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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Coach on Dec 23, 2017 13:50:11 GMT 1, I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture"
Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it.
I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture" Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 14:02:53 GMT 1, Sell what you want whetever you want but dont be surprised if you get backlash from members of an art related forum (many of whom would have liked this poster at cost) for flipping.
Sell what you want whetever you want but dont be surprised if you get backlash from members of an art related forum (many of whom would have liked this poster at cost) for flipping.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 14:35:52 GMT 1, I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture" Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it.
So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it?
I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture" Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it?
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Jaylove on Dec 23, 2017 15:17:40 GMT 1, I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture" Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. Give it a bit more time and flipping on release day will be accepted here. It is inevitable as more people get into the game. I don't mind paying a bit extra on something I missed out on but 3 to 4x+ a week later is ridiculous.
How can we even determine real market value when the value is being artificially propped up by a small group of people? Galleries buy here then flip on their sites or eBay for much more. Rarely are they selling to actual fans. They're selling to other people that are trying to make an investment. IMO fans don't really care all too much about the investment. Just my 2 cents
I don't get it either. Why can't people sell what they want when they want at market price? Yes, I missed the boat on the soup cans, but it is still within reach price wise. Buy it if you want to pay £400 for it or move on. And why doesn't the guy who had tucked away Jack & Jill away for a decade and made £10k gets any heat? Clearly he had plenty of time to figure out if he wanted to frame it or not. But all people like him gets is "GLWTS" & "Beautiful picture" Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. Give it a bit more time and flipping on release day will be accepted here. It is inevitable as more people get into the game. I don't mind paying a bit extra on something I missed out on but 3 to 4x+ a week later is ridiculous. How can we even determine real market value when the value is being artificially propped up by a small group of people? Galleries buy here then flip on their sites or eBay for much more. Rarely are they selling to actual fans. They're selling to other people that are trying to make an investment. IMO fans don't really care all too much about the investment. Just my 2 cents
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by blerd on Dec 23, 2017 15:25:22 GMT 1, Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it? For me, its never the nicest feeling when you've waited all year for a drop from an artist that you love, you miss out, then someone that never wanted it attempts to flip it to you at 3 x the cost (sometimes minutes) later.
Having said that I love the free and unregulated market that Art operates in. I see nothing wrong from selling works at a profit.
Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it? For me, its never the nicest feeling when you've waited all year for a drop from an artist that you love, you miss out, then someone that never wanted it attempts to flip it to you at 3 x the cost (sometimes minutes) later. Having said that I love the free and unregulated market that Art operates in. I see nothing wrong from selling works at a profit.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by oxfordwelshchap on Dec 23, 2017 15:42:32 GMT 1, Amazing the amount temper taintrums on here. There should be an age limit before being allowed join the forum. Amazing the amount of sharks that love to justify others profiting from members with back slaps and whoops on a nice 1000% mark up. Nobody gives a shit that some dude has just flipped a worthless poster to some schmuk who wants to pay 400 quid for one. The vested interest in all this is a circus in itself but enjoyable to watch none the less.
Amazing the amount temper taintrums on here. There should be an age limit before being allowed join the forum. Amazing the amount of sharks that love to justify others profiting from members with back slaps and whoops on a nice 1000% mark up. Nobody gives a shit that some dude has just flipped a worthless poster to some schmuk who wants to pay 400 quid for one. The vested interest in all this is a circus in itself but enjoyable to watch none the less.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Coach on Dec 23, 2017 15:49:11 GMT 1, Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it?
I didn’t really want to get in to a long debate about this, as it causes so much disharmony; though did want to reply to jay4077’s comment. EKAP, I do think that there is a difference. It has to do with the intention when buying. It’s for this reason that there are sometimes perfectly ethical reasons for selling on immediately.
Flipping is making money out of another person’s artistic endeavour. Those that dislike it usually do not suggest the owner can’t sell what they own, merely that out of respect to the community the flipper should take it to Ebay, rather than flaunt their flip in front of those on here that missed out. This is my opinion. It has been the general concesus on this forum for the decade I’ve been here, though I concede less so these days. More recently it seems that less members share this view, and it is quite possible that flipping will become perfectly acceptable here. If that is the general opinion, so be it. So taking the example above, the banksy that has been sat in a folder as an investment and then sold for many multiples of cost is exactly that isn’t it? I didn’t really want to get in to a long debate about this, as it causes so much disharmony; though did want to reply to jay4077’s comment. EKAP, I do think that there is a difference. It has to do with the intention when buying. It’s for this reason that there are sometimes perfectly ethical reasons for selling on immediately.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Art Fan 2011 on Dec 23, 2017 15:53:43 GMT 1, WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit.
Americans
WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit. Americans
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by maven on Dec 23, 2017 15:57:16 GMT 1, If you sell immediately...you never wanted it in the first place! Don't buy it and let someone have it that wants it for their wall...
If you sell immediately...you never wanted it in the first place! Don't buy it and let someone have it that wants it for their wall...
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 16:04:51 GMT 1, WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit. Americans More a byproduct of a capitalist mindset than nationaliity.. the term “flipper” sure seems to be fairly prevalent on this UK dominant forum...no?
WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit. Americans More a byproduct of a capitalist mindset than nationaliity.. the term “flipper” sure seems to be fairly prevalent on this UK dominant forum...no?
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Pysgod on Dec 23, 2017 16:11:02 GMT 1, It is all about respect.
and that went out the window when the yanks turned up
It is all about respect.
and that went out the window when the yanks turned up
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 23, 2017 16:37:10 GMT 1, WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit. Americans
Conviently leave this out! Haha
In the United Kingdom the term is used to describe a technique whereby Members of Parliament were found to be switching their second home between several houses, which had the effect of allowing them to maximize their taxpayer funded allowances.[1]
WIKI - Flipping is a term used primarily in the United States to describe purchasing a revenue-generating asset and quickly reselling (or "flipping") it for profit. Americans Conviently leave this out! Haha In the United Kingdom the term is used to describe a technique whereby Members of Parliament were found to be switching their second home between several houses, which had the effect of allowing them to maximize their taxpayer funded allowances.[1]
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by sl on Dec 23, 2017 17:14:07 GMT 1, The only difference between a flipper and a collector is time and the right offer.
Ps-I miss our a lot so end up buying from flippers. It is an invonvience fee that I have to pay if I want it. I don’t like it but deal with it.
Happy Christmas to all.
The only difference between a flipper and a collector is time and the right offer.
Ps-I miss our a lot so end up buying from flippers. It is an invonvience fee that I have to pay if I want it. I don’t like it but deal with it.
Happy Christmas to all.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Masong on Dec 23, 2017 17:38:40 GMT 1, So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped?
So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped?
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by ToonKiller on Dec 23, 2017 18:59:23 GMT 1, I find it's best to not try to figure out the rules of the participation trophy generation
I find it's best to not try to figure out the rules of the participation trophy generation
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Art Fan 2011 on Dec 23, 2017 19:36:02 GMT 1, So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped? If you buy with the intention of selling to make a profit, then that by definition is a "flip" - irrelevant of what you are buying/selling - Time-frames and numbers are not what matters
So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped? If you buy with the intention of selling to make a profit, then that by definition is a "flip" - irrelevant of what you are buying/selling - Time-frames and numbers are not what matters
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Masong on Dec 23, 2017 19:52:47 GMT 1, So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped? If you buy with the intention of selling to make a profit, then that by definition is a "flip" - irrelevant of what you are buying/selling - Time-frames and numbers are not what matters
It’s only seen as a flip if it’s something that you would want to own yourself. I’m not in to trainers but others collect them. If somebody told me I could walk into a shop or purchase online a pair of trainers that would be worth 10x the purchase price I would try to buy them not because in my eyes I’m a flipper but because I live in the real world and that money could help me out. Of course to a collector I’d be flipping scum.. Where there’s money to be made people will want to make it. My issue is when people flaunt it on said collectors forums. I’ve never actually flipped a print but I have tried to purchase prints before because I know they are desirable and will be worth more than I’ve paid further down the line. Does that make me a flipper?
So if I’m offered a Sale Ends from the recent release tomorrow for £10000 and I sell it the next day for £15000 am I still a flipper or just somebody with common sense? Does it become an investment as it’s already been flipped? If you buy with the intention of selling to make a profit, then that by definition is a "flip" - irrelevant of what you are buying/selling - Time-frames and numbers are not what matters It’s only seen as a flip if it’s something that you would want to own yourself. I’m not in to trainers but others collect them. If somebody told me I could walk into a shop or purchase online a pair of trainers that would be worth 10x the purchase price I would try to buy them not because in my eyes I’m a flipper but because I live in the real world and that money could help me out. Of course to a collector I’d be flipping scum.. Where there’s money to be made people will want to make it. My issue is when people flaunt it on said collectors forums. I’ve never actually flipped a print but I have tried to purchase prints before because I know they are desirable and will be worth more than I’ve paid further down the line. Does that make me a flipper?
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Laugh Now 10 on Jan 7, 2018 0:50:48 GMT 1, Dear UAA, I’m looking to trade my Banksy Soup Can Poster (beautifully framed) + $ TBD for your BLU print (not “Funeral” as I got a lucky one on the last POW drop from a few days back). Believe it or not, I purchased my Banksy poster 4+ years ago (prior to the 2017 drop hysteria) and I’d like to put it towards something by BLU. Details negotiable. I’ve always loved seeing the massive BLU mural around the corner from the massive OS GEMEOS mural in Lisbon....
Please PM me with what BLU print(s) you have. A local deal to So. Ca. would be preferable but I’m curious as to what’s out there. Cheers.
Dear UAA, I’m looking to trade my Banksy Soup Can Poster (beautifully framed) + $ TBD for your BLU print (not “Funeral” as I got a lucky one on the last POW drop from a few days back). Believe it or not, I purchased my Banksy poster 4+ years ago (prior to the 2017 drop hysteria) and I’d like to put it towards something by BLU. Details negotiable. I’ve always loved seeing the massive BLU mural around the corner from the massive OS GEMEOS mural in Lisbon.... Please PM me with what BLU print(s) you have. A local deal to So. Ca. would be preferable but I’m curious as to what’s out there. Cheers.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Aubrey 245 on Jan 7, 2018 1:19:37 GMT 1, beautiful framing job!
beautiful framing job!
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by SNIKY on Jan 7, 2018 15:37:20 GMT 1, That black outer line and white frame did its job
That black outer line and white frame did its job
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by greeceboy on Jan 7, 2018 16:11:20 GMT 1, wow how wonder ful this looks
wow how wonder ful this looks
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by greeceboy on Jan 7, 2018 17:24:58 GMT 1, Friends look how I frame mine and comment please
Friends look how I frame mine and comment please
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Laugh Now 10 on Jan 7, 2018 18:18:37 GMT 1, Friends look how I frame mine and comment please
Thank you for your nice comment on my thread but please post your own picture on your own thread? Ok? Yes.
Friends look how I frame mine and comment please Thank you for your nice comment on my thread but please post your own picture on your own thread? Ok? Yes.
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by RBK on Jan 10, 2018 18:18:26 GMT 1, Cannot believe it has come to this..
Looking to Buy a MINT - Banksy Soup Can Poster for a reasonable price. I live in the US. It will also gasp.. be framed up and put on the wall if that appeals to your sensibilities.
Please PM me your best price inclusive of shipping to the US. I will not disclose your identity - you flipper you
Cannot believe it has come to this.. Looking to Buy a MINT - Banksy Soup Can Poster for a reasonable price. I live in the US. It will also gasp.. be framed up and put on the wall if that appeals to your sensibilities. Please PM me your best price inclusive of shipping to the US. I will not disclose your identity - you flipper you
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Aubrey 245 on Jan 10, 2018 18:26:54 GMT 1, Why flipper? I'm sure everybody on here bought it in 2006 .. Not selling mine, but good luck to you!
Why flipper? I'm sure everybody on here bought it in 2006 .. Not selling mine, but good luck to you!
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by sugar on Jan 11, 2018 11:14:30 GMT 1, I´m looking too!
I´m looking too!
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Bruno Art 99 on Jan 18, 2018 13:01:48 GMT 1, Need to give us some idea of figure please
Need to give us some idea of figure please
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Banksy • Soup Cans Poster, by Aubrey 245 on Jan 18, 2018 13:11:07 GMT 1, What are these going for these days?
What are these going for these days?
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