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Banksy Soup Can Print, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 21:21:42 GMT 1, I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free  . The UV glass may have been put in the wrong way, making it effectively useless.
I think the consensus was that most probably the mount board was not acid free and the acid from the mount had affected the print edge (mainly one edge). It had UV glass and was out of direct sunlight so I don't think it's the affect of the sun. However, as with most things in life, I might be wrong. I think it is a lesson I have learned in making sure the mount is acid free how long has it been in that frame and did you frame it yourself? i would be very surprised if any professional framers used anything other than acid free board, and if they did i suggest finding yourself a new framer . The UV glass may have been put in the wrong way, making it effectively useless. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 21:28:19 GMT 1, Beautiful. Only thing I canโt understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. standard procedure to attach it to the front mount
In whoโs book? Certainly not a technique Iโd use. T hinges all the way.
Beautiful. Only thing I canโt understand is why it as been attached to the window mount and not the under mount? Strange. The simplicity of this is amazing. standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In whoโs book? Certainly not a technique Iโd use. T hinges all the way. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 21:38:13 GMT 1, standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In whoโs book? Certainly not a technique Iโd use. T hinges all the way.
standard procedure to attach it to the front mount In whoโs book? Certainly not a technique Iโd use. T hinges all the way. maybe i misunderstood your post. personally i have never framed a mounted print by attaching it to a backing board, always used the front mount. could you enlighten me on how you would have done it? i'm a bit of a framing nerd and like seeing how others do things |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Jonny Wednesday on Oct 20, 2017 21:42:59 GMT 1, Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO.
Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me.
Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 22:07:29 GMT 1, In whoโs book? Certainly not a technique Iโd use. T hinges all the way. maybe i misunderstood your post. personally i have never framed a mounted printย by attaching it to a backing board, always used the front mount. could you enlighten me on how you would have done it? i'm a bit of a framing nerd and like seeing how others do things ย
A book hinge is used to join the window mount to the under mount and two t hinges are used to attach to artwork to the under mount.
www.nedcc.org/free-resources/preservation-leaflets/7.-conservation-procedures/7.4-how-to-do-your-own-matting-and-hinging
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Unica on Oct 20, 2017 22:10:14 GMT 1, Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me.
Don't worry it's sold.
Looks like very minor UV bleach that can be reversed. No idea of value but this would only have a minor effect IMO. What I would say and have said on countless occasions float mount is the only option. No matter if you use museum glass you will get fading and it will be uneven with a matt. Float will mean the fading will not be noticeable. People get hung up about hinges when floating when if done properly is 100% reversible and its the back of the print!! Most farmers who have been ask to use a matt to frame the print will hinge at the top anyway, as per this print. All said and done this is a beautiful print and worth more than the current asking IMO. how do you reverse UV bleaching? Lovely print BTW. Am tempted but I think I'd have to castrate myself if I did.....save the missus doing it for me. [ Don't worry it's sold. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by simonf on Oct 20, 2017 22:37:50 GMT 1, So just out of interest is the "acid from the mount" theory blown out of the water? Is the consensus that it was sunlight? Just curious as I was surprised to find it. It was supposed to be acid free and uv glass.
Oh and can you reverse UV bleaching... I thought you couldn't
So just out of interest is the "acid from the mount" theory blown out of the water? Is the consensus that it was sunlight? Just curious as I was surprised to find it. It was supposed to be acid free and uv glass.
Oh and can you reverse UV bleaching... I thought you couldn't
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:10:37 GMT 1, I think the fact that has been talked about before is that Banksy didnโt always print for on the highest quality stock which hasnโt helped in the the preservation of the art.
I think the fact that has been talked about before is that Banksy didnโt always print for on the highest quality stock which hasnโt helped in the the preservation of the art.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 23:14:40 GMT 1, Cheers for the info dude, i am familiar with this technique but not huge fan myself as it takes more time to put in, guess i am just lazy. i am still a little confused why they say on that site never attach the work to the front of the mount, i don't see why it would cause such an issue.can you shed any light? or is it just personal preference?
Cheers for the info dude, i am familiar with this technique but not huge fan myself as it takes more time to put in, guess i am just lazy. i am still a little confused why they say on that site never attach the work to the front of the mount, i don't see why it would cause such an issue.can you shed any light? or is it just personal preference? |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:20:43 GMT 1, Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly itโs easier to position the artwork correctly when itโs attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly itโs easier to position the artwork correctly when itโs attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by broke on Oct 20, 2017 23:36:22 GMT 1, Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly itโs easier to position the artwork correctly when itโs attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount.
Firstly the window mount could potentially sag under the weight of the artwork but more importantly itโs easier to position the artwork correctly when itโs attached to the under mount. The backing board is not the under mount. i disagree with both of those statements. I've framed tens of thousands of pieces onto the front mount and never had any complaints about sagging, guess it depends on the board you use. i also find it much easier to position as you can move the mount over the artwork instead of moving the artwork under the mount. each to their own i guess. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by iamzero on Oct 20, 2017 23:42:40 GMT 1, Well Iโm guessing youโre better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer Iโve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. Iโm sure youโre one of the good guys though.
Well Iโm guessing youโre better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer Iโve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. Iโm sure youโre one of the good guys though.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by broke on Oct 21, 2017 0:02:15 GMT 1, Well Iโm guessing youโre better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer Iโve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. Iโm sure youโre one of the good guys though.  maybe i will give your way another go.
Well Iโm guessing youโre better off voicing your disapproval to the framers guild dude. As a hobby/ part time framer Iโve opened countless frames from professional framers and been horrified to see what shoddy work these people pass off because the customer rarely sees it. Iโm sure youโre one of the good guys though. sorry if it sounded like i was undermining you, as that was not my intention. when i tell people i'm a framer i often have to explain what a picture framer is, so its nice to speak with someone like yourself who shares my interest. i also have a few horror stories when opening frames, super glue, parcel tape and even hot glue gun to name but a few. when i win the banksy lottery maybe i will give your way another go. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 13:57:16 GMT 1,
right....unfortunately these two need to go. No COA as of yet but Pest Control have confirmed all is legit.ย
right....unfortunately these two need to go. No COA as of yet but Pest Control have confirmed all is legit.ย |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by bjoern on Dec 13, 2017 14:22:45 GMT 1, Price for Applause?
Price for Applause?
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Poster Bob on Dec 13, 2017 15:01:25 GMT 1, By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right?
By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right?
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2017 15:47:11 GMT 1, By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right?
By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right? Bob, its one for us uneducated collectors; you need to get back to your signed and originals forum. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Poster Bob on Dec 13, 2017 15:50:27 GMT 1, Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids.
By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right? Bob, its one for us uneducated collectors; you need to get back to your signed and originals forum.
Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids. By your wording I assume that you have had the works authenticated, paid for the COAs and are just waiting to receive them in the mail. Is that right? Bob, its one for us uneducated collectors; you need to get back to your signed and originals forum. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by bob60 on Dec 13, 2017 17:11:21 GMT 1, Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids. Bob, its one for us uneducated collectors; you need to get back to your signed and originals forum. Why do you go out of your way to constantly troll peoples sales threads? Why not go some place else, there are a million other internet sites out there, find one you like instead of bringing your negativity on here...
Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids. Bob, its one for us uneducated collectors; you need to get back to your signed and originals forum. Why do you go out of your way to constantly troll peoples sales threads? Why not go some place else, there are a million other internet sites out there, find one you like instead of bringing your negativity on here...
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by sharky on Dec 13, 2017 17:18:06 GMT 1, Who did the framing??
Who did the framing??
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Poster Bob on Dec 13, 2017 17:31:43 GMT 1, I'm not trolling anyone yet but I can call you a whambulance if needed you baby.
Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids. Why do you go out of your way to constantly troll peoples sales threads? Why not go some place else, there are a million other internet sites out there, find one you like instead of bringing your negativity on here...
I'm not trolling anyone yet but I can call you a whambulance if needed you baby. Yes. Have fun with your worthless tat kids. Why do you go out of your way to constantly troll peoples sales threads? Why not go some place else, there are a million other internet sites out there, find one you like instead of bringing your negativity on here...
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by Poster Bob on Dec 13, 2017 17:41:34 GMT 1, Selling prints without COAs, if that doesn't set off alarms I don't know what does.
Selling prints without COAs, if that doesn't set off alarms I don't know what does.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by BKBOI on Dec 13, 2017 18:30:46 GMT 1, bob trolls but wouldn't really call his posts in this thread one. I think it was a legit question if the OP has already applied for the the COAs and is just waiting for the actual certificates to arrive in the mail.
bob trolls but wouldn't really call his posts in this thread one. I think it was a legit question if the OP has already applied for the the COAs and is just waiting for the actual certificates to arrive in the mail.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 18:40:54 GMT 1, Selling prints without COAs, if that doesn't set off alarms I don't know what does.
Fucking p*ick. Fuck off and bother someone else.
Selling prints without COAs, if that doesn't set off alarms I don't know what does. Fucking p*ick. Fuck off and bother someone else. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 18:41:54 GMT 1,
The Framers In DIgbeth, Birmingham. UV glass.
The Framers In DIgbeth, Birmingham. UV glass. |
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 18:48:27 GMT 1, I need to get payment over to PC for the COA which Iโm planning on doing on Friday.
I have the confirmation email from PC saying everything is cool. I can provide details if anyone wants to see it.
I need to get payment over to PC for the COA which Iโm planning on doing on Friday.
I have the confirmation email from PC saying everything is cool. I can provide details if anyone wants to see it.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by mubbs695 on Dec 13, 2017 18:50:13 GMT 1, price on applause?
price on applause?
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 19:02:27 GMT 1,
ยฃ7k each.....
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by arthurglass on Dec 13, 2017 21:40:12 GMT 1, I had to wait a couple months for the COAs to reach me after I had paid. I think it is optimistic to expect the COAs to be posted soon after you have paid.
I had to wait a couple months for the COAs to reach me after I had paid. I think it is optimistic to expect the COAs to be posted soon after you have paid.
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Banksy Soup Can Print, by woomas on Dec 13, 2017 22:44:02 GMT 1, I had to wait a couple months for the COAs to reach me after I had paid. I think it is optimistic to expect the COAs to be posted soon after you have paid.
Theyโve told me Iโll get them in a couple of weeks.
I had to wait a couple months for the COAs to reach me after I had paid. I think it is optimistic to expect the COAs to be posted soon after you have paid. Theyโve told me Iโll get them in a couple of weeks. |
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. The UV glass may have been put in the wrong way, making it effectively useless. 
maybe i will give your way another go.
