Paul
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Paul on Jun 28, 2007 16:55:54 GMT 1, saying that, i've had the 'live auction' app on all afternoon. i love bidding on it even though my office is about half a mile away. some good stuff on there today
saying that, i've had the 'live auction' app on all afternoon. i love bidding on it even though my office is about half a mile away. some good stuff on there today
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pw
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by pw on Jun 28, 2007 17:02:59 GMT 1, looks like most of the bids are coming from the floor. would be interesting to see whos bidding. Maybe they're old skool and haven't heard of ebay where they can get these prints for half price!
looks like most of the bids are coming from the floor. would be interesting to see whos bidding. Maybe they're old skool and haven't heard of ebay where they can get these prints for half price!
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RBK
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by RBK on Jun 28, 2007 17:21:38 GMT 1, You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay.
Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu.
You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay.
Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by mcnuts on Jun 28, 2007 17:23:46 GMT 1, You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu.
as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me.
You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu. as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me. |
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jam
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by jam on Jun 28, 2007 17:39:07 GMT 1, You need to be very wary of these ebay live auctions. I have watched & participated in quite a few of them over the past couple years and I am certain there were some where I would see an internet bid placed, then immediately get outbid buy a "floor bidder" and go back and fourth until the ebay bidder won. Looks fine, except a few of those were my bids and the items always seemed to go for a hair under my proxy. Then you watch some lots and if there isn't an internet bid, no-one on the flood bids! I stopped trusting ebay live, as I think some of those "live auctions" are a sham. It would be interesting to see if anyone actually went to the live sale.
You need to be very wary of these ebay live auctions. I have watched & participated in quite a few of them over the past couple years and I am certain there were some where I would see an internet bid placed, then immediately get outbid buy a "floor bidder" and go back and fourth until the ebay bidder won. Looks fine, except a few of those were my bids and the items always seemed to go for a hair under my proxy. Then you watch some lots and if there isn't an internet bid, no-one on the flood bids! I stopped trusting ebay live, as I think some of those "live auctions" are a sham. It would be interesting to see if anyone actually went to the live sale.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by stuey09 on Jun 28, 2007 17:45:42 GMT 1, The prices were a bit mad. I looked at the 3k for MWIH by Micallef and wondered how long before Laz's collection looks reasonable at 4k + VAT 
The prices were a bit mad. I looked at the 3k for MWIH by Micallef and wondered how long before Laz's collection looks reasonable at 4k + VAT |
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pw
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by pw on Jun 28, 2007 17:45:48 GMT 1, as far as I'm concerned the only difference between buying from these guys and buying from ebay is that you can see the item before you bid. and that could be arranged for ebay items also in some cases.
that apart, when you buy a print the only other thing to be concerned with is provenance and I bet that the provenance you get from these guys is no better than that which you could get from a reliable ebay seller.
You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu.
as far as I'm concerned the only difference between buying from these guys and buying from ebay is that you can see the item before you bid. and that could be arranged for ebay items also in some cases. that apart, when you buy a print the only other thing to be concerned with is provenance and I bet that the provenance you get from these guys is no better than that which you could get from a reliable ebay seller. You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu. |
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RBK
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by RBK on Jun 28, 2007 18:16:55 GMT 1, You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu. as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me.
Good point mcnuts  I guess people can also lose their control in front of a cpu too. Personally I think that in an actual live-auction setting with other humans in the room the tendency is greater.
You can't really compare prices from a live auction-house auction to Ebay. That is like saying I can't believe X was more expensive in a Gallery than Ebay. Plus people get heated in the moment and bid out of competition. Much different when you are in a room of other bidders versus sitting in front of your cpu. as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me. Good point mcnuts I guess people can also lose their control in front of a cpu too. Personally I think that in an actual live-auction setting with other humans in the room the tendency is greater. |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by mcnuts on Jun 28, 2007 18:23:36 GMT 1, as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me. Good point mcnuts I guess people can also lose their control in front of a cpu too. Personally I think that in an actual live-auction setting with other humans in the room the tendency is greater.
makes sense. bit harder to do online show boating. not much of a peacock behind the monitor unless you wanna show yoru mates the ebay ID listing and how much you paid 
as i havent been to many live auctions, do you mean people will pay more in the heat of the moment AT the auction or in front of their PCs. I assume you mean tha former as that makes sense to me. Good point mcnuts I guess people can also lose their control in front of a cpu too. Personally I think that in an actual live-auction setting with other humans in the room the tendency is greater. makes sense. bit harder to do online show boating. not much of a peacock behind the monitor unless you wanna show yoru mates the ebay ID listing and how much you paid |
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Pattycakes
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Pattycakes on Jun 28, 2007 18:28:28 GMT 1, Was in the room, was madness in there, must have been 10 phone lines set up. Am giving them some of my prints for sure!
Was in the room, was madness in there, must have been 10 phone lines set up. Am giving them some of my prints for sure!
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corblimeylimey on Jun 28, 2007 18:46:58 GMT 1, Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad.
Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad.
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by mcnuts on Jun 28, 2007 18:50:47 GMT 1, Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad.
on their website they charge a 15 (or was it 19%) commision of the sale price plus the final price has vat and the rest on top. I'm no good at maths but it would be interesting to compare the two, to see who would come out on top.
Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad. on their website they charge a 15 (or was it 19%) commision of the sale price plus the final price has vat and the rest on top. I'm no good at maths but it would be interesting to compare the two, to see who would come out on top. |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corblimeylimey on Jun 28, 2007 19:08:21 GMT 1, Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad. on their website they charge a 15 (or was it 19%) commision of the sale price plus the final price has vat and the rest on top. I'm no good at maths but it would be interesting to compare the two, to see who would come out on top.
The ยฃ1300 was the price someone worked out after VAT and sellers fee's, minus another 20% still leaves ยฃ1040 (25% more than ebay before fees!)
Does this mean if someone took in a Love Rat, they could receive ยฃ1300 for it after fees etc? whereas on ebay you'd be lucky to get ยฃ800 minus paypal & ebay fees (about ยฃ50 or more) seems a bit mad. on their website they charge a 15 (or was it 19%) commision of the sale price plus the final price has vat and the rest on top. I'm no good at maths but it would be interesting to compare the two, to see who would come out on top. The ยฃ1300 was the price someone worked out after VAT and sellers fee's, minus another 20% still leaves ยฃ1040 (25% more than ebay before fees!) |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by mcnuts on Jun 28, 2007 19:23:06 GMT 1, people, people, people - the ยฃ1300 is the price without all of the fees (1638 with.) you take 1300, subtract say 15% - ยฃ195 and you're left with ยฃ1105 which is what you pocket in this case. If it was 19% commission you'd still get ยฃ1053 I believe, which ain't bad for a love rat!
ahh ha that make sense. On top of that, selling your banksy via auction you dont get the flack from the forum as it isn't linked to your ebay id [ if you folks are as thick as me and have a similar ebay name ] Regardless, I'm holding on to mine for the moment!
people, people, people - the ยฃ1300 is the price without all of the fees (1638 with.) you take 1300, subtract say 15% - ยฃ195 and you're left with ยฃ1105 which is what you pocket in this case. If it was 19% commission you'd still get ยฃ1053 I believe, which ain't bad for a love rat! ahh ha that make sense. On top of that, selling your banksy via auction you dont get the flack from the forum as it isn't linked to your ebay id [ if you folks are as thick as me and have a similar ebay name ] Regardless, I'm holding on to mine for the moment! |
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lellyb
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by lellyb on Jun 28, 2007 19:53:07 GMT 1, does anybody know if the toxic mary was actually sold? I was watching the auction but never saw this lot come up - was wondering if it had be withdrawn from the sale ??
does anybody know if the toxic mary was actually sold? I was watching the auction but never saw this lot come up - was wondering if it had be withdrawn from the sale ??
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lellyb
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by lellyb on Jun 28, 2007 19:56:42 GMT 1, ok - thanks!
ok - thanks!
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corisma
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corisma on Jun 28, 2007 20:40:01 GMT 1, wow even with a hefty commission those prices are unreal
wow even with a hefty commission those prices are unreal
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Pattycakes
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Pattycakes on Jun 29, 2007 8:26:54 GMT 1, I agree massive prices, but then you have to presume that they are selling the pictures to people who are used to buying art at auction like Warhols etc... people like that are not going to go shopping on the bay now are they? Still crazy prices, but then for each lot sold there were quite a few people chasing them.
I agree massive prices, but then you have to presume that they are selling the pictures to people who are used to buying art at auction like Warhols etc... people like that are not going to go shopping on the bay now are they? Still crazy prices, but then for each lot sold there were quite a few people chasing them.
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corisma
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corisma on Jun 29, 2007 9:06:23 GMT 1, people like that are not going to go shopping on the bay now are they?
no , but do they really buy I fought the Laws & Gangsta Rats ? ;D
people like that are not going to go shopping on the bay now are they?
no , but do they really buy I fought the Laws & Gangsta Rats ? ;D
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Pattycakes
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Pattycakes on Jun 29, 2007 12:22:55 GMT 1, They are great works of art of course they are going to want to buy them! But they like the glamour of buying at auction
They are great works of art of course they are going to want to buy them! But they like the glamour of buying at auction
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by lesroy on Jun 29, 2007 13:55:19 GMT 1, unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800
unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corblimeylimey on Jun 29, 2007 15:38:47 GMT 1, unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800
WHAT!!!!!!! 
I lost one to GBH (I think) a few months ago, for around ยฃ600-ยฃ700 I think.
unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800 WHAT!!!!!!! I lost one to GBH (I think) a few months ago, for around ยฃ600-ยฃ700 I think. |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by johnas on Jun 29, 2007 15:45:31 GMT 1, unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800 WHAT!!!!!!! I lost one to GBH (I think) a few months ago, for around ยฃ600-ยฃ700 I think.
snooze and you lose CBL
unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800 WHAT!!!!!!! I lost one to GBH (I think) a few months ago, for around ยฃ600-ยฃ700 I think. snooze and you lose CBL |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by corblimeylimey on Jun 29, 2007 17:43:30 GMT 1, unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800
Creased as well.
I really think this seller got lucky.
unsigned Flying Copper just sold on ebay for ยฃ1800 Creased as well. I really think this seller got lucky. |
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Mobu
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Mobu on Apr 23, 2007 15:13:37 GMT 1, Anyone interested in the following swap:
Trolley hunters + Eelus Chewbarber + ยฃ200 for a swap of a banksy Bomb middle england unsigned? This is negotiable of course.
PM me if you are please.
Thanks,
Moritz
Anyone interested in the following swap:
Trolley hunters + Eelus Chewbarber + ยฃ200 for a swap of a banksy Bomb middle england unsigned? This is negotiable of course.
PM me if you are please.
Thanks,
Moritz
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Mobu
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by Mobu on May 25, 2007 16:03:20 GMT 1, Hi,
Would anyone sell their BME for ยฃ2000 to me?
If you have one and would like to sell it, please let me know by PM or through the thread.
Kind Regards,
Mo
Hi,
Would anyone sell their BME for ยฃ2000 to me?
If you have one and would like to sell it, please let me know by PM or through the thread.
Kind Regards,
Mo
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by dave313perry on May 25, 2007 16:50:13 GMT 1, this item on ebay had a BIN of ยฃ2000 that was until someone bid on it, it is also framed professionally, get in touch with him, if you offer them the 2k they wanted initially they may end it, you know what ebays like! theres and error in the listing etc.... Dave
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this item on ebay had a BIN of ยฃ2000 that was until someone bid on it, it is also framed professionally, get in touch with him, if you offer them the 2k they wanted initially they may end it, you know what ebays like! theres and error in the listing etc.... Dave
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weeble
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by weeble on May 25, 2007 18:31:32 GMT 1, I recently paid just over 2k for one, might have been able to get one for less, but whatever, its my favourite Banksy ever! Wish it was signed... Just a weston now to compliment it and I'll be sorted!
I recently paid just over 2k for one, might have been able to get one for less, but whatever, its my favourite Banksy ever! Wish it was signed... Just a weston now to compliment it and I'll be sorted! |
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Banksy Bomb Middle England Print โข 2003 , by ABC on May 25, 2007 21:57:15 GMT 1, IMO 2k is a strong offer and even a little high.
IMO 2k is a strong offer and even a little high.
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I guess people can also lose their control in front of a cpu too. Personally I think that in an actual live-auction setting with other humans in the room the tendency is greater.
