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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by barsukauk on Feb 7, 2018 9:05:05 GMT 1, In 2019 when the get COA Will be lost on ebay.
In 2019 when the get COA Will be lost on ebay.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by brycepen on Feb 7, 2018 9:35:28 GMT 1, This thread has done nothing for me except make me thank God I don’t have any kids. I’ve had some hard times myself and selling some of my favorite prints has been something I’ve considered, but have been fortunate enough to avoid doing out of necessity. If i had the insane luck of scoring an original banksy from POW, I would be GUTTED if I had to sell it for the best interests of my family and children. Have some sympathy people. If you had kids you wouldn't give a sh!t if you had to sell pretty paper for their best interest.ORthank God you don't have kids.Disclaimer: there is no god - just quoting the poster to make a point.
Um yeah, that was kinda my point. Which is why I suggested others should maybe be a little more understanding of why the op is choosing to sell. Obviously the well being of his kids and family come first you imbecile.
Edit: ah, and apparently you’re also a judgmental atheist. That explains a lot
This thread has done nothing for me except make me thank God I don’t have any kids. I’ve had some hard times myself and selling some of my favorite prints has been something I’ve considered, but have been fortunate enough to avoid doing out of necessity. If i had the insane luck of scoring an original banksy from POW, I would be GUTTED if I had to sell it for the best interests of my family and children. Have some sympathy people. If you had kids you wouldn't give a sh!t if you had to sell pretty paper for their best interest.ORthank God you don't have kids.Disclaimer: there is no god - just quoting the poster to make a point.Um yeah, that was kinda my point. Which is why I suggested others should maybe be a little more understanding of why the op is choosing to sell. Obviously the well being of his kids and family come first you imbecile. Edit: ah, and apparently you’re also a judgmental atheist. That explains a lot
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by akilla on Feb 7, 2018 11:07:00 GMT 1, Anyone who thinks all 500 were sold are living in a beautiful bubble. if they did release all 500 it would have flooded the market - banksy knows what he is doing. I think the amount you see on ebay is testament to how many are actually out there. Its a guess but i think less than 200-300 were sold in november. My thoughts too that all 500 were not released Would definitely see a few more for sale. A placement in a high end auction with a high sale will start the frenzy next year. If they were honest it would have a negative effect on the print market But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not.
Anyone who thinks all 500 were sold are living in a beautiful bubble. if they did release all 500 it would have flooded the market - banksy knows what he is doing. I think the amount you see on ebay is testament to how many are actually out there. Its a guess but i think less than 200-300 were sold in november. My thoughts too that all 500 were not released Would definitely see a few more for sale. A placement in a high end auction with a high sale will start the frenzy next year. If they were honest it would have a negative effect on the print market But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Happy Shopper on Feb 7, 2018 11:27:29 GMT 1, Anyone who thinks all 500 were sold are living in a beautiful bubble. if they did release all 500 it would have flooded the market - banksy knows what he is doing. I think the amount you see on ebay is testament to how many are actually out there. I think I agree with you. 500 is one of his biggest signed editions, and yet we've seen few for sale. It doesn't quite make sense. We know what usually happens with ANY popular release.
I assume many were gifted or sold to good clients, staff, artists, etc.
But the same happened with the CYW lottery editions. They seem to be the rarest to appear... but we don't know if it's a dodgy system, or whether they just went to good homes!?
Anyone who thinks all 500 were sold are living in a beautiful bubble. if they did release all 500 it would have flooded the market - banksy knows what he is doing. I think the amount you see on ebay is testament to how many are actually out there. I think I agree with you. 500 is one of his biggest signed editions, and yet we've seen few for sale. It doesn't quite make sense. We know what usually happens with ANY popular release. I assume many were gifted or sold to good clients, staff, artists, etc. But the same happened with the CYW lottery editions. They seem to be the rarest to appear... but we don't know if it's a dodgy system, or whether they just went to good homes!?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by mrbagel on Feb 7, 2018 11:34:49 GMT 1, It's a bit vague because obviously the release was supposed to be an extension of the original LA release in 2006, where they were also numbered out of 500, but only 100 were officially released unsigned.
Signed 2006 versions in low edition numbers (and some A/Ps) have also been seen, but weren't actually released.
This could mean that actually there are up to 400/500 signed and 100/500 unsigned. The problem with any of these things is that you can never account for all of them. The likelihood in any of the editions is that there are less around than the number might suggest.
If we look at just edition numbers, Stop and Search might be one of the closest with an edition of 500, all signed. One of these went at Bonhams for £31,250 but that was in 2016 for a 2007 image. Over time there are less examples available. But Sale Ends also has some heritage in being the only release in almost a decade and quite possibly the last after the closure of POW.
Who knows, eh?
It's a bit vague because obviously the release was supposed to be an extension of the original LA release in 2006, where they were also numbered out of 500, but only 100 were officially released unsigned. Signed 2006 versions in low edition numbers (and some A/Ps) have also been seen, but weren't actually released. This could mean that actually there are up to 400/500 signed and 100/500 unsigned. The problem with any of these things is that you can never account for all of them. The likelihood in any of the editions is that there are less around than the number might suggest. If we look at just edition numbers, Stop and Search might be one of the closest with an edition of 500, all signed. One of these went at Bonhams for £31,250 but that was in 2016 for a 2007 image. Over time there are less examples available. But Sale Ends also has some heritage in being the only release in almost a decade and quite possibly the last after the closure of POW. Who knows, eh?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 7, 2018 12:17:20 GMT 1, My thoughts too that all 500 were not released Would definitely see a few more for sale. A placement in a high end auction with a high sale will start the frenzy next year. If they were honest it would have a negative effect on the print market But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not.
The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week
My thoughts too that all 500 were not released Would definitely see a few more for sale. A placement in a high end auction with a high sale will start the frenzy next year. If they were honest it would have a negative effect on the print market But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not. The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Feb 7, 2018 12:21:22 GMT 1, But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not. The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week
Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you
But didn't POW state that all 500 were being released in the lottery? Maybe I'm wrong. Conservatively how much do people reckon these prints would fetch with coa? I can't tell if the price(s) being thrown around this thread are bargains or not. The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 7, 2018 12:29:59 GMT 1, The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you
Make me one to match yours 😉
Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ?
All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints
No body knows what’s next
The first to show up at auction would be shill bid by pow / banksy team So maybe £35k then as usual every one will price the same and higher each week Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you Make me one to match yours 😉 Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ? All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints No body knows what’s next
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 12:52:08 GMT 1, Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you Make me one to match yours 😉 Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ? All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints No body knows what’s next
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ?
Keep wearing the tin foil hat it suits you Make me one to match yours 😉 Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ? All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints No body knows what’s next
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Dive Jedi on Feb 7, 2018 13:04:02 GMT 1, If you had kids you wouldn't give a sh!t if you had to sell pretty paper for their best interest.ORthank God you don't have kids.Disclaimer: there is no god - just quoting the poster to make a point. Um yeah, that was kinda my point. Which is why I suggested others should maybe be a little more understanding of why the op is choosing to sell. Obviously the well being of his kids and family come first you imbecile. Edit: ah, and apparently you’re also a judgmental atheist. That explains a lot Thank God you don't have any kids.
If you had kids you wouldn't give a sh!t if you had to sell pretty paper for their best interest.ORthank God you don't have kids.Disclaimer: there is no god - just quoting the poster to make a point. Um yeah, that was kinda my point. Which is why I suggested others should maybe be a little more understanding of why the op is choosing to sell. Obviously the well being of his kids and family come first you imbecile. Edit: ah, and apparently you’re also a judgmental atheist. That explains a lot Thank God you don't have any kids.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Larry David on Feb 7, 2018 14:22:01 GMT 1, 500 - 16000, that's some profit (minus a serious chunk of tax)! FWIW I think 16k is a strong offer. Sure, 16k won't change your life, but if nothing else itl pay for a good holiday! I suspect this is the first of many similar threads for these prints. Solid provenance should be good enough for most, but think the coa's will help increase the value of these in time. Can I go on holiday with you
500 - 16000, that's some profit (minus a serious chunk of tax)! FWIW I think 16k is a strong offer. Sure, 16k won't change your life, but if nothing else itl pay for a good holiday! I suspect this is the first of many similar threads for these prints. Solid provenance should be good enough for most, but think the coa's will help increase the value of these in time. Can I go on holiday with you
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 7, 2018 14:23:43 GMT 1, 500 - 16000, that's some profit (minus a serious chunk of tax)! FWIW I think 16k is a strong offer. Sure, 16k won't change your life, but if nothing else itl pay for a good holiday! I suspect this is the first of many similar threads for these prints. Solid provenance should be good enough for most, but think the coa's will help increase the value of these in time. Can I go on holiday with you
Will let you know when I'm going 😁
500 - 16000, that's some profit (minus a serious chunk of tax)! FWIW I think 16k is a strong offer. Sure, 16k won't change your life, but if nothing else itl pay for a good holiday! I suspect this is the first of many similar threads for these prints. Solid provenance should be good enough for most, but think the coa's will help increase the value of these in time. Can I go on holiday with you Will let you know when I'm going 😁
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 7, 2018 17:24:13 GMT 1, Make me one to match yours 😉 Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ? All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints No body knows what’s next
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ?
By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way .
The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts .
If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000
When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices.
Make me one to match yours 😉 Well known that artists pump their own pieces in global auctions Best pr Out of all the years to release , why now ? All for sky high prices , as I have a few banksy prints No body knows what’s next
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ? By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 17:40:30 GMT 1,
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ? By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ? By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by agu on Feb 7, 2018 18:12:58 GMT 1, By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
I salute you naivety and whole heartedly join you. I like to believe Banksy is not just about the money. I like the art. .. It makes me happy.
By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
I salute you naivety and whole heartedly join you. I like to believe Banksy is not just about the money. I like the art. .. It makes me happy.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 7, 2018 18:41:30 GMT 1, By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
Have to invest money to make money
Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑
This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly.
Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎
By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
Have to invest money to make money Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑 This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly. Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 19:24:46 GMT 1, thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
Have to invest money to make money Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑 This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly. Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎 just checking I have got this right, him and his team (possibly including mr brainwash) are doing all of this stuff just to increase the selling price of his work and when they release all of the "old" stuff they have kept for years they will cash in. All of that whilst not forgetting the increase in sale price of a VIP print ?
thanks for reply.
Personally I think he could release a print regularly and it would likely sell out ASAP and still go for silly money on the secondary market and none of this would have an effect on VIP release price or desirability.
I honestly think if he / his team were purely interested in getting his prices up ergo make money that they wouldn't be shelling out on a Dismaland or a hotel but as I said I am probably naïve
Have to invest money to make money Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑 This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly. Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎 just checking I have got this right, him and his team (possibly including mr brainwash) are doing all of this stuff just to increase the selling price of his work and when they release all of the "old" stuff they have kept for years they will cash in. All of that whilst not forgetting the increase in sale price of a VIP print ?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 7, 2018 20:38:12 GMT 1, Have to invest money to make money Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑 This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly. Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎 just checking I have got this right, him and his team (possibly including mr brainwash) are doing all of this stuff just to increase the selling price of his work and when they release all of the "old" stuff they have kept for years they will cash in. All of that whilst not forgetting the increase in sale price of a VIP print ?
Banksy is an artist He does this for his enjoyment and living i guess Fab job if you can get It’s the people around the artists , the advisors and pr manager that advise and negotiate behind the scenes. It’s a business and brand now . It’s not about cashing in, high prices keep the interest Not everyone buys banksy because they love the image
Answer your question people around the artist not the artist direct
Have to invest money to make money Dismaland supported by arts grant , ticket sales and merchandise sales help cover costs Hotel , pays for itself now with bookings. Both caused massive discussion and a great media coverage spreading internationally So worth forking out for .just to break Russian and Asian market 🤑 This helps His work reach new markets , and with out all these background elements his work would not continue to gain value constantly. Plus probably has a share or silent partner in mr brainwash , so revenue from that per month adds up All old canvases and new work stored away Definitely not short of cash😎 just checking I have got this right, him and his team (possibly including mr brainwash) are doing all of this stuff just to increase the selling price of his work and when they release all of the "old" stuff they have kept for years they will cash in. All of that whilst not forgetting the increase in sale price of a VIP print ?
Banksy is an artist He does this for his enjoyment and living i guess Fab job if you can get It’s the people around the artists , the advisors and pr manager that advise and negotiate behind the scenes. It’s a business and brand now . It’s not about cashing in, high prices keep the interest Not everyone buys banksy because they love the image Answer your question people around the artist not the artist direct
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by rparducci on Feb 8, 2018 8:38:23 GMT 1,
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ? By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices.
LOL , you think Banksy couldn't charge £40.000 now for a signed edt.100 print run??
I asked this before and im probably being totally naïve, but why would the "Banksy team" whomever the fck they are, shill bid their own prints that POW sold for significantlty less than what they could have released them for ?
I dont see what they stand to gain on secondary market prices being high; they could've got far more than they get for AR at auction by selling Sale Ends at a higher price and i would guess they can charge what they want for commissions so i just dont get why they would want to bump secondary prices up ? By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. LOL , you think Banksy couldn't charge £40.000 now for a signed edt.100 print run??
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by tab1 on Feb 8, 2018 12:08:48 GMT 1, By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. LOL , you think Banksy couldn't charge £40.000 now for a signed edt.100 print run??
He could charge £100000 , people that buy at those amounts buy in and feel safer when they instantly sell out on the release, when sales start to stagger buyers become Hesitant , happens with many artists and even in early days of banksy.
Edt 100 yes not edt 500
Many buyers that hold prints for example at £40000 now They bought from release or a few years back when selling at £15000 etc so would not necessarily buy back in when sold.
Each level prints increase reaches new type of buyer and amounts of buyers at higher levels become smaller as still a risk spending £40000 ,nothings guareented to hold value and not everyone can afford to lose that amount if the bubble bursts just good fortune the market is as is . The buyers at this level are investments and minimum want to get initial purchase price back if sold .
By gaining x amount in a year would effect the whole banksy market in a positive way . The media would interpret 500 prints released for £500 and sell within a year for example £40000 , easy pr , attract new buyers and potentially could release more prints later on at a higher amounts . If they released all prints for say secondary value at say £18000 and they all failed to sell or took a long time to sell out would add caution to the secondary market . Without the secondary market high prices would not be able to release vip prints for £25-£40000 When old previous prints sell there is no more than 3 at a time of the same print in a month for sale hence the crazy demand and prices. LOL , you think Banksy couldn't charge £40.000 now for a signed edt.100 print run?? He could charge £100000 , people that buy at those amounts buy in and feel safer when they instantly sell out on the release, when sales start to stagger buyers become Hesitant , happens with many artists and even in early days of banksy. Edt 100 yes not edt 500 Many buyers that hold prints for example at £40000 now They bought from release or a few years back when selling at £15000 etc so would not necessarily buy back in when sold. Each level prints increase reaches new type of buyer and amounts of buyers at higher levels become smaller as still a risk spending £40000 ,nothings guareented to hold value and not everyone can afford to lose that amount if the bubble bursts just good fortune the market is as is . The buyers at this level are investments and minimum want to get initial purchase price back if sold .
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Lunch Special on Feb 14, 2018 22:00:08 GMT 1, Interested in owning the latest Banksy release?
Well im intrested in owning a signed laugh now with pc coa
Thats all folks.
Thanks
LS
Interested in owning the latest Banksy release?
Well im intrested in owning a signed laugh now with pc coa
Thats all folks.
Thanks
LS
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by mrbagel on Feb 14, 2018 22:56:08 GMT 1, Ah beat me to it! I've been contemplating a trade post for a while. Love mine but there are Banksys I love even more. Keen to see what pops up here. Good luck!
Ah beat me to it! I've been contemplating a trade post for a while. Love mine but there are Banksys I love even more. Keen to see what pops up here. Good luck!
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by irl1 on Feb 14, 2018 22:57:54 GMT 1, That's what Bugs Bunny said If you are selling one make sure your well strapped in your seat, as it will be a bumpy trip for you. Good luck here your going to need it.
That's what Bugs Bunny said If you are selling one make sure your well strapped in your seat, as it will be a bumpy trip for you. Good luck here your going to need it.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Dexter Bulldog on Feb 15, 2018 2:13:04 GMT 1, Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now?
Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now?
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by nex on Feb 15, 2018 2:40:42 GMT 1, Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now?
At this moment in time (without a coa) I’d tend to agree. No harm in asking and seeing what someone with a laugh Now would be willing to do trade wise.
Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now? At this moment in time (without a coa) I’d tend to agree. No harm in asking and seeing what someone with a laugh Now would be willing to do trade wise.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by jB on Feb 15, 2018 4:09:15 GMT 1, Interested in owning the latest Banksy release? Well im intrested in owning a signed laugh now with pc coa Thats all folks. Thanks LS Perhaps there is cash on top of the trade? Always have loved the LN imagery...particularly now with the POtUS
Best of luck in the search.
Interested in owning the latest Banksy release? Well im intrested in owning a signed laugh now with pc coa Thats all folks. Thanks LS Perhaps there is cash on top of the trade? Always have loved the LN imagery...particularly now with the POtUS Best of luck in the search.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by WOOF on Feb 15, 2018 5:36:09 GMT 1, Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now? At this moment in time (without a coa) I’d tend to agree. No harm in asking and seeing what someone with a laugh Now would be willing to do trade wise. IMO, when SE2 gets a COA, it still won't be even close to a signed LN.
Just checking, did I miss something? These aren’t even close to being in the same ballpark correct? Wouldn’t you need to trade 2 sale ends for a signed laugh now? At this moment in time (without a coa) I’d tend to agree. No harm in asking and seeing what someone with a laugh Now would be willing to do trade wise. IMO, when SE2 gets a COA, it still won't be even close to a signed LN.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Unica on Feb 15, 2018 8:16:08 GMT 1, I would consider a trade for my unsigned mint flat Laugh Now with a COA for a Sales End without a COA. I would obviously be taking a risk as it may not get a COA down the line and for that risk I would have potential upside it it did although i'm not sure how much they will trade for with COA, definitely not in NOLA territory. You would have traded a £500 print for a Laugh Now that trades between £10-14k with iron clad authenticity with Pest Control. I'll be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this trade, if its nuts let me know. Prescription art are offering a mint one for £17.5k unsigned, IMO Laugh Now its one of his top three prints with GWB and LIITA. Let me know if its madness.
I would consider a trade for my unsigned mint flat Laugh Now with a COA for a Sales End without a COA. I would obviously be taking a risk as it may not get a COA down the line and for that risk I would have potential upside it it did although i'm not sure how much they will trade for with COA, definitely not in NOLA territory. You would have traded a £500 print for a Laugh Now that trades between £10-14k with iron clad authenticity with Pest Control. I'll be interested to hear peoples thoughts on this trade, if its nuts let me know. Prescription art are offering a mint one for £17.5k unsigned, IMO Laugh Now its one of his top three prints with GWB and LIITA. Let me know if its madness.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by iamzero on Feb 15, 2018 8:25:41 GMT 1, Its highly amusing to see all this talk about value and image desirability when I think back to the same talk in my earlier days on here. Flags and Donuts along with Applause were considered low images... not anymore. The future prices of any signed Banksy are always going to far outweigh the unsigned stuff.
Its highly amusing to see all this talk about value and image desirability when I think back to the same talk in my earlier days on here. Flags and Donuts along with Applause were considered low images... not anymore. The future prices of any signed Banksy are always going to far outweigh the unsigned stuff.
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Banksy • Sale Ends Today, by Unica on Feb 15, 2018 8:49:50 GMT 1, Its inevitable to have discussion regarding desirability when Banksy prints can changes hand between 10-100k. IMO i'd still consider Applause and Donuts low images but not low priced anymore.
Its inevitable to have discussion regarding desirability when Banksy prints can changes hand between 10-100k. IMO i'd still consider Applause and Donuts low images but not low priced anymore.
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