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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 19, 2017 0:50:32 GMT 1, Artist selling art to make a living is not nonsese, just the plain truth. That statement is a fact. This statement is not. BANKSY selling art to make a living is not nonsese, just the plain truth. You don't find it ironic that his 'art' he sells is the exact same thing his morons prints mock? Selling to VIPs is nonsense. Saying it's a change of goals and mindset could be seen as cash grabs and selling out. Setting up a stall in NYC and selling originals at $50. That was genius. Selling secret prints to millionaires is not. Oh I don't know, taking 100's of thousands from the rich to re-invest in Weston Super Mare and Bethlehem whilst raising the issue of Palestine and at the same time creating two of the world's most talked about art projects..pretty impressive for an ex vandal if you ask me.
So now we are back on banksy the great humanitarian? Is he an artist or a humanitarian. If he's both and is great at a humanitarian that doesn't make him great as being and artist and vise versa.
Now when he closes the hotel, how will you feel? Just another rich humanitarian swooping in to throw some money - make some awareness and poof it's all gone.
What will happen to all those originals?
Artist selling art to make a living is not nonsese, just the plain truth. That statement is a fact. This statement is not. BANKSY selling art to make a living is not nonsese, just the plain truth. You don't find it ironic that his 'art' he sells is the exact same thing his morons prints mock? Selling to VIPs is nonsense. Saying it's a change of goals and mindset could be seen as cash grabs and selling out. Setting up a stall in NYC and selling originals at $50. That was genius. Selling secret prints to millionaires is not. Oh I don't know, taking 100's of thousands from the rich to re-invest in Weston Super Mare and Bethlehem whilst raising the issue of Palestine and at the same time creating two of the world's most talked about art projects..pretty impressive for an ex vandal if you ask me. So now we are back on banksy the great humanitarian? Is he an artist or a humanitarian. If he's both and is great at a humanitarian that doesn't make him great as being and artist and vise versa. Now when he closes the hotel, how will you feel? Just another rich humanitarian swooping in to throw some money - make some awareness and poof it's all gone. What will happen to all those originals?
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2017 1:11:23 GMT 1, It's like literally seeing someone trying to argue that black is white. Haha
It's like literally seeing someone trying to argue that black is white. Haha
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by snoozy on Mar 19, 2017 1:18:04 GMT 1, If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat...
If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat...
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by nex on Mar 19, 2017 1:23:03 GMT 1, If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat... exactly
This place for the main = self interest
If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat... exactly This place for the main = self interest
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 19, 2017 1:24:53 GMT 1, If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat...
lol seriously?
This tells you what the brand banksy has become.
For the record on me. I'm fine with my WCP copies. And you know what I bet the original banksy would be on my side!
If you read carefully between the lines you can almost spot who owns a Banksy print and who missed the boat... lol seriously? This tells you what the brand banksy has become. For the record on me. I'm fine with my WCP copies. And you know what I bet the original banksy would be on my side!
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by .dappy on Mar 19, 2017 1:27:01 GMT 1, ... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ...
... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ...
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by nex on Mar 19, 2017 3:09:39 GMT 1, Agreed
Although I've learnt altruism is bad, helping those in need is bad, left is right and to some confusion = sense.
Agreed
Although I've learnt altruism is bad, helping those in need is bad, left is right and to some confusion = sense.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 8:10:09 GMT 1, Oh I don't know, taking 100's of thousands from the rich to re-invest in Weston Super Mare and Bethlehem whilst raising the issue of Palestine and at the same time creating two of the world's most talked about art projects..pretty impressive for an ex vandal if you ask me. So now we are back on banksy the great humanitarian? Is he an artist or a humanitarian. If he's both and is great at a humanitarian that doesn't make him great as being and artist and vise versa. He is a guy whose art i like, i also like that by looking at his art, and following what he does, it helps my little brain to think outside of Me, My family, My job, My bills etc
Now when he closes the hotel, how will you feel? Just another rich humanitarian swooping in to throw some money - make some awareness and poof it's all gone. How will I feel?
I have learnt some stuff, and perhaps will understand something a little clearer than before, thats how I will feel, and in fact feel already. I am just one of the masses, not an intellectual, not a Uni guy, just an average person who reads things, watches things, forms an opinion, then something like this comes along, and i look at it again, do some reading, listen to peoples opinions, watch some youtube :-) buy a couple of books, talk to people, Open my eyes and my ears What will happen to all those originals? I would imagine the originals have already sold and will go the owners when the place shuts, this is fine with me, thats how he and his team have decided to do it after trying it other ways.
Its all good
Oh I don't know, taking 100's of thousands from the rich to re-invest in Weston Super Mare and Bethlehem whilst raising the issue of Palestine and at the same time creating two of the world's most talked about art projects..pretty impressive for an ex vandal if you ask me. So now we are back on banksy the great humanitarian? Is he an artist or a humanitarian. If he's both and is great at a humanitarian that doesn't make him great as being and artist and vise versa. He is a guy whose art i like, i also like that by looking at his art, and following what he does, it helps my little brain to think outside of Me, My family, My job, My bills etc
Now when he closes the hotel, how will you feel? Just another rich humanitarian swooping in to throw some money - make some awareness and poof it's all gone. How will I feel?
I have learnt some stuff, and perhaps will understand something a little clearer than before, thats how I will feel, and in fact feel already. I am just one of the masses, not an intellectual, not a Uni guy, just an average person who reads things, watches things, forms an opinion, then something like this comes along, and i look at it again, do some reading, listen to peoples opinions, watch some youtube :-) buy a couple of books, talk to people, Open my eyes and my ears What will happen to all those originals? I would imagine the originals have already sold and will go the owners when the place shuts, this is fine with me, thats how he and his team have decided to do it after trying it other ways.
Its all good
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by barsukauk on Mar 19, 2017 9:35:48 GMT 1, ... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ...
What fotos??? If you book one room you only will do Fotos on tore room! Or you think any one is going to let you into other rooms to do fotos???
... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ... What fotos??? If you book one room you only will do Fotos on tore room! Or you think any one is going to let you into other rooms to do fotos???
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by .dappy on Mar 19, 2017 9:38:20 GMT 1, ... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ... What fotos??? If you book one room you only will do Fotos on tore room! Or you think any one is going to let you into other rooms to do fotos??? ... who mentioned people wandering into other people's rooms? ... open your eyes ... 🙄
... I just waiting for the next crop of photos and people's experiences at the Hotel and the surrounds to be posted on this thread tbh ... What fotos??? If you book one room you only will do Fotos on tore room! Or you think any one is going to let you into other rooms to do fotos??? ... who mentioned people wandering into other people's rooms? ... open your eyes ... 🙄
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Neate Michael on Mar 19, 2017 12:17:51 GMT 1, This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500.
This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Lroy on Mar 19, 2017 12:42:42 GMT 1, Amazing pics @11 !! Wow 😳!
Amazing pics @11 !! Wow 😳!
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Coach on Mar 19, 2017 13:43:24 GMT 1, Thank you for the pics 11
Thank you for the pics 11
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Ruggs on Mar 19, 2017 15:03:51 GMT 1, Yeah, thanks 11 for all the photos you've posted on here. Great stuff! Wish I was the one behind the lense.
Yeah, thanks 11 for all the photos you've posted on here. Great stuff! Wish I was the one behind the lense.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 19, 2017 16:15:08 GMT 1, This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500.
You think if he did editions of 500 his prices would stay so high?
Man banksy now has his fans blaming themselves. His status is now really at the point he can't do anything wrong. Quite crazy.
And you have a good question. Why isn't he doing a book? And open edition?
This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500. You think if he did editions of 500 his prices would stay so high? Man banksy now has his fans blaming themselves. His status is now really at the point he can't do anything wrong. Quite crazy. And you have a good question. Why isn't he doing a book? And open edition?
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by .dappy on Mar 19, 2017 16:32:35 GMT 1, Rouen Cathedral ... why don't you start another Thread of your endless and circular discussion ... and leave this thread for the enjoyment of the Hotel itself...
Rouen Cathedral ... why don't you start another Thread of your endless and circular discussion ... and leave this thread for the enjoyment of the Hotel itself...
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:59:51 GMT 1, This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500. You think if he did editions of 500 his prices would stay so high? Man banksy now has his fans blaming themselves. His status is now really at the point he can't do anything wrong. Quite crazy. And you have a good question. Why isn't he doing a book? And open edition?
please stop
This arguing over Banksy selling prints to VIPs. I've been on this board since flags came out. I remember that we were told by POW that he knows he sells his prints under market value but he wanted to do it for his fans. And then we fucked it up for him. Prints were flipped, queues were jumped by organized flippers and the Choose Your Weapon debacle was the end. He'd had enough. He chose to sell prints at market value to people that won't flip them. We had our chance but greed ruined it. I've no problem with how he operates now. I wouldn't mind another book or an open edition print with profits donated to charity. But I can understand why he ain't doing editions of 500 at £500. You think if he did editions of 500 his prices would stay so high? Man banksy now has his fans blaming themselves. His status is now really at the point he can't do anything wrong. Quite crazy. And you have a good question. Why isn't he doing a book? And open edition? please stop
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Wearology on Mar 19, 2017 18:17:34 GMT 1, His VIP prints & VIP canvases have been flipped as well.
His VIP prints & VIP canvases have been flipped as well.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 21:06:30 GMT 1, He's done that before and will (probably?) do it again in the future. prints, multiples or original works, with or without the hotel. I can't see any problem with that? He's an artist, that's how artists make a living, selling artworks to people. Is he an artist or social justice warrior first? When his arts great everyone wants to talk about that and how great an artist he is. When his arts poor people get all upset if it's criticized and people want to ignore it. Especially if it has a 'nice' theme. Can't have it both ways. Oh and speaking about artists selling art to make a living. Don't give me that nonsense haha. That's garbage especially when many other artists get flack for their print prices. Yet it's okay for banksy to sell prints to the uber rich. Forget actual fans of his. Banksy isn't selling 40$ prints to make ends meet and continue his passion on painting on walls. Ironically it seems you are defending him for basically being everything he despised early on. An artist making a living. Now that's hilarious.
He gave the art (his art included) to the local community. He has made his name and money a long time before this hotel project.
Selling his art today to the uber rich, thats life. Going from selling his prints for fifty quid at the beginning to fifty thousand makes no difference to me or if he drives a Bentley turbo tortoise with a big spoiler on the back and spray cans exhausts.
People had their chance to buy at low prices and why did many consider them less desirable to own then than now is not down to Banksy. It's down to the individuals who buy now at high prices and who would never have bought at low prices. The very wealthy like to be seen shopping and like to buy what other wealthy people buy.
There is nothing to criticise in reality with the Walled Off Hotel and the reason for doing it. There are times when having a lot of money to hand enables good projects like this one.
The media takes notice. The wealthy take notice and the young take notice.
He's done that before and will (probably?) do it again in the future. prints, multiples or original works, with or without the hotel. I can't see any problem with that? He's an artist, that's how artists make a living, selling artworks to people. Is he an artist or social justice warrior first? When his arts great everyone wants to talk about that and how great an artist he is. When his arts poor people get all upset if it's criticized and people want to ignore it. Especially if it has a 'nice' theme. Can't have it both ways. Oh and speaking about artists selling art to make a living. Don't give me that nonsense haha. That's garbage especially when many other artists get flack for their print prices. Yet it's okay for banksy to sell prints to the uber rich. Forget actual fans of his. Banksy isn't selling 40$ prints to make ends meet and continue his passion on painting on walls. Ironically it seems you are defending him for basically being everything he despised early on. An artist making a living. Now that's hilarious. He gave the art (his art included) to the local community. He has made his name and money a long time before this hotel project. Selling his art today to the uber rich, thats life. Going from selling his prints for fifty quid at the beginning to fifty thousand makes no difference to me or if he drives a Bentley turbo tortoise with a big spoiler on the back and spray cans exhausts. People had their chance to buy at low prices and why did many consider them less desirable to own then than now is not down to Banksy. It's down to the individuals who buy now at high prices and who would never have bought at low prices. The very wealthy like to be seen shopping and like to buy what other wealthy people buy. There is nothing to criticise in reality with the Walled Off Hotel and the reason for doing it. There are times when having a lot of money to hand enables good projects like this one. The media takes notice. The wealthy take notice and the young take notice.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Dahmer on Mar 19, 2017 21:40:57 GMT 1, a guy i used to buy weed off about 10 years ago showed me banksy...
prints on ebay were out of my budget then, and theyre out of my budget now....
meh. gonna go drink some cans and wait for this to all blow over.
a guy i used to buy weed off about 10 years ago showed me banksy...
prints on ebay were out of my budget then, and theyre out of my budget now....
meh. gonna go drink some cans and wait for this to all blow over.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 19, 2017 22:11:14 GMT 1, Is he an artist or social justice warrior first? When his arts great everyone wants to talk about that and how great an artist he is. When his arts poor people get all upset if it's criticized and people want to ignore it. Especially if it has a 'nice' theme. Can't have it both ways. Oh and speaking about artists selling art to make a living. Don't give me that nonsense haha. That's garbage especially when many other artists get flack for their print prices. Yet it's okay for banksy to sell prints to the uber rich. Forget actual fans of his. Banksy isn't selling 40$ prints to make ends meet and continue his passion on painting on walls. Ironically it seems you are defending him for basically being everything he despised early on. An artist making a living. Now that's hilarious. He gave the art (his art included) to the local community. He has made his name and money a long time before this hotel project. Selling his art today to the uber rich, thats life. Going from selling his prints for fifty quid at the beginning to fifty thousand makes no difference to me or if he drives a Bentley turbo tortoise with a big spoiler on the back and spray cans exhausts. People had their chance to buy at low prices and why did many consider them less desirable to own then than now is not down to Banksy. It's down to the individuals who buy now at high prices and who would never have bought at low prices. The very wealthy like to be seen shopping and like to buy what other wealthy people buy. There is nothing to criticise in reality with the Walled Off Hotel and the reason for doing it. There are times when having a lot of money to hand enables good projects like this one. The media takes notice. The wealthy take notice and the young take notice.
So when the hotels closes that art is staying in the community? Is it going to be a museum?
Is he an artist or social justice warrior first? When his arts great everyone wants to talk about that and how great an artist he is. When his arts poor people get all upset if it's criticized and people want to ignore it. Especially if it has a 'nice' theme. Can't have it both ways. Oh and speaking about artists selling art to make a living. Don't give me that nonsense haha. That's garbage especially when many other artists get flack for their print prices. Yet it's okay for banksy to sell prints to the uber rich. Forget actual fans of his. Banksy isn't selling 40$ prints to make ends meet and continue his passion on painting on walls. Ironically it seems you are defending him for basically being everything he despised early on. An artist making a living. Now that's hilarious. He gave the art (his art included) to the local community. He has made his name and money a long time before this hotel project. Selling his art today to the uber rich, thats life. Going from selling his prints for fifty quid at the beginning to fifty thousand makes no difference to me or if he drives a Bentley turbo tortoise with a big spoiler on the back and spray cans exhausts. People had their chance to buy at low prices and why did many consider them less desirable to own then than now is not down to Banksy. It's down to the individuals who buy now at high prices and who would never have bought at low prices. The very wealthy like to be seen shopping and like to buy what other wealthy people buy. There is nothing to criticise in reality with the Walled Off Hotel and the reason for doing it. There are times when having a lot of money to hand enables good projects like this one. The media takes notice. The wealthy take notice and the young take notice. So when the hotels closes that art is staying in the community? Is it going to be a museum?
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by ecomwizard on Mar 19, 2017 23:01:30 GMT 1, It's March 20th! Is there a flippers line outside of the hotel?
It's March 20th! Is there a flippers line outside of the hotel?
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Happy Shopper on Mar 19, 2017 23:06:53 GMT 1, It's March 20th! Is there a flippers line outside of the hotel? I'll be F5ing throughout the night and keeping a running commentary of my frustration here...
It's March 20th! Is there a flippers line outside of the hotel? I'll be F5ing throughout the night and keeping a running commentary of my frustration here...
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by .dappy on Mar 19, 2017 23:18:13 GMT 1, ... you are a person who always asks open questions in your replies, to keep a pretence of your own importance in the hope that someone will take the bait to respond ... or you just pick up an odd post and respond to that yourself ... so that you can continue your never ending 'discussion' ...
... you are a person who always asks open questions in your replies, to keep a pretence of your own importance in the hope that someone will take the bait to respond ... or you just pick up an odd post and respond to that yourself ... so that you can continue your never ending 'discussion' ...
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Damien on Mar 19, 2017 23:23:49 GMT 1, What's the time in Bethlehem?
What's the time in Bethlehem?
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by Rouen Cathedral on Mar 19, 2017 23:24:23 GMT 1, ... you are a person who always asks open questions in your replies, to keep a pretence of your own importance in the hope that someone will take the bait to respond ... or you just pick up an odd post and respond to that yourself ... so that you can continue your never ending 'discussion' ...
Honestly people keep saying the art is for the community. I want to know if that's true? Is it?....
If so that would be awesome.
... you are a person who always asks open questions in your replies, to keep a pretence of your own importance in the hope that someone will take the bait to respond ... or you just pick up an odd post and respond to that yourself ... so that you can continue your never ending 'discussion' ... Honestly people keep saying the art is for the community. I want to know if that's true? Is it?.... If so that would be awesome.
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Banksy - The Walled Off Hotel ★★★, by nex on Mar 19, 2017 23:43:19 GMT 1,
You and harrington can talk to each other and the rest of us can leave you to it
You and harrington can talk to each other and the rest of us can leave you to it
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