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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by insite on Feb 25, 2008 14:59:58 GMT 1, 75 more for sale this week, have you gone off queuing ? ;D Never tried queing for a print. Impossible for me to get to opening night to pick one up and i prefer the red to the pink.
Sorry must be confusing you with someone else, thought you were about ten behind me at the BRP show.
75 more for sale this week, have you gone off queuing ? ;D Never tried queing for a print. Impossible for me to get to opening night to pick one up and i prefer the red to the pink. Sorry must be confusing you with someone else, thought you were about ten behind me at the BRP show.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by chrisps303 on Feb 25, 2008 15:03:46 GMT 1, Never tried queing for a print. Impossible for me to get to opening night to pick one up and i prefer the red to the pink. Sorry must be confusing you with someone else, thought you were about ten behind me at the BRP show.
No wasnt me.
So if anybody has a red lies they want to sell please pm me.
Never tried queing for a print. Impossible for me to get to opening night to pick one up and i prefer the red to the pink. Sorry must be confusing you with someone else, thought you were about ten behind me at the BRP show. No wasnt me. So if anybody has a red lies they want to sell please pm me.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by dogant on Feb 25, 2008 15:18:54 GMT 1,
Thx for the post..looking forward to picking one up on Thursday!!
How early do you think I need to be?
Thx for the post..looking forward to picking one up on Thursday!! How early do you think I need to be?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jerometurner on Feb 25, 2008 16:41:32 GMT 1, Thx for the post..looking forward to picking one up on Thursday!! How early do you think I need to be?
no idea, 'cos like chrisps303 haven't tried queueing up for a print.
Thx for the post..looking forward to picking one up on Thursday!! How early do you think I need to be? no idea, 'cos like chrisps303 haven't tried queueing up for a print.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by dogant on Mar 9, 2008 1:14:22 GMT 1, Just looked on the bay and 7 pinks have already sold โ with 4 still to sell!
So, thatโs 11 out of the 75 people (15%) who Qโd (Ok โ they only gave out about 50 to the Q) are flippers.
Is this now life?
Oh, does anybody want to buy mine? ;D
Just looked on the bay and 7 pinks have already sold โ with 4 still to sell! So, thatโs 11 out of the 75 people (15%) who Qโd (Ok โ they only gave out about 50 to the Q) are flippers. Is this now life? Oh, does anybody want to buy mine? ;D
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by James Smith 77 on Mar 9, 2008 1:15:34 GMT 1,
Hahaha
Hahaha
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jB on Mar 9, 2008 2:18:43 GMT 1, s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail
s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by RBK on Mar 9, 2008 2:31:59 GMT 1, I've tracked a lot of the Banksy LA print releases - and 10-15% of those get flipped also.
I've tracked a lot of the Banksy LA print releases - and 10-15% of those get flipped also.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by dogant on Mar 9, 2008 10:45:47 GMT 1, For me, the crazy thing is the Red went mad - 400 odd sold in the first few seconds (ok - a lot of refunds!)
Prices bumped up to close to ยฃ300 - so every man and his dog then joined to Q/etc - as they felt it was an easy banker.
For me - I think the pink is a stronger print as I felt the 'red' red was not a great shade too use. Also, the pink is less common - due to no paste ups etc.
Still funny how it works!
Although, not happy about everything - the prints to big and will not fit in my A1 folder (before you say, its on the list for the framers!)
For me, the crazy thing is the Red went mad - 400 odd sold in the first few seconds (ok - a lot of refunds!)
Prices bumped up to close to ยฃ300 - so every man and his dog then joined to Q/etc - as they felt it was an easy banker.
For me - I think the pink is a stronger print as I felt the 'red' red was not a great shade too use. Also, the pink is less common - due to no paste ups etc.
Still funny how it works!
Although, not happy about everything - the prints to big and will not fit in my A1 folder (before you say, its on the list for the framers!)
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by banksman on Mar 9, 2008 10:51:38 GMT 1, s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail ME TO!!!!!!!
s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail ME TO!!!!!!!
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by kingleopald on Mar 9, 2008 15:03:11 GMT 1, fuck me, and i thought they were all queueing up for the MFI sale down the road...
fuck me, and i thought they were all queueing up for the MFI sale down the road...
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jB on Mar 9, 2008 17:47:26 GMT 1, s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail ME TO!!!!!!!
staying hopful that it comes this week banksman
s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail ME TO!!!!!!! staying hopful that it comes this week banksman
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by andyctree on Mar 9, 2008 18:20:30 GMT 1, s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail
and me
s**tty! im still waiting on my red to come in the mail and me
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by dogant on Mar 11, 2008 12:28:58 GMT 1, Has anybody received their believing standard print for TLSG yet?
Has anybody received their believing standard print for TLSG yet?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by chablis on Mar 11, 2008 18:45:48 GMT 1, You probably won't see these until after the show finishes.
You probably won't see these until after the show finishes.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by gironawatch on Mar 12, 2008 8:21:44 GMT 1, I WAS IN THE BEJOIR SHOW A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I BOUGHT ONE OF HIS AMAZING PRINTS AND I WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVED AROUND THIS TIME. HOWEVER, LAST WEEK, A LADY CALLED ME FROM THE GALLERY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE CANNOT GIVE ME THE PRIINT I ALREADY PAID FOR AND HAVE THE RECEIPT FOR. I ASKED FOR THE REASON AND SHE EXPLAINED ME THAT THE PRINT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO SELL, EVEN THOUGH I WAS THE FRIST ONE TO BUY IT, SHE OFFERED ME A REFUND OF THE MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY CAN DO THIS AS I FELL THIS IS A BREECH OF MY CONSUMER RIGHTS AND AS I HAD PAID FOR THE ITEM AND ALSO HAD THE RECEIPT.
HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS?
THANK YOU
I WAS IN THE BEJOIR SHOW A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I BOUGHT ONE OF HIS AMAZING PRINTS AND I WAS SUPPOSED TO RECEIVED AROUND THIS TIME. HOWEVER, LAST WEEK, A LADY CALLED ME FROM THE GALLERY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE CANNOT GIVE ME THE PRIINT I ALREADY PAID FOR AND HAVE THE RECEIPT FOR. I ASKED FOR THE REASON AND SHE EXPLAINED ME THAT THE PRINT IS NOT AVAILABLE TO SELL, EVEN THOUGH I WAS THE FRIST ONE TO BUY IT, SHE OFFERED ME A REFUND OF THE MONEY AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY CAN DO THIS AS I FELL THIS IS A BREECH OF MY CONSUMER RIGHTS AND AS I HAD PAID FOR THE ITEM AND ALSO HAD THE RECEIPT.
HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO THIS?
THANK YOU
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 8:30:55 GMT 1, i heard that the leonard street gallery made a mistake with the blurry mary a/p's. they thought there were five of each, when in fact there was only one. was it this or the lies print?
i heard that the leonard street gallery made a mistake with the blurry mary a/p's. they thought there were five of each, when in fact there was only one. was it this or the lies print?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Studiocromie on Mar 12, 2008 8:32:38 GMT 1, i dont know if they can do it or not mate, the only way i could help is to tell you that this is really weird and i'm sorry for you. i would be pissed as well, even if im sure they have their reasons
i dont know if they can do it or not mate, the only way i could help is to tell you that this is really weird and i'm sorry for you. i would be pissed as well, even if im sure they have their reasons
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by baracass on Mar 12, 2008 8:48:45 GMT 1, I think that's going a bit far Francis. Their prints are reasonably priced. They don't all sell out in a second. They exhibit plenty of great artists and put on good shows. In short, good for the scene. Not sure where you're coming from with that comment.
I'm certainly not an expert in the field and not 100% but I thought that a transaction isn't complete until you have received the goods. Unfortunately mistakes happen.
I think that's going a bit far Francis. Their prints are reasonably priced. They don't all sell out in a second. They exhibit plenty of great artists and put on good shows. In short, good for the scene. Not sure where you're coming from with that comment.
I'm certainly not an expert in the field and not 100% but I thought that a transaction isn't complete until you have received the goods. Unfortunately mistakes happen.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by pezlow on Mar 12, 2008 9:01:28 GMT 1, I heard the leonard street accidentally oversold some of the beejoir stuff on the night. This doesn't give Francis carte blanche to start slagging them off, especially in ways which are so untrue.
No court could compel TLSG to sell you something they haven't got. The best that you could get would be a refund which they already offered you. I appreciate this is disappointing but as anonymous plum says mistakes happen.
I heard the leonard street accidentally oversold some of the beejoir stuff on the night. This doesn't give Francis carte blanche to start slagging them off, especially in ways which are so untrue.
No court could compel TLSG to sell you something they haven't got. The best that you could get would be a refund which they already offered you. I appreciate this is disappointing but as anonymous plum says mistakes happen.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Winter on Mar 12, 2008 9:03:59 GMT 1, I got a call from them saying the print I had bought had been sold to someone else and they would refund me. My friend also got the same call. Apparently 2 of their sales people were walking around selling the same work. Why are so many Preview nights so disorganised? Most of the time galleries are very quiet - as soon as a load of people walk in they crumble. As Roy Keane said "Fail to prepare, prepare to fail"
I got a call from them saying the print I had bought had been sold to someone else and they would refund me. My friend also got the same call. Apparently 2 of their sales people were walking around selling the same work. Why are so many Preview nights so disorganised? Most of the time galleries are very quiet - as soon as a load of people walk in they crumble. As Roy Keane said "Fail to prepare, prepare to fail"
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by wimpy on Mar 12, 2008 9:06:58 GMT 1, You are going about this all wrong, buddy.
If they won't give you what you paid for, then ask them what special item that they have or will have soon that they WILL give you.
The last thing you should do is go spouting off on a public forum in all caps.
You are going about this all wrong, buddy. If they won't give you what you paid for, then ask them what special item that they have or will have soon that they WILL give you. The last thing you should do is go spouting off on a public forum in all caps.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by guest2 on Mar 12, 2008 9:24:19 GMT 1, yes I heard they oversold so it's not that they are not allowing you this print it's more a case of - there just isn't any to sell you, no more anywhere in the world as it's a limited edition print.
Best thing to do is to call, keep calm, state your disapointment and see if there are any AP's
Or maybe they can make it up to you some other how. But agreed, over selling is not good. Best to keep at least 5% back to allow for mistakes.
Oh, I was nothing to do with this show for the record
yes I heard they oversold so it's not that they are not allowing you this print it's more a case of - there just isn't any to sell you, no more anywhere in the world as it's a limited edition print. Best thing to do is to call, keep calm, state your disapointment and see if there are any AP's Or maybe they can make it up to you some other how. But agreed, over selling is not good. Best to keep at least 5% back to allow for mistakes. Oh, I was nothing to do with this show for the record
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by daveanthony28 on Mar 12, 2008 9:31:14 GMT 1, Get the refund & although it's hard as said above ask if there is any way you can be kept on file as a priority for anything new as compensation maybe ?
Get the refund & although it's hard as said above ask if there is any way you can be kept on file as a priority for anything new as compensation maybe ?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Coach on Mar 12, 2008 9:48:21 GMT 1, really sorry for your dissapointment. i too would be gutted. best idea so far seems to be Frankie's, imo. as for the criticisms of tlsg, i must say that all dealings i have had with them have been first rate. the staff have been great to deal with. they put on some amazing shows, and this scene would be much poorer without them. btw, i said i didnt want the print, so went in ealier than those still queing for it, seemed a good idea to me - why make me wait while people paid for their print. and no, i didnt then go and buy the print!!
really sorry for your dissapointment. i too would be gutted. best idea so far seems to be Frankie's, imo. as for the criticisms of tlsg, i must say that all dealings i have had with them have been first rate. the staff have been great to deal with. they put on some amazing shows, and this scene would be much poorer without them. btw, i said i didnt want the print, so went in ealier than those still queing for it, seemed a good idea to me - why make me wait while people paid for their print. and no, i didnt then go and buy the print!!
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by noodles1 on Mar 12, 2008 9:49:25 GMT 1, Money taken and a recipet given is actually seen as a contract between buyer and seller by law. They obviously cannot give you the print you want but you are intitled to something of similar value and possible a little compensation. They have broken their contract with you and they need to satisfy you with outcome. DONT jus take full refund, take the piss out of them also. Im sure they have something gathering dust out back that you would really like. They know this also!!! as should POW. Yes they cant give you wot they haven't got but if they take more money knowing their stock volume of a particular item, they breach contract. See wot you can get!!!!
Money taken and a recipet given is actually seen as a contract between buyer and seller by law. They obviously cannot give you the print you want but you are intitled to something of similar value and possible a little compensation. They have broken their contract with you and they need to satisfy you with outcome. DONT jus take full refund, take the piss out of them also. Im sure they have something gathering dust out back that you would really like. They know this also!!! as should POW. Yes they cant give you wot they haven't got but if they take more money knowing their stock volume of a particular item, they breach contract. See wot you can get!!!!
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Imoy-San on Mar 12, 2008 10:00:01 GMT 1, I am sure this has been covered by other people who have responded to the initial outburst.
My dealings with TLSG have been nothing short of perfect. There are many on this forum who will vouch for their professional approach, and in some cases understanding of the madness associated with chasing limited edition prints.
If you're after one of the "Believing..." prints, ping Beejoir himself, mention what has happened and I am sure he may be able to help.
TLSG will probably offer you something in return for the disappointment.
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I am sure this has been covered by other people who have responded to the initial outburst.
My dealings with TLSG have been nothing short of perfect. There are many on this forum who will vouch for their professional approach, and in some cases understanding of the madness associated with chasing limited edition prints.
If you're after one of the "Believing..." prints, ping Beejoir himself, mention what has happened and I am sure he may be able to help.
TLSG will probably offer you something in return for the disappointment.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by onemandown72 on Mar 12, 2008 10:49:29 GMT 1, I'm horrified by this attitude from you noodles - "take the piss out of them". On what grounds? They take the time and effort to put on decent Beejoir show, that becomes a victim of it's own success. The prints sold so quickly due to the price, and also the current speculation surrounding artists. Whilst I absolutely feel for gironawatch being let down, it was an honest mistake and not something that the gallery did deliberately. why this then has seen any abuse directed at the gallery is beyond me. They are always helpful, go out of their way to keep prices down and affordable, as was specifically the case with Beejoir, and have done a lot to promote the new wave of Urban artists that have come to the fore. What is needed here is helpful suggestions to help the problem, not carte blanche to criticise a hard working and well run gallery. Almost a typical English response to a problem in look at laying blame rather than resolving this.
I'm horrified by this attitude from you noodles - "take the piss out of them". On what grounds? They take the time and effort to put on decent Beejoir show, that becomes a victim of it's own success. The prints sold so quickly due to the price, and also the current speculation surrounding artists. Whilst I absolutely feel for gironawatch being let down, it was an honest mistake and not something that the gallery did deliberately. why this then has seen any abuse directed at the gallery is beyond me. They are always helpful, go out of their way to keep prices down and affordable, as was specifically the case with Beejoir, and have done a lot to promote the new wave of Urban artists that have come to the fore. What is needed here is helpful suggestions to help the problem, not carte blanche to criticise a hard working and well run gallery. Almost a typical English response to a problem in look at laying blame rather than resolving this.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by funyoung on Mar 12, 2008 12:02:32 GMT 1, I'm horrified by this attitude from you noodles - "take the piss out of them". On what grounds? Almost a typical English response to a problem in look at laying blame rather than resolving this.
tell off noodle with one hand and alienate the whole of england with the other nice.
maybe a compromise is needed? ask for the refund, plead for compassion, do it nicely is the key.
but this thread also seems to be a love / hate tlsg thing.
the queue was terrible (letting people in who then bought the print was rubbish and then there were only approx 30 actually for sale as a lot had been sold before the show started). this is not said to 'slag them off' but maybe they read this and can learn form their mistakes?
I'm horrified by this attitude from you noodles - "take the piss out of them". On what grounds? Almost a typical English response to a problem in look at laying blame rather than resolving this. tell off noodle with one hand and alienate the whole of england with the other nice. maybe a compromise is needed? ask for the refund, plead for compassion, do it nicely is the key. but this thread also seems to be a love / hate tlsg thing. the queue was terrible (letting people in who then bought the print was rubbish and then there were only approx 30 actually for sale as a lot had been sold before the show started). this is not said to 'slag them off' but maybe they read this and can learn form their mistakes?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by dotdot on Mar 12, 2008 12:21:57 GMT 1, if my memory serves me right - tlsg gallery have an account on this very forum.
Can someone who knows them well - ask them politely to come on here and state in their perception of the situation.
I know this may be a lot to ask - but they do have a reputation to preserve. Right of reply is useful i often find.
i didn't make the thur - went down on sat to find it closed - i was grumpy but now perhaps not so much so.
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if my memory serves me right - tlsg gallery have an account on this very forum.
Can someone who knows them well - ask them politely to come on here and state in their perception of the situation.
I know this may be a lot to ask - but they do have a reputation to preserve. Right of reply is useful i often find.
i didn't make the thur - went down on sat to find it closed - i was grumpy but now perhaps not so much so.
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