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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2020 16:54:55 GMT 1, Genuinely curious about this. If someone or another gallery finds a buyer, takes a cut and you end up getting your full asking price for the piece isn't that the end goal regardless? Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price.
Genuinely curious about this. If someone or another gallery finds a buyer, takes a cut and you end up getting your full asking price for the piece isn't that the end goal regardless? Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. I see. Thanks for clarifying and getting back to me. Was always curious about this but can see why that could cause issues |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Harveyn on Oct 15, 2020 17:11:52 GMT 1, Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. I see. Thanks for clarifying and getting back to me. Was always curious about this but can see why that could cause issues
The other aspect is, the third party offers a work endlessly on the secondary market at inflated prices, the work does not sell and eventually becomes devalued in terms of its actual market value. Obviously not applicable in the current Banksy market which is spiralling upwards. But imagine they take an original that a gallery is selling from an artist that is becoming popular and doing reasonable well. They establish the asking price from the gallery and then try to sell it for twice the price to their network of contacts. They overestimate the popularity and the work does not sell. This can have a dramatic effect on the value of the piece and indeed the artists work in general, depending on the number of people they have offered it to, the number of times they have offered it and the sudden dramatic reduced offers they make in a desperate attempt to make a cut.
Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. I see. Thanks for clarifying and getting back to me. Was always curious about this but can see why that could cause issues The other aspect is, the third party offers a work endlessly on the secondary market at inflated prices, the work does not sell and eventually becomes devalued in terms of its actual market value. Obviously not applicable in the current Banksy market which is spiralling upwards. But imagine they take an original that a gallery is selling from an artist that is becoming popular and doing reasonable well. They establish the asking price from the gallery and then try to sell it for twice the price to their network of contacts. They overestimate the popularity and the work does not sell. This can have a dramatic effect on the value of the piece and indeed the artists work in general, depending on the number of people they have offered it to, the number of times they have offered it and the sudden dramatic reduced offers they make in a desperate attempt to make a cut. |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Moniker Projects on Oct 15, 2020 17:35:02 GMT 1, I see. Thanks for clarifying and getting back to me. Was always curious about this but can see why that could cause issues The other aspect is, the third party offers a work endlessly on the secondary market at inflated prices, the work does not sell and eventually becomes devalued in terms of its actual market value.ย Obviously not applicable in the current Banksy market which is spiralling upwards.ย But imagine they take an original that a gallery is selling from an artist that is becoming popular and doing reasonable well.ย They establish the asking price from the gallery and then try to sell it for twice the price to their network of contacts.ย They overestimate the popularity and the work does not sell.ย This can have a dramatic effect on the value of the piece and indeed the artists work in general, depending on the number of people they have offered it to, the number of times they have offered it and the sudden dramatic reduced offers they make in a desperate attempt to make a cut.ย ย ย
And finally, if the third-party gallery does manage to agree a price with the buyer, the likelihood is that they want to see it in person first before transferring cash. But that gallery doesnโt own the work, weโre not releasing it without payment as we think weโre talking to a regular customer, and it becomes a big old mess.
So by having POA, it just makes it a bit easier in dealing with everything direct and knowing who has access to what information. However, I can see how it doesnโt come across great on here, so for that I apologise.
I see. Thanks for clarifying and getting back to me. Was always curious about this but can see why that could cause issues The other aspect is, the third party offers a work endlessly on the secondary market at inflated prices, the work does not sell and eventually becomes devalued in terms of its actual market value.ย Obviously not applicable in the current Banksy market which is spiralling upwards.ย But imagine they take an original that a gallery is selling from an artist that is becoming popular and doing reasonable well.ย They establish the asking price from the gallery and then try to sell it for twice the price to their network of contacts.ย They overestimate the popularity and the work does not sell.ย This can have a dramatic effect on the value of the piece and indeed the artists work in general, depending on the number of people they have offered it to, the number of times they have offered it and the sudden dramatic reduced offers they make in a desperate attempt to make a cut.ย ย ย And finally, if the third-party gallery does manage to agree a price with the buyer, the likelihood is that they want to see it in person first before transferring cash. But that gallery doesnโt own the work, weโre not releasing it without payment as we think weโre talking to a regular customer, and it becomes a big old mess. So by having POA, it just makes it a bit easier in dealing with everything direct and knowing who has access to what information. However, I can see how it doesnโt come across great on here, so for that I apologise. |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by woodman on Oct 15, 2020 17:53:31 GMT 1, Pistol is not Moniker Projects. For some reason, they have decided to contact us, find out the information, and then post it on this thread. If Iโd have wanted to disclose the price to everyone, I would have done so myself. Iโve explained on here before when the question was previously raised, but the reason we have POA is so that we can have a conversation about the artwork, and also keep an eye on who is receiving this information. Iโve had situations before when other galleries find out our price, whack 10% on top, and try and sell our stock without our knowledge or permission. Iโve recently even had a situation when a gallery was trying to sell me an original work we already owned.
Edit - Forget that, I have just got to the bottom of the thread!
Pistol is not Moniker Projects. For some reason, they have decided to contact us, find out the information, and then post it on this thread. If Iโd have wanted to disclose the price to everyone, I would have done so myself. Iโve explained on here before when the question was previously raised, but the reason we have POA is so that we can have a conversation about the artwork, and also keep an eye on who is receiving this information. Iโve had situations before when other galleries find out our price, whack 10% on top, and try and sell our stock without our knowledge or permission. Iโve recently even had a situation when a gallery was trying to sell me an original work we already owned. Edit - Forget that, I have just got to the bottom of the thread! |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by acquiesce on Oct 15, 2020 18:24:26 GMT 1, Genuinely curious about this. If someone or another gallery finds a buyer, takes a cut and you end up getting your full asking price for the piece isn't that the end goal regardless? Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price.
Genuinely curious about this. If someone or another gallery finds a buyer, takes a cut and you end up getting your full asking price for the piece isn't that the end goal regardless? Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. Silly question, if it's a print, why not disclose the # (example 146/500) so that you or the buyer knows exactly which piece it is, this complicating things for the 3rd party sellers? |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Nuno on Oct 15, 2020 18:51:48 GMT 1, Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. Silly question, if it's a print, why not disclose the # (example 146/500) so that you or the buyer knows exactly which piece it is, this complicating things for the 3rd party sellers?
Or watermark the photos??
Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. Silly question, if it's a print, why not disclose the # (example 146/500) so that you or the buyer knows exactly which piece it is, this complicating things for the 3rd party sellers? Or watermark the photos?? |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by jp on Oct 15, 2020 21:56:44 GMT 1, Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. Silly question, if it's a print, why not disclose the # (example 146/500) so that you or the buyer knows exactly which piece it is, this complicating things for the 3rd party sellers?
Theoretically, yeah but it never works like that. The other gallery always get in contact (usually under another name) and try tirelessly to hammer down the price, and their buyer is often talking to us as well, saying that X gallery has this print too, which creates the illusion that thereโs more out there than there actually is. If a gallery contacts us direct, says they have a buyer etc... then weโre more than happy to work with them. Anyway, this seems to have stirred up quite a discussion. To be honest, I havenโt really seen the community aspect of this forum for a good while, but in future if we decide to post something for sale here, Iโll make sure to include a price. Silly question, if it's a print, why not disclose the # (example 146/500) so that you or the buyer knows exactly which piece it is, this complicating things for the 3rd party sellers? Funny you mention that. All this talk about transparency, but this forum largely consists of people with made up usernames, people covering numbers on prints for sale, secondary or tertiary accounts designed to create false sales, outright scams, etc. It's one of the most opaque forums I visit. |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by hibster on Oct 16, 2020 11:36:59 GMT 1, i will say as the O/P that i as wondering why i was still getting messages asking if it was still available & thinking i thought i'd said it was sold (deposit received) & amended the header
now i see this piggy backing on my sales thread & understand why i am still getting dms
so to clarify
mine is sold
thanks all
i will say as the O/P that i as wondering why i was still getting messages asking if it was still available & thinking i thought i'd said it was sold (deposit received) & amended the header
now i see this piggy backing on my sales thread & understand why i am still getting dms
so to clarify
mine is sold
thanks all
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by apprint on Nov 8, 2020 11:12:02 GMT 1, Banksy sale ends V2, mint never framed
With COA certificate
Can delivery in London this week
ยฃ55,000
Banksy sale ends V2, mint never framed
With COA certificate
Can delivery in London this week
ยฃ55,000
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Winter on Nov 8, 2020 11:15:15 GMT 1, Donโt think there are many signed Banksy prints in this price range any more.
Donโt think there are many signed Banksy prints in this price range any more.
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 13:37:14 GMT 1, Donโt think there are many signed Banksy prints in this price range any more.
You mean that itโs cheap or expensive?
Donโt think there are many signed Banksy prints in this price range any more. You mean that itโs cheap or expensive? |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Pistol on Nov 8, 2020 13:46:44 GMT 1, Most unsigned prints are around this price now!
Most unsigned prints are around this price now!
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by JD on Nov 8, 2020 14:22:25 GMT 1, Most unsigned prints are around this price now!
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Most unsigned prints are around this price now! ๐ |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Adam The Collector on Nov 8, 2020 20:50:53 GMT 1, All signed will be north of 100k usd shortly, pick this up while you still can.
All signed will be north of 100k usd shortly, pick this up while you still can.
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Lord Lucas Roham on Nov 8, 2020 22:25:38 GMT 1, Absolute bargain. A strong image and one that will go up in time when the market for these settles. Will easily climb to 75k
Absolute bargain. A strong image and one that will go up in time when the market for these settles. Will easily climb to 75k
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Lroy on Nov 8, 2020 22:26:32 GMT 1, Thanks fir answering my question winteriscoming
Thanks fir answering my question winteriscoming
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by uncle on Nov 25, 2020 15:55:23 GMT 1, Hi all,
I've decided I'm going to sell my Sale Ends v2.
Its absolutely mint, never framed, stored flat in a Selwins sleeve since purchase.
I have the COA and email provenance for the lottery win and purchase etc.
Looking at previous sales threads and auction results, I'm asking for ยฃ50-55k.
I'm based in London and would prefer a pick-up in person.
I will ship anywhere, but buyer has to pay full shipping including insurance - ideally by Flight Logistics.
Feel free to comment here, but please try not to derail the thread if you can help it.
I've bought and sold a few large and small items off here in the past and can provide references etc.
Further pics available via PM.
Cheers,
Uncle
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Hi all, I've decided I'm going to sell my Sale Ends v2. Its absolutely mint, never framed, stored flat in a Selwins sleeve since purchase. I have the COA and email provenance for the lottery win and purchase etc. Looking at previous sales threads and auction results, I'm asking for ยฃ50-55k. I'm based in London and would prefer a pick-up in person. I will ship anywhere, but buyer has to pay full shipping including insurance - ideally by Flight Logistics. Feel free to comment here, but please try not to derail the thread if you can help it. I've bought and sold a few large and small items off here in the past and can provide references etc. Further pics available via PM. Cheers, Uncle ย |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Dubman on Nov 25, 2020 15:57:56 GMT 1, Great piece in what looks like immaculate condition at a good price.
Wont be around for long - GLWTS!
Great piece in what looks like immaculate condition at a good price.
Wont be around for long - GLWTS!
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by gross on Nov 25, 2020 16:11:59 GMT 1, Prices are going ๐
Prices are going ๐
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Majestic on Nov 25, 2020 17:14:50 GMT 1, One of his best IMO!
One of his best IMO!
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by iamzero on Nov 25, 2020 17:44:01 GMT 1,
They could drop another ยฃ10k and theyโd still be doing well all things considered.
They could drop another ยฃ10k and theyโd still be doing well all things considered. |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Lroy on Nov 25, 2020 17:50:26 GMT 1, your finger is in the wrong side ! up !
your finger is in the wrong side ! up ! |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Lroy on Nov 25, 2020 17:51:28 GMT 1, You are working for Stoeby's ? Or Catawiki ?
How do you know lol
You are working for Stoeby's ? Or Catawiki ?
How do you know lol
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uncle
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by uncle on Nov 25, 2020 21:58:25 GMT 1, Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection.
Thanks all for comments and PMs.
Cheers,
Uncle
Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection.
Thanks all for comments and PMs.
Cheers,
Uncle
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Patrick 01 on Nov 25, 2020 22:01:19 GMT 1, Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection. Thanks all for comments and PMs. Cheers, Uncle
Slap that into you โgrossโ!
Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection. Thanks all for comments and PMs. Cheers, Uncle Slap that into you โgrossโ! |
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Patrick 01
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Patrick 01 on Nov 25, 2020 22:02:10 GMT 1, Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection. Thanks all for comments and PMs. Cheers, Uncle
Good work!
Iโm very pleased to say this piece is now sold pending collection. Thanks all for comments and PMs. Cheers, Uncle Good work! |
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by needfoolthings on Nov 26, 2020 0:58:40 GMT 1, This was a steal and thatโs why it sold so damn quick!
This was a steal and thatโs why it sold so damn quick!
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by LJCal on Nov 26, 2020 1:57:52 GMT 1, ยฃ55k is a fair price, if the buyer paid less they did well.
ยฃ55k is a fair price, if the buyer paid less they did well.
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Dice
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Dice on Nov 26, 2020 11:17:16 GMT 1, A dealer would pass that on for 55-60k easy, in fact it was probably presold.
A dealer would pass that on for 55-60k easy, in fact it was probably presold.
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Banksy โข Sale Ends Today, by Moniker Projects on Jan 14, 2021 15:11:27 GMT 1, 
Banksy
Sale Ends V2
2017
Screenprint on wove paper
57cm x 76.5cm
Edition of 500
Signed and numbered by the artist
ยฃ65,000
Pest Control in hand, UK-based. Excellent condition, stored flat and never framed. DM or email graeme@monikerprojects.com for more information.
www.monikerprojects.com
Banksy Sale Ends V2 2017 Screenprint on wove paper 57cm x 76.5cm Edition of 500 Signed and numbered by the artist ยฃ65,000 Pest Control in hand, UK-based. Excellent condition, stored flat and never framed. DM or email graeme@monikerprojects.com for more information. www.monikerprojects.com |
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