that isnt an answer, thats stupid trying to defend itself. 

last night was 3 individuals. why do you want to blame their religion and everyone in it? 

who was talking about religion??

being capable of free thought, god forbid that does ever happen, im not going to run out the door and blame anyone i see!!! im also not going to go all stupid as fuck and blame my Muslim friends, why would i do that!!!!!!!! 

you have no idea it seems that these are individuals that dont hold the same Muslim values as most muslims. are you unable to entangle this when it comes to a bunch of lunatics within a religion means the entire religion are lunatics? 

Huge history of pedophileia in the christian faith right? is every christian a pedophile? should we now embark on a mission to kill all christians before they rape our children? 

let me guess, thats different right? 

Well I guess it can if your a special kind of stupid.

Same rules apply mate, the actions of one dog do not determine the behaviour or mentality of that breed of dog.

You don't seem to get that individuals have free will outside of the groupings we put them in. Maybe go read about labelling theory and see how that sits with you.

we are policed "by consent" thank you very much, that means we do not want our police or citizens routinely armed.  Within 8 minutes those responsible were dead, good enough for me, don't want a country awash with guns and gun deaths.

 I certainly resent you accusing me of supporting "mass genocide".

Who and what exactly are you pandering to? Playing with words to score brownie points.


I never mentioned religion. I mentioned a certain ideology and cultural values. You did not read what I wrote just assumed I was blaming religion.

There are people who live in the UK and europe who refuse to accept democracy and are not patriotic to the country they live in. They prefer to ignore our democratic law and follow sharia law. To create a state within a state and have no respect for our law or culture. Unfortunately for many years politicians and police have covered up their crimes against democracy and against the countries they live in as in Sweden where the politicians covered up the rapes and attacks by people. In Germany and in the UK in Rochdale and Rotherham etc. All of these crimes were due to the criminals viewing us as inferior and not respecting our laws. By covering up and in some cases ignoring these crimes the politicians and police have not dealt with a serious problem regarding peoples attitude towards us. We are looked upon as soft and a pushover. Hate preachers are allowed to preach their hate and get free housing and social security etc.

It all comes down to how people integrate and how patriotic they are to the country they decide to live in. If they move to a country and refuse to live by that countries laws and moral standards then of course an underground network is established.

I did not blame any religion, I said ideology. One thing you cannot refute is that all these terrorist attacks and crimes are religiously motivated.

My view on all religions is people are free to follow any religion they choose and not to use religion to hide behind to commit crime or to commit racism or regard us as inferior.

There are people who refuse to integrate, have you ever wondered why?




Here is a video that might educate you. It is about integration in Australia but is appropriate to Europe too.

The person issuing the warnings about this is a muslim leader himself.

problem we have now is that a bunch of pricks have taken the steam on and are running around trying to force wedges between every group they can find in order to cause as much chaos and confusion amongst the people as possible. Its good for control you see. 

the more you feed the hate, the worse it gets. They think they are after the Kuffar right? hey, they have been told the kuffar is the enemy huh. just like you are told islam is the enemy and you have sucked it up. its rhetoric, rhetoric people buy in to. But you are doing the exact same thing and perpetuating it!!! 

They are taught to hate kuffar, so they do. Who knows who the kuffar really are? are they really any other religion with differing views? are they anyone with no religion? who knows, no one is really told, so they could be anyone. if kuffar is just an enemy, then it could be anyone, it could be the islamic state fighter who in essence fights for a bastardised version of islam with its own values and acceptable morals, who knows who they are fighting, they are fighting who they are told to fight, they are taught why, but the lesson is about hate not religion, this is WHY we call them terrorists. 

now you want to preach the same kind of hate as some sort of solution to the problem? 

hardly likely to resolve things now is it thicky. 


(appols for the Kuffar spelling, i looked it up but there are too many options for my dyslexia to cope!!) 

I hate getting into this so I am going to say something and not even look at the response anyone has to offer. The world is sick and tired of extremists that includes some people here expressing their vile opinions. To them I say please let us mourn our dead and care for our injured and you just shut the fuck up.

generalised hate, coupled with phenominal stupidity at a guess. 

Nah. That video is just right wing propaganda... same as the moon landings

you take stupid to a whole other level dude. 

you want me to condemn it? ill condemn it, its sick its fucking disgusting, its a vile act perpetrated by an evil bastard on most likely innocent people. i have no problem condemning it, none at all. What i have an issue with, is fools like you trying to blame an entire demographic of people for the actions of a tiny few. But like i say, with your stupidity you wont be able to get that point. 

What would be nice now that i have condemned their actions and fitted what you expect, is to hear some sense from you, about how our policy of global warfare has sparked all this. Or are you in denial about the facts? 

i mean lets be honest, if we hadnt followed the US into so many potentially profitable wars like the good little idiots we were, none of this is likely to be happening to us. But i suppose that played no part in what is happening here right?? 

Im sure you are all for added security along with blaming a faith for a terrorist eh? with out realising you would be handing your rights to a government who have scared you out of wanting them. Soon they will have you begging for their protection, even though you fail to realise THEY are the ones destroying your freedoms. The US funded the mujahadine to fight the Russian menace, al quaida formed from mujahaidne, with weapons and funding from the US as mujahadine, with arms funds and help from the US as al quaida, and then we send arms gallore to saudi, who also fund and arm the terrorists. at what point are we responsible for our own actions??? 

dont talk to me about apologists when you are defending the indefensible you fool. your ignorance of the reality that is behind these actions is what needs dealing with. pretending we have no part in this or that this is the actions of an entire faith is just totally not helpful and will only fuel the hate that is already there. wake up and realise that what you are doing is as divisive as it gets when it comes to resolving this problem that we all have!!  or i guess keep faling into their trap, divide and rule eh.