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SOLD, by sharky on Feb 23, 2018 18:43:31 GMT 1, Hi everyone! I am considering the sale of my Murakami print Panda Family – Happiness,
released in 2016, for Euro 800. Shipping and PP fees are on the buyer. This was also available at Perrotin, now out of stock, for Euro 940.
The print measures 500 x 500 mm, is from an edition of 300 and signed. I am the original owner.
It has been stored flat in its original box since the purchase, so it's mint. Happy to ship worldwide or to deliver anywhere here in Rome (Italy). Shipping and payment fees are at buyer's charge.
Thanks for looking!...and for any serious query, please let me know.
Here the pictures of the actual print inside in its original double box. Never opened, so I am not going to take it out just to take pictures (below an image of the print for reference).
This is the picture for pure reference only.
Hi everyone! I am considering the sale of my Murakami print Panda Family – Happiness, released in 2016, for Euro 800. Shipping and PP fees are on the buyer. This was also available at Perrotin, now out of stock, for Euro 940. The print measures 500 x 500 mm, is from an edition of 300 and signed. I am the original owner. It has been stored flat in its original box since the purchase, so it's mint. Happy to ship worldwide or to deliver anywhere here in Rome (Italy). Shipping and payment fees are at buyer's charge. Thanks for looking!...and for any serious query, please let me know. Here the pictures of the actual print inside in its original double box. Never opened, so I am not going to take it out just to take pictures (below an image of the print for reference). This is the picture for pure reference only. |
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SOLD, by spacemanspiff on Feb 24, 2018 20:16:12 GMT 1, Sweet print. Loving the colors. Any idea what the original cost and what they're going for now is?
Sweet print. Loving the colors. Any idea what the original cost and what they're going for now is?
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fm1975
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SOLD, by sharky on Feb 25, 2018 12:42:50 GMT 1, Pictures uploaded. Thanks for looking!
Pictures uploaded. Thanks for looking!
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Of Course mate. Good Luck with the Sale!!! |
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SOLD, by ABC on Mar 1, 2018 23:28:02 GMT 1, Mint Print.
Mint Print.
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sharky
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SOLD, by sharky on May 2, 2018 10:42:42 GMT 1, This is still up for sale
This is still up for sale
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SOLD, by sharky on Jun 12, 2018 13:35:52 GMT 1, Asking price Euro 800. Shipping and PP fees are on the buyer. This was also available at Perrotin, now out of stock, for Euro 940.
Asking price Euro 800. Shipping and PP fees are on the buyer. This was also available at Perrotin, now out of stock, for Euro 940.
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SOLD, by cjwhitey on Jul 10, 2018 15:27:23 GMT 1, One of the better Murakami prints I've seen. GLWTS.
One of the better Murakami prints I've seen. GLWTS.
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sharky
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 17, 2018 18:53:05 GMT 1, Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here!
Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here!
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SOLD, by jbelleit on Oct 17, 2018 19:12:08 GMT 1, Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here!  ?
If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying.
Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here! You're complaining because you're not getting the profit you want from having purchased this print and wanting to sell? ? If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying. |
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SOLD, by ARN on Oct 18, 2018 3:13:38 GMT 1, I'll buy this at cost for sure!
I'll buy this at cost for sure!
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sharky
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 6:28:32 GMT 1, Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here! You're complaining because you're not getting the profit you want from having purchased this print and wanting to sell? ? If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying.
How do you know how much I paid and that this price is not my cost?
Come on! Unbelievable this is still sitting here! You're complaining because you're not getting the profit you want from having purchased this print and wanting to sell? ? If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying. How do you know how much I paid and that this price is not my cost? |
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SOLD, by jbelleit on Oct 19, 2018 13:27:56 GMT 1, You're complaining because you're not getting the profit you want from having purchased this print and wanting to sell? ? If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying. How do you know how much I paid and that this price is not my cost?
Also, you wrote "...in its original double box. Never opened."
You're complaining because you're not getting the profit you want from having purchased this print and wanting to sell? ? If you really want to get it off the market, sell it at your cost...just saying. How do you know how much I paid and that this price is not my cost? Uh...by your statement "I am the original owner". If you are the original owner, you paid cost. If you didn't pay cost, then you weren't the original owner. Which one is it? Also, you wrote "...in its original double box. Never opened." |
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SOLD, by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 14:30:06 GMT 1, Sharky, you're doing this wrong. I'm sorry to say. You can see original pricing on KaiKai KiKi if Yen, so either you aren't the original purchaser and trying to re-coup whatever you paid, or you are the repurchaser and are trying to make quite a profit on this.
If you aren't the original purchaser, then I would say you're being misleading, and if you are the original purchaser, than I would say its kind of ridiculous to complain this is still "sitting here" when you're trying to make multiple of what you paid -
Sharky, you're doing this wrong. I'm sorry to say. You can see original pricing on KaiKai KiKi if Yen, so either you aren't the original purchaser and trying to re-coup whatever you paid, or you are the repurchaser and are trying to make quite a profit on this.
If you aren't the original purchaser, then I would say you're being misleading, and if you are the original purchaser, than I would say its kind of ridiculous to complain this is still "sitting here" when you're trying to make multiple of what you paid -
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SOLD, by touchdowntodd on Oct 19, 2018 14:40:46 GMT 1, Well I'm not going to offer you as low as others say should be offered.. 500 euro
Well I'm not going to offer you as low as others say should be offered.. 500 euro
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 15:05:29 GMT 1, This is now on hold
This is now on hold
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 15:11:43 GMT 1, Just to clarify the comments above of losvce@jbelleitwhich which, unfortunately, are slightly wrong: I bought this print through a proxy (who got a commission)...so I am the original owner but I didn't pay the original price.
Please stop commenting by making wrong assumptions. If, instead, you have real information then please comment as much as you want...even though I understand there are people who enjoy spamming others' threads
Just to clarify the comments above of losvce@jbelleitwhich which, unfortunately, are slightly wrong: I bought this print through a proxy (who got a commission)...so I am the original owner but I didn't pay the original price. Please stop commenting by making wrong assumptions. If, instead, you have real information then please comment as much as you want...even though I understand there are people who enjoy spamming others' threads |
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SOLD, by jbelleit on Oct 19, 2018 15:23:09 GMT 1, I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price.
I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price.
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SOLD, by touchdowntodd on Oct 19, 2018 15:44:24 GMT 1, I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price.
My thoughts exactly.. I'll frame it
I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price. My thoughts exactly.. I'll frame it |
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SOLD, by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 15:47:58 GMT 1, Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS
Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 15:55:47 GMT 1, I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price.
I am not spamming others' threads, I just get bummed when people complain they aren't making a profit on art. Again, you said you were the original owner and then couldn't believe people weren't paying the price you asked. I am sorry that you might have to take a loss on art that you didn't even put on your wall and that you kept in the original box for the sheer purpose of selling for profit. GLWTS. I hope it goes to someone who wants to put art on their walls to enjoy instead of keeping in a box waiting for it to go up in price. Again wrong assumptions...unfortunately, but I don't have to justify myself |
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 15:59:06 GMT 1, Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS
Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS Please elaborate your thoughts...what additional information should I share with everyone? You have an interesting point of view, maybe constructive, even though I feel like I was not misleading at all. I don't understand what doesn't make me an original owner...but like art, everyone has his/her own point of view. |
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SOLD, by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:10:09 GMT 1, Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS Please elaborate your thoughts...what additional information should I share with everyone? You have an interesting point of view, maybe constructive, even though I feel like I was not misleading at all. I don't understand what doesn't make me an original owner...but like art, everyone has his/her own point of view.
So, I think you can see that given that legitimate assumption, it looks like you are trying to flip this for more than *reasonably assumed* cost, because your offer (which is not unreasonable) is way more than the source would cost, and then it appears that you are complaining about not being able to sell it for over 2X what you would have paid in Japan.
I hope that makes sense. I think this is honestly miscommunication, but I want to be clear to be helpful and hopefully explain why I and others took this as we did. And for the record, 800E is not unreasonable and I have no problem with that price. I think its pretty fair.
Sharky, no spamming here. Follow the murakami market a lot, and "original owner" implies something that it is not in this case. I am certainly not spamming, and I am making assumptions that clearly others are as well, so perhaps if you have additional information it would be helpful to provide it from the start rather than being "accidentally misleading" and then complaining that you can't sell this piece. GLWTS Please elaborate your thoughts...what additional information should I share with everyone? You have an interesting point of view, maybe constructive, even though I feel like I was not misleading at all. I don't understand what doesn't make me an original owner...but like art, everyone has his/her own point of view. I don't think you were trying to be misleading. But, especially for murakami, you can only buy them at the source (Kai Kai Ki Ki) or from Perrotin directly. You implied in your original thread that you did not buy from Perrotin because you listed the price there as well. So, to someone who looks at and knows this market, your thread implies that you bought from the source, otherwise how could you be the original owner ? I am now aware that you bought it by proxy, and I know that bumps up the cost as well, but to me (someone who looks at this market more than any other) and most other people I believe from this thread, it appeared that you bought this for cost from KaiKai KiKi. The proxy buy is not something I or most people assumed, and I would not expect them to given the way its worded. So, I think you can see that given that legitimate assumption, it looks like you are trying to flip this for more than *reasonably assumed* cost, because your offer (which is not unreasonable) is way more than the source would cost, and then it appears that you are complaining about not being able to sell it for over 2X what you would have paid in Japan. I hope that makes sense. I think this is honestly miscommunication, but I want to be clear to be helpful and hopefully explain why I and others took this as we did. And for the record, 800E is not unreasonable and I have no problem with that price. I think its pretty fair. |
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 19, 2018 16:16:38 GMT 1, Please elaborate your thoughts...what additional information should I share with everyone? You have an interesting point of view, maybe constructive, even though I feel like I was not misleading at all. I don't understand what doesn't make me an original owner...but like art, everyone has his/her own point of view. I don't think you were trying to be misleading. But, especially for murakami, you can only buy them at the source (Kai Kai Ki Ki) or from Perrotin directly. You implied in your original thread that you did not buy from Perrotin because you listed the price there as well. So, to someone who looks at and knows this market, your thread implies that you bought from the source, otherwise how could you be the original owner ? I am now aware that you bought it by proxy, and I know that bumps up the cost as well, but to me (someone who looks at this market more than any other) and most other people I believe from this thread, it appeared that you bought this for cost from KaiKai KiKi. The proxy buy is not something I or most people assumed, and I would not expect them to given the way its worded. So, I think you can see that given that legitimate assumption, it looks like you are trying to flip this for more than *reasonably assumed* cost, because your offer (which is not unreasonable) is way more than the source would cost, and then it appears that you are complaining about not being able to sell it for over 2X what you would have paid in Japan. I hope that makes sense. I think this is honestly miscommunication, but I want to be clear to be helpful and hopefully explain why I and others took this as we did. And for the record, 800E is not unreasonable and I have no problem with that price. I think its pretty fair.
On the other hand, it would have been strange to state that I were the original owner "who, nevertheless, bought the print through a proxy".
Please elaborate your thoughts...what additional information should I share with everyone? You have an interesting point of view, maybe constructive, even though I feel like I was not misleading at all. I don't understand what doesn't make me an original owner...but like art, everyone has his/her own point of view. I don't think you were trying to be misleading. But, especially for murakami, you can only buy them at the source (Kai Kai Ki Ki) or from Perrotin directly. You implied in your original thread that you did not buy from Perrotin because you listed the price there as well. So, to someone who looks at and knows this market, your thread implies that you bought from the source, otherwise how could you be the original owner ? I am now aware that you bought it by proxy, and I know that bumps up the cost as well, but to me (someone who looks at this market more than any other) and most other people I believe from this thread, it appeared that you bought this for cost from KaiKai KiKi. The proxy buy is not something I or most people assumed, and I would not expect them to given the way its worded. So, I think you can see that given that legitimate assumption, it looks like you are trying to flip this for more than *reasonably assumed* cost, because your offer (which is not unreasonable) is way more than the source would cost, and then it appears that you are complaining about not being able to sell it for over 2X what you would have paid in Japan. I hope that makes sense. I think this is honestly miscommunication, but I want to be clear to be helpful and hopefully explain why I and others took this as we did. And for the record, 800E is not unreasonable and I have no problem with that price. I think its pretty fair. I completely agree with you, and thanks for you thoroughly explanation. That's why assuming could be "tricky" sometimes (even for reasonable assumption) and I ask rather than assume...but that's another point. On the other hand, it would have been strange to state that I were the original owner "who, nevertheless, bought the print through a proxy". |
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SOLD, by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 17:32:52 GMT 1, Yes, thats true also. I am the original owner through proxy would have also been strange.
So, in my conclusion, it was just lack of communication and understanding all around, but I think you see what I'm saying, and I appreciate your point as well. In any case, I guess now its all clear, and I hope you get the price you are looking for - best -
Yes, thats true also. I am the original owner through proxy would have also been strange.
So, in my conclusion, it was just lack of communication and understanding all around, but I think you see what I'm saying, and I appreciate your point as well. In any case, I guess now its all clear, and I hope you get the price you are looking for - best -
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SOLD, by sharky on Oct 21, 2018 18:31:36 GMT 1, Sold, pending payment
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SOLD, by sharky on Nov 7, 2018 12:17:50 GMT 1,
definitively sold...and delivered to an happy buyer!
definitively sold...and delivered to an happy buyer! |
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