being awkward.
That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ It's just UK tax rules. US is different. It's not people being awkward. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Matt on Apr 1, 2021 21:34:04 GMT 1, If a foreign national walked into a shop in the UK and bought something, it is highly unlikely that the shop would remove the VAT at the point of sale.
They won't because the question is not so much nationality but where the goods will be "consumed"
So if that same foreign national declares / proves that he took the goods with him when he left the country, he can in fact claim that VAT back (long process and high fees) and pay sales tax in his home country
If a foreign national walked into a shop in the UK and bought something, it is highly unlikely that the shop would remove the VAT at the point of sale. They won't because the question is not so much nationality but where the goods will be "consumed" So if that same foreign national declares / proves that he took the goods with him when he left the country, he can in fact claim that VAT back (long process and high fees) and pay sales tax in his home country |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 21:37:57 GMT 1, Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on..
Guessing NY is New York ? Then congratulations your correct
Is it really that deceiving having to calculate the total price? He made it clear it was ยฃ195 + VAT. International customers would have more merit being upset over paying a tax they are not subject to. My sales tax is 8.75%, I know anything I buy I have to add that on.. Guessing NY is New York ? Then congratulations your correct |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 21:42:05 GMT 1, Now GP can just double the prices of everything and remove the VAT completely to make everyone happy.
I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it.
Now GP can just double the prices of everything and remove the VAT completely to make everyone happy. I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Geezer Mate on Apr 1, 2021 21:50:43 GMT 1, At the end of the day they can charge what they want regardless. How do we know its not been factored in already. We dont. Boils down to what people are prepared to pay and what they consider a reasonable price. Christ, this is all getting tiring now. And to think that I was buying this to commemorate the loss of someone near and dear who took their own life saddens me even more. Most probably gone to flippers/ bots instead seeing as they sold out within 20 seconds.
It has tarnished the cause behind the release a real shame
At the end of the day they can charge what they want regardless. How do we know its not been factored in already. We dont. Boils down to what people are prepared to pay and what they consider a reasonable price. Christ, this is all getting tiring now. And to think that I was buying this to commemorate the loss of someone near and dear who took their own life saddens me even more. Most probably gone to flippers/ bots instead seeing as they sold out within 20 seconds.
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 21:51:15 GMT 1, That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ
An interesting one. The issue with postage is that VAT is charged on it if the product purchased is subject to VAT. If the goods are zero rated then so is the postage.
Edit...
It may also of course vary depending on the items being purchased. That's why it is 'calculated' at checkout.
That ain't how it works here. Sorry. Surprised your not upset about shipping cost not being included too. If โthe price you see is the price you pay.โ An interesting one. The issue with postage is that VAT is charged on it if the product purchased is subject to VAT. If the goods are zero rated then so is the postage. Edit... It may also of course vary depending on the items being purchased. That's why it is 'calculated' at checkout. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 22:04:41 GMT 1, I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it. I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund.
Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either.
I was thinking he could do a flat rate shipping. Charge everyone ยฃ40 - subsidize international shipping to make up for charging VAT to people who donโt owe it. I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund. Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Daylight Robber on Apr 1, 2021 22:15:52 GMT 1, I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund. Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either.
But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed.
I always get a VAT refund for being in the states after contacting the seller post purchase. I don't mind a few days of the money being tied up while I wait for the refund. Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either. But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by Sam Am on Apr 1, 2021 22:20:30 GMT 1, Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either. But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed.
Exactly , laws the law
Yeah itโs just a lot of leg work especially for a small business like GP. Refunding VAT on 50%+of his orders because people are upset they donโt wanna do math before they begin to buy seems tedious. I think some people just like an excuse to give him a hard time. He puts out a good product at fair prices and tries his best, cut him some slack. Sorry you didnโt get the last Whatson you wanted, I didnโt either. But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. Exactly , laws the law |
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Fanakapan ๐ฌ๐ง Street Art โข Print Release โข Art For Sale , by NYart on Apr 1, 2021 22:22:20 GMT 1, But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. Exactly , laws the law
Iโm not debating the law, merely the outrage expressed over the trivial difference between when tax is calculated. Who really cares..
But they're the rules of the country in which his business is based. They're what the citizens of the country in which he does business are used to and what they should quite rightly expect to be followed. Exactly , laws the law Iโm not debating the law, merely the outrage expressed over the trivial difference between when tax is calculated. Who really cares.. |
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even from a flipper . That piece has special meaning and I really would like it have it hang on my sonโs room . 
