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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ray on Dec 9, 2007 16:04:04 GMT 1, f**king hell, my respect is up and down like a yo yo today..must have offended a few fat lazy ignorant westerners earlier   brush your teeth
Now that's funny 
f**king hell, my respect is up and down like a yo yo today..must have offended a few fat lazy ignorant westerners earlier brush your teeth Now that's funny |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by graeme501 on Dec 9, 2007 16:29:58 GMT 1, add my name 2 the list of ppl going
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by corblimeylimey on Dec 9, 2007 16:38:19 GMT 1, add my name 2 the list of ppl going
Did you get a sponsor?
add my name 2 the list of ppl going Did you get a sponsor? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by graeme501 on Dec 9, 2007 17:49:35 GMT 1, i sure did ;D
i sure did ;D
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 9, 2007 18:00:00 GMT 1, Amazing Graeme! - really pleased that worked out off for you! you lucky sod!
Amazing Graeme! - really pleased that worked out off for you! you lucky sod!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ejvaze on Dec 9, 2007 18:02:44 GMT 1,
For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in
NOT TRUE you'll make it OK.
The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there. 
For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in NOT TRUE you'll make it OK. The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by graeme501 on Dec 9, 2007 18:08:17 GMT 1, cheers
every1 on the forum has been really helpful, especially vazie, alabaster and stuey
cheers
every1 on the forum has been really helpful, especially vazie, alabaster and stuey
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 9, 2007 18:08:28 GMT 1, For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in NOT TRUE you'll make it OK. The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there.
Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it ok to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return?
For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in NOT TRUE you'll make it OK. The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there. Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it ok to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by corblimeylimey on Dec 9, 2007 18:11:07 GMT 1,
Well done!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Viva Hate on Dec 9, 2007 18:11:22 GMT 1, Couple more on the list for next week. Monstris Benya Nu Stuey09 Bob1 gozgoz : there now ? Sham 69 Boatinbenny Viva hate Vazie : Been there done that Bongo : Been there done that PMs and +1 all round...I don't think Bethlehem will know what hit it.
Couple more on the list for next week. Monstris Benya Nu Stuey09 Bob1 gozgoz : there now ? Sham 69 Boatinbenny Viva hate Vazie : Been there done that Bongo : Been there done that PMs and +1 all round...I don't think Bethlehem will know what hit it. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by twigboy on Dec 9, 2007 18:17:50 GMT 1, Going in to Bethlehem, its best to say you are visiting the Chruch of Nativity, and when going through
checkpoints at the Airport and inside the airport, say you have been staying in Telaviv.. on Holiday
Going in to Bethlehem, its best to say you are visiting the Chruch of Nativity, and when going through
checkpoints at the Airport and inside the airport, say you have been staying in Telaviv.. on Holiday
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 9, 2007 18:17:57 GMT 1, For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in NOT TRUE you'll make it OK. The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there. Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it ok to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return?
I'm sure Vazie will be able to give you a more up to date response, seeing as I went there 3 years ago and she just came back! but yes they will ask you why...simple...say you're going to the church of nativity! I think that's prob better than saying the ghetto...what do you think Vazie?
and yes they will check you leave but there shouldn't be any probs, be polite and cooperative - no matter how idiotic some of the gun toting 16 year olds act and enjoy your trip!
For all those going IGNORE the Hotel they told me like Goz that I wouldn't get in NOT TRUE you'll make it OK. The Israelis just don't want us going or seeing what is going on in there. Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it ok to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return? I'm sure Vazie will be able to give you a more up to date response, seeing as I went there 3 years ago and she just came back! but yes they will ask you why...simple...say you're going to the church of nativity! I think that's prob better than saying the ghetto...what do you think Vazie? and yes they will check you leave but there shouldn't be any probs, be polite and cooperative - no matter how idiotic some of the gun toting 16 year olds act and enjoy your trip! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 9, 2007 18:20:59 GMT 1, make that 14 nuart +1 someone has been busy! will try and + when I can. Keep speaking your mind, if people object I think they should have the guts to tell you why, not to secretly neg.
peace
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make that 14 nuart +1 someone has been busy! will try and + when I can. Keep speaking your mind, if people object I think they should have the guts to tell you why, not to secretly neg.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 9, 2007 18:24:05 GMT 1, Good answers Twigboy and Valeha. All useful, so many thanks to you both.
Good answers Twigboy and Valeha. All useful, so many thanks to you both.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 9, 2007 18:30:22 GMT 1, no probs. enjoy am quite gutted I can't go. hey ho! atleast there will be plenty of tales for the group of forum members that are going!
I wish you all a safe and pleasant trip, have a great one and take loads of pics!
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no probs. enjoy am quite gutted I can't go. hey ho! atleast there will be plenty of tales for the group of forum members that are going!
I wish you all a safe and pleasant trip, have a great one and take loads of pics!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by twigboy on Dec 9, 2007 18:31:53 GMT 1, I was out there a few months ago, and this is how it works...
When you leave Bethlehem, you will go through a check point... they will want to see you passport, and will ask a few questions.
Yeah... the Church of Nativity was great thanks... Short answers.
Then the next checkpoint you will go through is outside of the Airport... At this point you can say you were staying in
Telaviv on Holiday. the Girls were great, the beach was nice and I love your country... Yuck!... If you say you were
staying in Jeruselum, then they will sticker your passport..., try and get an israel taxi driver, if not and you are
with a palasinian driver, then make sure you both have your stories sorted, but you have never met the driver
before, and your hotel booked it for you... (never say you stayed in Bethlehem) then once in the airport, you will
be questioned again... Once again, say Telaviv, Holiday, Beach was nice, clubs were great (Yuck!) and all should
be good... its one of the most stringent security checks you will go though, but this is all part of the experience...
Good luck... I wish I could make it out there to see the show...
I was out there a few months ago, and this is how it works...
When you leave Bethlehem, you will go through a check point... they will want to see you passport, and will ask a few questions.
Yeah... the Church of Nativity was great thanks... Short answers.
Then the next checkpoint you will go through is outside of the Airport... At this point you can say you were staying in
Telaviv on Holiday. the Girls were great, the beach was nice and I love your country... Yuck!... If you say you were
staying in Jeruselum, then they will sticker your passport..., try and get an israel taxi driver, if not and you are
with a palasinian driver, then make sure you both have your stories sorted, but you have never met the driver
before, and your hotel booked it for you... (never say you stayed in Bethlehem) then once in the airport, you will
be questioned again... Once again, say Telaviv, Holiday, Beach was nice, clubs were great (Yuck!) and all should
be good... its one of the most stringent security checks you will go though, but this is all part of the experience...
Good luck... I wish I could make it out there to see the show...
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by twigboy on Dec 9, 2007 18:36:47 GMT 1, Short answers, and let them ask you the questions
Short answers, and let them ask you the questions
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by alsbabar on Dec 9, 2007 18:52:43 GMT 1, Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a shit time. Its all games they play with them.
There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience.
The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it.
Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab.
Here are my pictures taken of my time there
www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04
Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a shit time. Its all games they play with them. There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience. The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it. Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab. Here are my pictures taken of my time there www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04 |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 9, 2007 18:57:59 GMT 1, Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a s**t time. Its all games they play with them. There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience. The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it. Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab. Here are my pictures taken of my time there www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04
Great post Alsbabar.
Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a s**t time. Its all games they play with them. There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience. The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it. Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab. Here are my pictures taken of my time there www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04Great post Alsbabar. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by alsbabar on Dec 9, 2007 19:04:18 GMT 1, cheers stuey - and i should also mention that the people who put this whole thing together, there intentions really are sincere and the impact it has had on the Palestinians is truly appreciated, as they know it brings awareness to them and their plight. So the more of us who do go out, and support this cause, and the more the word gets around, the less their suffering is, as they know that the world does care.
POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud
cheers stuey - and i should also mention that the people who put this whole thing together, there intentions really are sincere and the impact it has had on the Palestinians is truly appreciated, as they know it brings awareness to them and their plight. So the more of us who do go out, and support this cause, and the more the word gets around, the less their suffering is, as they know that the world does care.
POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ejvaze on Dec 9, 2007 19:07:00 GMT 1, Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it OK to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return? I'm sure Vazie will be able to give you a more up to date response, seeing as I went there 3 years ago and she just came back! but yes they will ask you why...simple...say you're going to the church of nativity! I think that's prob better than saying the ghetto...what do you think Vazie? and yes they will check you leave but there shouldn't be any probs, be polite and cooperative - no matter how idiotic some of the gun toting 16 year olds act and enjoy your trip!
YES say your going to
The Church of the Nativity
AND when you get there as well as the Getto go and look in the Church I mean it after all it is the place were Jesus was born you can see the Actual manger
Male security Guards ? ;D
There were Female security guards when I went through and BELIEVE ME they are WORSE than MALE GUARDS ;D
Don't ask me about going IN to Bethlehem
I have edited my original post to protect those that got me to the boarder 
The truth is I had NO problems going IN
It was just getting OUT late at night and having to deal with a serley FEMALE GUARD a male guard had to calm things down before I blew  or I might be still there now held in some cell  ;D
Don't do as this Little Lady did but  make sure you BITE YOUR LIP AND BE NICE DO NOT ANSWER BACK OR GET ANNOYED WITH THE GUARDS.
DO NOT GET THEM ANNOYED I am sure a male guard would NOT help you out and clam the situation down. I had the advantaqge that I was a woman and HE LIKED ME
MY advice when going IN say you are going for TOURISM and to SEE THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY and NOT SANTA'S GHETTO
We don't want the Ghetto closed down do we ;D
Am I to take it that it is an Israeli manned checkpoint that we'll have to go through in order to get in? Do they ask your reason for entering? and is it OK to just let them know you're going in for the SG exhibition? Also, am I correct in assuming that it is Israeli army who man the checkpoint when you return? I'm sure Vazie will be able to give you a more up to date response, seeing as I went there 3 years ago and she just came back! but yes they will ask you why...simple...say you're going to the church of nativity! I think that's prob better than saying the ghetto...what do you think Vazie? and yes they will check you leave but there shouldn't be any probs, be polite and cooperative - no matter how idiotic some of the gun toting 16 year olds act and enjoy your trip!
The Church of the Nativity
AND when you get there as well as the Getto go and look in the Church I mean it after all it is the place were Jesus was born you can see the Actual manger Male security Guards ? ;D There were Female security guards when I went through and BELIEVE ME they are WORSE than MALE GUARDS ;D Don't ask me about going IN to Bethlehem I have edited my original post to protect those that got me to the boarder The truth is I had NO problems going IN It was just getting OUT late at night and having to deal with a serley FEMALE GUARD a male guard had to calm things down before I blew or I might be still there now held in some cell ;D Don't do as this Little Lady did but make sure you BITE YOUR LIP AND BE NICE DO NOT ANSWER BACK OR GET ANNOYED WITH THE GUARDS. DO NOT GET THEM ANNOYED I am sure a male guard would NOT help you out and clam the situation down. I had the advantaqge that I was a woman and HE LIKED ME MY advice when going IN say you are going for TOURISM and to SEE THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY and NOT SANTA'S GHETTO We don't want the Ghetto closed down do we ;D |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by graeme501 on Dec 9, 2007 19:09:27 GMT 1, "hi im here 2 c santas ghetto .... oh come on, every1 knows hoo banksy is"
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"hi im here 2 c santas ghetto .... oh come on, every1 knows hoo banksy is"
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shavemysoul on Dec 9, 2007 19:10:18 GMT 1, Thanks for the photos alsbabar. Fantastic! +1
Thanks for the photos alsbabar. Fantastic! +1
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by alsbabar on Dec 9, 2007 19:16:09 GMT 1, i put some guide prices in my photos also so you can get some idea of the value of what is being sold
i put some guide prices in my photos also so you can get some idea of the value of what is being sold
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by finsburyparkranger on Dec 9, 2007 19:17:24 GMT 1,
I'll second that.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ejvaze on Dec 9, 2007 19:21:49 GMT 1, cheers stuey - and i should also mention that the people who put this whole thing together, there intentions really are sincere and the impact it has had on the Palestinians is truly appreciated, as they know it brings awareness to them and their plight. So the more of us who do go out, and support this cause, and the more the word gets around, the less their suffering is, as they know that the world does care. POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud
Alibastar GREAT photos of both the Ghetto and the Wall.
Great to see they got the rest of the stuff out of customs, that was my only disappointment arriving and not everything was there.
I agree with you
'POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud"
They put this show together in a VERY SHORT time they have done a FANTASTIC job 
cheers stuey - and i should also mention that the people who put this whole thing together, there intentions really are sincere and the impact it has had on the Palestinians is truly appreciated, as they know it brings awareness to them and their plight. So the more of us who do go out, and support this cause, and the more the word gets around, the less their suffering is, as they know that the world does care. POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud Alibastar GREAT photos of both the Ghetto and the Wall. Great to see they got the rest of the stuff out of customs, that was my only disappointment arriving and not everything was there. I agree with you 'POW, the artist and the locals who are out there day in day out making the statement, should feel proud" They put this show together in a VERY SHORT time they have done a FANTASTIC job |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 9, 2007 19:28:31 GMT 1, Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a s**t time. Its all games they play with them. There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience. The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it. Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab. Here are my pictures taken of my time there www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04
excellent mate, big respect for making the trip and cheers for the photos.
Just got back (late last night) from the Ghetto - the less you mention Bethlehem the better - the Israelis have no interest or comprehension of the Ghetto. Anyone who goes to Bethlehem for tourism will still be subjected to questioning, so best advice is, and the Ghetto also states it, JUST SAY YOU ARE GOING TO JERUSALEM. When you go, definitely get a taxi, get a yellow plated one, that takes you to the checkpoint, you will walk through, when you show your passport, they only give Palestinians a s**t time. Its all games they play with them. There are a lot more work at the Ghetto then there is on site - you dont get a full comprehension of the beauty of the work, until you see them in the flesh. Anyone who is pondering going, just do it, its a fantastic opportunity and a fantastic experience. The Wall, you seen on tv, but you dont realise the magnitude and misery of it, till you get to see it. Palestinians truly are friendly, and will welcome you with a big smile, the falafels are awesome and make sure you have a Shwarma Kebab. Here are my pictures taken of my time there www.flickr.com/photos/21683697@N04excellent mate, big respect for making the trip and cheers for the photos. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 9, 2007 19:38:51 GMT 1, More info from Goz...who's desperately in need of sleep....
"Tell evryone to come. If they are afraid and scared, tell them. Its the safest freaking place. I feel safer here than in my house in kings cross.
Also, I used a taxi guide who brought me everywhere since 7 this morning for a 6 hour tour. His name is nayef and his mobile is 052 2244962 he's brilliannt. I had a in depth account of the situation and he shows u all the art and brings u to places for food too. All for 50 usd.
But honestly, the art fades in the background once u are here. Its the saddest place ever. With the happiest people.
Although the touts get to u though."
More info from Goz...who's desperately in need of sleep....
"Tell evryone to come. If they are afraid and scared, tell them. Its the safest freaking place. I feel safer here than in my house in kings cross.
Also, I used a taxi guide who brought me everywhere since 7 this morning for a 6 hour tour. His name is nayef and his mobile is 052 2244962 he's brilliannt. I had a in depth account of the situation and he shows u all the art and brings u to places for food too. All for 50 usd.
But honestly, the art fades in the background once u are here. Its the saddest place ever. With the happiest people.
Although the touts get to u though."
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by corblimeylimey on Dec 9, 2007 19:41:38 GMT 1, Top stuff alsbabar & vazie, well done for going, and well done for team Banksy forum who are all going next week, take care, and I hope you all have a safe journey, get the experiences and bring back stories.
Top stuff alsbabar & vazie, well done for going, and well done for team Banksy forum who are all going next week, take care, and I hope you all have a safe journey, get the experiences and bring back stories.
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or I might be still there now held in some cell 
;D
make sure you BITE YOUR LIP AND BE NICE DO NOT ANSWER BACK OR GET ANNOYED WITH THE GUARDS. 
