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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:11:29 GMT 1, I like Steves honesty in interviews.
He happily talks about marketing the art, people investing in art and increasing values, while so many of the artists dishonesty pretend they are not interested in the money and increases in the value of their work. But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices.
I like Steves honesty in interviews.
He happily talks about marketing the art, people investing in art and increasing values, while so many of the artists dishonesty pretend they are not interested in the money and increases in the value of their work. But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Lroy on Aug 27, 2017 13:29:30 GMT 1, " But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. "
I don't think so if there is a contract.
As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ...
As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc...
when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too.
But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off .
Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
" But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. "
I don't think so if there is a contract.
As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ...
As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc...
when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too.
But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off .
Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 13:30:07 GMT 1, I like him too, and he's much needed for the scene. Don't forget for every Banksy or Harrington he's supported dozens of other artists to varying degrees of success and without that support the urban art scene wouldn't be where it is today. He's also put on some fantastic shows over the years, which have massively raised the profile of so many artists. Would be great to see another Bedlam type show again.
I like him too, and he's much needed for the scene. Don't forget for every Banksy or Harrington he's supported dozens of other artists to varying degrees of success and without that support the urban art scene wouldn't be where it is today. He's also put on some fantastic shows over the years, which have massively raised the profile of so many artists. Would be great to see another Bedlam type show again.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Cookiemonster on Aug 27, 2017 13:36:15 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:42:12 GMT 1, " But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. " I don't think so if there is a contract. As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ... As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc... when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too. But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off . Maybe I am wrong maybe not.
" But really it's the Artists themselves who are the ones who can really control the market by deciding on edition sizes and prices. " I don't think so if there is a contract. As for music, movies. Entertainments, sports, etc ,, In galleries, for great artists, there is a PR, a producer, a lawyer, manager etc ... who decides of prices, the places, rules, etc ... As for Banksy, there is contracts mentioning the " rules " for people working with or for, or who as working for, to never mention the name, nor speak about what is secrecy, etc , etc... when I say " rules " we can call it ethic too. But I agree ( And that what happened to Laz with Banksy first then to Invader ) you can denounce this contract or just tell the manager/gallerist to F.. off . Maybe I am wrong maybe not. True, but those Artists have signed those contracts. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by sugar72 on Aug 27, 2017 13:43:34 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not.
Agree but at end of day he has to balance emotive issues like who he is going to promote versus business/ financial considerations. A tough job
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not. Agree but at end of day he has to balance emotive issues like who he is going to promote versus business/ financial considerations. A tough job |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:49:50 GMT 1, As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not.
Depends on better for who.
Lovers of art as a pure and simple image to enjoy are losing out due to small editions and high prices, but for collectors/investors, Galleries and Artists they are doing well with the current trends. I guess Banksy now is in control of if, what, when, how much, prints are released, and so far that's meant even higher values and prices.
i would have thought if Steve was in control he would be releasing maybe 3 Banksy print editions a year, and I would have thought that would mean lower print values overall.
As a business model of people keep buying and he will keep selling them. He wouldn't do it if the market wasn't there that market being for financial reasons? I agree though it is a business, but thats not what Banksy was about, so if the game has changed, is it for the better? Silky thinks not. "Is it for the better?" Depends on better for who. Lovers of art as a pure and simple image to enjoy are losing out due to small editions and high prices, but for collectors/investors, Galleries and Artists they are doing well with the current trends. I guess Banksy now is in control of if, what, when, how much, prints are released, and so far that's meant even higher values and prices. i would have thought if Steve was in control he would be releasing maybe 3 Banksy print editions a year, and I would have thought that would mean lower print values overall. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Cookiemonster on Aug 27, 2017 13:52:29 GMT 1, No its not an easy job, but for a man with that much clear talent (Banksy), the continued rinsing of old images is that because they need the money or because they can get away with it?
No its not an easy job, but for a man with that much clear talent (Banksy), the continued rinsing of old images is that because they need the money or because they can get away with it?
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Aug 27, 2017 13:56:00 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best?
1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets.
2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each.
What option do you thinks best?
1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets.
2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by nobokov on Aug 27, 2017 15:27:01 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each.
I also love the rush from limited print releases...
Option 2 puts a limitation on the edition and limits it to those who can afford £1000, so I'm not sure that would change anything as people still flip unsigned movie posters with edition sizes of 500. If you're against flipping, I think that option 2 would be an unlimited print release at Walmart prices screened by machines or sweatshop workers. There would be no reason for a secondary market if the artwork is always available on the primary.
What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each. Option 1. I'd rather art from the top artists to be for the limited few to act as an investment vehicle. I can always just take a high res jpeg and print the image myself to hang for my own pleasure if I'm unwilling or unable to pay the going rate. I also love the rush from limited print releases... Option 2 puts a limitation on the edition and limits it to those who can afford £1000, so I'm not sure that would change anything as people still flip unsigned movie posters with edition sizes of 500. If you're against flipping, I think that option 2 would be an unlimited print release at Walmart prices screened by machines or sweatshop workers. There would be no reason for a secondary market if the artwork is always available on the primary. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by willamsa on Aug 27, 2017 21:50:20 GMT 1, Should have called this thread 'The man who made Laz famous'
Should have called this thread 'The man who made Laz famous'
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by oxfordwelshchap on Aug 27, 2017 22:31:06 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each.
What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each. That depends on who you pose the question to. To those who have 'invested' in an overpriced banksy print and expect inflation on the value then option 1. To joe average who wants a banksy for the art to go on the wall then maybe a modified option 2 (I say modified as 1K is no walking around cash!) |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Snakes on Aug 29, 2017 19:54:23 GMT 1, I never knew Alexi Sayle had something to do with Banksy. No doubt where Banksy got some of his humour from.
I never knew Alexi Sayle had something to do with Banksy. No doubt where Banksy got some of his humour from.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 21:23:27 GMT 1, Preferred him in Kojak.
Preferred him in Kojak.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 21:27:19 GMT 1, Dr Evil if you ask me.
Dr Evil if you ask me.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by jayTown on Sept 1, 2017 14:22:11 GMT 1, Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque.
Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by thomasmer on Sept 2, 2017 7:03:09 GMT 1, Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque.
Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore.
Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by sugar72 on Sept 2, 2017 7:06:12 GMT 1, God this thread is getting stupid
God this thread is getting stupid
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by jayTown on Sept 2, 2017 7:49:00 GMT 1, Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore.
I don't get it. Invader is clearly still working with him, I bet he hasn't even cleared the funds from the last sale yet.
Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore. I don't get it. Invader is clearly still working with him, I bet he hasn't even cleared the funds from the last sale yet. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by sugar72 on Sept 2, 2017 8:30:28 GMT 1, Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore.
In business there are many legit and sensible reasons aside from people being cockwobbles, why someone would change their management.
Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore. In business there are many legit and sensible reasons aside from people being cockwobbles, why someone would change their management. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by erik on Sept 2, 2017 12:52:38 GMT 1, Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore.
Everyone loves to vilify the person who adds a commercial element to something emotive. He might be shaking us down but he's surely been good for the artists?...I'm sure Invader didn't mind the paycheque. I'm sure if you ask Invader, Banksy, Connor, and so on what they think of him, you won't hear much if anything good. Simple, if you're a total cockwobble then you're artists won't work with you anymore. Isn't Conors wife still working with him as well? Not sure if this reasoning is sound. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Aug 14, 2022 13:26:41 GMT 1, The man who made Banksy famous
The man who made Banksy famous Would Banksy have made it this far without the guidance of Steve Lazarides? Would Banksy be even bigger now if Steve was still involved? |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by kdrlly on Aug 25, 2022 8:54:17 GMT 1, What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each.
What option do you thinks best? 1. Things as they are, with no Banksy prints being released and prices rising well beyond most people's pockets. 2. 3 Banksy prints released every year, editions of 1,000 priced at £1,000 each. I know I’m replying to an ancient post but he can either be the man of the people or a man of the very rich people. Luckily WCP (aka Banksy, aka Pablo, aka not not Banksy… isn’t that a double negative?) is doing the man of the people bit quite nicely. |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by drbf on Sept 12, 2022 0:33:24 GMT 1, Overpriced? 😳 I guess if they had some kind of proof they came from Lazarides and they were a limited in some way? But otherwise they could just easily be reproduced again and again at your local high street photo shop. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325334377656 
Overpriced? 😳 I guess if they had some kind of proof they came from Lazarides and they were a limited in some way? But otherwise they could just easily be reproduced again and again at your local high street photo shop. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325334377656I think this says it all "I could not sell at an auction house unsigned or unauthenticated" |
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by kdrlly on Sept 12, 2022 8:42:05 GMT 1, Now that does need adding to the top ten of Banksy tat. Hopefully it comes with a hoof print if authenticity from the moo cow.
Now that does need adding to the top ten of Banksy tat. Hopefully it comes with a hoof print if authenticity from the moo cow.
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by bluewater73 on Oct 17, 2022 18:42:49 GMT 1, You are correct. However I think a little credit should go to Centurys , London rep., a young Banksy enthusiast who pitched the idea/format and brokered the deal himself for "Wall and Piece" with Steve . It turned out to be the biggest selling Art book ever. Banksy was obviously a recognised graffiti artist in Bristol and London but with the release of the book his popularity soared
You are correct. However I think a little credit should go to Centurys , London rep., a young Banksy enthusiast who pitched the idea/format and brokered the deal himself for "Wall and Piece" with Steve . It turned out to be the biggest selling Art book ever. Banksy was obviously a recognised graffiti artist in Bristol and London but with the release of the book his popularity soared
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Steve Lazarides "The man who made Banksy famous", by Daniel Silk on Oct 19, 2024 1:33:31 GMT 1, The man who made Banksy famous
With Banksy hiding his identity, Steve acted like a spokesperson, and with his gift of the gab style, I feel it was a large part of the success. How long has it been now that Banksy hasn't had a spokesperson? a human face to talk to the media and appear on the news or at events? Yeah, Banksy puts out some very witty statements, but Steve has that cheeky chappy delivery that added too the naughty boy Banksy persona.
The man who made Banksy famous With Banksy hiding his identity, Steve acted like a spokesperson, and with his gift of the gab style, I feel it was a large part of the success. How long has it been now that Banksy hasn't had a spokesperson? a human face to talk to the media and appear on the news or at events? Yeah, Banksy puts out some very witty statements, but Steve has that cheeky chappy delivery that added too the naughty boy Banksy persona. |
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