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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 24, 2008 22:34:59 GMT 1, ok ok, I did get a bit extreme. apologies. And yes she is in a different league from 99% of the artists we discuss here.
ok ok, I did get a bit extreme. apologies. And yes she is in a different league from 99% of the artists we discuss here.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by slowmo on Mar 24, 2008 22:41:12 GMT 1, I think that she falls into a grouping of artists, a little elbow toe, a little armsrock and a little gaia. Interestingly they are all repped in the UK by BRP. Wouldn't say she was better than any other artists discussed, but would really like the Argentina print (again BRP)
I think that she falls into a grouping of artists, a little elbow toe, a little armsrock and a little gaia. Interestingly they are all repped in the UK by BRP. Wouldn't say she was better than any other artists discussed, but would really like the Argentina print (again BRP)
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Mar 24, 2008 22:44:22 GMT 1, I think shes great and will outlast 95% of the artists from the "street art scene". Nevertheless, her recent shows have become way too repetitious. Same feel, same images...
I think shes great and will outlast 95% of the artists from the "street art scene". Nevertheless, her recent shows have become way too repetitious. Same feel, same images...
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 24, 2008 22:46:45 GMT 1, ok ok, I did get a bit extreme. apologies. And yes she is in a different league from 99% of the artists we discuss here.
You can't say that and not back it up with reasoning
ok ok, I did get a bit extreme. apologies. And yes she is in a different league from 99% of the artists we discuss here. You can't say that and not back it up with reasoning |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 24, 2008 22:47:20 GMT 1, I think shes great and will outlast 95% of the artists from the "street art scene";. Nevertheless, her recent shows have become way too repetitious. Same feel, same images...
How come?
I think shes great and will outlast 95% of the artists from the "street art scene";. Nevertheless, her recent shows have become way too repetitious. Same feel, same images... How come? |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Mar 24, 2008 22:54:26 GMT 1, Mike, w/o going into multiple paragraphs, I think she offers layers of provocation that a lot of the popular street artists can not capture. To me her work transcends time with subtle and somber sophistication. I find too many in this scene create quick hitting "ads" that becomes dated quickly.
Mike, w/o going into multiple paragraphs, I think she offers layers of provocation that a lot of the popular street artists can not capture. To me her work transcends time with subtle and somber sophistication. I find too many in this scene create quick hitting "ads" that becomes dated quickly.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 24, 2008 22:59:22 GMT 1, Mike, w/o going into multiple paragraphs, I think she offers layers of provocation that a lot of the popular street artists can not capture. To me her work transcends time with subtle and somber sophistication. I find too many in this scene create quick hitting "ads" that becomes dated quickly.
But is it not because Swoon's work already looks 'dated' due to her style that it won't date quickly like other artists who have a more modern outlook? I wonder with Swoon where else can she go with her art, while other artists are constantly reinventing and innovating it seems to me that Swoon is staying static
Mike, w/o going into multiple paragraphs, I think she offers layers of provocation that a lot of the popular street artists can not capture. To me her work transcends time with subtle and somber sophistication. I find too many in this scene create quick hitting "ads" that becomes dated quickly. But is it not because Swoon's work already looks 'dated' due to her style that it won't date quickly like other artists who have a more modern outlook? I wonder with Swoon where else can she go with her art, while other artists are constantly reinventing and innovating it seems to me that Swoon is staying static |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by otomi on Mar 24, 2008 23:09:30 GMT 1, Swoon has changed over time - she is using now a lot more color and different materials she always used all kinds of techniques - most artist use stencil, brush or a camera their whole career.
I'm glad her art is available again for some time the smallest pieces would get crazy prices on ebay. Right now you can buy plenty of stuff on the primary market.
For me Swoon is the essence of street art. An artist who creates art and puts it on the street for people to see. If you ever had a Swoon piece in your neighborhood and watched falling apart over time you know a gallery show can never recreate that. Also she is not about the money a lot of her stuff is for charity and it took for ever before things were available to buy.
Swoon has changed over time - she is using now a lot more color and different materials she always used all kinds of techniques - most artist use stencil, brush or a camera their whole career.
I'm glad her art is available again for some time the smallest pieces would get crazy prices on ebay. Right now you can buy plenty of stuff on the primary market.
For me Swoon is the essence of street art. An artist who creates art and puts it on the street for people to see. If you ever had a Swoon piece in your neighborhood and watched falling apart over time you know a gallery show can never recreate that. Also she is not about the money a lot of her stuff is for charity and it took for ever before things were available to buy.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 24, 2008 23:37:39 GMT 1, I'm not convinced, maybe she's using more colour and materials now but even so her work... to me at least... seems very much the same, content, style, technique... I don't see an evolution.
Isn't Swoon putting art on the street the same as any other street artist? I don't see the difference there. And I know she does a lot for charity, but that doesn't change her art.
Maybe I'm missing something with her work, I don't know... but I honestly have tried and just don't see it
I'm not convinced, maybe she's using more colour and materials now but even so her work... to me at least... seems very much the same, content, style, technique... I don't see an evolution.
Isn't Swoon putting art on the street the same as any other street artist? I don't see the difference there. And I know she does a lot for charity, but that doesn't change her art.
Maybe I'm missing something with her work, I don't know... but I honestly have tried and just don't see it
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 24, 2008 23:46:26 GMT 1, I guess a lot comes down to taste. But since you asked, I will share. But before I do, Mike, I have a question for you in particular, as I respect your opinion. Why such an attraction to Dface. I know your a big fan, and for the life of me I cant wrap my head around his work. So if you could tell me what attracts you to his work I would love the insight.
For me Swoon trancends art as something tangible. I dont look at her work as specific people although they most certainly are. I dont think she is necessarily trying to even make portraits. I think she is conveying emotion ( much in the same way Parla does for me). You can look at these people and "feel" them. To take it further, on my subway piece, sometimes I think the chick is smirking and other times I think she looks upset. I cant explain why but it is definitely there for me. I love her line work. It's tight yet loose at the same time, her pieces have a flow to them, almost a guide for your eye. I love that decay is a main theme in her body of work. It just suits me and im glad to have found her work at a point where I could still afford to buy some. I also have tons of confidence in her representation all over the world. I feel like i could own them forever and they would always have relevance.
As for redundancy in her shows. I think its more of bringing a "show" on a tour. As opposed to new work at every show. Kind of like Barry McGee exhibits. Her medium of block printing lends itsself to reproduction. Thus things get sold at each event. She has been trickling out some new stuff here and there. She is the type of artist that falls asleep sitting at her desk working. She will be a successful, prolific artist for a long time.
I guess a lot comes down to taste. But since you asked, I will share. But before I do, Mike, I have a question for you in particular, as I respect your opinion. Why such an attraction to Dface. I know your a big fan, and for the life of me I cant wrap my head around his work. So if you could tell me what attracts you to his work I would love the insight.
For me Swoon trancends art as something tangible. I dont look at her work as specific people although they most certainly are. I dont think she is necessarily trying to even make portraits. I think she is conveying emotion ( much in the same way Parla does for me). You can look at these people and "feel" them. To take it further, on my subway piece, sometimes I think the chick is smirking and other times I think she looks upset. I cant explain why but it is definitely there for me. I love her line work. It's tight yet loose at the same time, her pieces have a flow to them, almost a guide for your eye. I love that decay is a main theme in her body of work. It just suits me and im glad to have found her work at a point where I could still afford to buy some. I also have tons of confidence in her representation all over the world. I feel like i could own them forever and they would always have relevance.
As for redundancy in her shows. I think its more of bringing a "show" on a tour. As opposed to new work at every show. Kind of like Barry McGee exhibits. Her medium of block printing lends itsself to reproduction. Thus things get sold at each event. She has been trickling out some new stuff here and there. She is the type of artist that falls asleep sitting at her desk working. She will be a successful, prolific artist for a long time.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 24, 2008 23:59:39 GMT 1, Hi Scott,
I wouldn't say I'm a big D*Face fan, I like some of his work, but some leaves me pretty cold... I like the older work, the D*Dogs the blocky men (did they ever have a name)? the simplicity of it works for me, the fact you could find one on the street on a rare visit to London looking down at you from a building, the clever placement of them... something that seems to be forgotten with his later works... the Pop Tarts / Cli-Chรฉ did the opposite of grow on me (shrank on me?) although I thought some of the collages worked well... Kant Complain I also like but that's because I'm a fan of Kurt... I suppose with D* he works best when he is quirky, when he's having fun and not trying so hard... that's when I enjoy it, the fun side.
I appreciate your view on Swoon and I know you're a big fan, but the emotion side of it doesn't reach me one bit, when I see them I don't feel them at all... but I get the same with Armsrock... for me it's a pretty picture (well, it isn't even that as I don't think they can be described as pretty - well none that I've seen)... there is nothing there that would make me look over and over... no enjoyment for me with them
Hi Scott,
I wouldn't say I'm a big D*Face fan, I like some of his work, but some leaves me pretty cold... I like the older work, the D*Dogs the blocky men (did they ever have a name)? the simplicity of it works for me, the fact you could find one on the street on a rare visit to London looking down at you from a building, the clever placement of them... something that seems to be forgotten with his later works... the Pop Tarts / Cli-Chรฉ did the opposite of grow on me (shrank on me?) although I thought some of the collages worked well... Kant Complain I also like but that's because I'm a fan of Kurt... I suppose with D* he works best when he is quirky, when he's having fun and not trying so hard... that's when I enjoy it, the fun side.
I appreciate your view on Swoon and I know you're a big fan, but the emotion side of it doesn't reach me one bit, when I see them I don't feel them at all... but I get the same with Armsrock... for me it's a pretty picture (well, it isn't even that as I don't think they can be described as pretty - well none that I've seen)... there is nothing there that would make me look over and over... no enjoyment for me with them
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 25, 2008 0:06:52 GMT 1, fair play to you. good talk.
fair play to you. good talk.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Mar 25, 2008 10:01:47 GMT 1, It's always difficult to explain why you like an artist or a particular piece by an artist as so much of it is about your personal reaction to it.
I'll give it a go though. When I was a giggling school boy at the age of 15 doing O level art my teacher decided that we were going to have a life class. Now you can well imagine how exciting this was to the adolescent mind - an nude adult female there for me to see. Phwooarrh.
Well of course the reality was that the female in question was old enough to be my grandmother, with flab and wrinkles and spots and blemishes etc etc. Needless to say my reaction was one of horror and disgust - a typical immature reaction.
As I have grown up a bit I have learned that beauty is not just about the Naomi Campbell's of this world. Swoon's portraits have a lived in feel to them. She seeks out and creates wonderfully intricate portraits of people that the mainstream media have left behind. The woman who stiches a soccer ball in latin america, the man who feeds pigeons in a park ignored by all the men in suits rushing past obsessed with their frantic money driven lives.
Swoon makes us stop and think about the world in which we live. She reminds us that there is more to life than MTV and Jimmy Choo shoes. There is a whole world out there of the disenfranchised, the old, the people who would conventionally be decribed as ugly, the economic migrants who pick up your litter and clean your toilets.
Swoon's art speaks for them - it challenges the norm - to an older generation they find it quite disturbing and difficult to deal with.
It finds beauty in the ugly and disenfranchised. And that is why I love it.
It's always difficult to explain why you like an artist or a particular piece by an artist as so much of it is about your personal reaction to it.
I'll give it a go though. When I was a giggling school boy at the age of 15 doing O level art my teacher decided that we were going to have a life class. Now you can well imagine how exciting this was to the adolescent mind - an nude adult female there for me to see. Phwooarrh.
Well of course the reality was that the female in question was old enough to be my grandmother, with flab and wrinkles and spots and blemishes etc etc. Needless to say my reaction was one of horror and disgust - a typical immature reaction.
As I have grown up a bit I have learned that beauty is not just about the Naomi Campbell's of this world. Swoon's portraits have a lived in feel to them. She seeks out and creates wonderfully intricate portraits of people that the mainstream media have left behind. The woman who stiches a soccer ball in latin america, the man who feeds pigeons in a park ignored by all the men in suits rushing past obsessed with their frantic money driven lives.
Swoon makes us stop and think about the world in which we live. She reminds us that there is more to life than MTV and Jimmy Choo shoes. There is a whole world out there of the disenfranchised, the old, the people who would conventionally be decribed as ugly, the economic migrants who pick up your litter and clean your toilets.
Swoon's art speaks for them - it challenges the norm - to an older generation they find it quite disturbing and difficult to deal with.
It finds beauty in the ugly and disenfranchised. And that is why I love it.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by leumasdarnley on Mar 25, 2008 11:42:05 GMT 1, Swoon will have her day stay in the game long enough it will happen look at Nick Walker I mean a year ago Nick was semi struggling. TMA series is cool but it didn't make it happen for him IMO its just like anything right place right time. Ron English has the best quote its something like... Keep doing what you do until the rest of the world gets it. Swoon is cool but the old woman imagery of late just doesn't have that street edge for me.
Swoon will have her day stay in the game long enough it will happen look at Nick Walker I mean a year ago Nick was semi struggling. TMA series is cool but it didn't make it happen for him IMO its just like anything right place right time. Ron English has the best quote its something like... Keep doing what you do until the rest of the world gets it. Swoon is cool but the old woman imagery of late just doesn't have that street edge for me.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Gentle Mental on Mar 25, 2008 11:44:32 GMT 1, It's always difficult to explain why you like an artist or a particular piece by an artist as so much of it is about your personal reaction to it. I'll give it a go though. When I was a giggling school boy at the age of 15 doing O level art my teacher decided that we were going to have a life class. Now you can well imagine how exciting this was to the adolescent mind - an nude adult female there for me to see. Phwooarrh. Well of course the reality was that the female in question was old enough to be my grandmother, with flab and wrinkles and spots and blemishes etc etc. Needless to say my reaction was one of horror and disgust - a typical immature reaction. As I have grown up a bit I have learned that beauty is not just about the Naomi Campbell's of this world. Swoon's portraits have a lived in feel to them. She seeks out and creates wonderfully intricate portraits of people that the mainstream media have left behind. The woman who stiches a soccer ball in latin america, the man who feeds pigeons in a park ignored by all the men in suits rushing past obsessed with their frantic money driven lives. Swoon makes us stop and think about the world in which we live. She reminds us that there is more to life than MTV and Jimmy Choo shoes. There is a whole world out there of the disenfranchised, the old, the people who would conventionally be decribed as ugly, the economic migrants who pick up your litter and clean your toilets. Swoon's art speaks for them - it challenges the norm - to an older generation they find it quite disturbing and difficult to deal with. It finds beauty in the ugly and disenfranchised. And that is why I love it.
that gave me the goosebumps too!
It's always difficult to explain why you like an artist or a particular piece by an artist as so much of it is about your personal reaction to it. I'll give it a go though. When I was a giggling school boy at the age of 15 doing O level art my teacher decided that we were going to have a life class. Now you can well imagine how exciting this was to the adolescent mind - an nude adult female there for me to see. Phwooarrh. Well of course the reality was that the female in question was old enough to be my grandmother, with flab and wrinkles and spots and blemishes etc etc. Needless to say my reaction was one of horror and disgust - a typical immature reaction. As I have grown up a bit I have learned that beauty is not just about the Naomi Campbell's of this world. Swoon's portraits have a lived in feel to them. She seeks out and creates wonderfully intricate portraits of people that the mainstream media have left behind. The woman who stiches a soccer ball in latin america, the man who feeds pigeons in a park ignored by all the men in suits rushing past obsessed with their frantic money driven lives. Swoon makes us stop and think about the world in which we live. She reminds us that there is more to life than MTV and Jimmy Choo shoes. There is a whole world out there of the disenfranchised, the old, the people who would conventionally be decribed as ugly, the economic migrants who pick up your litter and clean your toilets. Swoon's art speaks for them - it challenges the norm - to an older generation they find it quite disturbing and difficult to deal with. It finds beauty in the ugly and disenfranchised. And that is why I love it. that gave me the goosebumps too! |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Mar 25, 2008 14:15:56 GMT 1, How the swoon argentina print from BRP hasn't sold out is beyond me. If a better print has been released this year I am yet to see it.
How the swoon argentina print from BRP hasn't sold out is beyond me. If a better print has been released this year I am yet to see it.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by bobbymeachamjr on Mar 25, 2008 16:14:12 GMT 1, From Advertising 101, it all about demographics. This scene is fueled overwhelmingly by males in their 20's early 30s. Check out the brp d*face street improvements. Sold out instantly. IMO a hight school level "piece" but it has the demographic appeal...
From Advertising 101, it all about demographics. This scene is fueled overwhelmingly by males in their 20's early 30s. Check out the brp d*face street improvements. Sold out instantly. IMO a hight school level "piece" but it has the demographic appeal...
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by dotdot on Mar 25, 2008 16:40:53 GMT 1, How the swoon argentina print from BRP hasn't sold out is beyond me. If a better print has been released this year I am yet to see it.
you missed it mate - the 5th man 
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How the swoon argentina print from BRP hasn't sold out is beyond me. If a better print has been released this year I am yet to see it. you missed it mate - the 5th man .. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by pezlow on Mar 25, 2008 18:19:26 GMT 1, Nope, didn't miss that - could have bought it if I wanted to but decided against. Nice print though (but not as nice as Argentina)
Nope, didn't miss that - could have bought it if I wanted to but decided against. Nice print though (but not as nice as Argentina)
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Mar 25, 2008 18:21:46 GMT 1, Matt Small's etching
Matt Small's etching
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by otomi on Mar 25, 2008 18:27:21 GMT 1, Isn't Swoon putting art on the street the same as any other street artist? I don't see the difference there.
I didn't try to say she is better than other street artists just said she is a really good street artist and her pieces work best on the street. I can accept that she is not everyones taste but I think she is a great artist and is doing her thing. She recreates people she sees on the street and put them back in the streets. There are enough people doing stencils with grenades and flowers etc.
Isn't Swoon putting art on the street the same as any other street artist? I don't see the difference there. I didn't try to say she is better than other street artists just said she is a really good street artist and her pieces work best on the street. I can accept that she is not everyones taste but I think she is a great artist and is doing her thing. She recreates people she sees on the street and put them back in the streets. There are enough people doing stencils with grenades and flowers etc. |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 25, 2008 19:07:05 GMT 1, My new piece. 5 ft x 3 ft on found car door. linocut on craft paper with spraypaint, and collage
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by arcam on Mar 25, 2008 19:09:27 GMT 1, ricosg11 that's really nice. One of the best Swoon's I've seen.
ricosg11 that's really nice. One of the best Swoon's I've seen.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by leumasdarnley on Mar 25, 2008 20:00:41 GMT 1, ricosg11 that's really nice. One of the best Swoon's I've seen.
Ditto very nice
ricosg11 that's really nice. One of the best Swoon's I've seen. Ditto very nice |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by dkla on Mar 25, 2008 20:52:16 GMT 1, ricosg11, your Swoon collection is simply incredible. Good work and congratulations on those acquisitions 
ricosg11, your Swoon collection is simply incredible. Good work and congratulations on those acquisitions |
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Francis on Mar 25, 2008 20:57:19 GMT 1, ricosg11 is it signed?
ricosg11 is it signed?
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 25, 2008 21:25:40 GMT 1, yes just very hard to read the sig. Its on the metal on the lower right. I must have asked that question 100 times.
yes just very hard to read the sig. Its on the metal on the lower right. I must have asked that question 100 times.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by ricosg11 on Mar 25, 2008 22:14:13 GMT 1, yea that one is beautiful too. Lil too rich for my blood though. The stencil work on my piece was a very nice surprise as its not in the gallery stock photo. This thing just keeps blowing me away. I wish my frame shop didnt take a month to do work.
yea that one is beautiful too. Lil too rich for my blood though. The stencil work on my piece was a very nice surprise as its not in the gallery stock photo. This thing just keeps blowing me away. I wish my frame shop didnt take a month to do work.
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Swoon ๐บ๐ธ Contemporary Art โข Street Art โข Art For Sale, by Francis on Mar 26, 2008 0:51:43 GMT 1, yea that one is beautiful too. Lil too rich for my blood though.
How much is it? Is it over $3,000USD?
yea that one is beautiful too. Lil too rich for my blood though. How much is it? Is it over $3,000USD? |
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