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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 11:26:58 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 11:29:31 GMT 1, Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree.
Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree. Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by crank on Jul 2, 2016 11:39:23 GMT 1, Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip.
I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh.
Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip.
I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jul 2, 2016 11:48:03 GMT 1, Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree. Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time.
I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky?
Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree. Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky? |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jul 2, 2016 11:50:33 GMT 1, Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky?
His own, we know Daniel is a Tory...'elistism. Snobbery. Establishment'
Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky? His own, we know Daniel is a Tory...'elistism. Snobbery. Establishment' |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by chads007 on Jul 2, 2016 11:51:46 GMT 1,
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by nex on Jul 2, 2016 11:52:07 GMT 1, Can we please all stop pointing out that the FTSE 100 is up to use that as 'proof' that the economy is fine. The FTSE 100 is mainly made up of foreign companies taking advantage of a weak Pound. The FTSE 250 is a much more broad and accurate barometer for how out money is looking right now. Te governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has said that the BoE is prepared to pump ยฃ250 billion pounds into the economy as a emergency measure, has warned of a looming recession and has said that the outcome is 'bleak'. He is a far more astute and clever money man than I will ever be and I would say more than anybody on here. He has no reason to put any 'spin' on anything so I believe him far more than any 'snippets of facts' coming from the pro Leave camp. The fact that Farage criticised his outlook shows just what a snivelling clueless littles**t Farage is. So to recap: Pound has fallen Racist attacks up 500% FTSE250 has nose dived Boris has effectively done a runner as he never wanted to leave. UKIP now have a bigger toehold in uk politics. Mark Carney predicts major problems ahead. Scotland very like to have 2nd referendum and split the union. Spain trying to grab Gibraltar in joint sovereignty. For the first time ever Gibraltar are actually considering it. Cornwall, one of the UK's poorest regions, demanding the ยฃ60 million a year the EU gave them. Several large employers considering moving HQs abroad Tatar Steel deal fell through due to uncertainty of Brexit. Savers will be hit hard when interest rates get cut. But, hey, none of his matters as we all 'took our country back' and 'made Britain great again'
Facts and evidence the preserve of elitist snobs im afraid !
Can we please all stop pointing out that the FTSE 100 is up to use that as 'proof' that the economy is fine. The FTSE 100 is mainly made up of foreign companies taking advantage of a weak Pound. The FTSE 250 is a much more broad and accurate barometer for how out money is looking right now. Te governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has said that the BoE is prepared to pump ยฃ250 billion pounds into the economy as a emergency measure, has warned of a looming recession and has said that the outcome is 'bleak'. He is a far more astute and clever money man than I will ever be and I would say more than anybody on here. He has no reason to put any 'spin' on anything so I believe him far more than any 'snippets of facts' coming from the pro Leave camp. The fact that Farage criticised his outlook shows just what a snivelling clueless littles**t Farage is. So to recap: Pound has fallen Racist attacks up 500% FTSE250 has nose dived Boris has effectively done a runner as he never wanted to leave. UKIP now have a bigger toehold in uk politics. Mark Carney predicts major problems ahead. Scotland very like to have 2nd referendum and split the union. Spain trying to grab Gibraltar in joint sovereignty. For the first time ever Gibraltar are actually considering it. Cornwall, one of the UK's poorest regions, demanding the ยฃ60 million a year the EU gave them. Several large employers considering moving HQs abroad Tatar Steel deal fell through due to uncertainty of Brexit. Savers will be hit hard when interest rates get cut. But, hey, none of his matters as we all 'took our country back' and 'made Britain great again' Facts and evidence the preserve of elitist snobs im afraid ! |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 12:21:53 GMT 1, Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky?
Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky? I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jul 2, 2016 13:08:09 GMT 1, Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip. I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh.
I am so sorry that this has happened to you fiancรฉ, or to anyone else. Appalling.
Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip. I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh. I am so sorry that this has happened to you fiancรฉ, or to anyone else. Appalling. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Cornish Crayon on Jul 2, 2016 13:08:30 GMT 1, I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky? I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own.ย
I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction......
This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!!
I just don't see it. What posts are you referring to silky? I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own.ย I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!! |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 13:14:42 GMT 1, In my view, people tend to be emotional rather than purely rational creatures.
Forgive me if that's a statement of the obvious, but the leave vote has very much been a result of people believing their 'feelings' to of been ignored. This now needs to be addressed with rational and objective debate sure enough, but also with a true sense of empathy and understanding, on all sides. Without empathy and understanding, I can only see the anti-Intellectualism in society getting worse.
In my view, people tend to be emotional rather than purely rational creatures.
Forgive me if that's a statement of the obvious, but the leave vote has very much been a result of people believing their 'feelings' to of been ignored. This now needs to be addressed with rational and objective debate sure enough, but also with a true sense of empathy and understanding, on all sides. Without empathy and understanding, I can only see the anti-Intellectualism in society getting worse.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by tartarus on Jul 2, 2016 13:17:55 GMT 1, I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own. I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!!
You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best.
I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own. I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!! I have to be first to say i went OTT. had a pop at coach he didn't deserve, a little bolw at Harvyn too! You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 13:22:48 GMT 1, I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own. I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!!
I'm not going to highlight posts as examples but you can see it everywhere. People making personal attacks on others purely due to them believing rightly and sometimes wrongly that the other person has a different opinion to their own. I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!! Attacks on individuals has nothing to do with the debates and only discourages fair and balanced discussion. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jul 2, 2016 13:23:27 GMT 1, Can we please all stop pointing out that the FTSE 100 is up to use that as 'proof' that the economy is fine. The FTSE 100 is mainly made up of foreign companies taking advantage of a weak Pound. The FTSE 250 is a much more broad and accurate barometer for how out money is looking right now. Te governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has said that the BoE is prepared to pump ยฃ250 billion pounds into the economy as a emergency measure, has warned of a looming recession and has said that the outcome is 'bleak'. He is a far more astute and clever money man than I will ever be and I would say more than anybody on here. He has no reason to put any 'spin' on anything so I believe him far more than any 'snippets of facts' coming from the pro Leave camp. The fact that Farage criticised his outlook shows just what a snivelling clueless littles**t Farage is. So to recap: Pound has fallen Racist attacks up 500% FTSE250 has nose dived Boris has effectively done a runner as he never wanted to leave. UKIP now have a bigger toehold in uk politics. Mark Carney predicts major problems ahead. Scotland very like to have 2nd referendum and split the union. Spain trying to grab Gibraltar in joint sovereignty. For the first time ever Gibraltar are actually considering it. Cornwall, one of the UK's poorest regions, demanding the ยฃ60 million a year the EU gave them. Several large employers considering moving HQs abroad Tatar Steel deal fell through due to uncertainty of Brexit. Savers will be hit hard when interest rates get cut. But, hey, none of his matters as we all 'took our country back' and 'made Britain great again'
Then why is it fine to use the fact the FTSE 100 went down as proof that Brexit is bad? We'll do just fine not being in the EU, bankers will continue to be wankers, politicians will continue to blame everyone but themselves and we wil and carry on flipping art and blaming it on the art police. As you were.
Can we please all stop pointing out that the FTSE 100 is up to use that as 'proof' that the economy is fine. The FTSE 100 is mainly made up of foreign companies taking advantage of a weak Pound. The FTSE 250 is a much more broad and accurate barometer for how out money is looking right now. Te governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, has said that the BoE is prepared to pump ยฃ250 billion pounds into the economy as a emergency measure, has warned of a looming recession and has said that the outcome is 'bleak'. He is a far more astute and clever money man than I will ever be and I would say more than anybody on here. He has no reason to put any 'spin' on anything so I believe him far more than any 'snippets of facts' coming from the pro Leave camp. The fact that Farage criticised his outlook shows just what a snivelling clueless littles**t Farage is. So to recap: Pound has fallen Racist attacks up 500% FTSE250 has nose dived Boris has effectively done a runner as he never wanted to leave. UKIP now have a bigger toehold in uk politics. Mark Carney predicts major problems ahead. Scotland very like to have 2nd referendum and split the union. Spain trying to grab Gibraltar in joint sovereignty. For the first time ever Gibraltar are actually considering it. Cornwall, one of the UK's poorest regions, demanding the ยฃ60 million a year the EU gave them. Several large employers considering moving HQs abroad Tatar Steel deal fell through due to uncertainty of Brexit. Savers will be hit hard when interest rates get cut. But, hey, none of his matters as we all 'took our country back' and 'made Britain great again' Then why is it fine to use the fact the FTSE 100 went down as proof that Brexit is bad? We'll do just fine not being in the EU, bankers will continue to be wankers, politicians will continue to blame everyone but themselves and we wil and carry on flipping art and blaming it on the art police. As you were. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 14:06:30 GMT 1, @danielsilk
As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control?
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As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control?
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 14:27:02 GMT 1, @danielsilk
As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control?
Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control?
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As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control? Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control? |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jul 2, 2016 14:41:49 GMT 1, I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!! I have to be first to say i went OTT. had a pop at coach he didn't deserve, a little bolw at Harvyn too!ย You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best.
Hey, no worries at all my friend. We are all good.
I thought that you actively encouraged debates and opinons on here, are you now saying that you think people go to far, do you have limits set in place Daniel as it now sounds like a bit of a contradiction...... This kind of thing was minimal and kept in tow when you had guardians on board, it's a shame things have changed, but it's for the better yes....!! I have to be first to say i went OTT. had a pop at coach he didn't deserve, a little bolw at Harvyn too!ย You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best. Hey, no worries at all my friend. We are all good. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 14:58:28 GMT 1, @danielsilk
As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control? Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control?
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As a campaigner for the Leave camp, how do you feel about what the electorate now know they were lied to about regarding the NHS and immigration control? Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control? Go on, have a guess. Here's a clue to one of them - ยฃ350m. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 15:03:04 GMT 1, Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control? Go on, have a guess. Here's a clue to one of them - ยฃ350m.
Are we currently out of the EU? No.
Have we stopped paying into the EU? No.
Can you tell me what the lies were about the NHS and Immigration control? Go on, have a guess. Here's a clue to one of them - ยฃ350m. Are we currently out of the EU? No. Have we stopped paying into the EU? No. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by crank on Jul 2, 2016 15:03:39 GMT 1, Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip. I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh. I am so sorry that this has happened to you fiancรฉ, or to anyone else. Appalling.
Thanks coach. To be honest I'm sick of tired of the Polish getting the blame for everything in society. Now the Leave vote won it's just seen as open season on them.
As I said before not all Leave voters are racists but all racists will be Leave voters. Ask most of the UKIP, EDL, BNP members in this country what they think about the Polish (or any immigrant for that matter) and you'll see the ugly side of British society.
Well the next time my Polish fiancรฉ is told 'it's time to get out' like she was last week I'll show her that funny Dad's Army clip. I'm sure she'll see the bright side and laugh. I am so sorry that this has happened to you fiancรฉ, or to anyone else. Appalling. Thanks coach. To be honest I'm sick of tired of the Polish getting the blame for everything in society. Now the Leave vote won it's just seen as open season on them. As I said before not all Leave voters are racists but all racists will be Leave voters. Ask most of the UKIP, EDL, BNP members in this country what they think about the Polish (or any immigrant for that matter) and you'll see the ugly side of British society. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Harveyn on Jul 2, 2016 15:06:25 GMT 1, I have to be first to say i went OTT. had a pop at coach he didn't deserve, a little bolw at Harvyn too! You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best. Hey, no worries at all my friend. We are all good. All good hear as well. Nothing wrong with different points of view and healthy debate. You can only educate and question yourself if you come to the table willing to listen to the other point of view.
What I can't be bothered with is people who are intentionally antagonistic, people who are only out to point score and people with closed minds.
I have to be first to say i went OTT. had a pop at coach he didn't deserve, a little bolw at Harvyn too! You know who i blame (apart from my temperament obviously!), the guy that started all these politics threads on an already pretty angsty art forum! And just for the sake of upping the post numbers! Bad move i think. Your move to make, but possibly not for the best. Hey, no worries at all my friend. We are all good. All good hear as well. Nothing wrong with different points of view and healthy debate. You can only educate and question yourself if you come to the table willing to listen to the other point of view.
What I can't be bothered with is people who are intentionally antagonistic, people who are only out to point score and people with closed minds.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 15:06:50 GMT 1, Go on, have a guess. Here's a clue to one of them - ยฃ350m. Are we currently out of the EU? No. Have we stopped paying into the EU? No.
Go on, have a guess. Here's a clue to one of them - ยฃ350m. Are we currently out of the EU? No. Have we stopped paying into the EU? No. Are you in denial of the original question? Yes. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 15:16:33 GMT 1, Are we currently out of the EU? No. Have we stopped paying into the EU? No. Are you in denial of the original question? Yes.
Are we currently out of the EU? No. Have we stopped paying into the EU? No. Are you in denial of the original question? Yes. You can't spend 350 million on anything if you don't actually have it yet to spend, and your not in a position of power to make the decision on what to spend it on. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by mutatis on Jul 2, 2016 15:55:13 GMT 1, Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree. Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time.
I agree - just like the casual racism and sexism on here - it's all a reflection of society at large -so nothing new or alarming
Or maybe elistism. Snobbery. Establishment. People that look down on others. Bullies. Education or intellect doesn't make someone automatically right. I find it amazing that a lot of card carrying socialist that like to promote freedom of speech and equality love to look down on others in the name of intellect. Some of the most well educated people I've ever met happen to be some of the dumbest people too. But that's only the opinion of a working class lad with only one degree. Very very true! We see this across this forum all the time. I agree - just like the casual racism and sexism on here - it's all a reflection of society at large -so nothing new or alarming |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jul 2, 2016 16:21:27 GMT 1, It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong.
It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Coach on Jul 2, 2016 16:42:18 GMT 1, It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong.
I think I know what you are alluding to.
If you are talking about Corbyn, I read that he was "held back" by aides. No doubt angry. But is that squaring up to her? Squaring up suggests a threat of violence.
It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong. I think I know what you are alluding to. If you are talking about Corbyn, I read that he was "held back" by aides. No doubt angry. But is that squaring up to her? Squaring up suggests a threat of violence. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jul 2, 2016 17:02:15 GMT 1, There's video of it dude. Looks like he lost his temper a little. To be fair I think I'd have lost my rag too.
There's video of it dude. Looks like he lost his temper a little. To be fair I think I'd have lost my rag too.
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 17:14:49 GMT 1, It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong. I think I know what you are alluding to. If you are talking about Corbyn, I read that he was "held back" by aides. No doubt angry. But is that squaring up to her? Squaring up suggests a threat of violence.
It's a good job none of us square up to female journalist... That would be really wrong. I think I know what you are alluding to. If you are talking about Corbyn, I read that he was "held back" by aides. No doubt angry. But is that squaring up to her? Squaring up suggests a threat of violence. |
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The UK's EU Referendum - 23rd June 2016., by iamzero on Jul 2, 2016 17:25:05 GMT 1, Doesn't count... Daily mail feed.
Doesn't count... Daily mail feed.
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