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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Coach on Feb 12, 2016 15:34:29 GMT 1, You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc
I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
You might. Or, you might think that Dismalland was a lot of fun for an awful lot of us, for next to nothing.
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by pokodogo on Feb 12, 2016 15:39:49 GMT 1, To save me searching is there any images of these anywhere .........
To save me searching is there any images of these anywhere .........
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 15:43:09 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:43:31 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Bristol museum too
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Bristol museum too |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 15:44:38 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold!
Send me £5k and il do one for you ;-)
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me £5k and il do one for you ;-) |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 15:58:01 GMT 1, Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me £5k and il do one for you ;-)
Would love to see an image of these.... especially the gold! Send me £5k and il do one for you ;-) 5k for a photo of a print! You must think I was born yesterday..... OK.... what's your paypal? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 16:00:46 GMT 1, Lol
Lol
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Hubble Bubble on Feb 12, 2016 16:01:26 GMT 1, It's like the red, but gold. And not as good.
It's like the red, but gold. And not as good.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 16:03:58 GMT 1, Tartan is my fave!
Tartan is my fave!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 12, 2016 16:05:36 GMT 1, Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedly
Not so much the cash grab element , years after a edition has sold out some people paid a high price on the secondary market for the original editions and original aps as for the exclusivity / rare / scarce print , adding more would reflect in lower pricings for the previous buyers as more on the market and the new prints in better condition as the originals were so cheap that most did not keep them in pristine condition?
All good, but like most things filters down from the top , as he's top of this scene can see others doing the same
Are artist proofs supposed to be produced at the same time as the regular edition run? If produced 10 years after the original edition , is that not bad play ? Or even a few months after an edition has sold out. All artists can extend editions if a print is popular by labelling as an ap? If it was any other artist doing this , the discussion would be different . I would love any of the GWB AP's, but I feel if it were a different artist people would see things like this differently. I'm guessing we would here the same old comments, "cash grab" "greed", etc. I don't think that is the case, but defiantly think he is treated differently, probably deservedly Not so much the cash grab element , years after a edition has sold out some people paid a high price on the secondary market for the original editions and original aps as for the exclusivity / rare / scarce print , adding more would reflect in lower pricings for the previous buyers as more on the market and the new prints in better condition as the originals were so cheap that most did not keep them in pristine condition? All good, but like most things filters down from the top , as he's top of this scene can see others doing the same |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 16:05:40 GMT 1, I haven't seen the red either..... What's that one like then?
I haven't seen the red either..... What's that one like then?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by mandelbrot on Feb 12, 2016 16:10:18 GMT 1, That's not gold!
That's not gold!
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Quinnster on Feb 12, 2016 17:05:54 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 17:10:40 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued.
Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004?
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by rgc on Feb 12, 2016 17:53:14 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Modern day Robin Hood???
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Modern day Robin Hood??? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by motor on Feb 12, 2016 18:02:20 GMT 1, I'm disappointed with these.
Poor form and lazy. There are so many other images which could have been used.
However well done to them for being able to sell these for all that money. That's another level.
I'm disappointed with these.
Poor form and lazy. There are so many other images which could have been used.
However well done to them for being able to sell these for all that money. That's another level.
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 18:20:25 GMT 1,
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-)
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-) |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Black Apple Art on Feb 12, 2016 18:21:50 GMT 1, I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004 Laughable really.
I have just found out the coa's are dated 2004 Laughable really. Regardless, IMO the microscopic quantities he now releases are unquantifiable compared to demand and what he could be doing. There's not another living artist anywhere close to his level of notoriety or demand that is exercising such restraint, not to mention giving back to such a degree with his exhibitions. |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Matt on Feb 12, 2016 19:33:23 GMT 1,
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !!
Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print
The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public.
Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by DrWhite on Feb 12, 2016 20:28:59 GMT 1, I've seen those images before somewhere ;-)
I got those same pics in an email shot from contemporary art trader - he had all 3 listed earlier this week iirc ?
I've seen those images before somewhere ;-) I got those same pics in an email shot from contemporary art trader - he had all 3 listed earlier this week iirc ? |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Quinnster on Feb 12, 2016 20:39:09 GMT 1, The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004?
Sorry was confused :-)
The COAs would be 2015 as that's when they were issued. Not the date the coa was signed but the date of the work, I am told, is 2004? Sorry was confused :-) |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by kel on Feb 12, 2016 20:56:33 GMT 1, Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with
Unfortunately the older you get the memory starts to fade where as art on the walls will last on
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. I'm with Coach on this Remember how mental the CYW release was ? Imagine what it would be today !! Also he could release blank pieces of paper, people would kill for them as long as it has COA...the image has nothing to do with it anymore, it's just the brand, so what is point of a putting out print The shows keep on getting better, the outside art has people challenging their views and all of us writing pages on here...honestly no point in releasing a print to the public. Also a lot of his prints look quite crap so it's good that he stopped. He was no good at it to start off with Unfortunately the older you get the memory starts to fade where as art on the walls will last on |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 12, 2016 21:06:02 GMT 1, Would like to see a signature from one of these if anyone can pm me one?
Would like to see a signature from one of these if anyone can pm me one?
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 0:44:06 GMT 1, He should of done a full range of cyw colours for the balloons
He should of done a full range of cyw colours for the balloons
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by curiousgeorge on Feb 13, 2016 1:47:52 GMT 1, My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at £35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. 
Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed..
Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks…
My understanding is gold, pink, purple and red artist's proofs were produced each as an edition of 22, so, 88 in all, priced at £35k + VAT, all included COA's. I think they were printed and available before and during the Dismaland show to VIP's only. Anyone please correct me if i'm wrong. £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks… |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 13, 2016 2:13:31 GMT 1, £3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks…
Lots of sources of income
Prints, posters , tshirts , booklets etc
Tickets
Funding / investors
Vip other unknown sales
Dismaland was a very well put together business as well as a great show .
£3,080,000 from a 88 run print drop. Fair play! Keep it Real, indeed. Not forgetting to minus full production costs Then ploughing 2? million into Dismaland? Keeping it very real indeed.. Funny reading this and noticing that the owners are mostly swerving the thread. #ifyouknowyouknoworsomeothersuchbollocks… Lots of sources of income Prints, posters , tshirts , booklets etc Tickets Funding / investors Vip other unknown sales Dismaland was a very well put together business as well as a great show . |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 13, 2016 5:31:37 GMT 1,
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy.
Great at ap pics btw, although anyone offering all of them for sale I think is probably bigging themselves up a little...!
Coach I have no doubt there was some extremely hi costs involved in the putting together and running of Dismaland and that has to be recouped somewhere.
Also I agree that there was an opportunity given to us all for a Banksy curated show for next to nothing how ever that isn't my point.
My point is with regards the release of work which now seems to be a closed shop. I stand to be corrected but the last readily made available work to the public was CYW which was over 5 years ago. Evidently the business model has changed.
Fair enough. But in the meantime we have been gifted with BOTI, Dismalland, new street pieces, etc I'm just saying that I'm happy with that. Thanks Banksy. Couldn't agree more coach. Just remember that the aps were sold at a discount to their true market value (and below even the prices for some signed gwb originals) and sold to people pow could trust. It's hardly Banksy profiteering. And the money was ploughed into stuff we could enjoy at subsidised rates. I'm pretty supportive of Banksy doing that. Nbg release was fun but cyw felt almost like a disaster. U could tell Banksy has been going off print releases for a while so it's clear that the strategy has changed. Great at ap pics btw, although anyone offering all of them for sale I think is probably bigging themselves up a little...! |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 13, 2016 5:33:08 GMT 1, I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp.
I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes.... |
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Banksy • Girl With Red Balloon Print, by brookvale on Feb 13, 2016 8:31:00 GMT 1, I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes....
I've seen a pink version, with no signature and not numbered, I've also seen a red one, with no signature and not numbered but with a black Banksy stamp. I'd respectfully suggest that all you have seen is a bunch of fakes.... Nope, the one with the black stamp has a coa. |
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