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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by ca on May 4, 2018 17:59:24 GMT 1, Mineโs under 230 so doubt it unless more than 40 were available. i was told around half the edition was available so 50ish
Mineโs under 230 so doubt it unless more than 40 were available. i was told around half the edition was available so 50ish
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by nobokov on May 4, 2018 17:59:33 GMT 1, I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations.
I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by artguy1 on May 4, 2018 18:01:50 GMT 1, I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations. I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key.
I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations. I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by printsthingsandbooksbyartists on May 4, 2018 18:01:58 GMT 1, Dear all,
Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans !
You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed.
All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded.
A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again.
See you soon,
Prints, things and books by artists
Dear all,
Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans !
You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed.
All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded.
A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again.
See you soon,
Prints, things and books by artists
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by DrWhite on May 4, 2018 18:07:12 GMT 1, Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists
Straight from the heart ๐
Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists Straight from the heart ๐
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on May 4, 2018 18:18:56 GMT 1, Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists So if someone has not had a refund email by now, they are OK?
Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists So if someone has not had a refund email by now, they are OK?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by artguy1 on May 4, 2018 18:21:01 GMT 1, Was the release made early?
Was the release made early?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Coach on May 4, 2018 18:42:57 GMT 1, Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists
Good of you to come here to say so. Congratulations to you and Oli Epp on such a successful show. Hopefully lessons learnt for future in demand print releases. Bonsoir.
Dear all, Thank you so much to all Oli Epp fans ! You have been so many on the ยซ prints, things and books by artists ยป website this morning that it has crashed. All orders that have not been honored have already been refunded. A thousand excuses, we promise it wonโt happen again. See you soon, Prints, things and books by artists Good of you to come here to say so. Congratulations to you and Oli Epp on such a successful show. Hopefully lessons learnt for future in demand print releases. Bonsoir.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Coach on May 4, 2018 18:58:24 GMT 1, I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations. I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key.
Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition.
I'd recommend using a credit card that doesn't charge fees for foreign transaction. They must have a lot of orders to work through and would recommend giving them time to respond graciously. Jumping the gun on a bad review seems a bit hasty but I understand your frustrations. I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key. Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on May 4, 2018 19:08:19 GMT 1, I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key. Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition.
Amen! Technology will always let you down! Jesus the banks with their trillions canโt even get it right! They had the best intentions
I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key. Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition. Amen! Technology will always let you down! Jesus the banks with their trillions canโt even get it right! They had the best intentions
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on May 4, 2018 19:39:44 GMT 1, I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key. Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition. To a point I agree with you Coach, but these weโre still โฌ175 โproductsโ, which although relatively inexpensive compared to a lot of releases is still a decent amount of cash. I still feel and business selling art at this price should have a high quality IT system.
I wasn't the one who replied, I was just sharing it with the forum...however I disagree with you, they should have sent an email out informing customers right away as soon as they knew there was a problem. Communication is key. Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition. To a point I agree with you Coach, but these weโre still โฌ175 โproductsโ, which although relatively inexpensive compared to a lot of releases is still a decent amount of cash. I still feel and business selling art at this price should have a high quality IT system.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by ca on May 4, 2018 19:42:33 GMT 1, Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition. To a point I agree with you Coach, but these weโre still โฌ175 โproductsโ, which although relatively inexpensive compared to a lot of releases is still a decent amount of cash. I still feel and business selling art at this price should have a high quality IT system. do like the rest, dont be scrapping for pennies and get shopify. Anyway, they might decide to invest a couple extra $ in getting a decent system after this, learn from your mistakes I guess
Come now, they are a gallery, not a multi national company. They let people know same day. Isnโt that good enough? It looks like these were oversold by hundreds. It seems that people may have been notified individually, albeit with the same email of course, and this will have taken time. Iโd much rather a gallery is run by people who are passsionate about art, who sometimes make a mistake, than business men, who run it smoothly but without the passion. Itโs a shame that the system allowed the oversells, but I expect that lessons will be learned. And I think itโs a great shame if someone has left negative feedback. Collectors should know that sometimes they will be disappointed, by the very nature of a limited edition. To a point I agree with you Coach, but these weโre still โฌ175 โproductsโ, which although relatively inexpensive compared to a lot of releases is still a decent amount of cash. I still feel and business selling art at this price should have a high quality IT system. do like the rest, dont be scrapping for pennies and get shopify. Anyway, they might decide to invest a couple extra $ in getting a decent system after this, learn from your mistakes I guess
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by whob1 on May 4, 2018 19:56:06 GMT 1, Think selling it several minutes before 10:30 online is a bigger issue than overselling it after time. Just poor, but nice of them to make an apology and lets hope they improve.
Think selling it several minutes before 10:30 online is a bigger issue than overselling it after time. Just poor, but nice of them to make an apology and lets hope they improve.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Express Post on May 4, 2018 20:46:43 GMT 1, Thx for the lulz.
Everyone that missed out, take the L and move on.
Thx for the lulz.
Everyone that missed out, take the L and move on.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Winter on May 4, 2018 20:59:09 GMT 1, Great thing about art is thereโs always something new round the corner - move on
Great thing about art is thereโs always something new round the corner - move on
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by touchdowntodd on May 4, 2018 21:52:34 GMT 1, I think the real issue is releasing it prior to official time they advised me of. Some of us have very busy lives outside of this very silly game. That to me is a very poor show.
I have sympathy on galleries
That being Said.. I'm sure you're busy. Also sure I woke up at 4am to try, and failed
I think the real issue is releasing it prior to official time they advised me of. Some of us have very busy lives outside of this very silly game. That to me is a very poor show. I have sympathy on galleries That being Said.. I'm sure you're busy. Also sure I woke up at 4am to try, and failed
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by cyberkid on May 4, 2018 21:58:01 GMT 1, Only order up to 50 will get confirmation- they only had 50 to sell - maximum 51
Only order up to 50 will get confirmation- they only had 50 to sell - maximum 51
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by opi on May 4, 2018 22:40:11 GMT 1, That link says the seller is Jealous...so might be a bit of a bum steer.
That link says the seller is Jealous...so might be a bit of a bum steer.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Express Post on May 4, 2018 22:44:16 GMT 1, Now that all the toys have been thrown out of the prams, can we talk about the art now?
Now that all the toys have been thrown out of the prams, can we talk about the art now?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Express Post on May 4, 2018 23:49:10 GMT 1, You joking right? The clowns ruined the thread.
Now that all the toys have been thrown out of the prams, can we talk about the art now? Yes of course, although there was no need to start your comment like that
You joking right? The clowns ruined the thread. Now that all the toys have been thrown out of the prams, can we talk about the art now? Yes of course, although there was no need to start your comment like that
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by blerd on May 4, 2018 23:54:23 GMT 1, Buyers will not have these in hand until June is what Jealous told me. Unless you are one of the 5 buyers who pick up at the print fair. still got to wait.
Buyers will not have these in hand until June is what Jealous told me. Unless you are one of the 5 buyers who pick up at the print fair. still got to wait.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by clueless on May 5, 2018 0:39:12 GMT 1, Wait.. So everyone complaining about it being released early... You're telling me that y'all don't actually go to the site, product page, or start refreshing until the designated time? It seems that most probably might (maybe) have been sold early.. So, why weren't you part of that? (Edit, that sounded kind of harsh.. I completely understand attempting to but not being able to.. it took me four tries to even get my payment to go through...)
Not trying to make excuses but I think we have all seen products go up early. To their credit, maybe they were just trying to get it ready for 10:30 and didn't expect a bunch of art junkies to be stalking the site and refreshing constantly before the designated time.
Idk.. Stuff happens. Galleries who are passionate about the art don't need to be IT professionals.. They did us all a favor by saving some for an online release. I'm sure they could have easily sold out at the show..
Just my .02
Wait.. So everyone complaining about it being released early... You're telling me that y'all don't actually go to the site, product page, or start refreshing until the designated time? It seems that most probably might (maybe) have been sold early.. So, why weren't you part of that? (Edit, that sounded kind of harsh.. I completely understand attempting to but not being able to.. it took me four tries to even get my payment to go through...)
Not trying to make excuses but I think we have all seen products go up early. To their credit, maybe they were just trying to get it ready for 10:30 and didn't expect a bunch of art junkies to be stalking the site and refreshing constantly before the designated time.
Idk.. Stuff happens. Galleries who are passionate about the art don't need to be IT professionals.. They did us all a favor by saving some for an online release. I'm sure they could have easily sold out at the show..
Just my .02
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Pavoni on May 5, 2018 1:41:22 GMT 1, Well, there's 210 Euro I get to repurpose.... ( ; _ ; )
Well, there's 210 Euro I get to repurpose.... ( ; _ ; )
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Pjam on May 5, 2018 2:22:06 GMT 1, Is Oli the next KAWS?
Is Oli the next KAWS?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by louic on May 5, 2018 2:58:35 GMT 1, I think as long as youโre keen enough and as mobile and willing as @sircoxon then you are good. I lost out this time, but it is kind of fair in the long run right?
I think as long as youโre keen enough and as mobile and willing as @sircoxon then you are good. I lost out this time, but it is kind of fair in the long run right?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by louic on May 5, 2018 3:01:43 GMT 1, I think as long as youโre keen enough and as mobile and willing as @sircoxon then you are good. I lost out this time, but it is kind of fair in the long run right?
Sorry sircoxson
I think as long as youโre keen enough and as mobile and willing as @sircoxon then you are good. I lost out this time, but it is kind of fair in the long run right? Sorry sircoxson
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by louic on May 5, 2018 3:03:33 GMT 1, Sigh, my only issue is being explicitly told a release time - thatโs not cool to then dismiss - at the end of the day every customer orientated service in this world will always eventually live and die on how it treats its customers ... piss off the wrong person with the right connections and it wonโt take much. Anyway on to the artist, what do I like about him? Heโs happened on a simple avatar for a young mans view of the world from a specific background, it works, bringing both a pathos and insight into this world. It tells a story simply and well. How this progresses is anyoneโs guess, but potentially this could be a signature style that progresses with his development.
This is boring, doesnโt matter.
Sigh, my only issue is being explicitly told a release time - thatโs not cool to then dismiss - at the end of the day every customer orientated service in this world will always eventually live and die on how it treats its customers ... piss off the wrong person with the right connections and it wonโt take much. Anyway on to the artist, what do I like about him? Heโs happened on a simple avatar for a young mans view of the world from a specific background, it works, bringing both a pathos and insight into this world. It tells a story simply and well. How this progresses is anyoneโs guess, but potentially this could be a signature style that progresses with his development. This is boring, doesnโt matter.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by Express Post on May 5, 2018 3:47:39 GMT 1, louic Why you gotta be like that?
Can you back up why his comment is boring and doesn't matter?
Art discussion should be encouraged. There is not enough of it on this forum.
nex Stay with it Peace all.
Sigh, my only issue is being explicitly told a release time - thatโs not cool to then dismiss - at the end of the day every customer orientated service in this world will always eventually live and die on how it treats its customers ... piss off the wrong person with the right connections and it wonโt take much. Anyway on to the artist, what do I like about him? Heโs happened on a simple avatar for a young mans view of the world from a specific background, it works, bringing both a pathos and insight into this world. It tells a story simply and well. How this progresses is anyoneโs guess, but potentially this could be a signature style that progresses with his development. This is boring, doesnโt matter.
louic Why you gotta be like that? Can you back up why his comment is boring and doesn't matter? Art discussion should be encouraged. There is not enough of it on this forum. nex Stay with it Peace all. Sigh, my only issue is being explicitly told a release time - thatโs not cool to then dismiss - at the end of the day every customer orientated service in this world will always eventually live and die on how it treats its customers ... piss off the wrong person with the right connections and it wonโt take much. Anyway on to the artist, what do I like about him? Heโs happened on a simple avatar for a young mans view of the world from a specific background, it works, bringing both a pathos and insight into this world. It tells a story simply and well. How this progresses is anyoneโs guess, but potentially this could be a signature style that progresses with his development. This is boring, doesnโt matter.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by louic on May 5, 2018 4:14:43 GMT 1, louic Why you gotta be like that? Can you back up why his comment is boring and doesn't matter? Art discussion should be encouraged. There is not enough of it on this forum. nex Stay with it Peace all. This is boring, doesnโt matter.
Yer, fair comment. Sorry. Just Mr Bitter about the refund lol
louic Why you gotta be like that? Can you back up why his comment is boring and doesn't matter? Art discussion should be encouraged. There is not enough of it on this forum. nex Stay with it Peace all. This is boring, doesnโt matter. Yer, fair comment. Sorry. Just Mr Bitter about the refund lol
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