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Art Wanted, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 12, 2017 14:42:28 GMT 1, I would like an answer on the numbered vs non numbered. Curious why there is a numbered version at all? i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine...
I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones?
I would like an answer on the numbered vs non numbered. Curious why there is a numbered version at all? i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine... I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones?
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mla
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Art Wanted, by mla on Jul 12, 2017 14:42:42 GMT 1, Counterfeit art is lame as hell. I'd be embarrassed to hang one of these prints.
Counterfeit art is lame as hell. I'd be embarrassed to hang one of these prints.
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mla
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Art Wanted, by mla on Jul 12, 2017 14:43:31 GMT 1, i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine... I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? They're counterfeits, FFS.
i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine... I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? They're counterfeits, FFS.
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telecine
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Art Wanted, by telecine on Jul 12, 2017 15:03:01 GMT 1, i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine... I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones?
He /she started with numbered runs , but it appears greed got in the way of a good idea.
i guess they can track who the sold it to - in case someone was trying to pass it off as genuine... I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? He /she started with numbered runs , but it appears greed got in the way of a good idea.
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wisky
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Art Wanted, by wisky on Jul 12, 2017 15:05:44 GMT 1, Hey @roboj.... I have a framed WCP Blue rain Nola for sale!
Collection only - as framed - in Sevenoaks, Kent or S E London....
Make me a sensible offer and it's yours!
Michael.
Hey @roboj.... I have a framed WCP Blue rain Nola for sale!
Collection only - as framed - in Sevenoaks, Kent or S E London....
Make me a sensible offer and it's yours!
Michael.
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klyde
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Art Wanted, by klyde on Jul 12, 2017 15:32:34 GMT 1, compared to the original prints, the quality of wcp's reproductions are appalling.
His oldest? No way.
Reckon my Turf War is bang on. Its also numbered by the way.
Some of Banksys more recent prints, safe to say they wont be as near.
But framed and hanging like they should be, doubt anyone will notice.
compared to the original prints, the quality of wcp's reproductions are appalling.
His oldest? No way.
Reckon my Turf War is bang on. Its also numbered by the way.
Some of Banksys more recent prints, safe to say they wont be as near.
But framed and hanging like they should be, doubt anyone will notice.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 15:33:52 GMT 1, compared to the original prints, the quality of wcp's reproductions are appalling.
His oldest? No way.
Reckon my Turf War is bang on. Its also numbered by the way.
Some of Banksys more recent prints, safe to say they wont beย as near.
But framed and hanging like they should be, doubt anyone will notice.
Except the owner.....
compared to the original prints, the quality of wcp's reproductions are appalling.
His oldest? No way.
Reckon my Turf War is bang on. Its also numbered by the way.
Some of Banksys more recent prints, safe to say they wont beย as near.
But framed and hanging like they should be, doubt anyone will notice.
Except the owner.....
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klyde
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Art Wanted, by klyde on Jul 12, 2017 15:36:05 GMT 1, I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? They're counterfeits, FFS.
Lifes too short to worry too much about that frankly.
Decorate your house with art you like.
I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? They're counterfeits, FFS.
Lifes too short to worry too much about that frankly.
Decorate your house with art you like.
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Opie
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Art Wanted, by Opie on Jul 12, 2017 15:49:31 GMT 1, I really like the Grin Reaper Print but could never afford the real thing. Purchased one of the WCP versions and am very happy with it. Quality is very good and (to me) looks great framed.
I really like the Grin Reaper Print but could never afford the real thing. Purchased one of the WCP versions and am very happy with it. Quality is very good and (to me) looks great framed.
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klyde
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Art Wanted, by klyde on Jul 12, 2017 15:53:32 GMT 1, That looks cracking!
That looks cracking!
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 12, 2017 16:08:31 GMT 1,
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 12, 2017 16:09:09 GMT 1,
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Fake
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Art Wanted, by Fake on Jul 12, 2017 16:25:58 GMT 1, Some of his prints have a huge mistake in them... i am not telling what print or where. Dont want to make him the wiser ;-)
Some of his prints have a huge mistake in them... i am not telling what print or where. Dont want to make him the wiser ;-)
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silvermyn
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Art Wanted, by silvermyn on Jul 12, 2017 16:44:51 GMT 1, Some of his prints have a huge mistake in them... i am not telling what print or where. Dont want to make him the wiser ;-) Ooh, ohh, I know!
Have they got the hands right on GWB or Nola...?
Some of his prints have a huge mistake in them... i am not telling what print or where. Dont want to make him the wiser ;-) Ooh, ohh, I know!
Have they got the hands right on GWB or Nola...?
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randomname
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Jul 12, 2017 16:47:40 GMT 1, Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong.
Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong.
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klyde
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Art Wanted, by klyde on Jul 12, 2017 16:57:36 GMT 1, Lunatic
Lunatic
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WOOF
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Art Wanted, by WOOF on Jul 12, 2017 16:57:47 GMT 1, Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong. With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge...
Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong. With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge...
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Art Wanted, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 12, 2017 16:57:48 GMT 1, I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? ย They're counterfeits, FFS.ย
Lol. They aren't counterfeit.
But I get your point of trying to over blow it!
I mean there appears to be a WCP version /200 but then also a WCP version not numbered. Were the numbered ones released first and then they decided to just start making non numbered ones? Does it really matter? ย They're counterfeits, FFS.ย Lol. They aren't counterfeit. But I get your point of trying to over blow it!
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jluhiex
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Art Wanted, by jluhiex on Jul 12, 2017 16:59:44 GMT 1, Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong.
LOL your comparing unauthorized reproductions to child pornography which carries a 20 year sentence, emotionally ravages families and is beyond reprehensible. I guess we're lumping child pornographers with something as petty as copyright infringement.
Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong. LOL your comparing unauthorized reproductions to child pornography which carries a 20 year sentence, emotionally ravages families and is beyond reprehensible. I guess we're lumping child pornographers with something as petty as copyright infringement.
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randomname
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Jul 12, 2017 17:20:52 GMT 1, Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong. With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge... Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time.
I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd.
Letting the West Country Prince advertise here is a bit like letting someone advertise kiddie porn for sale. Sure, it's illegal and unethical. But we all make our own choices. This site is just for sharing information. Not to judge what's right or wrong. With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge... Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd.
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Art Wanted, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 12, 2017 17:32:10 GMT 1, Is it copyright infringement if the original owner doesn't care...
Is it copyright infringement if the original owner doesn't care...
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iamzero
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Art Wanted, by iamzero on Jul 12, 2017 17:32:21 GMT 1, Here we go round the mulberry bush...
Here we go round the mulberry bush...
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 12, 2017 17:42:12 GMT 1, With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge... Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd. Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal?
With respect, those two things are universes apart. What he's doing also isn't illegal. Unethical, maybe? But who am I to judge... Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd. Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal?
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randomname
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Jul 12, 2017 17:48:09 GMT 1, Is it copyright infringement if the original owner doesn't care... In the past, Banksy posted hi-res files for people to print for their own personal use. He stated that you could not use the files for profit.
When contacted through Pest Control, he has always maintained that his work is protected by copyright and that no one has permission to reproduce his work.
So I don't think it's a case that he doesn't care. It's more likely that he would have to reveal his identity to defend his copyrights in court.
Is it copyright infringement if the original owner doesn't care... In the past, Banksy posted hi-res files for people to print for their own personal use. He stated that you could not use the files for profit. When contacted through Pest Control, he has always maintained that his work is protected by copyright and that no one has permission to reproduce his work. So I don't think it's a case that he doesn't care. It's more likely that he would have to reveal his identity to defend his copyrights in court.
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Art Wanted, by Happy Shopper on Jul 12, 2017 17:49:15 GMT 1, Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd.ย Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? Lots of things are illegal, but that's not the same as profiting off someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights?
Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd.ย Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? Lots of things are illegal, but that's not the same as profiting off someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights?
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randomname
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Jul 12, 2017 17:54:03 GMT 1, Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd. Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft?
Copyright infringement is illegal โ both as a civil and criminal offense with possible jail time. I'm not saying copyright infringement is nearly as bad as kiddie porn. I'm saying it's unethical and illegal. To argue that this site isn't here to judge right and wrong while profiting from it is absurd. Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft?
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 12, 2017 17:57:37 GMT 1, Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? Lots of things are illegal, but that's the same of profiting of someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights? Many artists including Banksy have copied images from other more famous artists work, so isn't that also "profiting of someone else's artwork without permission"
Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? Lots of things are illegal, but that's the same of profiting of someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights? Many artists including Banksy have copied images from other more famous artists work, so isn't that also "profiting of someone else's artwork without permission"
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randomname
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Art Wanted, by randomname on Jul 12, 2017 17:59:12 GMT 1, Lots of things are illegal, but that's the same of profiting of someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights? Many artists including Banksy have copied images from other more famous artists work, so isn't that also "profiting of someone else's artwork without permission" How do you own an art forum and not know the difference between copyright infringement and fair use? Honest question.
Lots of things are illegal, but that's the same of profiting of someone else's artwork without permission... This is an art forum isn't it? Are we not supposed to care about the artists' rights? Many artists including Banksy have copied images from other more famous artists work, so isn't that also "profiting of someone else's artwork without permission" How do you own an art forum and not know the difference between copyright infringement and fair use? Honest question.
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Art Wanted, by Deleted on Jul 12, 2017 18:04:09 GMT 1, Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft?ย Not defending WCP here or giving an opinion one way or the other but are Banksy images actually copyrighted??? If so to who? If to Banksy he would have to physically show up in court to defend it, which seems unlikely, right? I'm not sure any of the images actually are.
Is painting on other people's buildings without permission illegal? It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft?ย Not defending WCP here or giving an opinion one way or the other but are Banksy images actually copyrighted??? If so to who? If to Banksy he would have to physically show up in court to defend it, which seems unlikely, right? I'm not sure any of the images actually are.
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Art Wanted, by Daniel Silk on Jul 12, 2017 18:12:18 GMT 1, It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft? Not defending WCP here or giving an opinion one way or the other but are Banksy images actually copyrighted??? If so to who? If to Banksy he would have to physically show up in court to defend it, which seems unlikely, right? I'm not sure any of the images actually are. I was told by Banksy's people many many years ago that he didn't care about copyright. And I'm sure if Banksy did care about what WCP are doing it would be pretty easy for him to get them removed from eBay, and that doesn't seem to have happened for however many years they have been selling them.
It is. Does that justify you profiting from intellectual property theft? Not defending WCP here or giving an opinion one way or the other but are Banksy images actually copyrighted??? If so to who? If to Banksy he would have to physically show up in court to defend it, which seems unlikely, right? I'm not sure any of the images actually are. I was told by Banksy's people many many years ago that he didn't care about copyright. And I'm sure if Banksy did care about what WCP are doing it would be pretty easy for him to get them removed from eBay, and that doesn't seem to have happened for however many years they have been selling them.
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