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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 21:00:39 GMT 1, I like Theresa May out of the nominees.
I like Theresa May out of the nominees.
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ferg
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Conservative Party, by ferg on Jun 30, 2016 21:18:20 GMT 1, I like Theresa May out of the nominees.
didn't she vote to remain in somewhat hypocritical personally I think she will be another Corbyn/Kinnock unelectable disaster
I like Theresa May out of the nominees. didn't she vote to remain in somewhat hypocritical personally I think she will be another Corbyn/Kinnock unelectable disaster |
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Viking Surfer
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Conservative Party, by Viking Surfer on Jun 30, 2016 21:29:59 GMT 1, There's a great post that sums up why Boris is not running for Tory party leadership as if you were explaining it to a 5yr old:
"Your friend is class president, but you (Boris) want to be president, there a is a class vote of whether the class should leave the school or not. The current president, your friend, wants the class to stay in school, you want the class to leave the school. You and your friend campaign against each other. You don't really want the class to vote to leave the school, you like the school, but you want the vote to be 50/50 so you can use the result as leverage against the current class president, in the hope of removing him from power and claiming yourself as the new and better president.
But things didn't quite go to plan. The class has voted with you, to leave the school. Now the class is leaving the school, soon to be educated by absolutely no one, the class needs a president to lead them through these tough times. It is assumed, that you, as the leader of the leave campaign will take the role of president and lead the class through tough times.
However, you are running away and hiding in the jungle gym."
There's a great post that sums up why Boris is not running for Tory party leadership as if you were explaining it to a 5yr old:
"Your friend is class president, but you (Boris) want to be president, there a is a class vote of whether the class should leave the school or not. The current president, your friend, wants the class to stay in school, you want the class to leave the school. You and your friend campaign against each other. You don't really want the class to vote to leave the school, you like the school, but you want the vote to be 50/50 so you can use the result as leverage against the current class president, in the hope of removing him from power and claiming yourself as the new and better president.
But things didn't quite go to plan. The class has voted with you, to leave the school. Now the class is leaving the school, soon to be educated by absolutely no one, the class needs a president to lead them through these tough times. It is assumed, that you, as the leader of the leave campaign will take the role of president and lead the class through tough times.
However, you are running away and hiding in the jungle gym."
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Viking Surfer
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Conservative Party, by Viking Surfer on Jun 30, 2016 21:33:59 GMT 1, Read the above post and then literally lol at old school rivalry.
Read the above post and then literally lol at old school rivalry. |
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chads007
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Conservative Party, by chads007 on Jun 30, 2016 21:57:42 GMT 1, 
George Osborne on the left of this one
George Osborne on the left of this one |
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 10:27:09 GMT 1, A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK.
A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK.
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Conservative Party, by tuftynuts on Jul 1, 2016 10:50:17 GMT 1, A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK.
I'm waiting for the spate of posh-ist attacks on ex public schoolboys who run the country, then do a runner when they make a bit of a hash of it.
A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK. I'm waiting for the spate of posh-ist attacks on ex public schoolboys who run the country, then do a runner when they make a bit of a hash of it. |
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Conservative Party, by Daniel Silk on Jul 1, 2016 10:58:09 GMT 1, Can I ask that some of you tone down the language a bit please, some of the posts this past few days have turned pretty nasty and it doesn't encourage a good balanced discussion. Of course we want people to post their opinions, but they need to do it in a way that also respects the views and feeling of others.
Thank you.
Can I ask that some of you tone down the language a bit please, some of the posts this past few days have turned pretty nasty and it doesn't encourage a good balanced discussion. Of course we want people to post their opinions, but they need to do it in a way that also respects the views and feeling of others.
Thank you.
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 11:04:55 GMT 1, Boris stood down cos he knew he would not get enough votes. Plus his Brexit campaign was mainly disinformation and if elected leader and having to negotiate with the EU he would probably announce that he got a great deal for the UK when in reality he got a great deal for himself.
Public schools do create todays Tories and civil servants and bankers but looking at all the Labour MP's that have been prosecuted for expenses frauds and other things. It's about the person and their integrity not their back ground.
Boris stood down cos he knew he would not get enough votes. Plus his Brexit campaign was mainly disinformation and if elected leader and having to negotiate with the EU he would probably announce that he got a great deal for the UK when in reality he got a great deal for himself.
Public schools do create todays Tories and civil servants and bankers but looking at all the Labour MP's that have been prosecuted for expenses frauds and other things. It's about the person and their integrity not their back ground.
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Conservative Party, by Daniel Silk on Jul 1, 2016 11:11:44 GMT 1, I think with so many people saying Boris was using the EU vote as a way to push himself to become the next PM, he could see it was a good idea to not stand now. Also it's better to have somebody like May or Gove to do the dirty work now and take all the shit from the media, and allow him the opportunity to step in as PM in the future when it's calmed down.
I think with so many people saying Boris was using the EU vote as a way to push himself to become the next PM, he could see it was a good idea to not stand now. Also it's better to have somebody like May or Gove to do the dirty work now and take all the shit from the media, and allow him the opportunity to step in as PM in the future when it's calmed down.
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 11:15:18 GMT 1, Tories might lose a few donors too if they do Brexit initiate article 50.
news.sky.com/story/1720169/easyjet-opens-talks-over-post-brexit-hq-move
EasyJet has opened talks with EU member states' aviation regulators about relocating its headquarters from the UK, underlining how the decision to leave the European Union is impacting corporate Britain.
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chads007
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Conservative Party, by chads007 on Jul 1, 2016 11:23:51 GMT 1, I think with so many people saying Boris was using the EU vote as a way to push himself to become the next PM, he could see it was a good idea to not stand now. Also it's better to have somebody like May or Gove to do the dirty work now and take all thes**t from the media, and allow him the opportunity to step in as PM in the future when it's calmed down.
Boris screwed over the electorate and Cameron and the rest, and then got satisfyingly stabbed in the back by gove (who would not be in a position to contest the leadership if it wasn't for Boris winning the out vote himself), and now the rest of the party will ensure May gets the job. And Boris will NEVER become pm after what happened in the referendum and realistically was never in the running.
I think with so many people saying Boris was using the EU vote as a way to push himself to become the next PM, he could see it was a good idea to not stand now. Also it's better to have somebody like May or Gove to do the dirty work now and take all thes**t from the media, and allow him the opportunity to step in as PM in the future when it's calmed down. Boris screwed over the electorate and Cameron and the rest, and then got satisfyingly stabbed in the back by gove (who would not be in a position to contest the leadership if it wasn't for Boris winning the out vote himself), and now the rest of the party will ensure May gets the job. And Boris will NEVER become pm after what happened in the referendum and realistically was never in the running. |
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 11:48:36 GMT 1, Gove making his speech on Sky News has not said one thing about any Brexit policies. regarding immigration, jobs, law and order etc etc.
Nothing about removing illegal immigrants which all parties avoid too.
The way I see Britain now, it's isolated in Europe whils't promoting trade and holidays with African and Argentina etc.
UK manufacturing is only working when it comes to expensive goods and cars etc.
The UK will fast become a
Gove making his speech on Sky News has not said one thing about any Brexit policies. regarding immigration, jobs, law and order etc etc.
Nothing about removing illegal immigrants which all parties avoid too.
The way I see Britain now, it's isolated in Europe whils't promoting trade and holidays with African and Argentina etc.
UK manufacturing is only working when it comes to expensive goods and cars etc.
The UK will fast become a
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 11:53:16 GMT 1, A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK.
A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK. Where and by who or whom or what? |
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Conservative Party, by Daniel Silk on Jul 1, 2016 12:02:03 GMT 1,
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 1, 2016 13:30:02 GMT 1, A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK. Where and by who or whom or what?
A five-fold increase, was the figure given on either last nights Question Time or News Night, that came afterwards.
A five-fold increase in racist attacks on streets of UK. Where and by who or whom or what? A five-fold increase, was the figure given on either last nights Question Time or News Night, that came afterwards. |
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iamzero
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Conservative Party, by iamzero on Jul 1, 2016 13:56:48 GMT 1, It was on the radio yesterday about the rise. The figure was an increase in reported attacks and so calls into question whether it's an actual increase or the fact that these happen and go unreported usually. Either way attacks are unacceptable.
It was on the radio yesterday about the rise. The figure was an increase in reported attacks and so calls into question whether it's an actual increase or the fact that these happen and go unreported usually. Either way attacks are unacceptable.
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 2, 2016 20:43:30 GMT 1, There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader.
There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader.
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Conservative Party, by Daniel Silk on Jul 2, 2016 20:54:19 GMT 1, There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader.
There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader. Here's one - |
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chads007
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Conservative Party, by chads007 on Jul 2, 2016 22:23:55 GMT 1, There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader. Here's one -
Was the character based on Gove?
There are some weird people in the Tory party putting themselves forward to be the leader. Here's one - Was the character based on Gove? |
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 3, 2016 1:04:56 GMT 1,
Spot the Gover
Spot the Gover
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Conservative Party, by Coach on Jul 5, 2016 19:42:33 GMT 1,
Vid doesn't seem to play from that link.
Open up bbc news and go to the story from there.
The video is pure gold!
Vid doesn't seem to play from that link. Open up bbc news and go to the story from there. The video is pure gold! |
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chads007
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Geezer Mate
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Conservative Party, by Geezer Mate on Jul 5, 2016 20:01:36 GMT 1, Fuck me we would do a better job
Fuck me we would do a better job
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Conservative Party, by Harveyn on Jul 5, 2016 20:33:35 GMT 1, So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this.
So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us.
Its a farce!!!
Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing?
So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this.
So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us.
Its a farce!!!
Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing?
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 21:17:04 GMT 1, So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this. So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us. Its a farce!!! Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing?
Labour did the same when they gave us the great Gordon Brown, it's how politics work or don't work!
So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this. So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us. Its a farce!!! Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing? Labour did the same when they gave us the great Gordon Brown, it's how politics work or don't work! |
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Conservative Party, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 21:34:09 GMT 1, Ken Clarke is pro EU bilderberger, so no surprise from him. It could be that BO JO had second thoughts about Brexit and hence ruled himself out, and by supporting tax avoiding Leadson, knows she won't be leader. Meaning he can go and play cricket for a couple of years.
Labour should be shouting from the rafters in the commons demanding a parliamentary vote on Brexit instead of Corbyn running away from criticism which is one big distraction anyway.
Still it hasn't got as sinister as this though.
"Tony Blair predicted John Smith's early death
Tony Blair predicted to his wife that John Smith would die prematurely and he would win the race to become the next Labour leader, not Gordon Brown. "
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/7976017/Tony-Blair-predicted-John-Smiths-early-death.html
Ken Clarke is pro EU bilderberger, so no surprise from him. It could be that BO JO had second thoughts about Brexit and hence ruled himself out, and by supporting tax avoiding Leadson, knows she won't be leader. Meaning he can go and play cricket for a couple of years. Labour should be shouting from the rafters in the commons demanding a parliamentary vote on Brexit instead of Corbyn running away from criticism which is one big distraction anyway. Still it hasn't got as sinister as this though. "Tony Blair predicted John Smith's early death
Tony Blair predicted to his wife that John Smith would die prematurely and he would win the race to become the next Labour leader, not Gordon Brown. "www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/7976017/Tony-Blair-predicted-John-Smiths-early-death.html |
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Conservative Party, by mutatis on Jul 5, 2016 22:28:41 GMT 1, So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this. So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us. Its a farce!!!
Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing?
Whilst May's experience suggests that she would provide the steadier hand on the tiller generally, will her parliamentary party members let her do her job? May is possibly a softcore Eurosceptic who had to side with "remain" and Leadsom with her background in the City was "remain" before political opportunism got in the way. May has a reputation for not suffering fools gladly and in a party full of them, this could become an issue.
One can rest assured that the Brexit camp will do everything to get Leadsom into No 10. If May gets in the fighting will just erupt into full-scale warfare.
So we are not going to have a general election because firstly it would create further market instability and secondly there really is no creditable opposition due to the Labour party self destruction. I just about agree with this. So to lead the UK through one of its most critical periods we are not going to have a PM elected by Conservative MPs whom at least were elected to make critical decisions on our behalf we are going to let the Conservative Party membership (a very small % of the UK electorate) make the decision for us. Its a farce!!!
Under what circumstances can the candidate placed 1st place by the Conservative MPS be elected as PM without going to the what is effectively a small proportion of the UK electorate? Is it a documented percentage or is it down to the 2nd placed nominee withdrawing? If the 2nd placed nominee withdraws then there will be no need to go to party members. This won't happen in this instance. It should be a straight shootout between May v Leadsom. When party members vote strange things can happen. In 1990 Major (then a political nobody) defeated Heseltine, in 2001 (?) IDS (an unknown quantity) beat Ken Clarke. Also getting down to the last two in 2001, was famously denied to the "heir apparent" Portillo. Whilst May's experience suggests that she would provide the steadier hand on the tiller generally, will her parliamentary party members let her do her job? May is possibly a softcore Eurosceptic who had to side with "remain" and Leadsom with her background in the City was "remain" before political opportunism got in the way. May has a reputation for not suffering fools gladly and in a party full of them, this could become an issue. One can rest assured that the Brexit camp will do everything to get Leadsom into No 10. If May gets in the fighting will just erupt into full-scale warfare. |
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