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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by carlito on Jul 25, 2007 11:38:03 GMT 1, sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too 
sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:40:49 GMT 1, sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too
Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!!
sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Existencil on Jul 25, 2007 11:41:22 GMT 1, My art collection is full of artists who are soooo talented & soooo understated. I'm soooo intellectual.
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My art collection is full of artists who are soooo talented & soooo understated. I'm soooo intellectual.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by carlito on Jul 25, 2007 11:41:49 GMT 1, sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!!
phew for a min there...I thought free thought had been banned..lol
sorry I do like the SBFO image - although differing amounts for the differing versions - for me the simplicity works wonders and I happen to think I have the best version too Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!! phew for a min there...I thought free thought had been banned..lol |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by beyond on Jul 25, 2007 11:42:09 GMT 1, Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print?
i think you are gonna have to save up a lot to own a Neate probably about 3k
Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? i think you are gonna have to save up a lot to own a Neate probably about 3k |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:44:06 GMT 1, Anyone who went to the Found exhibition would have seen the Mantis AFD and E prints next to each other in simple black box frames, and IMO the AFD looked awesome, didn't really notice the other one!
Anyone who went to the Found exhibition would have seen the Mantis AFD and E prints next to each other in simple black box frames, and IMO the AFD looked awesome, didn't really notice the other one!
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:45:00 GMT 1, Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!! phew for a min there...I thought free thought had been banned..lol
LOL!
Sorry meant to say MOST of us want to like it, not ALL! Some will genuinely love the print and it remains their right to do so!! phew for a min there...I thought free thought had been banned..lol LOL! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by carlito on Jul 25, 2007 11:45:38 GMT 1, memory serves me correctly it was next to the Turin Scam - which was the piece of the show for me
memory serves me correctly it was next to the Turin Scam - which was the piece of the show for me
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:46:29 GMT 1,
When the likes of us stop buying it!
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by paolos on Jul 25, 2007 11:46:36 GMT 1, @ Carlito and Jonpud
I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art.
@ Carlito and Jonpud
I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:48:34 GMT 1, memory serves me correctly it was next to the Turin Scam - which was the piece of the show for me
That was the original, and yes for original art the TS was the piece of the show for me too, I was refering to the prints in the back room. I have to say that Nick Walkers works on metal were the bollox also!
memory serves me correctly it was next to the Turin Scam - which was the piece of the show for me That was the original, and yes for original art the TS was the piece of the show for me too, I was refering to the prints in the back room. I have to say that Nick Walkers works on metal were the bollox also! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 11:52:21 GMT 1, @ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art.
I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art!
@ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art. I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by sand on Jul 25, 2007 11:54:06 GMT 1, I was just wondering who is going to LSG to pick up the Beejoir print 2moro?
Are there going to be quite a few forum members around?
I was just wondering who is going to LSG to pick up the Beejoir print 2moro?
Are there going to be quite a few forum members around?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by carlito on Jul 25, 2007 11:56:47 GMT 1, @ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art. I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art!
or maybe because the LA show is around the corner and profits are to be made? ...me cynical? nooooo
@ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art. I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art! or maybe because the LA show is around the corner and profits are to be made? ...me cynical? nooooo |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by jonpud on Jul 25, 2007 12:01:43 GMT 1, I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art! or maybe because the LA show is around the corner and profits are to be made? ...me cynical? nooooo
As I said mate, PART of the reason! Without doubt the show is the Main reason, no your not cynical, you are factual!
I can't disagree with you, but the market is lapping it up! Perhaps this is part of why Micallef has really started to be appreciated for the genius he is! Not just images but true Art! or maybe because the LA show is around the corner and profits are to be made? ...me cynical? nooooo As I said mate, PART of the reason! Without doubt the show is the Main reason, no your not cynical, you are factual! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by numusic on Jul 25, 2007 12:36:31 GMT 1, Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print?
I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames.
Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers.
As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about.
Peace
Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames. Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers. As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about. Peace |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by Strange Al on Jul 25, 2007 12:38:49 GMT 1, @ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art.
If you really want to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, why not turn the statement on its head? The artists are producing works which make "some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture" just for the sake of selling their art. The flimsy statement and how much you believe it is largely irrelevant, providing it resonates with the public. It's not lazy art, it's good business! And as Warhol said "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art!"
I'm not saying I believe this to be the case, but I am happy to join paolos and katokato and play devil's advocate in this debate for a little bit.
@ Carlito and Jonpud I agree, there are some nice images out there, but I'm against artists producing work just for the sake of making some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture. To me, it's just lazy art. If you really want to throw the cat amongst the pigeons, why not turn the statement on its head? The artists are producing works which make "some flimsy statement about capitalism or western culture" just for the sake of selling their art. The flimsy statement and how much you believe it is largely irrelevant, providing it resonates with the public. It's not lazy art, it's good business! And as Warhol said "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art!" I'm not saying I believe this to be the case, but I am happy to join paolos and katokato and play devil's advocate in this debate for a little bit. |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by cashman on Jul 25, 2007 12:39:27 GMT 1, chips
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by corblimeylimey on Jul 25, 2007 12:50:56 GMT 1, Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames. Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers. As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about. Peace
Totally with you on this Nu.
As for which print, Mantis for me.
Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames. Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers. As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about. Peace Totally with you on this Nu. As for which print, Mantis for me. |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by barry cilit on Jul 25, 2007 12:52:03 GMT 1, Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames. Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers. As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about. Peace
I agree completely with you!
Personally, I agree with Katokato. I despise all this Pseudo-intellectualism. The political statements in Banksy's most recent work were starting to grate a little and to now see everyone else trying the same thing makes me a bit sick. In studios all around the world we hear the collective scraping of a barrel that Banksy emptied a long time ago. That aside I still wouldn't buy any of these prints, they're just not nice. Why not save up and get a nice Adam Neate print? I'm hearing this more and more...familiarity breeds contempt I guess.. but keep in mind, the content remains the same.. funny how the same people who used to be into subversive art and counter cultures are now swanning round swanky galleries forking out thousands ( or wishing they could) for mundane conservative figurative art to be put behind UV glass in museum quality swept frames. Kinda reminds me of University Students joining the socialist workers party and going on marches against Thatcher and the poll tax, when as soon as they've graduated they're after jobs in the city as corporate banksers. As for these artists being Pseudo Intellectual, how do work that out ? pertaining to knowledge they don't have ? the artists you mention are both activists. So maybe the charge should be levelled at you mate.. cos you obviously don't know what or who you're talking about. Peace I agree completely with you! |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by stuey09 on Jul 25, 2007 12:52:14 GMT 1, Hi Stuey, i prefer the Beejoir, but surely it's a matter of personal taste, so it doesnt really matter what we all think. As always scavos is right.. ;D
Huh! Not 'till I read this thread backwards did I realise it related to someone else. F**king confusing 
Dude, change your name to Silky1980 ;D
Hi Stuey, i prefer the Beejoir, but surely it's a matter of personal taste, so it doesnt really matter what we all think. As always scavos is right.. ;D Huh! Not 'till I read this thread backwards did I realise it related to someone else. F**king confusing Dude, change your name to Silky1980 ;D |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by corblimeylimey on Jul 25, 2007 12:58:05 GMT 1, Paolos, katokato & richardface, have you asked yourselves what you're doing on this forum? its a BANKSY forum, also it covers a lot of similar artists too.
If it's not your cup of tea stick to the posh art galleries.
I've just had an email from Sims Reed gallery trying to flog me prints from the like of Bacon, Hamilton, Hockney, Lichtenstein, & Warhol for between ยฃ6,000 and ยฃ45,000 a piece if that's what you like, fine, but you're in the wrong place here.
Paolos, katokato & richardface, have you asked yourselves what you're doing on this forum? its a BANKSY forum, also it covers a lot of similar artists too.
If it's not your cup of tea stick to the posh art galleries.
I've just had an email from Sims Reed gallery trying to flog me prints from the like of Bacon, Hamilton, Hockney, Lichtenstein, & Warhol for between ยฃ6,000 and ยฃ45,000 a piece if that's what you like, fine, but you're in the wrong place here.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by paolos on Jul 25, 2007 13:00:23 GMT 1, "the artists you mention are both activists"
But aren't there better ways to make stand for what you believe in? Surely making Anti-capitalist art and selling it for big bucks to Capitalists only makes you as bad as them? Or do some of the proceeds from the art go towards buying an Ethiopian a nice goat?
"the artists you mention are both activists"
But aren't there better ways to make stand for what you believe in? Surely making Anti-capitalist art and selling it for big bucks to Capitalists only makes you as bad as them? Or do some of the proceeds from the art go towards buying an Ethiopian a nice goat?
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by manchestermike on Jul 25, 2007 13:00:39 GMT 1, For me, the Beejoir by a way... for many reasons
For me, the Beejoir by a way... for many reasons
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by katokato on Jul 25, 2007 13:01:49 GMT 1, More ideas for Beejoir and Mantis (top A-level art marks guranteed)
A gun (everyone loves guns) but its made up of a flock of doves with the obligatory fig leaf in their beaks
A skinny ethiopian holding an expensive banksy print above his head
President Bush having anal sex with the world, preferably his p***s entering Africa.
An SUV eating some trees off a plate using two hippies as a knife and fork
Paris hilton shitting on a little dog (might not be obvious enough but this will be a sly observation on celebrity attitudes and how they can seemingly get away with anything)
A stencil of someone chiselling off a banksy stencil off a wall
More ideas for Beejoir and Mantis (top A-level art marks guranteed)
A gun (everyone loves guns) but its made up of a flock of doves with the obligatory fig leaf in their beaks
A skinny ethiopian holding an expensive banksy print above his head
President Bush having anal sex with the world, preferably his p***s entering Africa.
An SUV eating some trees off a plate using two hippies as a knife and fork
Paris hilton shitting on a little dog (might not be obvious enough but this will be a sly observation on celebrity attitudes and how they can seemingly get away with anything)
A stencil of someone chiselling off a banksy stencil off a wall
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by corblimeylimey on Jul 25, 2007 13:02:58 GMT 1, "the artists you mention are both activists" But aren't there better ways to make stand for what you believe in? Surely making Anti-capitalist art and selling it for big bucks to Capitalists only makes you as bad as them? Or do some of the proceeds from the art go towards buying an Ethiopian a nice goat?
ยฃ100ish big bucks? and remember the unsigned LV Child print by Beejoir was sold in aid of charity. These artists are doing the right thing for the right reasons.
"the artists you mention are both activists" But aren't there better ways to make stand for what you believe in? Surely making Anti-capitalist art and selling it for big bucks to Capitalists only makes you as bad as them? Or do some of the proceeds from the art go towards buying an Ethiopian a nice goat? ยฃ100ish big bucks? and remember the unsigned LV Child print by Beejoir was sold in aid of charity. These artists are doing the right thing for the right reasons. |
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by pezlow on Jul 25, 2007 13:05:00 GMT 1, I can't understand why producing political art is "pseudo-intellectual".
Why can't mantis and beejoir produce the art that they want to produce? If you don't like it then don't buy it.
As for capitalism don't forget that the release of LV Child was a charity print, both times I believe. If it prompts awareness and discussion on some pretty serious issues going on in the world today then even better. Souled out Studios in fact do a hell of lot for the charities that they support so please stop being so cynical about everything.
I can't understand why producing political art is "pseudo-intellectual".
Why can't mantis and beejoir produce the art that they want to produce? If you don't like it then don't buy it.
As for capitalism don't forget that the release of LV Child was a charity print, both times I believe. If it prompts awareness and discussion on some pretty serious issues going on in the world today then even better. Souled out Studios in fact do a hell of lot for the charities that they support so please stop being so cynical about everything.
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by pezlow on Jul 25, 2007 13:06:13 GMT 1, Lol - looks like we were posting at the same time CBL
Lol - looks like we were posting at the same time CBL
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Beejoir ๐ฌ๐ง LV Child โข Imodium โข Colour of Money, by corblimeylimey on Jul 25, 2007 13:07:51 GMT 1, katokato et al, if you don't like the kind of art discussed on this forum, what do you like?
katokato et al, if you don't like the kind of art discussed on this forum, what do you like?
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