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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 18, 2016 22:35:16 GMT 1, Completely disagree. I think the majority are owned by people on this forum. I think we will agree to disagree then. You reckon majority owned by the forum, I reckon notย  altthough I'm basing this on the fact that none of the ones I'm aware of or have seen are members here.ย
No. Im right and you're wrong :-)
Happy to agree to disagree. My logic is that 'VIPs' are nothing more than trusted buyers who have bought quite a bit from pow over the years and haven't flipped. They are also deadly silent on what's available and all that. Therefore I think there are a large chunk of forum members who fit into that group who simply would not bother to post pictures or information about what's taken place, as quite simply, it's not worth it.
Completely disagree. I think the majority are owned by people on this forum. I think we will agree to disagree then. You reckon majority owned by the forum, I reckon notย altthough I'm basing this on the fact that none of the ones I'm aware of or have seen are members here.ย No. Im right and you're wrong :-) Happy to agree to disagree. My logic is that 'VIPs' are nothing more than trusted buyers who have bought quite a bit from pow over the years and haven't flipped. They are also deadly silent on what's available and all that. Therefore I think there are a large chunk of forum members who fit into that group who simply would not bother to post pictures or information about what's taken place, as quite simply, it's not worth it. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by stillborncrisps on Feb 18, 2016 22:36:02 GMT 1, What happened to the BOTI canvases that *did* sell?
Have any ever turned up in auction or on secondary market?
Still the greatest stunt (conceptually) he's ever pulled IMO. 
What happened to the BOTI canvases that *did* sell? Have any ever turned up in auction or on secondary market? Still the greatest stunt (conceptually) he's ever pulled IMO. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 23:19:42 GMT 1, A few must of been sold post boti, I know somebody who has one of them and he didn't get it from the stall that's for sure.
A few must of been sold post boti, I know somebody who has one of them and he didn't get it from the stall that's for sure. Maybe he rinsed them off and returned them to Tesco, I mean, canvases are expensive. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 19, 2016 1:23:20 GMT 1, I think we will agree to disagree then. You reckon majority owned by the forum, I reckon notย altthough I'm basing this on the fact that none of the ones I'm aware of or have seen are members here.ย No. Im right and you're wrong :-) Happy to agree to disagree. My logic is that 'VIPs' are nothing more than trusted buyers who have bought quite a bit from pow over the years and haven't flipped. They are also deadly silent on what's available and all that. Therefore I think there are a large chunk of forum members who fit into that group who simply would not bother to post pictures or information about what's taken place, as quite simply, it's not worth it.
Same with a few members knew of dismaland but did not disclose any info until officially released pr
I think we will agree to disagree then. You reckon majority owned by the forum, I reckon notย altthough I'm basing this on the fact that none of the ones I'm aware of or have seen are members here.ย No. Im right and you're wrong :-) Happy to agree to disagree. My logic is that 'VIPs' are nothing more than trusted buyers who have bought quite a bit from pow over the years and haven't flipped. They are also deadly silent on what's available and all that. Therefore I think there are a large chunk of forum members who fit into that group who simply would not bother to post pictures or information about what's taken place, as quite simply, it's not worth it. Same with a few members knew of dismaland but did not disclose any info until officially released pr |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 19, 2016 1:30:50 GMT 1, Like with any other AP "found behind the couch", one would have surfaced long before. Even Laz would have had a few tucked away. There have been various editions of GWB over the years, blue, black, even varying edition numbers - where some owners of buildings were going a print in lieu of payment for putting street pieces up on their walls. To say these were printed in 2004/2005 - that is a stretch. These were knocked up to fund Dismaland - thats it. The more fundamental question that should be asked is, if this was any other living artist, where they were constantly adding to long sold out editions, would they still be elevated to the near godly status? "If this were any other living artist" you can be assured he would be having shows, releases and exhibitions alternating throughout the year and working with top world galleries and auction houses, not to mention numerous other lucrative merchandise / endorsement deals. With his business acumen Banksy would have or be approaching a nine figure net worth with no need to raise money for anything. But by some stretch of their distorted imagination some feel it fit to criticise the man who hasn't had an official public release in 6 years, who gives free exhibitions and executes street work for all to enjoy while encouraging thought but chooses to release a handful of APs once in awhile.ย Yes, welcome to the forum.ย
could be quite a few prints for VIPs that the regular collector would not know of ?!
How long was the balloon with barb wire print out before it became common knowledge on here ?
A few canvases are being commissioned too for those on the vip list .
If he did release as others do , would oversaturated the market in 3 years and price levels would not be as is now
Like with any other AP "found behind the couch", one would have surfaced long before. Even Laz would have had a few tucked away. There have been various editions of GWB over the years, blue, black, even varying edition numbers - where some owners of buildings were going a print in lieu of payment for putting street pieces up on their walls. To say these were printed in 2004/2005 - that is a stretch. These were knocked up to fund Dismaland - thats it. The more fundamental question that should be asked is, if this was any other living artist, where they were constantly adding to long sold out editions, would they still be elevated to the near godly status? "If this were any other living artist" you can be assured he would be having shows, releases and exhibitions alternating throughout the year and working with top world galleries and auction houses, not to mention numerous other lucrative merchandise / endorsement deals. With his business acumen Banksy would have or be approaching a nine figure net worth with no need to raise money for anything. But by some stretch of their distorted imagination some feel it fit to criticise the man who hasn't had an official public release in 6 years, who gives free exhibitions and executes street work for all to enjoy while encouraging thought but chooses to release a handful of APs once in awhile.ย Yes, welcome to the forum.ย could be quite a few prints for VIPs that the regular collector would not know of ?! How long was the balloon with barb wire print out before it became common knowledge on here ? A few canvases are being commissioned too for those on the vip list . If he did release as others do , would oversaturated the market in 3 years and price levels would not be as is now |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 1:50:05 GMT 1, This is now SOLD and was picked up in person. Thanks for all the PMs.
This is now SOLD and was picked up in person. Thanks for all the PMs.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by rbk on Feb 19, 2016 3:18:22 GMT 1, Must say do not see much wrng with it as it is just an additional issue. The date is the date of the original plate etc. All AP"s these days are an additional edition as opposed to a few viewing proofs. so good luck to him earning some cash from an iconic work as opposed to having to release print and see iy flipped all over the internet
Must say do not see much wrng with it as it is just an additional issue. The date is the date of the original plate etc. All AP"s these days are an additional edition as opposed to a few viewing proofs. so good luck to him earning some cash from an iconic work as opposed to having to release print and see iy flipped all over the internet
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by docean on Feb 19, 2016 5:38:10 GMT 1, did someone say pictures?
did someone say pictures? |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by greenpoint on Feb 19, 2016 5:49:18 GMT 1, I think it b/s that he released these a/p GWBs. There is all this talk about he needed to funded dismaland blah...blah..blah. The talk about he needed these funds to fund dismaland is a f**King joke. No one here knows what he is selling behind closed doors. You are talking about Banksy as he's some artistic GOD. Get over him. He's doing some shady sh**. PERIOD!!!
I think it b/s that he released these a/p GWBs. There is all this talk about he needed to funded dismaland blah...blah..blah. The talk about he needed these funds to fund dismaland is a f**King joke. No one here knows what he is selling behind closed doors. You are talking about Banksy as he's some artistic GOD. Get over him. He's doing some shady sh**. PERIOD!!!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 19, 2016 8:00:29 GMT 1, Out of interest, does anyone know conclusively what the APs went for at dismaland?
Out of interest, does anyone know conclusively what the APs went for at dismaland?
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Ruggs on Feb 19, 2016 9:46:06 GMT 1, Out of interest, does anyone know conclusively what the APs went for at dismaland?
Out of interest, does anyone know conclusively what the APs went for at dismaland? ยฃ35k + VAT. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by barsukauk on Feb 19, 2016 10:29:22 GMT 1, i think the best colour is the red!
i think the best colour is the red!
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by stillborncrisps on Feb 19, 2016 11:31:58 GMT 1, Which signature is on the APs?
That might be a clue as to the true print date.
Which signature is on the APs?
That might be a clue as to the true print date.
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by DrWhite on Feb 19, 2016 21:03:47 GMT 1, i think the best colour is the red!
^^^ I agree the red is the best - and guaranteed from 2004.
i think the best colour is the red! ^^^ I agree the red is the best - and guaranteed from 2004. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by met on Feb 20, 2016 2:30:16 GMT 1, Which signature is on the APs? That might be a clue as to the true print date.
The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed.
Which signature is on the APs? That might be a clue as to the true print date. The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by gorkie on Feb 20, 2016 4:34:42 GMT 1, i think the best colour is the red! ^^^ I agree the red is the best - and guaranteed from 2004. 
i think the best colour is the red! ^^^ I agree the red is the best - and guaranteed from 2004. Actually 2004 and 2005. There are some dated with 04 and some with 05. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 20, 2016 9:58:16 GMT 1, Which signature is on the APs? That might be a clue as to the true print date. The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed.
I'm pretty sure that if I changed my signature in 2007 I would still remember how to do the old one lol
Which signature is on the APs? That might be a clue as to the true print date. The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. I'm pretty sure that if I changed my signature in 2007 I would still remember how to do the old one lol |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by met on Feb 20, 2016 11:18:01 GMT 1, The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005
My point is that I myself don't actually know. And given this ignorance, I'm uncomfortable simply relying on the assumption the A/Ps were printed at a later date. With Banksy in particular, any such assumption seems reckless to me.
Either way, in practical terms I'm unaffected; these are just philosophical musings for me. If the works were in fact printed recently, then my position is that dating them 2004 or 2005 on the COAs was the wrong move โ even if it (i) reflects a date when the image was burnt onto the relevant screens, or (ii) has arguably resulted in no real harm being done.
The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005 My point is that I myself don't actually know. And given this ignorance, I'm uncomfortable simply relying on the assumption the A/Ps were printed at a later date. With Banksy in particular, any such assumption seems reckless to me. Either way, in practical terms I'm unaffected; these are just philosophical musings for me. If the works were in fact printed recently, then my position is that dating them 2004 or 2005 on the COAs was the wrong move โ even if it (i) reflects a date when the image was burnt onto the relevant screens, or (ii) has arguably resulted in no real harm being done. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Pistol on Feb 20, 2016 11:49:03 GMT 1, None of us know met, pow are very good at the whole cloak and dagger thing! They obviously have their reasons for that approach. I have my opinions and am sure others have theirs. I started the thread just curious of the dates. Can't believe it created such interest, but as always anything surrounding Banksy always does. Long may it continue :-)
None of us know met, pow are very good at the whole cloak and dagger thing! They obviously have their reasons for that approach. I have my opinions and am sure others have theirs. I started the thread just curious of the dates. Can't believe it created such interest, but as always anything surrounding Banksy always does. Long may it continue :-)
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Feb 20, 2016 12:21:19 GMT 1, Imagine the houses of these VIPs, must have banksys hanging everywhere? It's been the same after/during every show he sells off to the same crowd. Ie. Museum gig, then sold pieces during the movie tour of USA, boti etc. and now dismal and. It's a good way of controlling the market as they rarely apear quickly at auction. I would be gutted paying (for an investment) market value of 60k pounds for a rare signed GWB then he prints off another 88 which are deemed rarer colour ways etc. but 'he does what he wants, he does what he wants,he's Banksy he does what he wants'!!
Be interesting to see in 10years time what these will be worth. I mean the world economy is screwed so you make no interest in your savings, shares are too dodgy thesdays. I bet so many people have bought Banksy recently as long term investment. My only banksy cost me 450quid and is now say 10k pound and that's in 7years!! I could never afford another but could refinance the house buy a nice OG and sell It when the kids go to uni.
Imagine the houses of these VIPs, must have banksys hanging everywhere? It's been the same after/during every show he sells off to the same crowd. Ie. Museum gig, then sold pieces during the movie tour of USA, boti etc. and now dismal and. It's a good way of controlling the market as they rarely apear quickly at auction. I would be gutted paying (for an investment) market value of 60k pounds for a rare signed GWB then he prints off another 88 which are deemed rarer colour ways etc. but 'he does what he wants, he does what he wants,he's Banksy he does what he wants'!! Be interesting to see in 10years time what these will be worth. I mean the world economy is screwed so you make no interest in your savings, shares are too dodgy thesdays. I bet so many people have bought Banksy recently as long term investment. My only banksy cost me 450quid and is now say 10k pound and that's in 7years!! I could never afford another but could refinance the house buy a nice OG and sell It when the kids go to uni. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by toshspice on Feb 20, 2016 19:20:55 GMT 1, The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005
One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a direct line to Banksy's former printer. Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist.
The signature style would offer a clue as to the general period during which the A/Ps were signed. But this may be quite different to when they were printed. Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005 One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a direct line to Banksy's former printer. Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by tab1 on Feb 20, 2016 20:15:19 GMT 1, Imagine the houses of these VIPs, must have banksys hanging everywhere? It's been the same after/during every show he sells off to the same crowd. Ie. Museum gig, then sold pieces during the movie tour of USA, boti etc. and now dismal and. It's a good way of controlling the market as they rarely apear quickly at auction. I would be gutted paying (for an investment) market value of 60k pounds for a rare signed GWB then he prints off another 88 which are deemed rarer colour ways etc. but 'he does what he wants, he does what he wants,he's Banksy he does what he wants'!! Be interesting to see in 10years time what these will be worth. I mean the world economy is screwed so you make no interest in your savings, shares are too dodgy thesdays. I bet so many people have bought Banksy recently as long term investment. My only banksy cost me 450quid and is now say 10k pound and that's in 7years!! I could never afford another but could refinance the house buy a nice OG and sell It when the kids go to uni.
Good as a investment as long as the market stays as it is
So easy to quickly change ?
Maybe a hidden past could catch up ? Happened to other artists where their work were worth hundreds of thousands of pounds to now drastically fallen in value .
Could be later identified as a collective group working to produce different styles of art.
With not much directly known about the artist amazing so many people are willing to spend thousands of pounds on an unknown identity or source of work ?
But then again hirst outsources his work and it sells for vast amounts .
Can speculate that more prints will be made but only to the selected list .
Imagine the houses of these VIPs, must have banksys hanging everywhere? It's been the same after/during every show he sells off to the same crowd. Ie. Museum gig, then sold pieces during the movie tour of USA, boti etc. and now dismal and. It's a good way of controlling the market as they rarely apear quickly at auction. I would be gutted paying (for an investment) market value of 60k pounds for a rare signed GWB then he prints off another 88 which are deemed rarer colour ways etc. but 'he does what he wants, he does what he wants,he's Banksy he does what he wants'!! Be interesting to see in 10years time what these will be worth. I mean the world economy is screwed so you make no interest in your savings, shares are too dodgy thesdays. I bet so many people have bought Banksy recently as long term investment. My only banksy cost me 450quid and is now say 10k pound and that's in 7years!! I could never afford another but could refinance the house buy a nice OG and sell It when the kids go to uni. Good as a investment as long as the market stays as it is So easy to quickly change ? Maybe a hidden past could catch up ? Happened to other artists where their work were worth hundreds of thousands of pounds to now drastically fallen in value . Could be later identified as a collective group working to produce different styles of art. With not much directly known about the artist amazing so many people are willing to spend thousands of pounds on an unknown identity or source of work ? But then again hirst outsources his work and it sells for vast amounts . Can speculate that more prints will be made but only to the selected list . |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by gorkie on Feb 20, 2016 23:20:26 GMT 1, Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005 One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a directly line to Banksy's former printer. Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist.
Come off it mate - every man and his dog knows these weren't printed in 2004/2005 One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a directly line to Banksy's former printer. Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist. They were not printed in 2004. At that time he knew he wanted red and only red. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 23:40:01 GMT 1, One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a directly line to Banksy's former printer. ย Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist.ย They were not printed in 2004. At that time he knew he wanted red and only red.ย
Judging by all your posts defending the red and stating how superior it is to the rest I guess you own a red.
The purple is nice.
One man who will know the definitive answer to this is Ben Eine. I'm sure someone on here must have a directly line to Banksy's former printer. ย Whether anyone will bother and, even if they do, whether he will tell or not is another matter. In the end, it won't matter when they were printed, just that they exist.ย They were not printed in 2004. At that time he knew he wanted red and only red.ย Judging by all your posts defending the red and stating how superior it is to the rest I guess you own a red. The purple is nice. |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by .dappy on Feb 21, 2016 0:17:29 GMT 1, ... I don't think the red needs defending ... it's lovely ... (I don't own one)
purple meh!
... I don't think the red needs defending ... it's lovely ... (I don't own one) purple meh! |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Steph Rat Catcher on Feb 21, 2016 0:18:45 GMT 1, They were not printed in 2004. At that time he knew he wanted red and only red.ย Judging by all your posts defending the red and stating how superior it is to the rest I guess you own a red. The purple is nice.
na gold
They were not printed in 2004. At that time he knew he wanted red and only red.ย Judging by all your posts defending the red and stating how superior it is to the rest I guess you own a red. The purple is nice. na gold |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by .dappy on Feb 21, 2016 0:22:09 GMT 1, na gold
... always new you liked Spandau Ballet ... always beliiieeevvinnng
na gold ... always new you liked Spandau Ballet ... always beliiieeevvinnng |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by Steph Rat Catcher on Feb 21, 2016 0:24:21 GMT 1, na gold ... always new you liked Spandau Ballet ... always beliiieeevvinnng
saw them at o2 vip some bird i know works there it was fun
na gold ... always new you liked Spandau Ballet ... always beliiieeevvinnng saw them at o2 vip some bird i know works there it was fun |
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Banksy โข Girl With Red Balloon Print, by naughtyshorty on Feb 21, 2016 0:27:01 GMT 1, Have to say purple and pink are weird colours to me for that image. Gold would be my only choice other than red.
Have to say purple and pink are weird colours to me for that image. Gold would be my only choice other than red.
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