jay4077
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jay4077 on Sept 9, 2018 12:01:15 GMT 1, So you have your own estimate bracket that are below your starting price. So in order to buy that lot you'll have to pay more than you think is the market value.
So you have your own estimate bracket that are below your starting price. So in order to buy that lot you'll have to pay more than you think is the market value. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 9, 2018 13:22:47 GMT 1, The estimate is 18-20k on this piece the starting bid should be ยฃ18k not ยฃ20k. I will raise this with Invaluable first thing Monday and resolve the situation.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention. There are some changes that need to be made thatโs why I hadnโt publicised the links to the sales.
The estimate is 18-20k on this piece the starting bid should be ยฃ18k not ยฃ20k. I will raise this with Invaluable first thing Monday and resolve the situation.
Thank you for bringing it to our attention. There are some changes that need to be made thatโs why I hadnโt publicised the links to the sales.
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ARN
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by ARN on Sept 9, 2018 14:47:04 GMT 1, Some interesting stuff on both catalogues!
Some interesting stuff on both catalogues!
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jay4077
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jay4077 on Sept 9, 2018 16:39:02 GMT 1, Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least ยฃ20k anyway...
Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least ยฃ20k anyway...
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aravan
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by aravan on Sept 9, 2018 16:53:40 GMT 1, Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least ยฃ20k anyway...
Depends on the data pull from the Chiswick database...but from experience of working with invaluable thisโll just mean the vendor nets minimum 20ยฃk. Minimum successful bid canโt be above the low estimate otherwise this lot would be an auditors dream.
Okay, but I suspect the reserve price is at least ยฃ20k anyway... Depends on the data pull from the Chiswick database...but from experience of working with invaluable thisโll just mean the vendor nets minimum 20ยฃk. Minimum successful bid canโt be above the low estimate otherwise this lot would be an auditors dream. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 9, 2018 17:44:15 GMT 1, The reserve cannot be above the low estimate there may have been a typo when entering the estimate/reserve on this lot. Iโll investigate and rectify this ASAP.
The reserve cannot be above the low estimate there may have been a typo when entering the estimate/reserve on this lot. Iโll investigate and rectify this ASAP.
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Shoot Again
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Sept 11, 2018 9:47:25 GMT 1, Clearly the UrbanArt market is not in shortage of "stuff" to sell !!! ;-)
Clearly the UrbanArt market is not in shortage of "stuff" to sell !!! ;-)
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JL Broooks
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by JL Broooks on Sept 11, 2018 10:49:18 GMT 1, I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
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Matt
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Matt on Sept 11, 2018 10:55:28 GMT 1, I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures..
If they were APs / PPs I would have expected a POW blindstamp nonetheless
Anyone thinking to bid would do well sending a few pics to Orbi just to check.
If they are legit the estimate on Ohh Alright is enticing to say the least
I see the Invader Aladdin Sane and 'Oohh alright' are "Outside the edition". What does this mean? APs / PPs? Cant see the numbering on the pictures.. If they were APs / PPs I would have expected a POW blindstamp nonetheless Anyone thinking to bid would do well sending a few pics to Orbi just to check. If they are legit the estimate on Ohh Alright is enticing to say the least |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 11:48:24 GMT 1, These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above.
We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weโre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with.
If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iโll be happy to help.
These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above.
We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weโre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with.
If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iโll be happy to help.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:37:28 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil!
Strong provenance for that one?
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil!
Strong provenance for that one?
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:49:24 GMT 1, These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above. We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weโre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with. If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iโll be happy to help. Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management?
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself.
These prints were all gifted to an ex POW employee. Their information will not be shared publicly winning bidders will be given a letter confirming the above. We hold all consigners to the highest standards of provenance. We only accept work if weโre completely satisfied with the provenance it comes with. If anyone has any questions on these or any other works please ask and Iโll be happy to help. Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:52:27 GMT 1, Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself.
Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed?
Who wrote the letter confirming the gifting, the ex employee or POW management? The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed? |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:53:39 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one?
The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March.
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 12:56:15 GMT 1, The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed?
They are 100% an ex POW employee.
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Did they prove to you they were an employee... Or is it someone well known enough that no info was needed? They are 100% an ex POW employee. |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 12:57:06 GMT 1, That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March.
Sounds good, but is there pictures of this placard at the march?
That "Wrong War" placard looks to be missing a lot of detail in the stencil! Strong provenance for that one? The consigner was covering the March on behalf of a magazine we have copies of his press pass the magazine detailing his involvement. A portfolio of photographs taken by him documenting the March. Sounds good, but is there pictures of this placard at the march? |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 13:14:32 GMT 1, The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iโve not looked through all the photos online but I havenโt seen a photo of this exact one.
The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iโve not looked through all the photos online but I havenโt seen a photo of this exact one.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 13:41:50 GMT 1, The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iโve not looked through all the photos online but I havenโt seen a photo of this exact one.
I'm just curious, because the stencil looks to be a little different/basic in places to the similar one you sold previously.
Yellow appears to be under the black, rather than on top, etc...
Just looks too clean, but at the same time missing detail!
The consigner will also sign a letter detailing the provenance. Iโve not looked through all the photos online but I havenโt seen a photo of this exact one. I'm just curious, because the stencil looks to be a little different/basic in places to the similar one you sold previously. Yellow appears to be under the black, rather than on top, etc... Just looks too clean, but at the same time missing detail! |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Fะฏ on Sept 11, 2018 13:43:18 GMT 1, That one yours then JBot?
No, i don't put things into auction
That one yours then JBot? No, i don't put things into auction |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 14:47:07 GMT 1, The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Appreciate the reply but that doesn't prove the employee didn't take them without permission.
For your house to offer this form of provenance only after a bidder has won an item requires the bidder to gamble on the outcome.
The letter you, and indeed potential bidders truly need is one from senior management stating that the prints were gifted to the employee.
The employee. As with all works buyers must satisfy themselves with the provenance for any piece theyโre considering bidding on and bid accordingly. All these lots are clearly marked โoutside of the editionโ these works will be on view at Chiswick from this Saturday buyers are encouraged to come and view in person any lots theyโre considering. I will be there on Saturday myself. Appreciate the reply but that doesn't prove the employee didn't take them without permission.
For your house to offer this form of provenance only after a bidder has won an item requires the bidder to gamble on the outcome.
The letter you, and indeed potential bidders truly need is one from senior management stating that the prints were gifted to the employee.
If there is a problem with the provenance consigners are not paid for 28 days post sale so there is a window for a winning bidder to undertake any further work if they choose to do so. |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 15:57:53 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees.
If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action.
We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees.
If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action.
We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Happy Shopper on Sept 11, 2018 16:58:19 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns.
So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out!
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out! |
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daniel3886
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by daniel3886 on Sept 11, 2018 18:12:06 GMT 1, No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out!
Paragraph 2 and 3 cover your concern. I notice youโre referring to this buyer in the third person so youโre not actually planning to bid yourself?
We welcome any interest in works weโre selling and appreciate the opportunity to let the community know how we deal with works where coaโs are not issued/applicable.
No any bidder is entering a legally binding contract to purchase the lot at hammer plus all applicable fees. If new information comes to light post sale that alters our view of the provenance then that will be investigated and our bid department will take what it feels to be the appropriate and correct action. We are a business that cares about its reputation and will act accordingly at all times. I hope this addresses your concerns. So, if the buyer who can't see the provenance before hand, is unhappy when he does see it, then actually he can't have a refund or back out! Paragraph 2 and 3 cover your concern. I notice youโre referring to this buyer in the third person so youโre not actually planning to bid yourself? We welcome any interest in works weโre selling and appreciate the opportunity to let the community know how we deal with works where coaโs are not issued/applicable. |
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wave
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by wave on Sept 11, 2018 19:21:07 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in.
If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying?
Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in.
If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying?
Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
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irl1
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by irl1 on Sept 11, 2018 19:33:05 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning.
There is a few threads on this somewhere.
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere. |
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wave
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by wave on Sept 11, 2018 19:54:01 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere.
Thanks. So hammer price + 25% commission. Is that all inclusive of vat?
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? As a buyer it will be the hammer price plus their commission (normally about 20 to 25%, but check with the auction house) and the shipping, which can be very expensive, collect if you can. As a seller if you sell for 20k, its 20k less your sellers commission, again you will have to haggle with the auction house before you consign. They can also charge extras for catalogue fees etc, do check before consigning. There is a few threads on this somewhere. Thanks. So hammer price + 25% commission. Is that all inclusive of vat? |
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Chiswick โข Urban Art Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Sept 11, 2018 20:00:04 GMT 1, New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with?
Bought ยฃ20k
Buyers Fee @25% = ยฃ5,000
Vat on buyers fee @20% =ยฃ1,000
If you were Bidding using saleroom or similar add another 3% = ยฃ600
Vat @20% =ยฃ120
Artist resale . 4% = ยฃ800
So in answer the question I think if your winning bid was ยฃ20,000
Total payable would be between ยฃ26,800 and ยฃ27,520
someone else can do the seller bit as my kettle has boiled
New to auctions if anyone could pls fill me in. If was to bid 20k on the Donuts (as an example) and win with that bid, what would be the total price i would end up paying? Same goes for selling, if the hammer price is 20k. As a seller, what would i ultimately walk away with? Bought ยฃ20k Buyers Fee @25% = ยฃ5,000 Vat on buyers fee @20% =ยฃ1,000 If you were Bidding using saleroom or similar add another 3% = ยฃ600 Vat @20% =ยฃ120 Artist resale . 4% = ยฃ800 So in answer the question I think if your winning bid was ยฃ20,000 Total payable would be between ยฃ26,800 and ยฃ27,520 someone else can do the seller bit as my kettle has boiled |
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