sircoxson
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Pejac • Linea Print, by sircoxson on Mar 11, 2017 20:45:59 GMT 1, Linea is also great in my view. It was not my intention to sell it, but genuine personal reasons are forcing my hand in one way or another. It is also a very long print, while this is a nice thing generally, it does also add to the cost of framing. I can't help thinking that people like the poster above don't have children so are not aware of the costs involved and how sometimes their needs have to come before collecting artwork. I am a real collector or 'genuine' fan if you like, and Pejac and his team, who also have young children among them know that. So anyway, I've wrestled enough with myself over whether to sell this, and I've decided to pull resources together from elsewhere. I'm keeping it ... every cloud and all that.
sorry mate to disturb your thread. my opinion was not directed to you but on the whole linea mess on here in general...
Linea is also great in my view. It was not my intention to sell it, but genuine personal reasons are forcing my hand in one way or another. It is also a very long print, while this is a nice thing generally, it does also add to the cost of framing. I can't help thinking that people like the poster above don't have children so are not aware of the costs involved and how sometimes their needs have to come before collecting artwork. I am a real collector or 'genuine' fan if you like, and Pejac and his team, who also have young children among them know that. So anyway, I've wrestled enough with myself over whether to sell this, and I've decided to pull resources together from elsewhere. I'm keeping it ... every cloud and all that. sorry mate to disturb your thread. my opinion was not directed to you but on the whole linea mess on here in general...
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highflyer
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Pejac • Linea Print, by highflyer on Mar 11, 2017 21:13:35 GMT 1, How does cutting the edition size make sure it lands in collectors hands? All of his prints have been sold on the secondary market, but with a larger edition it seems as if a lot more are being sold. Raising the price and putting more money in the artists pocket is one thing, but cutting the edition will only make it harder for people to secure a print. max could allocate to the collectors first, then open sale of the remaining prints for the flippers... as I said, how often is sepukku offered for sale on here? slim to none because the collectors and real fans keep it.
That would help solve one issue but would stop new collectors that are fans (like me) getting his hands on any new prints. So possibly not in the artists interest in the long run.
How to solve a problem like flipping!?
How does cutting the edition size make sure it lands in collectors hands? All of his prints have been sold on the secondary market, but with a larger edition it seems as if a lot more are being sold. Raising the price and putting more money in the artists pocket is one thing, but cutting the edition will only make it harder for people to secure a print. max could allocate to the collectors first, then open sale of the remaining prints for the flippers... as I said, how often is sepukku offered for sale on here? slim to none because the collectors and real fans keep it. That would help solve one issue but would stop new collectors that are fans (like me) getting his hands on any new prints. So possibly not in the artists interest in the long run. How to solve a problem like flipping!?
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Zanda
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Zanda on Mar 11, 2017 21:20:27 GMT 1, I don't see it so much as a mess. There was opportunity to purchase Linea on the secondary market at more digestible prices earlier on, as was pointed many times in this thread. I agree it does seem to be the most commonly resold of his prints, and that might have something to do with the fact it is a lenticular print. Had it been screen printed the market might have behaved in a more similar way to the others. But I personally like the fact it is lenticular, the idea of the trees being cut as you walk past justifies the process in my view, it wasn't an arbitrary reason to make it that way but an imaginative one. I'm relieved to be able to keep it. I think people who want one, won't be disappointed if they get one at current prices. The quality is good and is an unusual artwork in many ways.
I don't see it so much as a mess. There was opportunity to purchase Linea on the secondary market at more digestible prices earlier on, as was pointed many times in this thread. I agree it does seem to be the most commonly resold of his prints, and that might have something to do with the fact it is a lenticular print. Had it been screen printed the market might have behaved in a more similar way to the others. But I personally like the fact it is lenticular, the idea of the trees being cut as you walk past justifies the process in my view, it wasn't an arbitrary reason to make it that way but an imaginative one. I'm relieved to be able to keep it. I think people who want one, won't be disappointed if they get one at current prices. The quality is good and is an unusual artwork in many ways.
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case
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Pejac • Linea Print, by case on Mar 11, 2017 22:29:15 GMT 1, How to solve a problem like flipping!? Maybe higher prices, unlimited / timed editions? Would love that.
How to solve a problem like flipping!? Maybe higher prices, unlimited / timed editions? Would love that.
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Zanda
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Zanda on Mar 13, 2017 0:53:51 GMT 1, are you sure case because aren't you the person who has had the most notorious long search for a 'Meadow' because you weren't prepared to pay over £500 (flipper prices) at the time, and the value just went further out of reach with each consecutive sale. So for someone so unwilling to foot the little extra amount required, do you not see the contradiction in being an advocate of higher prices.
are you sure case because aren't you the person who has had the most notorious long search for a 'Meadow' because you weren't prepared to pay over £500 (flipper prices) at the time, and the value just went further out of reach with each consecutive sale. So for someone so unwilling to foot the little extra amount required, do you not see the contradiction in being an advocate of higher prices.
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samuelkl
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Pejac • Linea Print, by samuelkl on Mar 13, 2017 7:39:17 GMT 1, What a good read. If anything, we get a good glimpse of the forces currently at work in this forum. Lots of time wasters arguing price and value on art based on graphs and data points which might not even be accurate. Art is subjective, therefore price can be fluid. Sometimes the seller perceives the work as more valuable and this might not align with the buyer. Buyer just needs to learn to shut up and move on...
What a good read. If anything, we get a good glimpse of the forces currently at work in this forum. Lots of time wasters arguing price and value on art based on graphs and data points which might not even be accurate. Art is subjective, therefore price can be fluid. Sometimes the seller perceives the work as more valuable and this might not align with the buyer. Buyer just needs to learn to shut up and move on...
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highflyer
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Pejac • Linea Print, by highflyer on Mar 13, 2017 12:08:37 GMT 1, What a good read. If anything, we get a good glimpse of the forces currently at work in this forum. Lots of time wasters arguing price and value on art based on graphs and data points which might not even be accurate. Art is subjective, therefore price can be fluid. Sometimes the seller perceives the work as more valuable and this might not align with the buyer. Buyer just needs to learn to shut up and move on...
I think people wallowing in sanctimony should shut up and move on.
Can't believe you are saying how disappointing the thread is...thereby continuing the thread...thereby putting it at the top of the new post list.
People on this forum understand how prices work and that art is subjective. It's only worth what someone will pay for it. WE GET IT. We've heard it a million times.
If I was buying a piece of art on here. And I wasn't aware they were much cheaper elsewhere. I would be very grateful to members who posted that fact IF a seller was trying his luck for more than market.
What a good read. If anything, we get a good glimpse of the forces currently at work in this forum. Lots of time wasters arguing price and value on art based on graphs and data points which might not even be accurate. Art is subjective, therefore price can be fluid. Sometimes the seller perceives the work as more valuable and this might not align with the buyer. Buyer just needs to learn to shut up and move on... I think people wallowing in sanctimony should shut up and move on. Can't believe you are saying how disappointing the thread is...thereby continuing the thread...thereby putting it at the top of the new post list. People on this forum understand how prices work and that art is subjective. It's only worth what someone will pay for it. WE GET IT. We've heard it a million times. If I was buying a piece of art on here. And I wasn't aware they were much cheaper elsewhere. I would be very grateful to members who posted that fact IF a seller was trying his luck for more than market.
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Pejac • Linea Print, by 11 on Mar 13, 2017 13:25:15 GMT 1, You still banging on. Remind me. Where can this be bought cheaper? Seems all you did was recall past sales to suit your argument
Keep patting yourself on the back
You still banging on. Remind me. Where can this be bought cheaper? Seems all you did was recall past sales to suit your argument
Keep patting yourself on the back
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.dappy
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Pejac • Linea Print, by .dappy on Mar 13, 2017 13:27:08 GMT 1, ... another cup of tea and a biscuit is needed ... me thinks
... another cup of tea and a biscuit is needed ... me thinks
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highflyer
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Pejac • Linea Print, by highflyer on Mar 13, 2017 14:53:25 GMT 1, Just having a tea.
I didn't argue...I stated facts.
Jeepers
If i can find you one for more than £200 cheaper, will you pay me the difference?? :-)
Just having a tea.
I didn't argue...I stated facts.
Jeepers
If i can find you one for more than £200 cheaper, will you pay me the difference?? :-)
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Flashback
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Flashback on Apr 24, 2017 15:17:37 GMT 1, How does cutting the edition size make sure it lands in collectors hands? All of his prints have been sold on the secondary market, but with a larger edition it seems as if a lot more are being sold. Raising the price and putting more money in the artists pocket is one thing, but cutting the edition will only make it harder for people to secure a print. max could allocate to the collectors first, then open sale of the remaining prints for the flippers... as I said, how often is sepukku offered for sale on here? slim to none because the collectors and real fans keep it. Sorry to open this messy thread back up but thought you made a good point.
The real collectors and fans ARE keeping them.
Max could offer the new print to those first with photo or video dated proof (e.g. include that days local newspaper or a word of Max's choosing in the image) before they can purchase, to show they still have the last print for at least a year or 2 in order for them to be able to buy the new one...if they like the image that is.
Anyone who doesn't still have the previous one misses out on the presale option for that print and has to try his or her luck with the rest of the people trying on release day.
If they want to sell the print at a later date (people do occasionally change their mind on an image) then in order to keep their place in the presale then they have to give Max first option on passing the print on to a fan of his choosing at cost price + true shipping cost.
If this happened then a lot of the prints might be getting in the right hands without people having to overpay.
Max should be remunerated for the hassle obviously:)
How does cutting the edition size make sure it lands in collectors hands? All of his prints have been sold on the secondary market, but with a larger edition it seems as if a lot more are being sold. Raising the price and putting more money in the artists pocket is one thing, but cutting the edition will only make it harder for people to secure a print. max could allocate to the collectors first, then open sale of the remaining prints for the flippers... as I said, how often is sepukku offered for sale on here? slim to none because the collectors and real fans keep it. Sorry to open this messy thread back up but thought you made a good point. The real collectors and fans ARE keeping them. Max could offer the new print to those first with photo or video dated proof (e.g. include that days local newspaper or a word of Max's choosing in the image) before they can purchase, to show they still have the last print for at least a year or 2 in order for them to be able to buy the new one...if they like the image that is. Anyone who doesn't still have the previous one misses out on the presale option for that print and has to try his or her luck with the rest of the people trying on release day. If they want to sell the print at a later date (people do occasionally change their mind on an image) then in order to keep their place in the presale then they have to give Max first option on passing the print on to a fan of his choosing at cost price + true shipping cost. If this happened then a lot of the prints might be getting in the right hands without people having to overpay. Max should be remunerated for the hassle obviously:)
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Slip
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Slip on Apr 25, 2017 21:13:50 GMT 1, I'll pay 650 is it still available?
I'll pay 650 is it still available?
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Pejac • Linea Print, by simonsion on Jul 27, 2017 16:45:53 GMT 1, Pejac linea .. £1350 cash , still in tube . London meet up .
Pejac linea .. £1350 cash , still in tube . London meet up .
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Pejac • Linea Print, by simonsion on Jul 27, 2017 17:36:55 GMT 1, Now sold .. thanks for the interest
Now sold .. thanks for the interest
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londonfx
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Pejac • Linea Print, by londonfx on Jul 27, 2017 17:49:37 GMT 1, That's was quick
That's was quick
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docean
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Pejac • Linea Print, by docean on Jul 27, 2017 17:54:02 GMT 1, Wow 44 minutes lol
Wow 44 minutes lol
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soam24
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Pejac • Linea Print, by soam24 on Jul 27, 2017 18:12:43 GMT 1, Someone just got a steal of a deal given the recent sales.
Someone just got a steal of a deal given the recent sales.
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chads007
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Pejac • Linea Print, by chads007 on Jul 27, 2017 18:18:52 GMT 1, Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus
Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus
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Catman 74
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Catman 74 on Jul 27, 2017 18:18:57 GMT 1, True!
True!
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 18:20:39 GMT 1, Correct selling price, correct buying price. Such an underrated print. Looks gorgeous framed up
Correct selling price, correct buying price. Such an underrated print. Looks gorgeous framed up
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touchdowntodd
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Pejac • Linea Print, by touchdowntodd on Jul 27, 2017 18:21:23 GMT 1, Still need one. .
Well sold, we'll bought
Still need one. .
Well sold, we'll bought
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Rouen Cathedral on Jul 27, 2017 18:47:06 GMT 1, Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus
Yeah these were like $800 two months ago when I was looking.
Hype sure is building around pejac. I was semi interested when they were around $800. Now it's way out of my range.
Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus Yeah these were like $800 two months ago when I was looking. Hype sure is building around pejac. I was semi interested when they were around $800. Now it's way out of my range.
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Pejac • Linea Print, by lukehiggy on Jul 27, 2017 18:56:39 GMT 1, Yeah I picked one up last year for 600£ thought I'd payed to much. Does look great framed though.
Yeah I picked one up last year for 600£ thought I'd payed to much. Does look great framed though.
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RoboJ
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Pejac • Linea Print, by RoboJ on Jul 27, 2017 19:01:19 GMT 1, I turned down one about a month ago for £750 ha hindsight hey...
I turned down one about a month ago for £750 ha hindsight hey...
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Pejac • Linea Print, by mla on Jul 27, 2017 19:13:39 GMT 1, You'd have to pay me to hang one.
You'd have to pay me to hang one.
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Deleted on Jul 27, 2017 19:14:11 GMT 1, Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus Yeah these were like $800 two months ago when I was looking. Hype sure is building around pejac. I was semi interested when they were around $800. Now it's way out of my range.
Paid 670 for an AP on eBay 3 months and there must have 7 for sale.. people didn't like the lenticular but it's a great print
Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus Yeah these were like $800 two months ago when I was looking. Hype sure is building around pejac. I was semi interested when they were around $800. Now it's way out of my range. Paid 670 for an AP on eBay 3 months and there must have 7 for sale.. people didn't like the lenticular but it's a great print
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soam24
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Pejac • Linea Print, by soam24 on Jul 27, 2017 19:15:38 GMT 1, Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus
3 days ago on ebay for $2105 Two weeks ago on ebay for $2100 June 6th for $1815 as well
IMO buyer got a good deal but as long as everyone's happy that's all that matters.
Seems fair deal..last was a shilled eBay sale was 1600, 850 before that, and various sat at 2k plus
3 days ago on ebay for $2105 Two weeks ago on ebay for $2100 June 6th for $1815 as well
IMO buyer got a good deal but as long as everyone's happy that's all that matters.
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Dive Jedi
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Dive Jedi on Jul 27, 2017 19:42:11 GMT 1, Wow....
Is it better to keep this stored in the tube rather then flat ?
On the wall would be best, of course. But while storing?
Wow....
Is it better to keep this stored in the tube rather then flat ?
On the wall would be best, of course. But while storing?
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Pejac • Linea Print, by Schrödinger's Chat on Jul 27, 2017 22:09:15 GMT 1, Wow.... Is it better to keep this stored in the tube rather then flat ? On the wall would be best, of course. But while storing?
I reckon less of an issue with these lenticular prints than a paper print. They were quite heavy and essentially made of plastic, and when removed from the tube flattened very easily, I think it would still be the case if removed from the tube now.
Wow.... Is it better to keep this stored in the tube rather then flat ? On the wall would be best, of course. But while storing? I reckon less of an issue with these lenticular prints than a paper print. They were quite heavy and essentially made of plastic, and when removed from the tube flattened very easily, I think it would still be the case if removed from the tube now.
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highflyer
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Pejac • Linea Print, by highflyer on Jul 27, 2017 22:31:44 GMT 1, Correct selling price, correct buying price. Such an underrated print. Looks gorgeous framed up
Russell! I hate to pull you up on this. But if the selling price was correct (in your opinion) and the buying price was correct (in your opinion), would that not make it neither under nor overrated?
Correct selling price, correct buying price. Such an underrated print. Looks gorgeous framed up Russell! I hate to pull you up on this. But if the selling price was correct (in your opinion) and the buying price was correct (in your opinion), would that not make it neither under nor overrated?
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