wisky
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Manchester Explosion, by wisky on May 23, 2017 12:23:28 GMT 1, This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! Your child thinks how you think because he is 9.
This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! Your child thinks how you think because he is 9. You are clearly a foolish imbecile. This is the wrong time and place for sarcasm. |
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milo99
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Manchester Explosion, by milo99 on May 23, 2017 12:25:34 GMT 1, Your child thinks how you think because he is 9. You are clearly a foolish imbecile.ย This is the wrong time and place for sarcasm.
Its not sarcasm, kids think how you think.Isn't it obvious? My 7 year old believes and agrees with everything I say also
Your child thinks how you think because he is 9. You are clearly a foolish imbecile.ย This is the wrong time and place for sarcasm. Its not sarcasm, kids think how you think.Isn't it obvious? My 7 year old believes and agrees with everything I say also |
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Manchester Explosion, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on May 23, 2017 13:10:00 GMT 1, It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more.
I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to.
It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more.
I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to.
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urbart
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Manchester Explosion, by urbart on May 23, 2017 13:15:50 GMT 1, This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! You don't compare atrocities but you are quick to judge and blame. I wonder where did I say I agree with what is going on ? Putting words in my mouth ! I am telling you to put things in perspective, your government is currently bombing children in Yemenchester and killed with your fellow american almost half a million civilians, you may see this as comparing atrocities of this world and think it is utterly disgusting. I think it is a very pragmatic and much needed. Whatever you think, I am fine with that... as long as you don't forget historical fact and acknowledge your gvt has made with mess, I am fine with that ! Did you stand up against war in Iraq ? Has your parents stood up against British Empire colonisation ? Did you walk in street for a No vote at Brexit ? Have you signed petition against sell of UK weapons ? No, you don't have to justify yourself but I enjoyed the little family story though. Nice to hear their is love behind your statement calling for murderers and that your kids enjoy multiculturalism which is indeed great. Sadly, multiculturalism which to emphasize and embrace differences in different communities (different than melting-pot) is not possible without introspection, acceptance of facts and background and subsequently loss of privileges... and loss of privilege is exactly what UK voted against with Brexit. As my little one once said, there are three bad people in the world, Trump, Lepen and UK, pretty funny  Yes, I have kids too, they are in a school with 47 nationalities... I am amazed by all the things they know: they speak more languages than me, they know all Arabic and African countries and their capital cities, they even know their national meal, they can tell by the name and the look if the kid is a Senegalese or Nigerian. Sadly, we have been confronted to terrorism many times, simply because we are in a terror hotbed. Their school is protected by anti-grenade nets and they have one confinement exercise every three months with fake gunshot, smoke... Being a minority where I live, segregation is there, so yeah sadly I had to explain numerous times to my kids why Caucasian are seen as bad people and not as white as they are taught in school. And guess what, where we live, there was lot of racial segregation because the all Apartheid ideology implemented by British and Dutch colonists in South Africa was also implemented here for about 10 years by the British colons and thousands of people were killed and deported during the fights for freedom. Now, they understand why they get bullied outside in street. Having open-mind is indeed important but another important thing is introspection, people need introspection to be able aware of background, followed by a synergetic articulation and better acceptance of differences and appreciation for other culture, etc. This is why we need to tell our kids about the past and reality of things, yes people from developing countries are greedy, selfish, bad and warmongers (are you going to deny that UK is warmonger country and population governed by fear and false info ?). Read what you are saying again, you said that Muslim leaders must stand up against terrorism otherwise they are compliant in silence, if not murderers.... Hmmmm... And yes, govt have the responsibility to lead by example, this is exactly what I am saying, our governments are responsible for this mess. You said "silence implied you are murderers", I was trying to understand your statement here and transposing it in another context, check UK history and tell me how many times your leaders and population weren't silent. From British colonial empire to Iraq invasion... Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother So yes, I am part of which problem now ?? Ahahaha ! Funny how I tried to explain myself in fair open way and finally get accused of being part of the problem ! You know what next time, I won't even bother, I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion. Peace ! Again, very sad for the victims.
Once again, condolences to all of the victims and those affected by this "vile", "cowardly" attack.
This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! You don't compare atrocities but you are quick to judge and blame. I wonder where did I say I agree with what is going on ? Putting words in my mouth ! I am telling you to put things in perspective, your government is currently bombing children in Yemenchester and killed with your fellow american almost half a million civilians, you may see this as comparing atrocities of this world and think it is utterly disgusting. I think it is a very pragmatic and much needed. Whatever you think, I am fine with that... as long as you don't forget historical fact and acknowledge your gvt has made with mess, I am fine with that ! Did you stand up against war in Iraq ? Has your parents stood up against British Empire colonisation ? Did you walk in street for a No vote at Brexit ? Have you signed petition against sell of UK weapons ? No, you don't have to justify yourself but I enjoyed the little family story though. Nice to hear their is love behind your statement calling for murderers and that your kids enjoy multiculturalism which is indeed great. Sadly, multiculturalism which to emphasize and embrace differences in different communities (different than melting-pot) is not possible without introspection, acceptance of facts and background and subsequently loss of privileges... and loss of privilege is exactly what UK voted against with Brexit. As my little one once said, there are three bad people in the world, Trump, Lepen and UK, pretty funny Yes, I have kids too, they are in a school with 47 nationalities... I am amazed by all the things they know: they speak more languages than me, they know all Arabic and African countries and their capital cities, they even know their national meal, they can tell by the name and the look if the kid is a Senegalese or Nigerian. Sadly, we have been confronted to terrorism many times, simply because we are in a terror hotbed. Their school is protected by anti-grenade nets and they have one confinement exercise every three months with fake gunshot, smoke... Being a minority where I live, segregation is there, so yeah sadly I had to explain numerous times to my kids why Caucasian are seen as bad people and not as white as they are taught in school. And guess what, where we live, there was lot of racial segregation because the all Apartheid ideology implemented by British and Dutch colonists in South Africa was also implemented here for about 10 years by the British colons and thousands of people were killed and deported during the fights for freedom. Now, they understand why they get bullied outside in street. Having open-mind is indeed important but another important thing is introspection, people need introspection to be able aware of background, followed by a synergetic articulation and better acceptance of differences and appreciation for other culture, etc. This is why we need to tell our kids about the past and reality of things, yes people from developing countries are greedy, selfish, bad and warmongers (are you going to deny that UK is warmonger country and population governed by fear and false info ?). Read what you are saying again, you said that Muslim leaders must stand up against terrorism otherwise they are compliant in silence, if not murderers.... Hmmmm... And yes, govt have the responsibility to lead by example, this is exactly what I am saying, our governments are responsible for this mess. You said "silence implied you are murderers", I was trying to understand your statement here and transposing it in another context, check UK history and tell me how many times your leaders and population weren't silent. From British colonial empire to Iraq invasion... Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother So yes, I am part of which problem now ?? Ahahaha ! Funny how I tried to explain myself in fair open way and finally get accused of being part of the problem ! You know what next time, I won't even bother, I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion. Peace ! Again, very sad for the victims. , by using the words "coward", "absolutely vile", "scum" and "lowest of the low" in your post, I assume that you were quoting from my earlier post. Please note that these words were aimed at the subhuman perpetrator of this despicable atrocity and not at wisky. Therefore, I would appreciate if you did not quote me/my words out of context. Once again, condolences to all of the victims and those affected by this "vile", "cowardly" attack. |
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milo99
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Manchester Explosion, by milo99 on May 23, 2017 13:23:09 GMT 1, Its not sarcasm, kids think how you think.Isn't it obvious? My 7 year old believes and agrees with everything I say also , I thought exactly the same... but I knew similar remark wouldn't be very appropriate here... but yeah, kids usually believe and agree on lot of things that parents are saying. ย I agree with that !! ย So, to sum up, Wisky's kids think Milo99's kid is an imbecile ย This is actually sarcasm to emphasize the ridicule, Milo99's post was not. ย As for "imbecile", it is basic dysphemism.ย
My kids fluent in polish and english now, not bad for 7 and doesn't always agree with me ๐ but mostly. I hope the terrorist isn't named also
Its not sarcasm, kids think how you think.Isn't it obvious? My 7 year old believes and agrees with everything I say also , I thought exactly the same... but I knew similar remark wouldn't be very appropriate here... but yeah, kids usually believe and agree on lot of things that parents are saying. ย I agree with that !! ย So, to sum up, Wisky's kids think Milo99's kid is an imbecile ย This is actually sarcasm to emphasize the ridicule, Milo99's post was not. ย As for "imbecile", it is basic dysphemism.ย My kids fluent in polish and english now, not bad for 7 and doesn't always agree with me ๐ but mostly. I hope the terrorist isn't named also |
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Manchester Explosion, by Pysgod on May 23, 2017 13:25:55 GMT 1,
While the police are collecting body parts of British children spread around the Manchester arena, it is reported that the British public are determined to carry on with "business as usual."
This Business As Usual, is an admirable attitude that helped the British people survive the Nazi Blitz during WWII.
But this is not the Blitz.
Because during the Blitz, the British were not afraid to say who their enemy was. Having identified their enemy, they fought their enemy and defeated their enemy. They didn't just express their horror, or send their thoughts, or say a prayer, or light a candle, or hold a vigil.
Actually it is Business As Usual, because Business As Usual is the unwillingness to challenge the Islamic political ideology that infests British school curriculums, infects British media and is rampant in so-called โcharities" that channels donations to fund terrorism. This Business As Usual is also preached in sermons in British mosques and can be heard in city parks. Business As Usual, spews out hate against Jews and Christians, Business As Usual vilifies Zionists, Business As Usual marches on English cobbled streets and demands the implementation of Sharia Law. Business As Usual ensures that British Jewish schools, British Jewish institutions and British synagogues, need protection night and day.
From personal experience, I can say that after a terror attack life is NOT Business As Usual. And it never can be Business As Usual, because murder is the most cosmic and irreparable violation known to both man and mankind. Murder steals from families and plunders the unborn generations. Murder grieves friends. Murder rips out souls from communities. Murder wounds a nation and murder irreparably damages our world.
Business As Usual is the familiar scenes of personal, emotional and collective carnage. This is how things will be until the people decide that they are not prepared to tolerate this Business As Usual. No longer will they be prepared to deny the reality. No longer will they refrain from rooting out this evil. And no longer in the name of free speech, will they allow the vilification, or the arrest of, those who speak out against it.
But until they do that, Business As Usual will be an ever-familiar sight of British policemen and ambulance men, scraping parts of children off the walls of the likes of a cultural arena.
From Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
While the police are collecting body parts of British children spread around the Manchester arena, it is reported that the British public are determined to carry on with "business as usual."
This Business As Usual, is an admirable attitude that helped the British people survive the Nazi Blitz during WWII.
But this is not the Blitz.
Because during the Blitz, the British were not afraid to say who their enemy was. Having identified their enemy, they fought their enemy and defeated their enemy. They didn't just express their horror, or send their thoughts, or say a prayer, or light a candle, or hold a vigil.
Actually it is Business As Usual, because Business As Usual is the unwillingness to challenge the Islamic political ideology that infests British school curriculums, infects British media and is rampant in so-called โcharities" that channels donations to fund terrorism. This Business As Usual is also preached in sermons in British mosques and can be heard in city parks. Business As Usual, spews out hate against Jews and Christians, Business As Usual vilifies Zionists, Business As Usual marches on English cobbled streets and demands the implementation of Sharia Law. Business As Usual ensures that British Jewish schools, British Jewish institutions and British synagogues, need protection night and day.
From personal experience, I can say that after a terror attack life is NOT Business As Usual. And it never can be Business As Usual, because murder is the most cosmic and irreparable violation known to both man and mankind. Murder steals from families and plunders the unborn generations. Murder grieves friends. Murder rips out souls from communities. Murder wounds a nation and murder irreparably damages our world.
Business As Usual is the familiar scenes of personal, emotional and collective carnage. This is how things will be until the people decide that they are not prepared to tolerate this Business As Usual. No longer will they be prepared to deny the reality. No longer will they refrain from rooting out this evil. And no longer in the name of free speech, will they allow the vilification, or the arrest of, those who speak out against it.
But until they do that, Business As Usual will be an ever-familiar sight of British policemen and ambulance men, scraping parts of children off the walls of the likes of a cultural arena.
From Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
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wisky
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Manchester Explosion, by wisky on May 23, 2017 14:19:44 GMT 1, This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! You don't compare atrocities but you are quick to judge and blame. I wonder where did I say I agree with what is going on ? Putting words in my mouth ! I am telling you to put things in perspective, your government is currently bombing children in Yemenchester and killed with your fellow american almost half a million civilians, you may see this as comparing atrocities of this world and think it is utterly disgusting. I think it is a very pragmatic and much needed. Whatever you think, I am fine with that... as long as you don't forget historical fact and acknowledge your gvt has made with mess, I am fine with that ! Did you stand up against war in Iraq ? Has your parents stood up against British Empire colonisation ? Did you walk in street for a No vote at Brexit ? Have you signed petition against sell of UK weapons ? No, you don't have to justify yourself but I enjoyed the little family story though. Nice to hear their is love behind your statement calling for murderers and that your kids enjoy multiculturalism which is indeed great. Sadly, multiculturalism which to emphasize and embrace differences in different communities (different than melting-pot) is not possible without introspection, acceptance of facts and background and subsequently loss of privileges... and loss of privilege is exactly what UK voted against with Brexit. As my little one once said, there are three bad people in the world, Trump, Lepen and UK, pretty funny Yes, I have kids too, they are in a school with 47 nationalities... I am amazed by all the things they know: they speak more languages than me, they know all Arabic and African countries and their capital cities, they even know their national meal, they can tell by the name and the look if the kid is a Senegalese or Nigerian. Sadly, we have been confronted to terrorism many times, simply because we are in a terror hotbed. Their school is protected by anti-grenade nets and they have one confinement exercise every three months with fake gunshot, smoke... Being a minority where I live, segregation is there, so yeah sadly I had to explain numerous times to my kids why Caucasian are seen as bad people and not as white as they are taught in school. And guess what, where we live, there was lot of racial segregation because the all Apartheid ideology implemented by British and Dutch colonists in South Africa was also implemented here for about 10 years by the British colons and thousands of people were killed and deported during the fights for freedom. Now, they understand why they get bullied outside in street. Having open-mind is indeed important but another important thing is introspection, people need introspection to be able aware of background, followed by a synergetic articulation and better acceptance of differences and appreciation for other culture, etc. This is why we need to tell our kids about the past and reality of things, yes people from developing countries are greedy, selfish, bad and warmongers (are you going to deny that UK is warmonger country and population governed by fear and false info ?). Read what you are saying again, you said that Muslim leaders must stand up against terrorism otherwise they are compliant in silence, if not murderers.... Hmmmm... And yes, govt have the responsibility to lead by example, this is exactly what I am saying, our governments are responsible for this mess. You said "silence implied you are murderers", I was trying to understand your statement here and transposing it in another context, check UK history and tell me how many times your leaders and population weren't silent. From British colonial empire to Iraq invasion... Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother So yes, I am part of which problem now ?? Ahahaha ! Funny how I tried to explain myself in fair open way and finally get accused of being part of the problem ! You know what next time, I won't even bother, I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion. Peace ! Again, very sad for the victims.
Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother
Are you comparing childrens murders again? NO murders are acceptable in any part of the world...
I don't think that you get that, do you? Your hatred is palpable my friend.
I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion.
I am 100% certain that the above comments were aimed at the loser whom blew himself up at a concert full of innocent people, many of whom were children.
I will not lower myself to your standards, I will not attack a whole country or nation in a time of despair and I cannot believe that you have not been warned by forum guardians over your comments.
This is REALLY insincere and hurtful and this is exactly the mentality that I am talking about, do you not think that I or most British people feel pain, hurt or anger when we see these things happening across the world??? Get real! I can see clearly that you find it acceptable for radicalized extremists to kill and maim our children and your defence is that we should compare this to what is happening around the world.....? Unbelievably twisted views! The difference between me and you is that I DO dis-agree with what is happening around the world and find it disturbing and as such, I would never compare ANY atrocities. Surely they are ALL wrong! No? You are the one with one-sided views my friend! I do not need to justify myself to you, but for the benifit of the forum, I will tell you something. My 9 year old Son is in a football team in Brixton and has been for two years, there are ten boys, 7 are black, 2 are Algerian, 1 is white, (my son) 5 are also Muslim, I teach my son to listen to ALL sides and views and to make his own mind up on situations, he is a wise and balanced human being, he thinks how I think. I hope that if you have children, that you also show them that there are good and bad in all creeds and that segregation causes these problems and that governments and leaders DO have a responsibility to lead by example..... Your not listening are you? Leave me alone, YOU are part of the problem! You don't compare atrocities but you are quick to judge and blame. I wonder where did I say I agree with what is going on ? Putting words in my mouth ! I am telling you to put things in perspective, your government is currently bombing children in Yemenchester and killed with your fellow american almost half a million civilians, you may see this as comparing atrocities of this world and think it is utterly disgusting. I think it is a very pragmatic and much needed. Whatever you think, I am fine with that... as long as you don't forget historical fact and acknowledge your gvt has made with mess, I am fine with that ! Did you stand up against war in Iraq ? Has your parents stood up against British Empire colonisation ? Did you walk in street for a No vote at Brexit ? Have you signed petition against sell of UK weapons ? No, you don't have to justify yourself but I enjoyed the little family story though. Nice to hear their is love behind your statement calling for murderers and that your kids enjoy multiculturalism which is indeed great. Sadly, multiculturalism which to emphasize and embrace differences in different communities (different than melting-pot) is not possible without introspection, acceptance of facts and background and subsequently loss of privileges... and loss of privilege is exactly what UK voted against with Brexit. As my little one once said, there are three bad people in the world, Trump, Lepen and UK, pretty funny Yes, I have kids too, they are in a school with 47 nationalities... I am amazed by all the things they know: they speak more languages than me, they know all Arabic and African countries and their capital cities, they even know their national meal, they can tell by the name and the look if the kid is a Senegalese or Nigerian. Sadly, we have been confronted to terrorism many times, simply because we are in a terror hotbed. Their school is protected by anti-grenade nets and they have one confinement exercise every three months with fake gunshot, smoke... Being a minority where I live, segregation is there, so yeah sadly I had to explain numerous times to my kids why Caucasian are seen as bad people and not as white as they are taught in school. And guess what, where we live, there was lot of racial segregation because the all Apartheid ideology implemented by British and Dutch colonists in South Africa was also implemented here for about 10 years by the British colons and thousands of people were killed and deported during the fights for freedom. Now, they understand why they get bullied outside in street. Having open-mind is indeed important but another important thing is introspection, people need introspection to be able aware of background, followed by a synergetic articulation and better acceptance of differences and appreciation for other culture, etc. This is why we need to tell our kids about the past and reality of things, yes people from developing countries are greedy, selfish, bad and warmongers (are you going to deny that UK is warmonger country and population governed by fear and false info ?). Read what you are saying again, you said that Muslim leaders must stand up against terrorism otherwise they are compliant in silence, if not murderers.... Hmmmm... And yes, govt have the responsibility to lead by example, this is exactly what I am saying, our governments are responsible for this mess. You said "silence implied you are murderers", I was trying to understand your statement here and transposing it in another context, check UK history and tell me how many times your leaders and population weren't silent. From British colonial empire to Iraq invasion... Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother So yes, I am part of which problem now ?? Ahahaha ! Funny how I tried to explain myself in fair open way and finally get accused of being part of the problem ! You know what next time, I won't even bother, I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion. Peace ! Again, very sad for the victims. Wow...... Am I the only one who can feel the hatred in this post??? Please put things in perspective with this small assignment, you can even do it with your kids, take a sheet of paper and draw 50 dots, take another sheet of paper and draw 450,000 dots... pretty sure your kids raised their voice for having to draw 50 dots, pretty when you ask for 450,000 dots, they didn't even bother Are you comparing childrens murders again? NO murders are acceptable in any part of the world...
I don't think that you get that, do you? Your hatred is palpable my friend. I will do like the others, I will trash you with posts like you are a "pathetic" "coward", the "absolutely vile", a real "scum", "the lowest of the low" at you instead of even trying to engage with you with facts and opinion.I am 100% certain that the above comments were aimed at the loser whom blew himself up at a concert full of innocent people, many of whom were children. I will not lower myself to your standards, I will not attack a whole country or nation in a time of despair and I cannot believe that you have not been warned by forum guardians over your comments. |
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Manchester Explosion, by Dr Plip on May 23, 2017 14:22:10 GMT 1, Forgiveness is something internal, but it is a โclickโ that you either decide to do it or not. Itโs a qualitative leap. If you decide to forgive, you are the main beneficiary, because hate only hurts the person who feels it; the person you hate is not touched by your hate. Consequently, the person who forgives, forgives himself. We all have something we need to forgive ourselves for, and we are the ones who benefit.
[โฆ] itโs very difficult to love someone who doesnโt forgive or who has hate in his or her heart. And just as I like to love, I like to be loved. Hate is a wall that you build in your heart and that you have to tear down. Love is what drives everything.
- From Irene Villa, survivor of an ETA bomb attack.
Forgiveness is something internal, but it is a โclickโ that you either decide to do it or not. Itโs a qualitative leap. If you decide to forgive, you are the main beneficiary, because hate only hurts the person who feels it; the person you hate is not touched by your hate. Consequently, the person who forgives, forgives himself. We all have something we need to forgive ourselves for, and we are the ones who benefit.
[โฆ] itโs very difficult to love someone who doesnโt forgive or who has hate in his or her heart. And just as I like to love, I like to be loved. Hate is a wall that you build in your heart and that you have to tear down. Love is what drives everything.
- From Irene Villa, survivor of an ETA bomb attack.
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Manchester Explosion, by Deleted on May 23, 2017 14:30:36 GMT 1, Thanks to Dr Plip for the above post. Can we get this thread back to where it started before people questioned and judged others opinions. I'm know from my time on this forum that all members would never want to see this type of attack anywhere in the world.
Thanks to Dr Plip for the above post. Can we get this thread back to where it started before people questioned and judged others opinions. I'm know from my time on this forum that all members would never want to see this type of attack anywhere in the world.
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Manchester Explosion, by Dr Plip on May 23, 2017 14:37:10 GMT 1,
While the police are collecting body parts of British children spread around the Manchester arena, it is reported that the British public are determined to carry on with "business as usual."
This Business As Usual, is an admirable attitude that helped the British people survive the Nazi Blitz during WWII.
But this is not the Blitz.
Because during the Blitz, the British were not afraid to say who their enemy was. Having identified their enemy, they fought their enemy and defeated their enemy. They didn't just express their horror, or send their thoughts, or say a prayer, or light a candle, or hold a vigil.
Actually it is Business As Usual, because Business As Usual is the unwillingness to challenge the Islamic political ideology that infests British school curriculums, infects British media and is rampant in so-called โcharities" that channels donations to fund terrorism. This Business As Usual is also preached in sermons in British mosques and can be heard in city parks. Business As Usual, spews out hate against Jews and Christians, Business As Usual vilifies Zionists, Business As Usual marches on English cobbled streets and demands the implementation of Sharia Law. Business As Usual ensures that British Jewish schools, British Jewish institutions and British synagogues, need protection night and day.
From personal experience, I can say that after a terror attack life is NOT Business As Usual. And it never can be Business As Usual, because murder is the most cosmic and irreparable violation known to both man and mankind. Murder steals from families and plunders the unborn generations. Murder grieves friends. Murder rips out souls from communities. Murder wounds a nation and murder irreparably damages our world.
Business As Usual is the familiar scenes of personal, emotional and collective carnage. This is how things will be until the people decide that they are not prepared to tolerate this Business As Usual. No longer will they be prepared to deny the reality. No longer will they refrain from rooting out this evil. And no longer in the name of free speech, will they allow the vilification, or the arrest of, those who speak out against it.
But until they do that, Business As Usual will be an ever-familiar sight of British policemen and ambulance men, scraping parts of children off the walls of the likes of a cultural arena.
From Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
It is effortless for me to be bound again by a fear-based lie that every single Palestinian is a terrorist. To avoid shackling myself with these chains of prejudice I have to scrutinize any signs of contempt encroaching upon my soul. To steer clear of that thicket of hostility, I lunge towards freedom by nurturing the relationships with my Palestinian friends, and reject the manacles of vicarious blame that holds accountable the entire Palestinian people.
also from Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
While the police are collecting body parts of British children spread around the Manchester arena, it is reported that the British public are determined to carry on with "business as usual."
This Business As Usual, is an admirable attitude that helped the British people survive the Nazi Blitz during WWII.
But this is not the Blitz.
Because during the Blitz, the British were not afraid to say who their enemy was. Having identified their enemy, they fought their enemy and defeated their enemy. They didn't just express their horror, or send their thoughts, or say a prayer, or light a candle, or hold a vigil.
Actually it is Business As Usual, because Business As Usual is the unwillingness to challenge the Islamic political ideology that infests British school curriculums, infects British media and is rampant in so-called โcharities" that channels donations to fund terrorism. This Business As Usual is also preached in sermons in British mosques and can be heard in city parks. Business As Usual, spews out hate against Jews and Christians, Business As Usual vilifies Zionists, Business As Usual marches on English cobbled streets and demands the implementation of Sharia Law. Business As Usual ensures that British Jewish schools, British Jewish institutions and British synagogues, need protection night and day.
From personal experience, I can say that after a terror attack life is NOT Business As Usual. And it never can be Business As Usual, because murder is the most cosmic and irreparable violation known to both man and mankind. Murder steals from families and plunders the unborn generations. Murder grieves friends. Murder rips out souls from communities. Murder wounds a nation and murder irreparably damages our world.
Business As Usual is the familiar scenes of personal, emotional and collective carnage. This is how things will be until the people decide that they are not prepared to tolerate this Business As Usual. No longer will they be prepared to deny the reality. No longer will they refrain from rooting out this evil. And no longer in the name of free speech, will they allow the vilification, or the arrest of, those who speak out against it.
But until they do that, Business As Usual will be an ever-familiar sight of British policemen and ambulance men, scraping parts of children off the walls of the likes of a cultural arena.
From Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
It is effortless for me to be bound again by a fear-based lie that every single Palestinian is a terrorist. To avoid shackling myself with these chains of prejudice I have to scrutinize any signs of contempt encroaching upon my soul. To steer clear of that thicket of hostility, I lunge towards freedom by nurturing the relationships with my Palestinian friends, and reject the manacles of vicarious blame that holds accountable the entire Palestinian people.
also from Kay Wilson, the survivor of a brutal Palestinian machete attack.
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Manchester Explosion, by kaos on May 23, 2017 14:48:35 GMT 1, I have to say I am surprised and shocked to read some of the posts here in this thread. The emotional language being used in this thread it would appear that the attacker actually achieved his goal with some of you - to divide people to engender hate.
I have to say I am surprised and shocked to read some of the posts here in this thread. The emotional language being used in this thread it would appear that the attacker actually achieved his goal with some of you - to divide people to engender hate.
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Manchester Explosion, by Deleted on May 23, 2017 14:55:11 GMT 1, Absolutely f**king dispicable behaviour 22 dead 59 injured Just massively shocking The muslim leaders and people need to stand up publicly and condemn this..... But they won't, which MUST mean that they agree with it....?
Unfucking believable
Absolutely f**king dispicable behaviour 22 dead 59 injured Just massively shocking The muslim leaders and people need to stand up publicly and condemn this..... But they won't, which MUST mean that they agree with it....? Unfucking believable |
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Manchester Explosion, by RoboJ on May 23, 2017 15:57:31 GMT 1, I think everyone agrees this is a terrible event carried out by a person nobody here can relate too. whisky, I think bakshi is not justifying why this attack happened but is suggesting, as is the truth, that in the past events have unfolded which to the victims, would feel like the West have either brought about or not stepped in to help. Such as the Iraq War etc. I feel this terrorism stems from these events where the 'West' have become the villans and will do for the next generation to come. Its not justifying the attacks at all. It really is a sad day.
I think everyone agrees this is a terrible event carried out by a person nobody here can relate too. whisky, I think bakshi is not justifying why this attack happened but is suggesting, as is the truth, that in the past events have unfolded which to the victims, would feel like the West have either brought about or not stepped in to help. Such as the Iraq War etc. I feel this terrorism stems from these events where the 'West' have become the villans and will do for the next generation to come. Its not justifying the attacks at all. It really is a sad day. |
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Manchester Explosion, by Lroy on May 23, 2017 15:58:17 GMT 1, It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more. I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to.
most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars.
They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them !
But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates...
they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little twats with muscles or not. Shitty c**t. No respect for these people.
It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more. I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to. most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars. They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them ! But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates... they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little twats with muscles or not. Shitty c**t. No respect for these people. |
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Manchester Explosion, by jmd on May 23, 2017 16:07:32 GMT 1, What an awful world we live in. So many good people living amongst monsters. Such a cowardly act to target children. I only hope all involved in planning and doing this rot in hell. As a father I fear for my two boys as my job in life is to always protect them but there are certain things that can't be protected against. You can't even take your kids to a concert without the threat of death. Awful times we live in.
Thoughts and prayers to the families who were impacted by this tragedy.
What an awful world we live in. So many good people living amongst monsters. Such a cowardly act to target children. I only hope all involved in planning and doing this rot in hell. As a father I fear for my two boys as my job in life is to always protect them but there are certain things that can't be protected against. You can't even take your kids to a concert without the threat of death. Awful times we live in.
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Manchester Explosion, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on May 23, 2017 16:45:14 GMT 1, It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more. I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to. most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars. They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them ! But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates... they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little t**ts with muscles or not.s**tty c**t. No respect for these people.
Yes, let's stop calling them terrorists.
Call them cowards, wankers, lowlifes. As you say, to the rest of the f@cked up brainless these are like superheroes. Take that away and remove any identity of them. They're dead and no longer a threat to us, why show us their names and what they look like. Don't give them their 5 minutes.
It's so awful and targeting children just makes it that much sick. For once, I agree with Trump, these suicide bombers are 'losers' and nothing more. I wish the police and media wouldn't name these 'losers' or show pictures of them, there is no need to. most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars. They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them ! But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates... they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little t**ts with muscles or not.s**tty c**t. No respect for these people. Yes, let's stop calling them terrorists. Call them cowards, wankers, lowlifes. As you say, to the rest of the f@cked up brainless these are like superheroes. Take that away and remove any identity of them. They're dead and no longer a threat to us, why show us their names and what they look like. Don't give them their 5 minutes. |
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Manchester Explosion, by Lroy on May 23, 2017 17:16:21 GMT 1, most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars. They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them ! But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates... they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little t**ts with muscles or not.s**tty c**t. No respect for these people. Yes, let's stop calling them terrorists. Call them cowards, wankers, lowlifes. As you say, to the rest of the f@cked up brainless these are like superheroes. Take that away and remove any identity of them. They're dead and no longer a threat to us, why show us their names and what they look like. Don't give them their 5 minutes.
Media are really responsable of that too : they give them fame ! You know the guy who
Had made Batackan attack and that have been arrested : every day at a moment , they - the media - shown us his face, told us about the guy complained about food, to don't have internet , etc etc ..
As you say Sturban, no name, no face. If you remark Isis make the revendications only after one or two days. The manipulation is simple : let's youths killing people or police etc ... when ever they want : then They stamped the crime with " terrorism " and " Isis " .
most of the times, they - media and politics - present terrorist as in blockbusters movies ( secrecy, radicalism, hard training , strong hate and opinion, clever ( sic ) etc etc ) , why ? To make the opposent as a valable warrior or soldier ( sic again ) , that they fight usually in real wars. They want ( army, presidents ) an opponent at their height, and height worthy of the name, so that the police, the swat, or their armed troops should not be ridiculed, and have an adversary, worthy of the name, as in a war. The enemy must be up to them ! But in reality ( we saw that with Bataclan , Charlie , Paris attacks,nice, etc ... the supposed " kamikaze warriors , are ( as Merah ) in fact loosers, drug addicts, lost delinquents from the suburbs, youths very fragile psychologically, wankers, little wankers, big mouths, guys with a pea in the brain, with suicidal tendencies and hates... they are absolutely not bad and naughty super heroes, we have not to glorious them , nor to laid them martyrs, they are only little t**ts with muscles or not.s**tty c**t. No respect for these people. Yes, let's stop calling them terrorists. Call them cowards, wankers, lowlifes. As you say, to the rest of the f@cked up brainless these are like superheroes. Take that away and remove any identity of them. They're dead and no longer a threat to us, why show us their names and what they look like. Don't give them their 5 minutes. Media are really responsable of that too : they give them fame ! You know the guy who Had made Batackan attack and that have been arrested : every day at a moment , they - the media - shown us his face, told us about the guy complained about food, to don't have internet , etc etc .. As you say Sturban, no name, no face. If you remark Isis make the revendications only after one or two days. The manipulation is simple : let's youths killing people or police etc ... when ever they want : then They stamped the crime with " terrorism " and " Isis " . |
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Manchester Explosion, by Deleted on May 23, 2017 19:20:51 GMT 1, There is no justification for the murder of children in Manchester at the concert.
Platitudes from politicians are wearing thin too.
There is no justification for the murder of children in Manchester at the concert.
Platitudes from politicians are wearing thin too.
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Manchester Explosion, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on May 23, 2017 23:06:53 GMT 1, The thing that winds me up is after a terror attack like this, nearly every time the police know who the 'radicalised' suspect was/is? The west has gone too soft! if there is any sniff of them being radicalised/intent on killing or doing harm.. forget about freedom of speech and their rights etc. they should be locked up. You wouldn't see the Russians or Chinese putting up with it, you wouldn't even hear of them, they'd be locked up. Making the country a safer place. Need to go in also and stop these radical schools/teachers if they don't stop and continue their ways, lock them up also,end of...
I was reading in australias budget 2 weeks ago we pulled out $300m of foreign aid to train up a few hundred terrorist police. But what's the point if due to their rights you can only monitor them? Lock them up.
The thing that winds me up is after a terror attack like this, nearly every time the police know who the 'radicalised' suspect was/is? The west has gone too soft! if there is any sniff of them being radicalised/intent on killing or doing harm.. forget about freedom of speech and their rights etc. they should be locked up. You wouldn't see the Russians or Chinese putting up with it, you wouldn't even hear of them, they'd be locked up. Making the country a safer place. Need to go in also and stop these radical schools/teachers if they don't stop and continue their ways, lock them up also,end of...
I was reading in australias budget 2 weeks ago we pulled out $300m of foreign aid to train up a few hundred terrorist police. But what's the point if due to their rights you can only monitor them? Lock them up.
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Manchester Explosion, by milo99 on May 23, 2017 23:12:24 GMT 1, The thing that winds me up is after a terror attack like this, nearly every time the police know who the 'radicalised' suspect was/is? The west has gone too soft! if there is any sniff of them being radicalised/intent on killing or doing harm.. forget about freedom of speech and their rights etc. they should be locked up. You wouldn't see the Russians or Chinese putting up with it, you wouldn't even hear of them, they'd be locked up. Making the country a safer place. Need to go in also and stop these radical schools/teachers if they don't stop and continue their ways, lock them up also,end of... I was reading in australias budget 2 weeks ago we pulled out $300m of foreign aid to train up a few hundred terrorist police. But what's the point if due to their rights you can only monitor them? Lock them up.
Exactly, so they are saying that he was on the polices peripheral already. What do they mean by that I wonder, and what did they already know about him ๐. Things like that never seem to be questioned
The thing that winds me up is after a terror attack like this, nearly every time the police know who the 'radicalised' suspect was/is? The west has gone too soft! if there is any sniff of them being radicalised/intent on killing or doing harm.. forget about freedom of speech and their rights etc. they should be locked up. You wouldn't see the Russians or Chinese putting up with it, you wouldn't even hear of them, they'd be locked up. Making the country a safer place. Need to go in also and stop these radical schools/teachers if they don't stop and continue their ways, lock them up also,end of... I was reading in australias budget 2 weeks ago we pulled out $300m of foreign aid to train up a few hundred terrorist police. But what's the point if due to their rights you can only monitor them? Lock them up. Exactly, so they are saying that he was on the polices peripheral already. What do they mean by that I wonder, and what did they already know about him ๐. Things like that never seem to be questioned |
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Manchester Explosion, by Viking Surfer on May 24, 2017 0:07:20 GMT 1, Moved to tears again looking at the photos of the victims this morning.
Poor innocent kids.
Moved to tears again looking at the photos of the victims this morning.
Poor innocent kids.
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Manchester Explosion, by wisky on May 24, 2017 0:38:48 GMT 1, Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too?
If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach!
And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes .......
"This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder"
Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it?
Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too?
If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach!
And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes .......
"This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder"
Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it?
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Manchester Explosion, by wisky on May 24, 2017 0:44:09 GMT 1, *Thanks for the advice my friend*
I AM upset about this, I have now blocked these two people!
*Thanks for the advice my friend*
I AM upset about this, I have now blocked these two people!
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Manchester Explosion, by milo99 on May 24, 2017 0:44:53 GMT 1, Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it?
It wasn't a joke...
Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it? It wasn't a joke... |
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Manchester Explosion, by tartarus on May 24, 2017 1:08:36 GMT 1, Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it?
Its hard to get into this on a thread like this so im going to go very gently here. While there is no justification for whats been done, the reason in the perpetrators head may well be the attacks our country has made on other countries, in which children have been killed. Distasteful as this blatantly is, pointing out this is a series of events that causes such tragedies, does not make Bakshi a bad person in the slightest, hes just telling it as it is. Maybe emotion has taken over, which i get. but i think it may have led you to misunderstand Bakshi's point.
Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it? Be careful what you say dude. This is very wrong. Its hard to get into this on a thread like this so im going to go very gently here. While there is no justification for whats been done, the reason in the perpetrators head may well be the attacks our country has made on other countries, in which children have been killed. Distasteful as this blatantly is, pointing out this is a series of events that causes such tragedies, does not make Bakshi a bad person in the slightest, hes just telling it as it is. Maybe emotion has taken over, which i get. but i think it may have led you to misunderstand Bakshi's point. |
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Manchester Explosion, by misterx on May 24, 2017 3:04:01 GMT 1, Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it? Be careful what you say dude. This is very wrong. Its hard to get into this on a thread like this so im going to go very gently here. While there is no justification for whats been done, the reason in the perpetrators head may well be the attacks our country has made on other countries, in which children have been killed. Distasteful as this blatantly is, pointing out this is a series of events that causes such tragedies, does not make Bakshi a bad person in the slightest, hes just telling it as it is. Maybe emotion has taken over, which i get. but i think it may have led you to misunderstand Bakshi's point.
My 2 cents worth?
Until such time as Western Politicians stop blindly following the US lead when it comes to geo politics in the Middle East, these chickens are going to continue to come home to roost.
Yes, this bombing is dreadfully appalling. No civilians, albeit children or adults, deserve to be murdered, but this principle has to be applied universally, not just when blue eyed, blonde haired people are involved.
Hellfire missiles are the same as nail bombs....they both kill civilians and ruin lives.
Sadly, most people don't seem too worried about the Hellfires.
Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it? Be careful what you say dude. This is very wrong. Its hard to get into this on a thread like this so im going to go very gently here. While there is no justification for whats been done, the reason in the perpetrators head may well be the attacks our country has made on other countries, in which children have been killed. Distasteful as this blatantly is, pointing out this is a series of events that causes such tragedies, does not make Bakshi a bad person in the slightest, hes just telling it as it is. Maybe emotion has taken over, which i get. but i think it may have led you to misunderstand Bakshi's point. Agreed. My 2 cents worth? Until such time as Western Politicians stop blindly following the US lead when it comes to geo politics in the Middle East, these chickens are going to continue to come home to roost. Yes, this bombing is dreadfully appalling. No civilians, albeit children or adults, deserve to be murdered, but this principle has to be applied universally, not just when blue eyed, blonde haired people are involved. Hellfire missiles are the same as nail bombs....they both kill civilians and ruin lives. Sadly, most people don't seem too worried about the Hellfires. |
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Manchester Explosion, by Deleted on May 24, 2017 16:32:42 GMT 1, Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it?
Bakshi and Milo99 should be banned for their comments on this thread, I can't believe that no-one else thinks this too? If Bakshi was my neighbour, I'd be reporting him to MI5, he is showing dangerous signs of a radicalised extremist, there can be NO justification of some coward little w***er heading out to kill children, he is of the opinion that this is ok because of people dying in other countries.... Ban this cockroach! And Milo99 feels that now is the time to make f***ing jokes ....... "This guy Osama bin loading was arrested who lived near me, apparently he was planning a mass murder" Daniel Silk or Dappy or Forum Guardians, take a look, this can't right can it? I think you read too much into what Bakshi wrote. |
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Manchester Explosion, by Deleted on May 24, 2017 17:02:18 GMT 1, How people who come to live in Britain view us and British law and culture and society is more important than how we view them.
People who decide that they should have special treatment and UK laws should not apply to them and who choose to follow religious law or some other foreign doctrine rather than British law should never be pandered to by politicians but unfortunately it is because they are after votes from this sector.
More than one version of Islam is promoted and followed globally ranging from very peaceful to intolerant.
Being too politically correct and refusing to acknowledge problems does not help with security.
Whether the security services dropped the ball and whether the government has blood on it's hands and if the attack could have been prevented. We will never know considereing the government and media have never been honest with us since many years ago.
How people who come to live in Britain view us and British law and culture and society is more important than how we view them.
People who decide that they should have special treatment and UK laws should not apply to them and who choose to follow religious law or some other foreign doctrine rather than British law should never be pandered to by politicians but unfortunately it is because they are after votes from this sector.
More than one version of Islam is promoted and followed globally ranging from very peaceful to intolerant.
Being too politically correct and refusing to acknowledge problems does not help with security.
Whether the security services dropped the ball and whether the government has blood on it's hands and if the attack could have been prevented. We will never know considereing the government and media have never been honest with us since many years ago.
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