Harveyn
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Harveyn on Apr 22, 2017 17:08:49 GMT 1, I think he is a super talented artist but ยฃ50k for any original by him at this point is total madness. There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back. There huge gaps in his CV. No sustained auction results from credible auction houses Not housed in the permanent collection of any notable museum Not represented by an internationally recognised gallery I am not sure he has actually ticked one box for me yet to warrant that sort of money. Super talented for sure. I think a little early to discount his qualifications only having his first solo show less than a year ago and a whole 5 print drops into his career, all immediate sell outs. IMO he definitely ticks all the boxes for being on a path to great success and gets huge respect for doing it organically. Not many that travel the world doing pieces exhibiting such diversity, creative talent and deep meaning. All this and still showing great restraint with what is commercially released, only 550 prints total to date, and even more restraint with originals. To be this successful so early in a career is rare and IMO if he continues on this path he will just increase exposure, demand and most likely continue to keep supply low as it seems to be his MO. If I had to pick a single artist for the most future potential it would be Pejac hands down.
I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones.
I think he is a super talented artist but ยฃ50k for any original by him at this point is total madness. There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back. There huge gaps in his CV. No sustained auction results from credible auction houses Not housed in the permanent collection of any notable museum Not represented by an internationally recognised gallery I am not sure he has actually ticked one box for me yet to warrant that sort of money. Super talented for sure. I think a little early to discount his qualifications only having his first solo show less than a year ago and a whole 5 print drops into his career, all immediate sell outs. IMO he definitely ticks all the boxes for being on a path to great success and gets huge respect for doing it organically. Not many that travel the world doing pieces exhibiting such diversity, creative talent and deep meaning. All this and still showing great restraint with what is commercially released, only 550 prints total to date, and even more restraint with originals. To be this successful so early in a career is rare and IMO if he continues on this path he will just increase exposure, demand and most likely continue to keep supply low as it seems to be his MO. If I had to pick a single artist for the most future potential it would be Pejac hands down. I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones. |
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by sircoxson on Apr 22, 2017 17:44:49 GMT 1, I think a little early to discount his qualifications only having his first solo show less than a year ago and a whole 5 print drops into his career, all immediate sell outs. IMO he definitely ticks all the boxes for being on a path to great success and gets huge respect for doing it organically. Not many that travel the world doing pieces exhibiting such diversity, creative talent and deep meaning. All this and still showing great restraint with what is commercially released, only 550 prints total to date, and even more restraint with originals. To be this successful so early in a career is rare and IMO if he continues on this path he will just increase exposure, demand and most likely continue to keep supply low as it seems to be his MO. If I had to pick a single artist for the most future potential it would be Pejac hands down. I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones.
sorry, that's not what you said, harvey...
you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction").
good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days...
I think a little early to discount his qualifications only having his first solo show less than a year ago and a whole 5 print drops into his career, all immediate sell outs. IMO he definitely ticks all the boxes for being on a path to great success and gets huge respect for doing it organically. Not many that travel the world doing pieces exhibiting such diversity, creative talent and deep meaning. All this and still showing great restraint with what is commercially released, only 550 prints total to date, and even more restraint with originals. To be this successful so early in a career is rare and IMO if he continues on this path he will just increase exposure, demand and most likely continue to keep supply low as it seems to be his MO. If I had to pick a single artist for the most future potential it would be Pejac hands down. I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones. sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... |
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jB
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by jB on Apr 22, 2017 17:45:27 GMT 1, biggie
on that note if anyone has any idea where I can get an original meadow, I will sell my HF meadow print in a heart beat. Forum member owns it. Dont think you will get much change from ยฃ50k
biggieon that note if anyone has any idea where I can get an original meadow, I will sell my HF meadow print in a heart beat. Forum member owns it. Dont think you will get much change from ยฃ50k
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huxleypig
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by huxleypig on Apr 22, 2017 17:45:34 GMT 1, Looking for Meadow (regular) and Wound (preferably HF) - please PM with what you've got, cash waiting, UK based. Thanks
Looking for Meadow (regular) and Wound (preferably HF) - please PM with what you've got, cash waiting, UK based. Thanks
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Alpha Cap
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Alpha Cap on Apr 22, 2017 17:51:11 GMT 1, Looking for Linea. Thanks
Looking for Linea. Thanks
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Fะฏ
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Fะฏ on Apr 22, 2017 17:57:48 GMT 1, biggieForum member owns it. Dont think you will get much change from ยฃ50k
Referring to the meadow original in this case.
Not all originals.
Ask the owner 
biggieForum member owns it. Dont think you will get much change from ยฃ50k Referring to the meadow original in this case. Not all originals. Ask the owner |
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mla
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by mla on Apr 22, 2017 17:58:02 GMT 1, I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones. sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days...
Harveyn's post was a very sensible critique. I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?
What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date.
I am pretty sure that's what I said unless you think that a single work by someone with super talent at the start of a career that shows huge promise is already valued at ยฃ50k. I just think that's crazy talk at this point when his Cv needs much more flesh on its bones. sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac? What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. |
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by milo99 on Apr 22, 2017 18:04:59 GMT 1, Whys he so sought after already then? Doesn't look that interesting to me
Whys he so sought after already then? Doesn't look that interesting to me
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sircoxson
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by sircoxson on Apr 22, 2017 18:05:14 GMT 1, sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย
first of all, english is not my first language, so there might be lost some nuances in translation...
and yes, I have an interest in Pejac owning some works. for me, I don't care for the numbers stated in this thread as I am intending to keep my collection together. I have probably sold 6-8 prints since 2009, so I like to see my art on the wall.
sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย first of all, english is not my first language, so there might be lost some nuances in translation... and yes, I have an interest in Pejac owning some works. for me, I don't care for the numbers stated in this thread as I am intending to keep my collection together. I have probably sold 6-8 prints since 2009, so I like to see my art on the wall. |
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milo99
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by milo99 on Apr 22, 2017 18:12:36 GMT 1, Harveyn's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย first of all, english is not my first language, so there might be lost some nuances in translation... and yes, I have an interest in Pejac owning some works. for me, I don't care for the numbers stated in this thread as I am intending to keep my collection together. I have probably sold 6-8 prints since 2009, so I like to see my art on the wall.
Most of your threads are sale threads, cant like them on the wall that much ๐
Harveyn's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย first of all, english is not my first language, so there might be lost some nuances in translation... and yes, I have an interest in Pejac owning some works. for me, I don't care for the numbers stated in this thread as I am intending to keep my collection together. I have probably sold 6-8 prints since 2009, so I like to see my art on the wall. Most of your threads are sale threads, cant like them on the wall that much ๐ |
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by sl on Apr 22, 2017 18:17:42 GMT 1, Pejac is crazy talented and his street pieces are exceptional. Look up his street art if not familiar and you will be impressed. His use of environment to set the scene, even in his prints is outstanding.
Having said that 50k is bananas. His prints which are small editions sell for a couple of grand so even if an original is worth 10x no way would that make 50k.
Pejac is crazy talented and his street pieces are exceptional. Look up his street art if not familiar and you will be impressed. His use of environment to set the scene, even in his prints is outstanding.
Having said that 50k is bananas. His prints which are small editions sell for a couple of grand so even if an original is worth 10x no way would that make 50k.
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Harveyn
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Harveyn on Apr 22, 2017 18:20:39 GMT 1, What I said was he is super talented. What I also said that at such an earlier point in his career if you paid ยฃ50k for any original that was madness. Whether in 20 years time you loose money on that amonunt of course is a strong possibility but open for debate as it's way to early to make that judgement. If it was only about talent then life would be easy.
Say you pay today ยฃ50k for a work which in mind is proposuous and the guy gives up painting tomorrow. He does not have enough critical mass, he does not have a big enough body of work or ticks in the box to justify that sort of price tag today.
What I said was he is super talented. What I also said that at such an earlier point in his career if you paid ยฃ50k for any original that was madness. Whether in 20 years time you loose money on that amonunt of course is a strong possibility but open for debate as it's way to early to make that judgement. If it was only about talent then life would be easy.
Say you pay today ยฃ50k for a work which in mind is proposuous and the guy gives up painting tomorrow. He does not have enough critical mass, he does not have a big enough body of work or ticks in the box to justify that sort of price tag today.
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by sircoxson on Apr 22, 2017 18:26:43 GMT 1, ok, I am relieved most of us agree on Pejac's talent on the streets and in the studio.
I leave you guys alone now to discuss and define price levels for a non existing market. an art that many on here are surely experts in ๐
I am off the bar.
ok, I am relieved most of us agree on Pejac's talent on the streets and in the studio.
I leave you guys alone now to discuss and define price levels for a non existing market. an art that many on here are surely experts in ๐
I am off the bar.
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highflyer
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by highflyer on Apr 22, 2017 18:29:21 GMT 1, sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย
It could also be worth 5 times more. I like those odds and love the image. Win win
sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย It could also be worth 5 times more. I like those odds and love the image. Win win |
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Eton Groover
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Eton Groover on Apr 22, 2017 19:07:23 GMT 1, Keep the speculation for the stocks and shares.
There really is a bubble in here sometimes that doesn't bear any relation to reality.
ยฃ50k for a canvas... Hahaha!
Keep the speculation for the stocks and shares.
There really is a bubble in here sometimes that doesn't bear any relation to reality.
ยฃ50k for a canvas... Hahaha!
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highflyer
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by highflyer on Apr 22, 2017 19:24:11 GMT 1, Keep the speculation for the stocks and shares. There really is a bubble in here sometimes that doesn't bear any relation to reality. ยฃ50k for a canvas... Hahaha!
If there IS a bubble...then the bubble is a reality...so it bears complete relation to reality.
Man I can be annoying! But then laughing at other peeps estimate is also prob a little annoying.
Keep the speculation for the stocks and shares. There really is a bubble in here sometimes that doesn't bear any relation to reality. ยฃ50k for a canvas... Hahaha! If there IS a bubble...then the bubble is a reality...so it bears complete relation to reality. Man I can be annoying! But then laughing at other peeps estimate is also prob a little annoying. |
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 19:48:52 GMT 1,
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daniel3886
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by daniel3886 on Apr 22, 2017 19:52:05 GMT 1, Might be wrong but I think the most expensive work "Dumpster" at the last show was ยฃ27k. I know prices will be higher next time but 50k??? I think that kind of increase would set a few alarms ringing. Lets hope price increases are measured and sustainable.
Might be wrong but I think the most expensive work "Dumpster" at the last show was ยฃ27k. I know prices will be higher next time but 50k??? I think that kind of increase would set a few alarms ringing. Lets hope price increases are measured and sustainable.
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Apr 22, 2017 19:54:33 GMT 1, 50k wow! That must make your hand finished meadow at least ยฃ10k FR
50k wow! That must make your hand finished meadow at least ยฃ10k FR |
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Fะฏ
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Fะฏ on Apr 22, 2017 20:16:05 GMT 1,
No he didnt - i did. Everyone needs to chill!
I asked the very nice member what they would accept for meadow as a pie in the sky enquiry a long way back. Im sure they would not even sell it for that anyway as its beautiful.
Who knows what the next ones will cost. Certainly all over ยฃ15-ยฃ20k thats for sure.
The guy was asking where he could find a meadow and the answer is with that forum member! I was not referring to anything else.
No he didnt - i did. Everyone needs to chill! I asked the very nice member what they would accept for meadow as a pie in the sky enquiry a long way back. Im sure they would not even sell it for that anyway as its beautiful. Who knows what the next ones will cost. Certainly all over ยฃ15-ยฃ20k thats for sure. The guy was asking where he could find a meadow and the answer is with that forum member! I was not referring to anything else. |
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ferg
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highflyer
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Stop showing off!! :-) That one's massive. You must have a big house. |
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ferg
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ferg
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by ferg on Apr 22, 2017 22:47:12 GMT 1, 
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Viking Surfer
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by Viking Surfer on Apr 22, 2017 22:55:22 GMT 1, When you write out a really good massive post on pejac arguing both sides wonderfully and then your computer decides the internet is not going to work and doesn't post your message and decides you can't hit back and reclaim it either.
When you write out a really good massive post on pejac arguing both sides wonderfully and then your computer decides the internet is not going to work and doesn't post your message and decides you can't hit back and reclaim it either.
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by nex on Apr 22, 2017 23:05:48 GMT 1, sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย
Are you kidding me, day in day out this place operates on nothing more than hot air.
Saying a Pejac original is 50k now, is just pulling a figure out of thin air it's meaningless. What we do know is originals at the last show ranged from 5 - 20k gbp, now argue amongst yourselves if they've increased since then.
sorry, that's not what you said, harvey... you stated, a buyer would make a significant loss in 20 years time if he had bought a huge rare canvas for 50k today ("get back a fraction"). good luck in finding a dumbhead to sell you his canvas for the price of 3-5 Meadow or Sepukku prints these days... 's post was a very sensible critique. ย I'm kind of shocked to see anyone arguing against it -- Do you have a vested interest in Pejac?ย What you have suggested here is also not what was said, which is that "There is a significant chance at that sort of money that in twenty years time you would get a fraction of that back", which I think is a fair assessment for an artist that hasn't really proven much of anything in a conventional sense to date. ย Are you kidding me, day in day out this place operates on nothing more than hot air. Saying a Pejac original is 50k now, is just pulling a figure out of thin air it's meaningless. What we do know is originals at the last show ranged from 5 - 20k gbp, now argue amongst yourselves if they've increased since then. |
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highflyer
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by highflyer on Apr 22, 2017 23:06:50 GMT 1,
Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see
Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see |
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ferg
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by ferg on Apr 23, 2017 8:11:21 GMT 1, Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see
Yes it's all about the art I see
Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see Yes it's all about the art I see |
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highflyer
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Pejac Print, Original, WANTED, by highflyer on Apr 23, 2017 9:49:48 GMT 1, Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see Yes it's all about the art I see
This one took a while to sell but it is just fooookin awesome. I guess as it was the priciest and one of the largest.
Anyone bag an Ahab? Would like to see it in situ happy to share.
Ooooh, you're just posting pictures from the show. I see Yes it's all about the art I see This one took a while to sell but it is just fooookin awesome. I guess as it was the priciest and one of the largest. Anyone bag an Ahab? Would like to see it in situ happy to share. |
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