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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by rosstierney on Mar 21, 2008 18:32:27 GMT 1, I didn't realise just how many prints POW had released prior to SG
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by buddings on Mar 21, 2008 20:16:13 GMT 1, wow i LOVE in europe. did these sell out or just get taken off the website? a possible chance of them reappearing?
wow i LOVE in europe. did these sell out or just get taken off the website? a possible chance of them reappearing?
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by G-Man on Mar 25, 2008 18:09:09 GMT 1, Edition of 10
Hand Finished
Nine different images
PLUS an ed of 50 print too
At the Laz Print Shop
printshop.lazinc.com/artists/3d/prints/344/
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by jfury on Mar 25, 2008 18:11:13 GMT 1, loads of good stuff in the Laz print shop thats still available....this being one of them
loads of good stuff in the Laz print shop thats still available....this being one of them
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by savilerogue on Mar 25, 2008 18:13:32 GMT 1, Does anyone know what's 'hand-finished' on these? They look remarkably similar to the SG 3D prints.
Does anyone know what's 'hand-finished' on these? They look remarkably similar to the SG 3D prints.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by mammal2 on Mar 25, 2008 18:15:45 GMT 1, bloody expensive mind! i love them though! great stuff!
bloody expensive mind! i love them though! great stuff!
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by sausageboonwee on Mar 25, 2008 18:24:45 GMT 1, I have never been able to load any of Laz's sites on my computer (mac) or my wife's (pc). It's the only site that won't load. Why is that?
I have never been able to load any of Laz's sites on my computer (mac) or my wife's (pc). It's the only site that won't load. Why is that?
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by Curley on Mar 25, 2008 18:24:49 GMT 1, bloody expensive mind! i love them though! great stuff!
oi oi mammal, go and have a look at the the war paints show on charing cross road, went this afternoon. very dark but most excellent.
bloody expensive mind! i love them though! great stuff! oi oi mammal, go and have a look at the the war paints show on charing cross road, went this afternoon. very dark but most excellent. |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by mammal2 on Mar 25, 2008 18:34:47 GMT 1, will do Curley! I will head over to there tomorrow. Thinking of having another go at Andipa.
will do Curley! I will head over to there tomorrow. Thinking of having another go at Andipa.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by seidbereit on Mar 25, 2008 18:42:27 GMT 1, Nine different images? Where...?
Nine different images? Where...?
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by ryskip on Mar 25, 2008 18:52:09 GMT 1, stupid question but how can you purchase these?
stupid question but how can you purchase these?
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by Deleted on Mar 25, 2008 18:53:46 GMT 1, call or visit in person
call or visit in person
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by cashman on Mar 25, 2008 18:54:07 GMT 1, stupid question but how can you purchase these?
over the phone I presume
stupid question but how can you purchase these? over the phone I presume |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by ryskip on Mar 25, 2008 18:56:01 GMT 1, Ah right many thanks, considering the Ghetto No Surrender sells for around ยฃ400 the price for this isn't too bad.
Ah right many thanks, considering the Ghetto No Surrender sells for around ยฃ400 the price for this isn't too bad.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by seidbereit on Mar 25, 2008 18:56:57 GMT 1, On the phone... just nabbed me a No Surrender to more than cure my depression at having missed one at SG 
On the phone... just nabbed me a No Surrender to more than cure my depression at having missed one at SG |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 20:40:41 GMT 1, Im assuming Im in the minority, but........ This is BS. The SG pieces were sold as an edition size of 25, not 25 plus 10 hand finished. Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. They printed 25 and numbered them, done deal- edition should be closed. Not 4 months later start up the printing presses (I realize its a giclee) and run out another 10 to be handfinished.
Im assuming Im in the minority, but........ This is BS. The SG pieces were sold as an edition size of 25, not 25 plus 10 hand finished. Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. They printed 25 and numbered them, done deal- edition should be closed. Not 4 months later start up the printing presses (I realize its a giclee) and run out another 10 to be handfinished.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by Francis on Mar 25, 2008 20:47:33 GMT 1, bonesy...all the hard work for these pieces have been done, such as the photography, color correction, etc. All they need to do is press "print". So, they can keep on making more and more money as long as people will buy them. I think they should make the next set an edition of 500 unsigned for about ยฃ75. Doesn't take too much work for them. That way, more people can have them on their walls.
bonesy...all the hard work for these pieces have been done, such as the photography, color correction, etc. All they need to do is press "print". So, they can keep on making more and more money as long as people will buy them. I think they should make the next set an edition of 500 unsigned for about ยฃ75. Doesn't take too much work for them. That way, more people can have them on their walls.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 21:01:56 GMT 1, bonesy...all the hard work for these pieces have been done, such as the photography, color correction, etc. All they need to do is press "print". So, they can keep on making more and more money as long as people will buy them. I think they should make the next set an edition of 500 unsigned for about ยฃ75. Doesn't take too much work for them. That way, more people can have them on their walls.
Im fine with there being large print runs but by pressing "print" after the edition size has been determined and sold they are breaking the law, hand embellished or not.
bonesy...all the hard work for these pieces have been done, such as the photography, color correction, etc. All they need to do is press "print". So, they can keep on making more and more money as long as people will buy them. I think they should make the next set an edition of 500 unsigned for about ยฃ75. Doesn't take too much work for them. That way, more people can have them on their walls. Im fine with there being large print runs but by pressing "print" after the edition size has been determined and sold they are breaking the law, hand embellished or not. |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by cpo on Mar 25, 2008 21:07:48 GMT 1, I agree. If they want a large edition, fine, no issues with that... but how about an up front and honest notice of the entire run so purchasers can decide then and there.
I agree. If they want a large edition, fine, no issues with that... but how about an up front and honest notice of the entire run so purchasers can decide then and there.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by br1stol on Mar 25, 2008 21:10:54 GMT 1, Edition of 10
Hand Finished
Nine different images
PLUS an ed of 50 print too
- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ...
Edition of 10 Hand Finished Nine different images PLUS an ed of 50 print too- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ... |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 21:14:34 GMT 1, Edition of 10 Hand Finished Nine different images PLUS an ed of 50 print too- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ...
Probably 50 more of the SG images only a different dsize print (half kidding)
Edition of 10 Hand Finished Nine different images PLUS an ed of 50 print too- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ... Probably 50 more of the SG images only a different dsize print (half kidding) |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by ryskip on Mar 25, 2008 21:39:22 GMT 1, Edition of 10 Hand Finished Nine different images PLUS an ed of 50 print too- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ...
That info is taken from news section on the laz site, note sure if that helps?
Edition of 10 Hand Finished Nine different images PLUS an ed of 50 print too- Has anyone seen the edition of 50? I cant seem to find them on LAZ... That info is taken from news section on the laz site, note sure if that helps? |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by eddiedangerous on Mar 25, 2008 21:47:00 GMT 1, Im assuming Im in the minority, but........ This is BS. The SG pieces were sold as an edition size of 25, not 25 plus 10 hand finished. Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. They printed 25 and numbered them, done deal- edition should be closed. Not 4 months later start up the printing presses (I realize its a giclee) and run out another 10 to be handfinished.
very good point
Im assuming Im in the minority, but........ This is BS. The SG pieces were sold as an edition size of 25, not 25 plus 10 hand finished. Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. They printed 25 and numbered them, done deal- edition should be closed. Not 4 months later start up the printing presses (I realize its a giclee) and run out another 10 to be handfinished. very good point |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 21:48:50 GMT 1, Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. How dare they replace damaged prints! Burn the witches!
Ive brought this topic up many times and stand alone. The integrityof the print run should be first and foremost. If they want to replace prints that they damage by crappy packaging then they should put some aside. Once a print edition is numbered that should be it. They print up extras and leave them laying around the office in case some get damaged in shipping. There was one cat on here that had a damaged print replaced 8 months after the original purchase that he had damaged after receiving it, WTF is that about? And folks wonder why there are so many Banksy back door prints........ This followed by them now "extending" the 3D run of 25 prints shows their complete disregard for print runs and any integrity that most printing houses have.
Just like replacing damaged prints with the same numbered print and having unnumbered unlabeled prints laying around their office, this is another example of these guys having no integrity in terms of the print run. How dare they replace damaged prints! Burn the witches! Ive brought this topic up many times and stand alone. The integrityof the print run should be first and foremost. If they want to replace prints that they damage by crappy packaging then they should put some aside. Once a print edition is numbered that should be it. They print up extras and leave them laying around the office in case some get damaged in shipping. There was one cat on here that had a damaged print replaced 8 months after the original purchase that he had damaged after receiving it, WTF is that about? And folks wonder why there are so many Banksy back door prints........ This followed by them now "extending" the 3D run of 25 prints shows their complete disregard for print runs and any integrity that most printing houses have. |
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by holden on Mar 25, 2008 22:13:19 GMT 1, Bonesy, quite agree
25 is 25 not 25 + 10 + 50 + ?
I guess ? is determined by demand.
Bought the Lister book a while ago from Monster children gallery. Supposedly a hand numbered ed of 100. What I got was a photocopy of this, no number. They couldnt understand why I returned it and told them they were unprofessional, esp as it was only $15.
I guess you market it, sorry call it a varied edition of 10 that are all hand finished orignals!
Far more desirable than those common old prints from a run of 25
The print class system is alive and well
Bonesy, quite agree
25 is 25 not 25 + 10 + 50 + ?
I guess ? is determined by demand.
Bought the Lister book a while ago from Monster children gallery. Supposedly a hand numbered ed of 100. What I got was a photocopy of this, no number. They couldnt understand why I returned it and told them they were unprofessional, esp as it was only $15.
I guess you market it, sorry call it a varied edition of 10 that are all hand finished orignals!
Far more desirable than those common old prints from a run of 25
The print class system is alive and well
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 22:14:50 GMT 1, banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1205185190&page=1
Add this to my complaint list also. I guess Laz is printing up more of these prints with a Blue background as well. So its not 25 prints. Its not 25 prints PLUS 10 hand embellished. It is (for now) 25 RED prints, 10 RED hand embellished prints, and an unknown number of BLUE prints.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by bonesy on Mar 25, 2008 22:20:09 GMT 1,
And price the "new 10" at the market value of the original 25 so anyone that was thinking about buying one of the 25 will surely shell out the money to us for one these super-duper edition of 10. As a consequence the edition of 25 that was worth $900 will now be worth $600, but who gives a sh*t.
And price the "new 10" at the market value of the original 25 so anyone that was thinking about buying one of the 25 will surely shell out the money to us for one these super-duper edition of 10. As a consequence the edition of 25 that was worth $900 will now be worth $600, but who gives a sh*t.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by Heavyconsumer on Mar 25, 2008 22:35:47 GMT 1, I agree. It shows utter discontempt for the SG buyers of 3D's prints. In this case, most of those were flippers as proven by ebay action in recent months. So the collectors that have been prepared to "support" the artist by snapping these up at a higher premium 2nd hand are being totally screwed!
I'm very surprisedby this. The only fair answer is to sort out some new and original work for later releases rather than recycling older runs. They were free to choose the original edition size and price. They should not consider themselves free to now extend and devalue those original editions.
I agree. It shows utter discontempt for the SG buyers of 3D's prints. In this case, most of those were flippers as proven by ebay action in recent months. So the collectors that have been prepared to "support" the artist by snapping these up at a higher premium 2nd hand are being totally screwed!
I'm very surprisedby this. The only fair answer is to sort out some new and original work for later releases rather than recycling older runs. They were free to choose the original edition size and price. They should not consider themselves free to now extend and devalue those original editions.
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by seidbereit on Mar 25, 2008 22:42:21 GMT 1, On a comparable note maybe... when Laz released the edition of 100 Conor Harringtons a few weeks ago as it clear then that there would be a hand-finished edition to follow? I ask purely out of interest as I didn't know about the HF version of that until it was sold out and I already had a standard version (which I prefer I'd add).
On a comparable note maybe... when Laz released the edition of 100 Conor Harringtons a few weeks ago as it clear then that there would be a hand-finished edition to follow? I ask purely out of interest as I didn't know about the HF version of that until it was sold out and I already had a standard version (which I prefer I'd add).
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Robert Del Naja ๐ฌ๐ง 3D โข Street Artist โข Massive Attack , by lastpost on Mar 25, 2008 22:52:30 GMT 1, I am completely though with the whole POW/Laz thing.
I bought some 3D prints when POW came back on in Feb however they cancelled my order (I think to supply Laz print shop). They fobbed me off - unfortunately they have most us us by the nuts :-(
I am completely though with the whole POW/Laz thing.
I bought some 3D prints when POW came back on in Feb however they cancelled my order (I think to supply Laz print shop). They fobbed me off - unfortunately they have most us us by the nuts :-(
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