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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pr.yu on Sept 18, 2017 12:00:26 GMT 1, Being based in Australia - buying one on the secondary market is probably the only chance I would have of owning one.ย I actually like the piece and don't care that its unlimited, un-numbered or un-signed. I'll happily pay someone from the trouble of getting me one, but not over the odds like the eBay ones (which have likely just been trolled) If you can get wisam to agree to it... id happily go collect a box set for 2 return flights, transfers and a couple nights in the presidential suite.
And what would that cost?
Being based in Australia - buying one on the secondary market is probably the only chance I would have of owning one.ย I actually like the piece and don't care that its unlimited, un-numbered or un-signed. I'll happily pay someone from the trouble of getting me one, but not over the odds like the eBay ones (which have likely just been trolled) If you can get wisam to agree to it... id happily go collect a box set for 2 return flights, transfers and a couple nights in the presidential suite. And what would that cost? |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Majestic on Sept 18, 2017 12:01:42 GMT 1, Is this still going? 
Is this still going? |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Sliding on the Walls on Sept 18, 2017 12:20:04 GMT 1, This forum has really gone down hill
This forum has really gone down hill
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 12:54:24 GMT 1, This forum has really gone down hill
Dont go, stay !!
lets have some sanity back
please
This forum has really gone down hill Dont go, stay !! lets have some sanity back please |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pr.yu on Sept 18, 2017 14:06:30 GMT 1, The economics of this kind of make sense in my mind. If Invader print sells for 1K from source and then sells for 4K on secondary market, then paying 4-5K for this on the secondary market doesn't seem absurd if the cost of getting one includes flight and hotel stay and time spent. And it's a Banksy, not Invader. I know it's unlimited, but that doesn't change the cost involved in getting one. Just my opinion.
The economics of this kind of make sense in my mind. If Invader print sells for 1K from source and then sells for 4K on secondary market, then paying 4-5K for this on the secondary market doesn't seem absurd if the cost of getting one includes flight and hotel stay and time spent. And it's a Banksy, not Invader. I know it's unlimited, but that doesn't change the cost involved in getting one. Just my opinion.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by london on Sept 18, 2017 14:22:41 GMT 1, LOL, guy on here selling his is looking for 5K. Its comical! Its an open edition, unsigned, and unlimited run. I could literally take a flight from San Francisco, stay at the hotel, get the print and barely break $1K (already crunched the numbers). People riding that hype train.
So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set?
LOL, guy on here selling his is looking for 5K. Its comical! Its an open edition, unsigned, and unlimited run. I could literally take a flight from San Francisco, stay at the hotel, get the print and barely break $1K (already crunched the numbers). People riding that hype train. So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set? |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by ToonKiller on Sept 18, 2017 14:52:32 GMT 1, A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally".
A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally".
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Coach on Sept 18, 2017 14:54:04 GMT 1, A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally".
Or "apparently"
A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally". Or "apparently" |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:23:54 GMT 1, Or 'in my opinion '
Or 'in my opinion '
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Sept 18, 2017 15:26:51 GMT 1, LOL, guy on here selling his is looking for 5K. Its comical! Its an open edition, unsigned, and unlimited run. I could literally take a flight from San Francisco, stay at the hotel, get the print and barely break $1K (already crunched the numbers). People riding that hype train. So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set?
Think you're missing the point. If you had $5k to spend on it, why not go for $1k and get it yourself?
I'm sure people have their reasons, but on paper it seems fairly crazy!
LOL, guy on here selling his is looking for 5K. Its comical! Its an open edition, unsigned, and unlimited run. I could literally take a flight from San Francisco, stay at the hotel, get the print and barely break $1K (already crunched the numbers). People riding that hype train. So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set? Think you're missing the point. If you had $5k to spend on it, why not go for $1k and get it yourself? I'm sure people have their reasons, but on paper it seems fairly crazy! |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by london on Sept 18, 2017 16:17:52 GMT 1, So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set? Think you're missing the point. If you had $5k to spend on it, why not go for $1k and get it yourself? I'm sure people have their reasons, but on paper it seems fairly crazy!
I totally get the point, but lazy c**t who are bitter because they are too lazy / afraid of booking a flight and would rather bitch and moan from there keyboard about people that made the effort to get the print, its there print they can sell it for whatever they want.
So why don't you get off your fat arse and go to Palestine and get yourself as box set? Think you're missing the point. If you had $5k to spend on it, why not go for $1k and get it yourself? I'm sure people have their reasons, but on paper it seems fairly crazy! I totally get the point, but lazy c**t who are bitter because they are too lazy / afraid of booking a flight and would rather bitch and moan from there keyboard about people that made the effort to get the print, its there print they can sell it for whatever they want. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 16:36:40 GMT 1, A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally". Or "apparently"
A good rule in forum reading is to always stop reading when anyone uses the word "literally". Or "apparently" Or "Supposedly" |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 18, 2017 16:40:42 GMT 1, Didn't run through this whole thread, so apologies if this is redundant. Emailed Pest Control, and they say they won't be authenticating any of these or anything else from the hotel.
This is interesting.
So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys?
With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market?
Didn't run through this whole thread, so apologies if this is redundant. Emailed Pest Control, and they say they won't be authenticating any of these or anything else from the hotel. This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 17:01:41 GMT 1, This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? They can't, they will self destruct within 4 week of issue
They can't, they will be worth 1p each
They will be worth thousands, look at the posters with out COA or album covers
Millions they'll be worth, as Pest is being bought out by WCP
its not interesting, its rather dull, buy them if you want or like them, don't buy if you dont
Its that f**kingsimple
I am a moron
This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? They can't, they will self destruct within 4 week of issue
They can't, they will be worth 1p each
They will be worth thousands, look at the posters with out COA or album covers
Millions they'll be worth, as Pest is being bought out by WCP
its not interesting, its rather dull, buy them if you want or like them, don't buy if you dont
Its that f**kingsimple
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by A.R.T. on Sept 18, 2017 17:10:46 GMT 1, Didn't run through this whole thread, so apologies if this is redundant. Emailed Pest Control, and they say they won't be authenticating any of these or anything else from the hotel. This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market?
Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases.
Didn't run through this whole thread, so apologies if this is redundant. Emailed Pest Control, and they say they won't be authenticating any of these or anything else from the hotel. This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Rouen Cathedral on Sept 18, 2017 17:37:05 GMT 1, This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases.
That's true. Those are all posters and their prices correspond to that.
These however are being assumed as 'prints' and so far the pricing has been as 'prints'. There's one big difference though. And that is a COA.
This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases. That's true. Those are all posters and their prices correspond to that. These however are being assumed as 'prints' and so far the pricing has been as 'prints'. There's one big difference though. And that is a COA. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pr.yu on Sept 18, 2017 18:18:39 GMT 1, One just ended on eBay at $9600. Oof!
One just ended on eBay at $9600. Oof!
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Reptile 072 on Sept 18, 2017 18:44:23 GMT 1, Gotta love how that auction does not show the bidders' usernames/identities, though. What is the rationale for not providing transparency? Think it's an easy answer.
Gotta love how that auction does not show the bidders' usernames/identities, though. What is the rationale for not providing transparency? Think it's an easy answer.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by aml on Sept 18, 2017 18:47:36 GMT 1, I wouldn't trust it even if it showed the shortened, obscured identities of the bidders.
I wouldn't trust it even if it showed the shortened, obscured identities of the bidders.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Snakes on Sept 18, 2017 18:50:18 GMT 1, Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising.
Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 18:58:47 GMT 1, Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising.
Yeah it is, has the stamp on the back
I have one that I bought to compare, its the same thing
I have written to Sweden for Authenticity just in case, having something in writing makes it more real to me
i hope they won't want me to send it to them
Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising. Yeah it is, has the stamp on the back I have one that I bought to compare, its the same thing I have written to Sweden for Authenticity just in case, having something in writing makes it more real to me i hope they won't want me to send it to them |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pippyt75 on Sept 18, 2017 19:04:17 GMT 1, Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising. Yeah it is, has the stamp on the back I have one that I bought to compare, its the same thing I have written to Sweden for Authenticity just in case, having something in writing makes it more real to me i hope they won't want me to send it to them
. Make sure you keep the whole email chain.
Is it really a real Ikea frame? If not then it clearly will not be worth as much and is false advertising. Yeah it is, has the stamp on the back I have one that I bought to compare, its the same thing I have written to Sweden for Authenticity just in case, having something in writing makes it more real to me i hope they won't want me to send it to them . Make sure you keep the whole email chain. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 19:07:32 GMT 1, Regarding provenance, original receipts for the trip, hotel and shop will probably go a long way in the future as proof of authenticity if Pest Control are not willing to issue anything also has anyone actually taken the backing board of the frame yet, have seen the image of the back of one that was listed on Ebay and they are not taped up so easy to just open up and have a look, anything printed, stamped or written on the back?
Maybe something stamped to the underside of the rocks?
Best not to post details if the answer is yes though as I am sure the fakers are already hard at it!!
Regarding provenance, original receipts for the trip, hotel and shop will probably go a long way in the future as proof of authenticity if Pest Control are not willing to issue anything also has anyone actually taken the backing board of the frame yet, have seen the image of the back of one that was listed on Ebay and they are not taped up so easy to just open up and have a look, anything printed, stamped or written on the back?
Maybe something stamped to the underside of the rocks?
Best not to post details if the answer is yes though as I am sure the fakers are already hard at it!!
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Sept 18, 2017 19:15:16 GMT 1, You can't give a COA to something unnumbered!
It would be worthless.
You can't give a COA to something unnumbered!
It would be worthless.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pr.yu on Sept 18, 2017 19:18:21 GMT 1, You can't give a COA to something unnumbered! It would be worthless.
You can't give a COA to something unnumbered! It would be worthless. I don't really understand this logic. Though it's clearly a moot point. Authenticity would only apply to the fact that it was produced by whoever is putting them together at the behest of Banksy at the Walled Off Hotel. It has nothing to do with being numbered or not. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by pr.yu on Sept 18, 2017 19:20:53 GMT 1, Saw somewhere in one of these threads that the glass is easily removable to replace with museum glass. Anyone else who owns one of these know if that's really the case?
Saw somewhere in one of these threads that the glass is easily removable to replace with museum glass. Anyone else who owns one of these know if that's really the case?
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Happy Shopper on Sept 18, 2017 19:22:30 GMT 1, You can't give a COA to something unnumbered! It would be worthless. I don't really understand this logic. Though it's clearly a moot point. Authenticity would only apply to the fact that it was produced by whoever is putting them together at the behest of Banksy at the Walled Off Hotel. It has nothing to do with being numbered or not.ย
How would you match the COA to the piece it's authenticating?
You can't give a COA to something unnumbered! It would be worthless. I don't really understand this logic. Though it's clearly a moot point. Authenticity would only apply to the fact that it was produced by whoever is putting them together at the behest of Banksy at the Walled Off Hotel. It has nothing to do with being numbered or not.ย How would you match the COA to the piece it's authenticating? |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Sept 18, 2017 19:24:07 GMT 1, Definitely a nice souvenir to pick up on a visit, and certainly worth buying at cost but I question if in several years time if they will appreciate much without a PC COA. Surely they will be faked, anyone can buy an Ikea frame and put something together that looks similar. If Pest control aren't authenticating then I'd hesitate to buy one at much more than the original price. I'll be interested to see what happens.
Definitely a nice souvenir to pick up on a visit, and certainly worth buying at cost but I question if in several years time if they will appreciate much without a PC COA. Surely they will be faked, anyone can buy an Ikea frame and put something together that looks similar. If Pest control aren't authenticating then I'd hesitate to buy one at much more than the original price. I'll be interested to see what happens.
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 19:24:28 GMT 1, This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases.
I think everyone will be surprised in the future as to what PC will do with this release.
This is interesting. So if they aren't authenticated can they really be considered real banksys? With no authentication how can these survive on the secondary market? Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases. I think everyone will be surprised in the future as to what PC will do with this release. |
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Banksy โข Box Set, Walled Off Hotel, by Unica on Sept 18, 2017 19:26:23 GMT 1, Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases. I think everyone will be surprised in the future as to what PC will do with this release.
Just beacuse the wont get a Pest Control cert does not mean they are not from Banksy. Look at Monkey Parliment or Soup Cans posters. Those are official Banksy releases. I think everyone will be surprised in the future as to what PC will do with this release. Can you let us know what they are going to do? |
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