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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by ed35pl on Mar 1, 2014 17:43:56 GMT 1, Hi I'm looking for a Banksy Wrong War poster, if anyone has one that they'd let go
please PM me
best Ed.
Hi I'm looking for a Banksy Wrong War poster, if anyone has one that they'd let go
please PM me
best Ed.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 16:45:21 GMT 1, If it was original then yeah great piece, but far too easy to fake for me, be interesting to see how it ends.
Quite a few of these stencil on cardboard pieces having been appearing over the last few weeks
If it was original then yeah great piece, but far too easy to fake for me, be interesting to see how it ends.
Quite a few of these stencil on cardboard pieces having been appearing over the last few weeks
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Morfx on Mar 14, 2014 17:01:25 GMT 1, Oh, see the thought never even crossed my mind... i like to believe.. will be my downfall..
Home in 2 weeks...Yippie!!!!
Oh, see the thought never even crossed my mind... i like to believe.. will be my downfall..
Home in 2 weeks...Yippie!!!!
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by tartarus on Mar 14, 2014 17:07:58 GMT 1, Nice additional bit of info  Im as good as convinced!
"I am a well known Artwork collector and dabble in street art journalism, with a large collection spread out between my studio, home, and some pieces on loan."
Are you Elevated Shaun?
Nice additional bit of info Im as good as convinced! "I am a well known Artwork collector and dabble in street art journalism, with a large collection spread out between my studio, home, and some pieces on loan." Are you Elevated Shaun? |
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 17:10:51 GMT 1, The £9000 valuation is ridiculous, nobody would ever know if one of these were legit, you have zero chance of any authentication.... That seems made up to me and then that leads me to think the whole thing is made up
The £9000 valuation is ridiculous, nobody would ever know if one of these were legit, you have zero chance of any authentication.... That seems made up to me and then that leads me to think the whole thing is made up
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by hnkpnk on Mar 14, 2014 17:46:49 GMT 1, There are several details that don't match. And there's been tens of these fakes on Ebay.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Damien on Mar 14, 2014 17:53:16 GMT 1, looks very narrow for a placard
looks very narrow for a placard
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 17:56:28 GMT 1, Yeah I'm calling fake on this one, nothing like those ones shown there in that pic. This stencil uses happy choppers print layout
Yeah I'm calling fake on this one, nothing like those ones shown there in that pic. This stencil uses happy choppers print layout
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Morfx on Mar 14, 2014 18:36:49 GMT 1, Think il be keeping away from these then... cheers folks...
Think il be keeping away from these then... cheers folks...
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 19:07:34 GMT 1, 4 of those have sold recently on eBay 
Search sold items for Banksy placard
4 of those have sold recently on eBay Search sold items for Banksy placard |
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by petro on Mar 14, 2014 19:20:48 GMT 1, I guess I'll go against the grain and say I think it's real. There are other examples on the web of this particular stencil design from the demonstration. And I don't see why someone would go through the effort to create a forgery, as they sell for relatively cheap since PC won't authenticate them.
I guess I'll go against the grain and say I think it's real. There are other examples on the web of this particular stencil design from the demonstration. And I don't see why someone would go through the effort to create a forgery, as they sell for relatively cheap since PC won't authenticate them.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Coach on Mar 14, 2014 20:08:28 GMT 1, Should these have holes where they were attached to the handle?
Should these have holes where they were attached to the handle?
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 20:27:06 GMT 1, Yeah all the ones I've seen in the pics are attached by two nails through the middle
Yeah all the ones I've seen in the pics are attached by two nails through the middle
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by petro on Mar 14, 2014 20:36:20 GMT 1, If you google pics from the demonstration, some do, some don't.
If you google pics from the demonstration, some do, some don't.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 20:47:14 GMT 1, £1020....
Crazy
£1020....
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Unica on Mar 14, 2014 20:48:35 GMT 1, I think it was real, I looked at the one on artvalue and it looked spot on. Sold for £1020.00
I think it was real, I looked at the one on artvalue and it looked spot on. Sold for £1020.00
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 20:51:35 GMT 1, It may well have been real but it takes balls to spend a grand on one of those with no provenance and no way to authenticate
Far too easy to make a stencil and cut out a piece of cardboard
It may well have been real but it takes balls to spend a grand on one of those with no provenance and no way to authenticate
Far too easy to make a stencil and cut out a piece of cardboard
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Unica on Mar 14, 2014 21:05:46 GMT 1, Its never going to be authenticated, therefore the ceiling is going to be rather low on these.
Its never going to be authenticated, therefore the ceiling is going to be rather low on these.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mmmike on Mar 14, 2014 21:54:40 GMT 1, The one in the other auction looks a lot more detailed. This one is either fake or a lower quality original with a lot of over spray. If I were to make fakes this is exactly the type of thing I would fake. It is supposed to be an original and you can't prove it is fake since POW won't authenticate them. Same logic that got the Otis crap to sell. Even 99% fake gets people thinking. The other upside to faking these is you can make a lot of them since they are not a one of a kind, yet there is variation which makes it really hard to tell real from fake. So I'd say there is a high probability there are fakes and since it is likely very hard to tell them apart from real, there is a high probability that this one is fake.
I do like the image and even if it is fake, if it were cheap enough I would buy one.
The one in the other auction looks a lot more detailed. This one is either fake or a lower quality original with a lot of over spray. If I were to make fakes this is exactly the type of thing I would fake. It is supposed to be an original and you can't prove it is fake since POW won't authenticate them. Same logic that got the Otis crap to sell. Even 99% fake gets people thinking. The other upside to faking these is you can make a lot of them since they are not a one of a kind, yet there is variation which makes it really hard to tell real from fake. So I'd say there is a high probability there are fakes and since it is likely very hard to tell them apart from real, there is a high probability that this one is fake.
I do like the image and even if it is fake, if it were cheap enough I would buy one.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by hnkpnk on Mar 14, 2014 22:59:00 GMT 1, The chopper stencil used on the fakes are taken from the screen print. And it's not the same stencil as the real placards, so it's easy to tell if you know what to look for.
No I won't tell the difference.
There has been a lot of these fakes on Ebay since ca 2006 and even Vermin had a fake they gave a COA they had to revoke after a discussion here. I haven't seen one real on Ebay ever. I don't know about the Artnet one, so please post a link.
The chopper stencil used on the fakes are taken from the screen print. And it's not the same stencil as the real placards, so it's easy to tell if you know what to look for.
No I won't tell the difference.
There has been a lot of these fakes on Ebay since ca 2006 and even Vermin had a fake they gave a COA they had to revoke after a discussion here. I haven't seen one real on Ebay ever. I don't know about the Artnet one, so please post a link.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 23:02:32 GMT 1, The artnet one is the same as the one that just sold on eBay with the happy choppers layout rather than the correct placard layout
The artnet one is the same as the one that just sold on eBay with the happy choppers layout rather than the correct placard layout
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by hnkpnk on Mar 14, 2014 23:10:01 GMT 1, The artnet one is the same as the one that just sold on eBay with the happy choppers layout rather than the correct placard layout
I'm not sure there was a "correct placard layout". I believe it was three different stencils for the different sized choppers and they were moved around between the placards.
Edit: Don't quote me on this.
Edit2: I take that back. I'm not at all sure.
The artnet one is the same as the one that just sold on eBay with the happy choppers layout rather than the correct placard layout I'm not sure there was a "correct placard layout". I believe it was three different stencils for the different sized choppers and they were moved around between the placards.Edit: Don't quote me on this.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by hnkpnk on Mar 14, 2014 23:21:50 GMT 1, Btw: there were even faked pics from the/a march, where the Ebay seller had photoshopped other placards to show the Happy Chopper ones.
Btw: there were even faked pics from the/a march, where the Ebay seller had photoshopped other placards to show the Happy Chopper ones.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 14, 2014 23:27:45 GMT 1, Do you have / have you seen pictures at the demonstration showing the three layouts? I've only ever seen the one type on the pictures
Do you have / have you seen pictures at the demonstration showing the three layouts? I've only ever seen the one type on the pictures
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by hnkpnk on Mar 15, 2014 11:59:26 GMT 1, What I mean is that there were separate stencils for each chopper (large, medium, small) and therefore the layout differed between all placards. But this is from memory and second hand info only, so I'm not sure.
Edit: I take that back. I'm not at all sure.
What I mean is that there were separate stencils for each chopper (large, medium, small) and therefore the layout differed between all placards. But this is from memory and second hand info only, so I'm not sure.
Edit: I take that back. I'm not at all sure.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 15, 2014 12:17:00 GMT 1, I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures.
That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb.
I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures.
That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb.
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 12:22:48 GMT 1, I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures. That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb.
I have a picture of a petrol head placard at the demonstration too.
I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures. That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb. I have a picture of a petrol head placard at the demonstration too. |
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Banksy • Wrong War • Pax Britannica , by mikehaspey on Mar 15, 2014 12:55:50 GMT 1, I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures. That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb. I have a picture of a petrol head placard at the demonstration too.
Not seen that one, any chance of a pic please?
I've got one myself I bought probably 2 years ago, will never know if it's legit or not but it is the same layout as the ones in the pictures. That's why I spent time going through the pics I could find to check it out - I only ever saw the one type of choppers, plus the grin reaper and girl with bomb. I have a picture of a petrol head placard at the demonstration too. Not seen that one, any chance of a pic please? |
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